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That's not changing the subject. My point is, random spinoffs does not contribute to the series being remembered unless they themselves are memorable enough. Just look at NGE, all those random manga spinoffs never had a fraction of the impact the original series had, the franchise is remembered because of the main series and the following movie, not all the spinoffs, those are merely frosting on the cake if anything at all.


I am not talking about success of the individual spin-offs. Getting spin-offs is one way to indicate that the franchise itself hasn't been forgotten by the fans.

Yea, but again, the spinoffs don't have any weight to them alone to be noticed outside of the fanbase,

Then the question would be are we talking about the fans forgetting a franchise or non-fans being aware about shows they've never watched in 10 years. The former seems to be a more feasible topic of this forum while the latter would fit into a forum that isn't centered around anime.

But NGE itself has been noticed far and wide outside the fanbase, and certainly to a far bigger extent than CG has at this point.

And does that mean in people inside the fandom will stop talking about it in 10 years because people outside of the fandom don't know about it? That defeats the point of fans congregating to discussion boards.

So at least if we try to use NGE as a measure for lasting cultural impact, in that it got where it was today from only 26 episodes and a movie (I really can't see how the reboots add anything of value so far), CG hasn't yet done the same with it's two seasons, and I do doubt the further spinoffs will add very much to it, so far being unrelated to the original plot and all.

NGE was my analogy and I wouldn't use that as a measuring stick for this conversation because that would assume fans only remember shows that had value and impact similar to NGE and mean ignoring other reasons a show could be remember for. People are still talking about Mars of Destruction almost 8 years after the fact. So NGE can't be a standard-bearer when the concept of not forgetting something is so open.

Now sure, NGE is far on top of the popularity pole, so that's not to say CG can't also leave an impact only because it pales compared to it.

Why don't you start up a topic that discusses impact if you want to talk about it so much. But do keep in mind that the number of separate projects is one way to measure impact just as is whether non-anime fans you happen to know are aware of any particular show.


But the way I see it, it still falls between two chairs, as it's whole story is basically built by mashing up various ideas, all of which either are or will likely be remembered more for their role in other stories, such as Gundam and Death note.

The I see it is CG is so tightly bound to Death Note because of similar airing dates and main characters that discussion of one inevitably brings in comparisons of the other in anime forums.

All that aside, I'd bet you'd still be talking about CG until the day you die. Thus, you'd be one of the prime reasons why CG can't be forgotten around here.

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Clannad, Clannad AS, Death Note.
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Only looked at the first page, but...

No Sailor Moon, DBZ, or Pokemon? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?! Those were my intro to anime when I was a wee 11 year old.

NGE will also never be forgotten, for sure. I'm hoping Cowboy Bebop will be the same way.
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Death Note, Code Geass, One Piece, Nartuo, Bleach, Full metal Alchemist, Gintama, Rurouni Kenshin, Dragon Ball Z, Gundam etc.. most mainstream animes will most likely still be remembered 10 years from now, and probably most of Ghibli's stuff.
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Probably Baccano! Hunter x Hunter and Fairy Tail. They oddly taught me a lot ^.^
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kain361 said:
since I'm not into mainstream or endless animes, mine would be NGE? perhaps


how is this NOT mainstream? :facepalm:

I know that post was at the start of the thread, but people surprise me with what they think of as "underground", "alternative" , "not mainstream" etc.
I think NGE is about as mainstream-saturated as it can get, easily more known in some age groups than Ghibli films.

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I'll never understand what's so great about Evangelion.


Yay? Sorry for your loss? I am sure we can dig up someone that doesn't understand how great Wilt Chamberlain is either but that says more about that person's critical thinking ability than Chamberlain's accomplishments.


so if someone thinks NGE is highly over-rated this equates ontologically to that person having no critical thinking?
and who cares about Wilt Chamberlain anyway? I certainly don't. what the hell does he have to do with anime or anything I care about, and most especially what does he have to do with critical thinking? Hooray for him if he is "great" at something I absolutely loathe (all-star sports, Sports stars and fandom, et., ad nauseum). I understand and recognize he is good at what he is good at, but I don't understand how he is "great," because I have no interest in what he performs well at, so I don't think he is "great." I also think he is over-paid, as are all pro athletes (and "A-list" actors and other famous douche-bags) :P
Seriously, people can not like NGE and still exhibit critical thinking, or possibly, not just in spite of not liking it, but possibly because of not liking it. Trying to randomly relate a discussion like this this to sports fanaticism also just makes no sense to me, as I hate sports "hero" worship and everything that goes with it.
Really, not trying to flame, but don't mistake your favorite series, movie (or sports star/ team/ other sports-related puke) as a statement of undeniable truth, wisdom and greatness.

What I think will be still remembered in 10 years?
*Macross F, because it is Macross and it isn't Macross II (which people still remember)
*Baccano!
*Mushi-Shi
*Planetes
*Most any Ghibli
*lots of really mainstream stuff
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Rurouni Kenshin has always had a place in my heart. It was pretty awesome at the time and I could never forget about it.
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Definitely Evangelion
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@Silent_Sword: Older than 10 years.

@Ragna92: Older than 10 years.

@World: Y u no read topic title?
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KeiranShikari said:
24601 said:
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Cowboy Bebop definitely.


nope pop clure impact in japan was not big enough


Implying the west gives a fuck about how well it did in Japan. Stuff like that and Trigun will remain popular here because we have better taste than Japan.

24601 said:
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24601 said:
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kain361 said:
since I'm not into mainstream or endless animes, mine would be NGE? perhaps


Because the highest selling anime ever NGE isn't mainstream.


bull crap sales does not = mainstream talk to any new Japanese Otaku ask them to name an anime they will say one of sx Sazea san Doraemon Maruko chan nintama rantaro Conan and One piece

eva is just under 20 and still has one of the biggest fanbases in the world when it comes to anything animated but stiil in moneymakeing its still a Distant 6th year on no year in japan the top 3 franchise's in japan via shree money makeiing vallue [ so ie the most mainstrem are the three big toku franchises Kamen rider Sentai Ultra

FYI eav is one of my faves and is also one of the only anime made in the last 15 years that has hd ant historic impact on the medium


Still a sucky anime though.


what


A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP. It certainly fits in well with Japan's other top selling anime in Bakemonogatari, K-on and Lucky Star.



seems like someone haven't heard about RoE...
Btw i would point out some oldie stuff like rurounin kenshin, corrector yui, sakura card captor, sailor moon.
As for newer anime's i would say anything having the key logo its worth the time, RoE (evangelion) it's just pure epicness. Also maybe a few romances like toradora will last over some years
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Akira? 1988 and people still talk about it (and lot's more of 80's anime, these are just examples)

or hajime no ippo and legend of galactic heroes? alltough i haven't seen these 2 myself.

and why oh why was i sure dead note was going to be mentioned...

and imo school days (it's hard to forget about that one, be it good or bad)

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@World: Y u no read topic title?


it's kind of a vage title... it can also mean what anime will not be forgotten after 10 years? 10 years from today? from the last 10 years?
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Legendre said:
@Silent_Sword: Older than 10 years.

@Ragna92: Older than 10 years.

@World: Y u no read topic title?

eh...how do you interpret the title? Because I think it refers to anime that will still be remembered ten years from now on.
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Legendre said:
@Silent_Sword: Older than 10 years.

@Ragna92: Older than 10 years.

@World: Y u no read topic title?


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dragon ball series
don't really like it
but it's nostalgic
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Victlin said:
KeiranShikari said:
A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP. It certainly fits in well with Japan's other top selling anime in Bakemonogatari, K-on and Lucky Star.
seems like someone haven't heard about RoE...

So what? How would Rebuild of Evangelion change Shikari's views on the original Eva?
Are the movies so bad that they make it look better?
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anything by Key will be remembered. haruhism will reign since it still is. lucky star i believe just for its "seinfeld" style story: there isn't one. i think fairy tail cuz in my opinion its better than bleach and one piece. idk everything thats good will be. i mean does anyone remember kanokon or dual PTA?
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Tiago97 said:
Victlin said:
KeiranShikari said:
A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP. It certainly fits in well with Japan's other top selling anime in Bakemonogatari, K-on and Lucky Star.
seems like someone haven't heard about RoE...

So what? How would Rebuild of Evangelion change Shikari's views on the original Eva?
Are the movies so bad that they make it look better?


i'm not going to argue about something already stated by mostly every official critics made to it.
It's your opinion to think something like that about a movie that has been stated a masterpiece worldwide (talking about 2.0, 1.0 is more like a re-make)
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rurouni kenshin, gintama, dbz, steins;gate, kiss x sis, and toradora
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Victlin said:
i'm not going to argue about something already stated by mostly every official critics made to it.
It's your opinion to think something like that about a movie that has been stated a masterpiece worldwide (talking about 2.0, 1.0 is more like a re-make)

Except I haven't even watched the goddamn movies. I haven't adressed the quality of the movies at all, ignoring that little question.
I'm just stating that they will not change anyone's view on the original Eva. Get it now?

Example: I think Asuka is annoying in Neon Genesis Evangelion, the remakes will not change that.


I don't know if I'm wording this well, because as you may have noticed, my mother language isn't English, but neither is yours...
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Because it's considered art, Grave of the Fireflys will ALWAYS be remembered. It even comes on some of the classic movie channels!
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Hei's collar bones will go down in history.
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One Piece obviously, it's fking legendary.
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KeiranShikari said:
A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP.


Coming from someone who likes Utena, I find it funny.
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Yandy said:
KeiranShikari said:
A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP.


Coming from someone who likes Utena, I find it funny.


I know right? Utena was literally 3/4 monster of the week and it even repeated the same opponents 3x
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Sailor Moon <3

Even if I didn't rate it that highly.
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Probably One Piece, Steins;gate, clannad as, and all of the anime that are pretty much legendary right now like yyh, rurouni kenshin, dbz..
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The ones I saw 10 years ago that I still live/love till this day. I'm 20 btw:

Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Inuyasha, Dragonball Z, Eureka 7, Trigun, Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, Paranoia Agent, Xenosaga, S-Cry-ed, FLCL.

The ones that came out more recently that might have that lasting presentation to me:

Black Lagoon, Hell Girl, Bakemonogatari, Spice and Wolf, Ergo Proxy, Higurashi, Shiki, Ouran High School Host Club, Bakuman, Death Note.

I can/have watch(ed) all of these shows multiple times and not get bored.
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cowboy bebop
dbz
rurouni kenshin
yu yu hakusho
one piece
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Gurren Lagann , Code Geass , Evangelion , Hellsing , Hajime no Ippo , Steins;Gate
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I'm certain that most if not everyone, even non anime watchers, in the US of A knows what Dragon Ball is or at the very least heard of it.

why only the us of a? i think some some penguins southpole even heard about dragonball...
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Yandy said:
KeiranShikari said:
A mash up of terrible characters (Misato Katsuragi was an exception) average battle of the week formula, meaningless religious symbols to make it seem DEEP.


Coming from someone who likes Utena, I find it funny.


But I liked every character in that one and it was funny, 2 things that NGE didn't have. Well apart from Asuka and Shinji's relationship.
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are we not talikng about eva when its 18 years old so why is it coming up here


i say nothing has had the influence or Impact on future products produced has been made in the last ten years

or at least in any of the same way stuff like Atom Joe Kyojin no Hoshi Tiger mask RnK[Manga] Kamen rider [Manga] Yamato Gundam Seiya Sailor moon and Eva have has that there icon to generations of people

before
naruto comes up that is just a cobunation of things from old ninja folk tales and sj tropes
Bleach its not going to go down as a masterpiece of samurai Fiction
One Piece the biggest selling manga of all time its place in history is not up for debate
Geaas[ gundam mrk II maybe
Clannad many go down as one of the to 200 vn of the past 15 years but the anime not
Haruhi -its an ln adapataion among the sea of others
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Of animes currently being aired that I've watched I think Doraemon, Detective Conan and One Piece won't be forgotten even long after they're done.
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fullmetal alchemist has been running for about almost 10 years now (animated)
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KeiranShikari said:
Hei's collar bones will go down in history.
I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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Naruto.
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Grave of the Fireflys, GiTS and anime that people start with, regardless of age. Sailor Moon or DBZ for those that are around 25yo now.
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Mazinger Z turned into an anime that would never have been forgotten regardless of how many years progressed by and as I grew into an adult.

Ripe age of four years old to my now twenty-five year old self.

I had only recently remembered what the title of the anime was all of a month back from churning through my memory trying to remember any key features or clues as to what my first anime watch had been and I managed to hit strong nostalgia after seeing this again.
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personally i won't forget:
chobits
kimi ga nozomu eien
clannad
code geass
death note
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rainbow nisha rokubou no shichinin

globally then the mainstream ones haruhi naruto bleach dbz gundam etc.
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Anything by Studio Ghibli is a definite. I think Haruhi Suzumiya, Evangelion and Death Note will be fondly remembered for a few decades or so.
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Key animes for sure.

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all the popular ones rite now ( the on-gong ones )
from 10 years ago i havent forgotten

dragonball
shamen king
pokemon
yu gi oh

idk the shows i watched on tv when i was little ;p

and doromon ;p
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Key animes for sure.

But I'll always have a special place in my heart for Myself;Yourself and H2O: Footprints in the Sand.

wow it's like reading something i would say ^^ love(d) those shows :D
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Most mega animes will be hard to forget. (Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Gintama, Pokemon, Yugioh, ect...) I'm excluding case closed though cause its...terrible ~_~ .

Anyhow, big ones for me will be Gantz, Full Metal Brotherhood, Big O, and Last Exile.
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