Raziel1991 said: That's assuming everybody played ME2 on the hardest difficulties. On hard or normal it's bloody fun to use and it's quite useful.Can I remind how useless biotic charge was? Using that power was pretty much commiting suicide, specially on the hardest difficulty settings By using hardest difficulty as a rule then just about every single game that have skills, weapons, abilities will have some moves inferior than others, which makes it moot to suggest one particular game have useless powers when every game shares that. |
Tachii said: Raziel1991 said: That's assuming everybody played ME2 on the hardest difficulties. On hard or normal it's bloody fun to use and it's quite useful.Can I remind how useless biotic charge was? Using that power was pretty much commiting suicide, specially on the hardest difficulty settings By using hardest difficulty as a rule then just about every single game that have skills, weapons, abilities will have some moves inferior than others, which makes it moot to suggest one particular game have useless powers when every game shares that. So you are admitting that ME2 targeted casuals instead of balancing all difficulties? |
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Raziel1991 said: ROFL, and ME2 didnt have useless powers? LOL Can I remind how useless biotic charge was? Using that power was pretty much commiting suicide, specially on the hardest difficulty settings Do I need to remind you ME1 had class Skills, THAT FLAT OUT DIDN'T WORK, WHICH THEY NEVER BOTHERED FIXING EVEN AFTER THEY PORTED THE DAMN GAME. Anyone ever managed to kill some one with a grenade? Anyone? And I never said it didn't have any useless skills, but it was still better then an entire system that had no purpose. Fai said: So you are admitting that ME2 targeted casuals instead of balancing all difficulties? are you implying ME1 was even remotely balanced for ANY difficulty? |
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Tachii said: My thoughts exactly. Even if they screw it all up it's still a much better step forward than any other RPG I can think of has done lately.As for uselessness of saved games, I think whatever people might complain about it, it's still a big up from say, every other game out there. ME is the first series of games I played that made you carry over saved games, even though none of the stuff carried from from ME1 to ME2 was particularly interesting, mostly in the forms of mails and brief appearances. Even from reading the mails, I feel more of a sense of immersion. Also guys are you fucking serious about those 2d sprites? I'm willing to bet none of you even noticed it when you played it until you saw the video. It's just a background after all, who cares. No point wasting hours and hours on making a damn background you can't interact with anyways. Anyways, outside of the lift and ammo power, pretty much all are useless in both 1 and 2, simply blasting aways is just that much more efficient. |
| Yes, because there are other games that are perfect, so ME sucks when compared with them. Better stop nitpicking and read this: http://io9.com/5886178/why-mass-effect-is-the-most-important-science-fiction-universe-of-our-generation |
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corbenic said: Yes, because there are other games that are perfect, so ME sucks when compared with them. Better stop nitpicking and read this: [url=http://io9.com/5886178/why-mass-effect-is-the-most-important-science-fiction-universe-of-our-generation]http://io9.com/5886178/why-mass-effect-is-the-most-important-science-fiction-universe-of-our-generation That article is outright wrong. Read up to the second point of theirs and stopped. So much fanboi-ism my brain can't take. Don't get me wrong, ME has a decent universe, but thats ME1. And even then, majority of actually competent non-game fiction writers triumph that. The most important science fiction of our generation is either bsg or firefly(going to go with firefly because joss whedon is a genius). Not a third person shooter game. |
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| Joss Whedon a genius, what. How can you say that with a straight face after Dollhouse. BSG universe was created in 1978, so it being our generation is arguable (it's true though that the new tv series is quite a masterpiece, at least I consider it to be). I don't understand why you're saying that it's specifically ME1 that had a good universe when ME2 and 3 are set in the very same one. I'm not convinced regarding the conclusion of the article myself, but I don't dismiss it either, it's something to think about as far as I'm concerned. And don't be offended Fai, but I've seen a few of your posts and you come off as quite a fanboy yourself. Like in the Kingdom of Amalur thread, fanboying over this mediocre and generic setting. Not being personal, just an observation. |
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Fai said: Not sure where you got that assumption.Tachii said: Raziel1991 said: That's assuming everybody played ME2 on the hardest difficulties. On hard or normal it's bloody fun to use and it's quite useful.Can I remind how useless biotic charge was? Using that power was pretty much commiting suicide, specially on the hardest difficulty settings By using hardest difficulty as a rule then just about every single game that have skills, weapons, abilities will have some moves inferior than others, which makes it moot to suggest one particular game have useless powers when every game shares that. So you are admitting that ME2 targeted casuals instead of balancing all difficulties? Nor do I want to get into this discussion with you. Knowing what you posted in this thread and others, there will just be endless texts with both of us getting nowhere. |
corbenic said: Joss Whedon a genius, what. How can you say that with a straight face after Dollhouse. BSG universe was created in 1978, so it being our generation is arguable (it's true though that the new tv series is quite a masterpiece, at least I consider it to be). I don't understand why you're saying that it's specifically ME1 that had a good universe when ME2 and 3 are set in the very same one. I'm not convinced regarding the conclusion of the article myself, but I don't dismiss it either, it's something to think about as far as I'm concerned. And don't be offended Fai, but I've seen a few of your posts and you come off as quite a fanboy yourself. Like in the Kingdom of Amalur thread, fanboying over this mediocre and generic setting. Not being personal, just an observation. I liked Dollhouse. The idea was a pure genius and the episodes actually written and directed by Whedon were awesome, also possibly best series finale ever. as always I am blaming FOX for the rest and for giving him mediocre writing team. old bsg has nothing to do with nu-bsg. Entirelly different lore. ME2 had very washed down universe in comparison from ME1. Not enough exploration, not enounc SCI in the FI. Too much commercial dance clubs. ME 3 is straight up boring so far and plot pretty much tries to rip off bsg and deus ex all at the same time..yes there's a whole game script leaked already for quite some time and the b-movie style of it pretty much makes that article plain wrong Amalur is the first rpg since Dragon Age Origins tthat actually excites me. Its full of scenery porn and artistic unique designs (and monster, dungeon and landscape designs are best in this decade). However I won't go around claiming its "The most important fantasy work of this decade". |
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corbenic said: Well, some interesting points and all, but also quite pointless when you consider that it's not really true anymore. Humans are way more important as it was shown in ME2 and the cosmic horror aspect of the Reapers largely disappeared the moment Sovereign actually got taken out, and certainly by the end of ME3 I'm afraid.Yes, because there are other games that are perfect, so ME sucks when compared with them. Better stop nitpicking and read this: [url=http://io9.com/5886178/why-mass-effect-is-the-most-important-science-fiction-universe-of-our-generation]http://io9.com/5886178/why-mass-effect-is-the-most-important-science-fiction-universe-of-our-generation And heh, I would neither count Firefly or BSG anywhere near being the best Scifis. Sure, I dropped BSG about halfway in, but I got the ending sufficiently spoiled so I rest my case with that, and Firefly was really just a episodic adventure series a la Cowboy Bebop set in a pretty forgettable setting. Would definitely put the ME universe way higher than those. Fai said: That doesn't make any sense, the universe is the same, even if ME2 doesn't portray it as well as ME1. Plus exploring the random balls of rock with endlessly recycled maps, while a fun timewaster, added pretty much noithing to the universe.ME2 had very washed down universe in comparison from ME1. Not enough exploration, not enounc SCI in the FI. Too much commercial dance clubs. |
Baman said: . Fai said: That doesn't make any sense, the universe is the same, even if ME2 doesn't portray it as well as ME1. Plus exploring the random balls of rock with endlessly recycled maps, while a fun timewaster, added pretty much noithing to the universe.ME2 had very washed down universe in comparison from ME1. Not enough exploration, not enounc SCI in the FI. Too much commercial dance clubs. Star Wars prequels, Star Wars original trilogy, Knights of old Old republic, TORCRAFT Universe is also the same. Does not change the fact that prequels lore and universe is uninspired, TORcraft universe is generic and KOTOR and SW:original_trilogy ones are awesome. ME1 might have had problems with generation of planets and mako controls but idea was great. All bioware needed was to perfect it. I still remember stumbling upon the prothean ruins in some random planet that reacted to Asari Consort's medallion she game me in Citadel. In ME2 on other hand what do we visit? A very streamlined town generic Citadel that now looks like a shopping mall. A dance club. The only remotely "oh my god awesome" view was cutscenes involving the dead reaper(if that was in me2 and not me1) As for Reapers. Well, yeah. Don't expect anything grand in terms of them...Even bigger let down than Skyrim's dragons...What Bioware has in store for them is bad, Dragon Age II bad. |
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| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| Terrible demo. The single player section was laughable for a multitude of reasons, starting with the god awful new character who looks like he belongs on Jersey Shore. They're trying to do the whole scripted cinematic gameplay thing but it simply isn't working, no thanks to the fact everything is clunky as hell and the animations are hilariously bad. The environments felt completely emotionless too which was something that really bothered me. The multiplayer was poor but slightly better, horde mode in any games is pretty difficult to screw up on. Although when people are saying they enjoy the online more than the single player in a story focused trilogy then you're doing it wrong. The amount and length of the loading screens is insane though. And don't even get me started on that facepalm worthy scene with the kid. |
| Feels like ME to me. Plus, they threw you into 2 very tiny scenario's. Stop complaining. |
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| Hmmm, I'll wait until the game comes out before I make any assumptions... |
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| Can't wait for this game man!! I played the shit out of ME and ME2.. This and Dues Ex were the two expansions that I had been waiting for most in the past year :P |
| I'm probably getting ahead of myself here but I'm predicting even crappier more streamlined sequels after ME3. |
| I'm boycotting ME3 for two reasons. #1. Origin #2. Cutting content and selling it back to us as DLC. Completely unacceptable. |
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| I'm excited for ME3, but I too however was a little disappointed with the ME3 demo, I felt like it was a little too random from where ME2 and The Arrival DLC left off but that's jut me. It did feel a little more Gears of Warsy and not like Mass Effect, but like someone else posted on here, can't just judge an entire game by a small demo. Out of ME1 and ME2 though over all ME2 is probably my favorite but there are certain aspects of ME1 that I liked better. But I really liked the final mission in ME2, I liked how you got to make use of almost every character even if you didn't particularly use them through out the game I mean cmon, I only used Jack, Kasumi, Miranda, Tali and Garrus most of the time, I kinda felt that the other characters were a little useless/not nearly as good. It's not that I didn't like the characters at all, I just didn't think they were useful in battle. But I liked how they made every character useful in the last mission, that was pretty cool. Also, I don't really like how they changed Ashley's appearance so drastically for ME3, she doesn't look bad, I just don't get the same feel of looking at Ashley as I did in the previous two games. I think the game is going to be good, I just hope it lives up to ME2 because in my opinion I thought that game was really good and so was the first one. And as for the little "sprites" in the background, who cares? Like someone else said, I highly doubt anyone is even really paying attention to the little people hundreds of miles away running around, you're gonna be focusing on Shepard and what's going on right in front of you. Also, it takes a lot of money to make a game, especially now a days, so they can't be spending hours and hours trying to make perfect little people running around in the background miles away. I feel like some people are just trying to find little reasons why not to like the game and/or game series. But like I said, I think the game is going to be good but I also believe it's going to have cons about it too just like ME1 and ME2 did. Let's face it, not every game is going to be perfect to the T. But I do agree though some things are just cash ins and mainstreamness like the new multiplayer for ME3, I was a little annoyed that they added that in and the stupid kinect compatibility. Kind of takes away from the originality that is Mass Effect by making it into every other game out there, but I'm glad the multiplayer is at least it's own separate thing and doesn't interfere with the actual story mode of the game. But yeah, I can't wait for it, I think it's going to be really good. :) |
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| Going to be pirated def since they're trying to milk insane amounts of money. The whole thing will probably cost about 500 bucks when it finally ends up being finished with all the DLCs etc. Just hope they can get multiplayer working since it was pretty fun. |
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| Yo! One of my friends has been telling me alot about this series. I am going to give it a try when I get some extra cash. Guess it would be best to start with the first version, as to enjoy the story the best. |
| Will buy Mass Effect 3 regardless. Mostly because I want get a chance to sex up Garrus and Tali again. ...But that's beside the point. |
| Oh well, ditched my preorder. The special edition didn't have that much awesome stuff, only the artbook and the fancy box made it worth it. But after taking a peek into the leaked script, I'm starting to have some doubts, so I think I'd rather wait and see. |
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Fabzor said: Going to be pirated def since they're trying to milk insane amounts of money. The whole thing will probably cost about 500 bucks when it finally ends up being finished with all the DLCs etc. Just hope they can get multiplayer working since it was pretty fun. not 500. Mass effect III if you include all dlcs, ALREADY costs around 870$... Baman said: Oh well, ditched my preorder. The special edition didn't have that much awesome stuff, only the artbook and the fancy box made it worth it. But after taking a peek into the leaked script, I'm starting to have some doubts, so I think I'd rather wait and see. I did not take a peek. I thoroughly read it and I know for sure I have a lot more than just "some" doubts. The ending in particular and the fact that your choices in previous games Everything in that script reeks of Dragon Age II, down to Its full of plot-devices, horrible cliches, b-movie dialogue and deus ex machina asspulls. |
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Vinter said: I'm boycotting ME3 for two reasons. #1. Origin #2. Cutting content and selling it back to us as DLC. Completely unacceptable. dont tell me you're BUYING your anime we all know ppl are torrenting animes so whats the diffr anime or game lol really u buy it if u can afford it and u like it, otherwise u pirate it, its not like bioware doesn't know pirating exists or something, people should stop be gay and admit it: everyone uses torrents even celebrities with shitload of money do for convenience |
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incisorr said: Vinter said: I'm boycotting ME3 for two reasons. #1. Origin #2. Cutting content and selling it back to us as DLC. Completely unacceptable. dont tell me you're BUYING your anime we all know ppl are torrenting animes so whats the diffr anime or game lol really u buy it if u can afford it and u like it, otherwise u pirate it, its not like bioware doesn't know pirating exists or something, people should stop be gay and admit it: everyone uses torrents even celebrities with shitload of money do for convenience I just can't decide whether this post should be insulting because of blatant homophobia or because of utter misuse of stereotypes. Yes. Some people buy anime. A lot of them actually. Most of people who still have a soul make sure to buy the dvds of the shows they like once they are licensed in the western part of the world. |
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| Well if you buy the collector's edition of ME3 it comes with the DLC along with all the other "goodies" for only 20 bucks extra.. so for those who buy the regular edition they want the DLC for free when we who buy the collector's edition have to pay extra? lol if you don't want to pay for the DLC then don't get it, it's not going to be a ridiculously important part of the game anyway, that's why they make it DLC. sure it's nice to have some extra characters and missions and what not, but it's not a mandatory thing to complete the game, especially the DLC they supposedly cut from ME3. If you want it, buy it. if you don't wanna spend the money then don't get it. I understand that it's annoying but that's how it's gonna be with DLC. |
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akari13x said: Well if you buy the collector's edition of ME3 it comes with the DLC along with all the other "goodies" for only 20 bucks extra.. so for those who buy the regular edition they want the DLC for free when we who buy the collector's edition have to pay extra? lol if you don't want to pay for the DLC then don't get it, it's not going to be a ridiculously important part of the game anyway, that's why they make it DLC. sure it's nice to have some extra characters and missions and what not, but it's not a mandatory thing to complete the game, especially the DLC they supposedly cut from ME3. If you want it, buy it. if you don't wanna spend the money then don't get it. I understand that it's annoying but that's how it's gonna be with DLC. Not ridiculously important part? One of DLC's is a friggin PROTHEAN CHARACTER. You know, character from a race around which the entire lore revolves? THAT is exactly what takes this whole dlc fiasco way too far and it was already wayu too far. When one buys a game one expects a FULL game and not a PART of it. And ME3 is not even a good game, so I should pay an extra few hundred just so I could have a complete game by which I will most likely be horribly disappointed? There's a line in business ethics. EAware has crossed it long time ago. |
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nerb said: jrgcool35 said: It sucks it's not on Steam. It was already bad enough those assholes made it impossible to get the DLC without their atrocious in-game cerberus bullshit (which made me just not buy it, period. Sure, I don't know who the hell the shadow broker is, and I guess there's a ninja chick I don't get to meet, but at least I spent the $30 the DLC would have cost on ten other games ) but now you can't even buy the game anywhere else.I won't buy it until I can use it without Origin TYVM. I know, I bought all the games on steam because I love the way Steam handles their downloads etc, the cerberus thing wasn't that bad to be honest but this origin thing just crosses the line. |
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Fai said: Ugh, people will believe anything. You do know that rediculous amount includes things like the 140$ keyboard that just give you the collector assault rifle, right? As a matter of fact, all the physical swag that you can get(shown here) with "DLC" attached to it amounts to $630, and that's not including the figure sets. The only reason people actually believe this stat from the gaming news organizations(in this case, destructoid) is because fucking idiots like you won't do your research. You might as well be drinking the Fox News Koolaid for all I know.Mass effect III if you include all dlcs, ALREADY costs around 870$... Seriously though, people are just looking for reasons to hate this game because of it's immense popularity. They know it's going to be big and they are looking for a reason not to buy it themselves. All I can do is plead that people not be stupid and get caught up in the random hate. Yes, Origin sucks and is the main reason people don't want to buy ME3, but don't go looking for shit that doesn't even exist as a reason to dislike the game. |
Fai said: 1. It's not a "few hundred", it's $70 dollars.Not ridiculously important part? One of DLC's is a friggin PROTHEAN CHARACTER. You know, character from a race around which the entire lore revolves? THAT is exactly what takes this whole dlc fiasco way too far and it was already wayu too far. When one buys a game one expects a FULL game and not a PART of it. And ME3 is not even a good game, so I should pay an extra few hundred just so I could have a complete game by which I will most likely be horribly disappointed? There's a line in business ethics. EAware has crossed it long time ago. 2. Play the game before you say it's not any good. ... But yes, I'll agree with you about the Prothean DLC. |
GogettersFeb 28, 2012 7:04 PM
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corbenic said: Cool spoiler there. Not really a spoiler if they advertise it on the box. |
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Vinter said: corbenic said: Cool spoiler there. Not really a spoiler if they advertise it on the box. And in almost every ad for the game on the internet. And in official dlc trailer. And in promo articles surrounding the DLC. And in preorder pages. Defiance said: Fai said: Ugh, people will believe anything. You do know that rediculous amount includes things like the 140$ keyboard that just give you the collector assault rifle, right? As a matter of fact, all the physical swag that you can get(shown here) with "DLC" attached to it amounts to $630, and that's not including the figure sets. The only reason people actually believe this stat from the gaming news organizations(in this case, destructoid) is because fucking idiots like you won't do your research. You might as well be drinking the Fox News Koolaid for all I know.Mass effect III if you include all dlcs, ALREADY costs around 870$... Seriously though, people are just looking for reasons to hate this game because of it's immense popularity. They know it's going to be big and they are looking for a reason not to buy it themselves. All I can do is plead that people not be stupid and get caught up in the random hate. Yes, Origin sucks and is the main reason people don't want to buy ME3, but don't go looking for shit that doesn't even exist as a reason to dislike the game. Question 1 : Does a DLC make game more complete and add things I would not have without it? YES. Question 2 : Do I need to buy those items to get the dlc? YES. Question 3: do people care about overpriced razor lame character figurines and all that other stuff? NO. QUestion 4: Will people buy all that lame money-milking stuff purely because of codes? YES. Thus the full game price. This DLC concept is just as ridiculous as adding DLC codes to soda and chips. Gogetters said: 2. Play the game before you say it's not any good. Reading an entire script for the game and gasping at its vomit inducing b-movie cliches and horrible writing quality akin to Dragon Age II was enough. Playing the incredibly streamlined commercial gearsofwars-y demo only sealed it all. |
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Fai said: All that DLC does is give you an additional in game retro weapon(and its the same item for every purchase) lol, it does not change your experience of the game in the slightest. You are just looking for a reason to bitch and moan. You wouldn't even admit in your post that you were mistaken and just followed what some asshole on the interwebz wrote. The fact that I have pointed it out to you and didn't refute a single thing in my post just shows how ignorant you are choosing to be.Defiance said: Fai said: Ugh, people will believe anything. You do know that rediculous amount includes things like the 140$ keyboard that just give you the collector assault rifle, right? As a matter of fact, all the physical swag that you can get(shown here) with "DLC" attached to it amounts to $630, and that's not including the figure sets. The only reason people actually believe this stat from the gaming news organizations(in this case, destructoid) is because fucking idiots like you won't do your research. You might as well be drinking the Fox News Koolaid for all I know.Mass effect III if you include all dlcs, ALREADY costs around 870$... Seriously though, people are just looking for reasons to hate this game because of it's immense popularity. They know it's going to be big and they are looking for a reason not to buy it themselves. All I can do is plead that people not be stupid and get caught up in the random hate. Yes, Origin sucks and is the main reason people don't want to buy ME3, but don't go looking for shit that doesn't even exist as a reason to dislike the game. Question 1 : Does a DLC make game more complete and add things I would not have without it? YES. Question 2 : Do I need to buy those items to get the dlc? YES. Question 3: do people care about overpriced razor lame character figurines and all that other stuff? NO. QUestion 4: Will people buy all that lame money-milking stuff purely because of codes? YES. Thus the full game price. This DLC concept is just as ridiculous as adding DLC codes to soda and chips. Also, so what if they add dlc content? Bethesda has been doing it for ages, you make it seem like Bioware is some sort of monster that is doing something completely unheard of. Not to mention those "overpriced" razor items that you say nobody wants have sold out, don't get mad bro just because you can't afford them. |
Defiance said: Fai said: All that DLC does is give you an additional in game retro weapon(and its the same item for every purchase) lol, it does not change your experience of the game in the slightest. .Defiance said: Fai said: Ugh, people will believe anything. You do know that rediculous amount includes things like the 140$ keyboard that just give you the collector assault rifle, right? As a matter of fact, all the physical swag that you can get(shown here) with "DLC" attached to it amounts to $630, and that's not including the figure sets. The only reason people actually believe this stat from the gaming news organizations(in this case, destructoid) is because fucking idiots like you won't do your research. You might as well be drinking the Fox News Koolaid for all I know.Mass effect III if you include all dlcs, ALREADY costs around 870$... Seriously though, people are just looking for reasons to hate this game because of it's immense popularity. They know it's going to be big and they are looking for a reason not to buy it themselves. All I can do is plead that people not be stupid and get caught up in the random hate. Yes, Origin sucks and is the main reason people don't want to buy ME3, but don't go looking for shit that doesn't even exist as a reason to dislike the game. Question 1 : Does a DLC make game more complete and add things I would not have without it? YES. Question 2 : Do I need to buy those items to get the dlc? YES. Question 3: do people care about overpriced razor lame character figurines and all that other stuff? NO. QUestion 4: Will people buy all that lame money-milking stuff purely because of codes? YES. Thus the full game price. This DLC concept is just as ridiculous as adding DLC codes to soda and chips. It does not matter if its unimportant, they are still strpping away content away from the full game. Also have you ever heared about the "From ashes" DLC? And also its true that other developers also sell DLC, but that does not stop this from being wrong. And whats worse is that the DLC comes out the same day the game is released, which means they stripped the content out of the full game and sell you an incomplete product in order to sell it as DLC and milk the shit out of the consumer. You see even if I were rich I would not buy this shit simply beacuse bioware is taking me like an idiot. LOL paying 870 dollars so you can get the complete game. You do realize you can buy like 12 games with this amount of money right? Also I do not remember any game that has 870 dollars worth of DLC |
Raziel1991Feb 29, 2012 5:43 AM
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Assassin9399 said: I don't get the people who complain about the fact that there is DLC on day one. If they published it just a few months later, no one would complain at all. Would you be happier if they just putted the DLC in the main game straight away and just made the game more expensive? Surely you wouldn't complain then. If you don't want to pay the money, then don't buy the DLC. You can still enjoy the game. Thats the thing, They should NOT have made it more expensive. Games are already highly overpriced It does not make ethical sense to cut out parts of the game. Also, no, you still can't enjoy the game as ME3 is using the Origin spyware system. NOt to mention that, frankly, there's not much to enjoy in the entire game. The only reason I was ever considering buying ME3 after the atrocious news about its "Features" and the leaked full script of the game making me vomit was because my ocd compels me to complete game franchises I play. By the current value of ME3 I would have waited till game drops into bargain bin for 20$ or so( So I could buy it at its actual value), but the huge idiocy of DLC and games atrocity and online-drm and origin-requirement made sure I won't buy the game for at least few years. |
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| Also, previous times when BioWare pulled this, like with ME2, the DLC was free. This time they're literally removing content they've already made, from the game, and trying to sell it back to us afterwards. Imagine buying a painting, lets say a handmade Mona Lisa copy by some famous painter. And when it's delivered, they take out some scissors and cut out a big piece of it. Then they turn around and go: "If you want this part with the face on it you're going to have to pay extra." It's fucking ludicrous. |
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Fai said: akari13x said: Well if you buy the collector's edition of ME3 it comes with the DLC along with all the other "goodies" for only 20 bucks extra.. so for those who buy the regular edition they want the DLC for free when we who buy the collector's edition have to pay extra? lol if you don't want to pay for the DLC then don't get it, it's not going to be a ridiculously important part of the game anyway, that's why they make it DLC. sure it's nice to have some extra characters and missions and what not, but it's not a mandatory thing to complete the game, especially the DLC they supposedly cut from ME3. If you want it, buy it. if you don't wanna spend the money then don't get it. I understand that it's annoying but that's how it's gonna be with DLC. Not ridiculously important part? One of DLC's is a friggin PROTHEAN CHARACTER. You know, character from a race around which the entire lore revolves? THAT is exactly what takes this whole dlc fiasco way too far and it was already wayu too far. When one buys a game one expects a FULL game and not a PART of it. And ME3 is not even a good game, so I should pay an extra few hundred just so I could have a complete game by which I will most likely be horribly disappointed? There's a line in business ethics. EAware has crossed it long time ago. I see your point, but there's nothing you can really do about it. It's Bioware's game and they can do whatever they want with it. Some people care about what they're doing and some people don't. Some people will think that spending the extra 10 or whatever amount of dollars on the DLC is worth it because that's what they enjoy and find value in it, and others like you who don't have an interest in ME3 wouldn't want to pay the money for it. Do I wish it free and a part of the main game? Duh, of course, that'd be awesome to get that DLC for free, but is that how it works? No. But to me spending the extra 20 bucks on the DLC and the other things that comes with the Collector's Edition is worth it because that's what is of value to me. From here it's all about opinion really and what you think holds value to you. |
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| You can get ALL the DLC (Not including Amalur Demo DLC) by Pre-Ordering the Digital Deluxe Edition or the N7 Collector's Edition from Origin and the Art of the Mass Effect Universe from Barnes and Noble. Both Digital Deluxe Edition and N7 Collector's Edition is $79.99, Art of the Mass Effect Universe is $26 dollars. Grand total - $105 http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content#Mass_Effect_3 This $870 crap is including stuff which is not DLC and is not what the average person would buy. $44.99 Liara figurine $80 4 Mass Effect 3 toys $59.99 Mass Effect 3 controller $209.99 Chimera 5.1 Headset $34.99 Mousepad $79.99 Messenger Bag $24.99 iPhone case $79.99 Mouse $139.99 Keyboard So, no, the "complete" game is not $870 dollars. I'm going to copy Totalbiscuit here by saying that DLC is fine if it's not taking development time away from the game. The art team has nothing to do the last few weeks, so creating new armor and weapon models and slapping them onto some already existing programming is perfectly fine for day 1 DLC. The Prothean character; however, is not and should have been part of the game. |
GogettersFeb 29, 2012 10:05 AM
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akari13x said: others like you who don't have an interest in ME3 wouldn't want to pay the money for it. What makes you think we don't care? Just because our commitment to our principles of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour is stronger than our desire to play the game, that doesn't mean we don't want to play it. It doesn't mean we haven't played the other games and loved them, and waited with bated breath to see how the trilogy ends. I just means we're not willing to stand for being screwed over. This isn't just about Mass Effect, this is about the industry as a whole. This kind of shit should NOT be tolerated by anyone. |
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Vinter said: akari13x said: others like you who don't have an interest in ME3 wouldn't want to pay the money for it. What makes you think we don't care? Just because our commitment to our principles of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour is stronger than our desire to play the game, that doesn't mean we don't want to play it. It doesn't mean we haven't played the other games and loved them, and waited with bated breath to see how the trilogy ends. I just means we're not willing to stand for being screwed over. This isn't just about Mass Effect, this is about the industry as a whole. This kind of shit should NOT be tolerated by anyone. I understand where you're coming from, I think I worded what I meant wrong, sorry. But sure yeah it pisses me off too but it's not like I can really do anything about it you know? This is how society works and everything is about money. Like yeah I think it's a rip off to pay 80 dollars for some Collector's edition but I only bought that version because I wanted the new character and missions, this was way before the whole controversial DLC with ME3. Sure it's fucked up cutting it and then selling it back, but this is how the gaming industry works, it's all about money and unfortunately if we want to play games we like and want then we're going to have to pay what the industry wants, unless we go on bargain sites or something and get it for cheaper. Trust me I agree, it's pretty messed up, but I don't really think that we can do anything about it, unless a mass amount of people boycott video games to where it'll put a huge dent in the industry but that's not going to happen because not enough people are going to be willing to do something like that. It's just something that we're going to have to deal with I guess. |
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