I want to make a manga series, but.....
| How can you make a manga series if you have nothing to offer yourself other than gathering idiotic bitches to serve you? Those who need more writing skills are better off writing novels or whatever. Those who need to improve their artwork, they might aswell aim to make good art every now and then. What this place lacks is of people that actually can do something to make a manga (aka comic series). Just happens to be failures 99.9% of the time these topic surface. Stop dreaming of manga and try doing something that's worth your time. It's better to work you way into manga by actually working on it for a couple years, instead of asking here for a quick way out. |
Toushi said: How can you make a manga series if you have nothing to offer yourself other than gathering idiotic bitches to serve you? Stop dreaming of manga and try doing something that's worth your time. It's better to work you way into manga by actually working on it for a couple years, instead of asking here for a quick way out. You are my idol, lets get married. |
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clafann1 said: Manga is 99% drawing, 1% story :D What.No....I mean,cmon. Look at One Piece,the art puts a lot of people off,but the storyline is superb. |
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clafann1 said: I like One Piece as much as I like Bleach: ZERO!!! NADA!!! NIENTE!!! Because you only watch anime and never tried reading OP. Oh well,ignorance is everyone's best friend. I'm not one to criticize other people's taste in anime. changster1123 said: clafann1 said: Manga is 99% drawing, 1% story :D When making it 60% is art and 40% is story for most mangakas. For the reader, however, I'd say around 70% is story and 30% is art. oh and this. |
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changster1123 said: spinecollect said: clafann1 said: I like One Piece as much as I like Bleach: ZERO!!! NADA!!! NIENTE!!! Because you only watch anime and never tried reading OP. Oh well,ignorance is everyone's best friend. I'm not one to criticize other people's taste in anime. changster1123 said: clafann1 said: Manga is 99% drawing, 1% story :D When making it 60% is art and 40% is story for most mangakas. For the reader, however, I'd say around 70% is story and 30% is art. oh and this. what about "this"? o-o Nothing I was just supporting your statement lol. Sorry if it came out wrongly. |
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| This the part of Bakuman effect I hate. Waebos, 99,9999999% of you will never be able to make anything nearly professional. Not even if you had three lives. Deal with it. |
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AlanViBritannia said: This the part of Bakuman effect I hate. Waebos, 99,9999999% of you will never be able to make anything nearly professional. Not even if you had three lives. Deal with it. So what if it's not professional? If someone's dream is to make a comic - let him/her do this. It's not important if it's good since you love doing it ;o I personally really want to make my own comic, but I know it's rarely possible, cause living on doing comics in my country is a bad idea. No one would buy it. But I'm sure - I'll start makin it one day. As a hobby of course~ |
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| Sure, go for it. You will waste good amount of time on nothing really productive, but yeah, sure, hobby this hobby that. :D Maybe you people make hobby Chinese cartoon once! |
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| So you think people should stop doing what they love, just because it's a waste of time and not productive? So why do you watch animes and read mangas? It's a waste of time also... ._____. At last after making comics you learn how to draw and you're better at it. It's more productive than watching japanese cartoons after which u're... Well, u're not better at anything, u're just enjoying it ;o |
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| It depends on the time wasted. I waste about half an hour daily on anime/manga. So it does not affect my real life work much. But wasting much time on something like manga drawing, without any real goal, is quite meaningless. Sketching is fine, drawing a whole manga is a serious job, and doing it for nothing is just a waste of time. |
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changster1123 said: This post exists to help those in need of improving their writing skills and those who need to further improve their artwork. I really don't see how this topic could possibly help in improving these skills, in any way. |
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AlanViBritannia said: Waebos, 99,9999999% of you will never be able to make anything nearly professional. Not even if you had three lives. Deal with it. So much negativity..... Also, of course it'd be a waste of time if people are just doing it as a random hobby (with no real purpose in mind) instead of actually pursuing it in some form and actually going for professional work. That said, if people just wanna make their own comic/manga just for the heck of it, there's nothing wrong with that as well (just as much as there's nothing wrong if you like watching anime as a pastime). It's their own choice anyway, whether or not it's an actual waste of time depends on the actual use it has for them (productivity, honing your skills, recreational etc.) Endelerius said: changster1123 said: This post exists to help those in need of improving their writing skills and those who need to further improve their artwork. I really don't see how this topic could possibly help in improving these skills, in any way. Yeah it's probably better to go on art sites where drawing/comic-making are more prevalent so people can actually critique each other. |
ronriJun 12, 2012 10:39 AM
| I excuse myself if I am crushing someone's dreams. I am real person, I don't like making people believe things that ain't gonna happen. Might be harsh sometimes, but at lest, I speak the truth. There is no light for 99.9999999% of mangakas. And even thouse 0.0000001 are Japanese. No American fanboy is going to be mangaka. You can stick to superheroes & stuff, there you have like 0.1% chance of success. |
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AlanViBritannia said: I excuse myself if I am crushing someone's dreams. I am real person, I don't like making people believe things that ain't gonna happen. Might be harsh sometimes, but at lest, I speak the truth. The hilarity of your insistence on your percentage ratings and views on the comic-making industry as well as your attempts in making it all sound like absolute fact is pure gold. I don't mind people being a realist and providing the cons of going into such an industry as there's nothing wrong with it and it provides better insight, but down-playing people for pursuing goals (as hard or unattainable as they may seem) and calling them weaboos is just plain pathetic. Unless you point out that you weren't referring to people in the thread as weaboos on your first post, then I don't see the point of you needing to brandish your bitterness towards them if that was really what you were trying to do. If it was, then you obviously weren't very clear about it. Also it doesn't seem like you fully understood my comment as it sounds as if you thought I was offended by it, so I suggest you read it again as I actually partly agreed with you on my first paragraph: Also, of course it'd be a waste of time if people are just doing it as a random hobby (with no real purpose in mind) instead of actually pursuing it in some form and actually going for professional work. That said, if people just wanna make their own comic/manga just for the heck of it, there's nothing wrong with that as well (just as much as there's nothing wrong if you like watching anime as a pastime). It's their own choice anyway, whether or not it's an actual waste of time depends on the actual use it has for them (productivity, honing your skills, recreational etc.) |
ronriJun 12, 2012 11:30 AM
| Hm, actually I wasn't referring to people in this thread as waeboos. I was referring to all the anime fans who discovered their hidden talents after watching Bakuman. :) |
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AlanViBritannia said: Hm, actually I wasn't referring to people in this thread as waeboos. I was referring to all the anime fans who discovered their hidden talents after watching Bakuman. :) Fair point, I can see why you would say that as it can make some people who aren't committed enough to actually want to start dreaming about becoming one. That said, there's nothing wrong with making comics/mangas for recreational purposes. Like I said before: It's their own choice anyway, whether or not it's an actual waste of time depends on the actual use it has for them (productivity, honing your skills, recreational etc.) |
ronriJun 13, 2012 6:40 PM
clafann1 said: I think you got it wrong, the goal of majority of people outside japan aren't to be mangakas, they simply want to build a story using an hybrid style (the european/american influences plus the manga traces), they're aspiring to be comic designers not mangakas... What this guy said. I think there is a lot of back and forth between the two countries. Americans embrace manga and Japanese have been influenced by American Cartoons and Comic Books for decades. You'd be surprised how far reaching it's influence is in films, games, graphics novels and even your typical American comic book. But, because manga has its own visual language that isn't easily receptive because of cultural differences, it is hard to adapt a palatable style for the American public. Bottom line, if you really think you want to be an illustrator who is influenced by manga, go for it. It is absolutely possible to make a career out of it and plenty of people have. |
perspective said: What this guy said. I think there is a lot of back and forth between the two countries. Americans embrace manga and Japanese have been influenced by American Cartoons and Comic Books for decades. You'd be surprised how far reaching it's influence is in films, games, graphics novels and even your typical American comic book. But, because manga has its own visual language that isn't easily receptive because of cultural differences, it is hard to adapt a palatable style for the American public. Bottom line, if you really think you want to be an illustrator who is influenced by manga, go for it. It is absolutely possible to make a career out of it and plenty of people have. True, dat. It's just that OP seems more like wanting to take the honour of supervising the "team" instead of asking for some help with the skills he/she already has. You people are talking about putting actual effort in something you want to do. This doesn't really look like it... I honestly think people think too easy when it comes to creating manga. Every artistical thing needs a lot of effort, time and practice. It's not something you easily learn in short time. Too bad that for a lot of people are dreaming like in anime/manga, that they're magically able to be a complete proffesional in no time, with minimum effort put in. No, that won't happen. It will most likely end up you starting at it and with no time, you just leave it for dust to create your wonderful manga. If you have interest, go for it. Sometimes it's better to let people fall in order to learn than putting a lot of effort trying to convince them. Instead of making manga, there is more potential working in a different department of the art industry. What about books or games? You can still do about the samething without asking for help. Drawing manga, or anything related to that...just do it for fun in your free time. |
AlanViBritannia said: I excuse myself if I am crushing someone's dreams. I am real person, I don't like making people believe things that ain't gonna happen. Might be harsh sometimes, but at lest, I speak the truth. There is no light for 99.9999999% of mangakas. And even thouse 0.0000001 are Japanese. No American fanboy is going to be mangaka. You can stick to superheroes & stuff, there you have like 0.1% chance of success. mark crilley. |
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Bloodania said: Where is the "WAKE UP" option? It takes half a million USD to just produce an OVA indie, this option is the smartest one. This is a necrothread, OP ain't coming back bro. |
| Wait why would I post my ideas here? Whats to stop people from stealing my ideas and vice versa? |
| I've been here way too long... |
Monkey_D_Calum said: Making a manga called Mirakurahunta or Miracle Hunter in English. Want to make it a long series like One Piece. I have the story i can draw on paper but i want to use my computer... Anyone know and good, free software for making manga. Any help would be great thanks. If you want to make a good quality manga or whatever, you need to invest some money into it. |
ainthemix said: Sure, go for it. You will waste good amount of time on nothing really productive, but yeah, sure, hobby this hobby that. :D Maybe you people make hobby Chinese cartoon once! This man clearly hasn't achieved anything in his life. The brick walls are not there to keep us out; the brick walls are there to give us a chance to show how badly we want something. - Randy Pausch |
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| lol my problem here is not that I can't draw or can't think up of a great story, it's just I don't have the willpower to see it through past the first chapter. TRied drawing a webcomic but could only get to chapter 1 (past a prologue) then I lost interest... |
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