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Apr 28, 2012 9:56 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Competition where the girls fight in teams of two. Ichiroku finds out she is with Eru and gets on her case because of her reliability issues in combat. Ichiroku is especially fired up because she's going against derivatives of the AK-47 (AK's went up against M16's in Vietnam and later). Eru runs out on her and leaves Ichiroku to fight alone.
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Apr 28, 2012 10:15 AM
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Ichiroku finds out she is with Eru and gets on her case because of her reliability in combat.


You mean unreliability in combat, right?

And I know that the L85 is a defective model, but that was still cold of Ichiroku to call Eru a "dud" like that without any regards to her feelings. I feel really sorry for Eru.
Apr 28, 2012 10:42 AM
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Poor Eruchan, I wanna hug her till she wills better.

Also, those fake-AKs are going DOWN!
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Apr 28, 2012 11:06 AM
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Poor Eru it's not her fault she's a defective model of gun, she needs hugs and more encouragement not cold comments.

Those rival fakes need a good thrashing too.


Apr 28, 2012 11:14 AM
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I want Sig in action again D:
Apr 28, 2012 11:44 AM
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Poor Eru it's not her fault she's a defective model of gun, she needs hugs and more encouragement not cold comments.


Agreed. Right now I'm not liking Ichiroku's attitude at this point. Maybe it's the pressure of the competion and her desire to beat the fake AKs that's getting to her. Whatever the case she owes Eru an apology.

Those rival fakes need a good thrashing too.


Yeah they do, but part of me wants them to give Ichiroku a good beating for what she did to Eru.
Apr 28, 2012 11:52 AM
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The AK versus M16 battle has been going on for a long time and there pretty much the most famous weapons out there.
I heard ones that almost 50% of all automatic weapons where AK's or AK based.
There cheaper to make then most Western weapons and there very reliable and work under almost all circumstances not to mention that there are pretty light as well.
I also heard that the West has been trying to make similar weapons for a long time.
The Russians where pretty strict when it came to picking there standard weapons each weapon had to meet strict requirements and eventually compete against each other in a number of trials.
The one that came out victorious was the best weapon and was selected as standard weapon for the Russian army several weapons where picked this way for different tasks such as the AK as there standard assault riffle and the Dragunov as there standard sniper riffle.

I don't know anything about the way the US selected there weapons tho.
And my knowledge about the M16 lacks as well.
Apr 28, 2012 12:22 PM
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It simply amazes me how much this show has taught me about the history of certain guns.
Apr 28, 2012 1:38 PM
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I don't know anything about the way the US selected there weapons tho.
And my knowledge about the M16 lacks as well.


Whoever lobbies the best.
Apr 28, 2012 1:53 PM

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bci110 said:
You mean unreliability in combat, right?

Yeah, I meant to put reliability issues or something like that.
Apr 28, 2012 2:11 PM

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Damn, this episode is evil for teasing us with the start of the tournament.
Apr 28, 2012 2:15 PM

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One word elf's, Ha hell?
Apr 28, 2012 2:27 PM
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AK Vs M16???????????

Ok, I guess some weapon facts should be in order, first of all the AK does have some derivatives in the Galil AR and SAKO RK95, this is because countries like Israel and Finland are after the reliability of the AK and yet they also wanted the accuracy of the M16. So they copied the Soviet Kalashnikov design of the AK and modified it to used a NATO 5.56mm round.

The Israeli Galil AR was put it into limited production, so, the Israel Defense Force where instead issued with the M16 series as their standard issue rifle.

Most countries aligned with the US has their own M16 derivatives which where pattered after the said weapon i.e Canada has their "C" variants , Korea has the "K" variants and Taiwan has the "T" variant.

In 1974 the Soviets also develop the AK74 which also uses the same 5.56mm NATO round.

The the powder used in an M16 round is cordite which is smokeless and leaves no residue which would contribute to the weapon's jamming.

America lost the Vietnam War primarily because of mounting political protest from it's own people.
Apr 28, 2012 2:43 PM

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Great episode. Once again, very informative.

Tournament looks like it will be great.
No.
Apr 28, 2012 2:50 PM

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I hope Ichiroku beats those fake AKs. :D
Apr 28, 2012 3:11 PM

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Awww..... Eru :'(
Apr 28, 2012 3:13 PM

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Damn black spots :P

Apr 28, 2012 3:36 PM

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I sorta want Ichiroku to get beat cuz her attitude is so arrogant.
Apr 28, 2012 3:43 PM

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Poor L85A1 always breaking. Looking forward to M16 vs AK fight.


Apr 28, 2012 5:23 PM

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Poor L85A1 always breaking. Looking forward to M16 vs AK fight.

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I'm with you.
Apr 28, 2012 5:39 PM
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uh, this really isnt m16 vs AK fight. its more of a m16 vs AK copies.
hopefully they have a real AK character in the show. a russian schoolgirl transfer perhaps? and what happened to that german teacher in epi 1?
tease

edit- also this anime has the stupidest recommendations. thats not a negative for this anime, its just shows how stupid some mal users are who recommend anime.
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"....i am the villain in this story"
Apr 28, 2012 5:49 PM
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i hope eru will be upgraded to the l85a2 cause that weapon is a beast.

oh yeah and imagine the barret 50. cal as a school girl!!! she must be a teacher though or something...... with BIIIIIIIG BREASTS droooooooooooool............
Apr 28, 2012 5:52 PM

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edit- also this anime has the stupidest recommendations. thats not a negative for this anime, its just shows how stupid some mal users are who recommend anime.


In some cases the recommendations are worse then those reviews that pop up after 1 or 2 episodes are out. MAL needs more quality control.
Apr 28, 2012 5:56 PM
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Still don't really get why people like the show. At least they are trying to set up a story arc, maybe it will get better.
Apr 28, 2012 5:57 PM
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amginex said:
edit- also this anime has the stupidest recommendations. thats not a negative for this anime, its just shows how stupid some mal users are who recommend anime.


In some cases the recommendations are worse then those reviews that pop up after 1 or 2 episodes are out. MAL needs more quality control.
Maybe not allowing reviews until at least 5 episodes or something, depending on the show length.
Apr 28, 2012 6:09 PM
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Ichiroku calling Eru a faulty rifle is unforgiven >.<"
Apr 28, 2012 6:26 PM

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Am I the only one who likes the Finnish and Israeli gungirls?
Apr 28, 2012 6:34 PM
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Am I the only one who likes the Finnish and Israeli gungirls?


isreali gun girl?!?! seriously? she has not said anything this whole episode, and girls from isreal dont look like cats they look like pigs tbh....
Apr 28, 2012 7:39 PM

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oonly part i really cared about was the end let the hungry games begin! nice they finally mentioned the AK was looking forward to that since ep 1 :D and i finally know that those two are fake AKs.
Apr 28, 2012 7:59 PM

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Poor Eru. She's on her way, but the matches are already underway.

Apr 28, 2012 8:08 PM

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Still don't really get why people like the show. At least they are trying to set up a story arc, maybe it will get better.


It's both ridiculously entertaining and educational. Plus it contains cute girls in short skirts.

But if I was to score it right now, I would give it a 6.
Apr 28, 2012 9:53 PM

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Will we get to see the M416 and the AK-74M? Those WERE my favorites in BF3. Well, the G3A3 is my waifu and so is the L85A2. I wonder will L85 ever get upgraded to A2 ? She is such crap right now lol. Besides seeing all of these awesome super sexy guns how about some launchers? M320 and FGM-148 Javelin anyone? :D
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Apr 28, 2012 10:53 PM

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Sucks L85 is a bad gun. I don't like the fact Eru is taking it hard (failing classes, breaking easily, etc.) even if she is a faulty gun.

And I already saw my guns I mostly use from the COD series: M16A4 and Galil. I wanna see how this matchup goes seeing that they look like very, very aggressive rivals ;).



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Still don't really get why people like the show.


Human beings are weird creatures. We all have these things called "opinions" that differ from one another. What one human sees as "trash" another sees it as a "treasure". Is is still so difficult to perceive people as liking different things? Some people like guns. I like guns. I was interested in "Upotte!" because of that reason. Now I like it for more reasons, but the guns and character designs caught my eye first and foremost.

Is it Shakespearean writing? Hell no. Will it win award after award. Hell no, again. Is it entertaining to the people that watch it? Heck yea. If it isn't your cup of tea then drop it and watch something you truly enjoy.

I don't get why some peeps continue to watch/follow a show they don't like, then proceed to ask why OTHER people like it. One shouldn't have to explain why they are a fan of something. One just....is. I dropped one or two shows last season and I did not feel the need to go to fans of that series and ask, "Why are you still watching this?" I already knew the answer; they enjoy it.

Also, the girls are fucking adorable. I like watching cute girls doing cute things. ^__^
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egoplant said:
Still don't really get why people like the show.


Human beings are weird creatures. We all have these things called "opinions" that differ from one another. What one human sees as "trash" another sees it as a "treasure". Is is still so difficult to perceive people as liking different things? Some people like guns. I like guns. I was interested in "Upotte!" because of that reason. Now I like it for more reasons, but the guns and character designs caught my eye first and foremost.

Is it Shakespearean writing? Hell no. Will it win award after award. Hell no, again. Is it entertaining to the people that watch it? Heck yea. If it isn't your cup of tea then drop it and watch something you truly enjoy.

I don't get why some peeps continue to watch/follow a show they don't like, then proceed to ask why OTHER people like it. One shouldn't have to explain why they are a fan of something. One just....is. I dropped one or two shows last season and I did not feel the need to go to fans of that series and ask, "Why are you still watching this?" I already knew the answer; they enjoy it.

Also, the girls are fucking adorable. I like watching cute girls doing cute things. ^__^

You should get an award just for that paragraph. Also I LOLED at your "quotes"
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Apr 29, 2012 4:06 AM

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AK Vs M16???????????

Ok, I guess some weapon facts should be in order, first of all the AK does have some derivatives in the Galil AR and SAKO RK95, this is because countries like Israel and Finland are after the reliability of the AK and yet they also wanted the accuracy of the M16. So they copied the Soviet Kalashnikov design of the AK and modified it to used a NATO 5.56mm round.

The Israeli Galil AR was put it into limited production, so, the Israel Defense Force where instead issued with the M16 series as their standard issue rifle.

Most countries aligned with the US has their own M16 derivatives which where pattered after the said weapon i.e Canada has their "C" variants , Korea has the "K" variants and Taiwan has the "T" variant.

In 1974 the Soviets also develop the AK74 which also uses the same 5.56mm NATO round.

The the powder used in an M16 round is cordite which is smokeless and leaves no residue which would contribute to the weapon's jamming.

America lost the Vietnam War primarily because of mounting political protest from it's own people.
And the reason there was so much protest was because of the huge number of fatalities during that war amongst other reasons.
Which can be blamed on the weapons they where using in the opinion of some.
There was also the question why America was there in the first place since that war started out as a colonial war against France.

The AK 47 main disadvantage was like you mentioned it's accuracy Kalashnikov who was a war veteran noted that most fighting took place within 300 meters and made the gun so it was effective within 300 meters.
The AK 74 was probably modified from more accuracy because the 300 meter rule was outdated and more accuracy does give you a advantage in battle.
Also the original bullets that where used by the Russians where bigger that the standard Nato rounds which means the AK 74 can carry more bullets then it's predecessor.
Apr 29, 2012 7:08 AM
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In 1974 the Soviets also develop the AK74 which also uses the same 5.56mm NATO round.


AK-74 uses 5.45x39mm rounds, actually. AK-101 and AK-102 are the AKs that are chambered for 5.56x45mm ammunition.
Apr 29, 2012 10:56 AM
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I'm learning so much from this show.

Nice episode. Hopefully Ichiroku and Eru make up. Gunna be an intense fight between Ichiroku and the AK's in the coming episodes.
Apr 29, 2012 4:54 PM

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I'm seriously starting to develop a gun fetish . I'm not into military and wars , but this anime makes me ever so curious . I've spend an hour or so researching my country's military weaponry xD .
Apr 29, 2012 5:04 PM

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Really nice episode.Nice to watch and learn somethings. But, poor Eru it's broke again :( .

Apr 29, 2012 7:03 PM
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i hope eru will be upgraded to the l85a2 cause that weapon is a beast.


Unlikely. In one of the earlier eps there was a ranking list showing both Eru (L85A1) and the L85A2.

If the M82/M107 ever makes an appearance, she better be redonkulously tall but otherwise be somewhat clumsy due to her height (because a 30lbs/1.5 meter gun is super manuverable).
Apr 30, 2012 12:10 AM
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the hell is going on in this factory

Apr 30, 2012 12:14 AM

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Another Great episode.
I feel so sad for Eru, But i Hope she makes up with Ichiroku and they have a epic fight against the AK's.
Apr 30, 2012 12:41 AM

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This anime is relatively enjoyable for me...
The only problem is that at this point I have to shut down 80% of my brain to not notice the obvious holes in plot sequencing and weird cuts. And overclock my other 20% to connect broken scenes...

Oh well, I learned something today too.. So it pays off nicely :)
Hello :D
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"I can't read German. I can't read Dutch either!" xD

Nice to hear something about The AK and it's derivatives too. Bad luck for M16; the match is in a rainfores just like the Vietnam war. Sadly L-chan isn't that reliable either, but she's bound to get 16 out of a pinch next episode.

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Rk 95 is actually 7.62 mm... Don't know why they'd make such an obvious mistake.

I'm currently in Finnish conscript service but using an Rk 62 instead of a 95 ;_;
May 1, 2012 11:32 AM

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So unfair for poor L-chan. Why does the 16 get to be in her A4 version while she is stuck on her A1 version. Not fair, they should have made her A2.
May 1, 2012 1:43 PM
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I think it's because the L85A2 was fixed by H&K, not BAE Systems.
May 1, 2012 5:18 PM

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I'm with AK team!
May 1, 2012 8:42 PM

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Sig is love <3. That aside, can't wait for the next ep, too bad Sig won't participate in the touunament though Q.Q
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