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08-18-11, 12:40 PM

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The ending reminded me of Madoka ... weird but sad ... 8/10.
 
09-22-11, 4:42 PM

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The ending reminded me of Madoka

But Madoka was 100 times better. I so regret watching C, for me it was damn bad.
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09-24-11, 9:31 AM

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Im keeping this at a 9/10 because I actually liked the ending and the whole series overall, I guess my only wish for the series is the fact that we weren't shown the future of Mikuni and others and that Yoga's alone-ish DX
Awesome that they actually brought back Masakaki and the "higher-ups" scene were quite well put though it leaves other open questions
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09-30-11, 5:30 PM

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That was a excellent way to end an anime. It was bittersweet as Kimimaro is on a present where he doesn't belong, but got a whole new bright future ahead of him.
I thought he was going to accept going back to the Finalcial District to see Msyu again, but I guess he knew better than follow a random impulse.
Too bad we could only see a couple of good episodes of good character interactions. Most of it was inner struggle (Good vs Bad) and that on excess is no fun.

Overall very good. I felt the introduction of characters took a little too long and some of the logic was rather contradictory but it was a dam good watch.
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10-16-11, 6:59 AM

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I must admit, the ending was rather confusing at first glance and it took me a bit of rewinding and googling to make sense of everything.

Thing's I've noticed/concluded:

-Yoga's father fought in the Financial District for his family's future (I think more specifically for Yoga's future which is probably why their assets look similar). However as for how Yoga remained unaffected from his father's bankruptcy I simply have come to the assumption that he may have found a way to minimalize the damage done to his son's future at the cost of his own life (and possibly his wife's life (Yoga's mother) as well).

-Masyu is Yoga's future (the anime seemed to hint that it's his future daughter who's yet to be born) and it seems that Yoga will possibly meet her again in the future when he has a family.

-Yoga is not a ghost and is still alive. The reason why "Hanabi" who was walking at the very end with all the little children didn't notice him was because it wasn't her. This is explained by the fact that Yoga stopped in his tracks when he was about to call out for her. This is also later reaffirmed by Masakaki who said "Upon seeing a caregiver that looks so much like the girl you were once fond of must make you think, "Ah, Maybe she's also off somewhere, enjoying a blessed future!"". This also hints at the fact Hanabi may still yet be alive somewhere and is living a good life.

-The house at the very end WAS Hanabi's house, however it's now occupied by some random family (Not to be confused with Ebara Daisuke's family as it's firstly not his house, the nameplate at the front of the house doesn't spell his family's name, and Ebara had 3 children (his wife being pregnant at the time) not 2).

-The Far East Financial district seems to have been sealed away (for the time being) until someone willing to start gambling their futures for midas money comes along again.

All in all, I found this to be quite an entertaining anime albeit it did seem a little rushed and compressed. The ending was very open ended and I must admit it wasn't very direct in telling the viewer what the hell happened after everything ended. However, looking at everything from the main character's point of view I can't help but just smile at how everything turned out in the end. It probably would've been a much better anime given the extra episodes, but in the end I thought it was a good watch for 11 episodes. =3
 
10-24-11, 10:11 AM

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Overall, the anime was quite good though it was pretty confusing throughout the series.

The kissing scene was badly made. Why they have to sensor it while brutal fights between Assets is OK? But Kimimaro x Msyu all the way~

Msyu vs Q was also good, can feel the intense when Msyu's Heated Economy was blocked by Q's Economy Blockade. As for Mikuni vs Kimimaro, their fight was also good, and I especially like it when Kimimaro crushed Mikuni's Direct with his own hand.

To sum up, it was fairly a decent anime for the year 2011, not the best but worth to watch~
 
11-10-11, 11:18 AM

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It seems to save both the present and future, one must pay the price of being alone. Some would, some wouldn't.
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11-14-11, 5:26 AM

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Disappointing anime. Economics and magic just doesn't work. At least not directly. Madoka's ending work because the premise was based on magic. Higashi no Eden's ending also work because the solution, although not possible in real life, is at least 'believable'. [C] on the other hand brings about a real premise (problem) and tries to solve it by magic. It just doesn't work.

I'd rather a more mundane situation involving fiscal stimulus and monetary policy. The devaluation of the German currency during the Great Depression, bursting of the housing bubble are rather similar to what happened. We didn't get out of that through magic. We got out of that by realizing that an economy isn't just about the money flowing in the financial markets.

Yes, yes, I know anime, logic etc. But again, like I said in the post for ep10, this series stretched my willing suspension of disbelief waaaaaay too much.

The only compliment I can offer is that the animation quality is pretty high and the music is pretty good. Story and characters are a mess.
 
12-01-11, 7:20 PM

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Ahh why is it every time I end an anime and go read up the forums people have complain about details and why the ending is never good. And I even get the reference to Madoka even less, Madoka was a pure Mahou Shoujo only with a very dark plot device with a lot of hype doing the selling for it (just like Death Note).

Also not even once I have seen the word magic appear in the anime, I'd call it more closer to supernatural and even then all the fights were merely adding action and a plot device to the story. Like how losing and winning can affect the outside world. They could have used anything for the "Deals" parts but I'm glad they did it this way. As for the open ending sometimes I hate, sometimes I love it but it was well wrapped up with enough questions for a second season. And don't say "about what should season 2 be then??" use your freaking brain for once and you would easily find hundreds of things they can do for s2. Every anime can have a continuation and Clannad After Story is the proof that it can be done (regardless if you liked it or not)

I only hope this was popular enough in Japan so the producers will go for a 2nd season. Everything was wonderful, the music, the story, the characters, everything fell really well in place so a big 10/10 for me, that is if I actually rated my animes :3


 
12-06-11, 10:36 PM

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C = Intense Pokemon (I'm serious)

Overall, I thought the Anime was fairly good. Would have been better if my stream didn't fuck up so many times, but w/e, I was able to complete it! The ending was so bittersweet but at least they KISSED!!! WOOT WOOT! 7.0/10 for me~ :D
 
12-12-11, 2:33 PM

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Might seem like Kimimaro ended up with nothing but as Msyu is his future daughter. it's actually happy end. And i bet he's gonna marry Hanabi , haha
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12-12-11, 10:44 PM

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The ending was beautiful. 9 (out of 10) for the episode, 8 for the series. It's not like there was anything wrong with the series, it's just that it needs to be godly for it to get a 9 or 10 on my scale. And I disagree about a sequel being a good idea. I mean, yeah, you guys can call it an "open ending" all you want, but the questions left unanswered weren't really all that important and certainly not worth ruining all of the hard-earned resolution that this season achieved. This is definitely a time where it's better just to leave it alone. Besides, I want the director to go direct something else, because he seems talented enough to make something even better than this show.
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12-15-11, 5:39 PM

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I've gotta say 5 things

- I think Hanabi is alive. Where? I don't know, but the city became alive again after the light, why couldn't she go back to being her old self when she saw the light too.

-What happened to Jennifer? She looked like a crazy person sat in the stairs o.O

-As long as money exists, there is going to be a Financial District.

- Those who died can't have their present/future back. So, the professor and his family were lost in this "war".

- Kimimaro certainly looked like a ghost, but I have problems believing he lost his present/future at the end of the battle, besides, Msyu was his daughter, and she disappeared not because Kimimaro no longer had a future but because the FD was being "destroyed" and she had no reason for existing and fighting anymore.

-The cool guy (can't remember his name now) chose not to live in the new future Kimimaro gave Japan, so he must be frozen in his present time inside the FD.

As Wikipeadia says: Kimimaro returns to reality to find that US dollar has become Japan's official currency, and everyone's futures have been returned to them.

This anime started good, but the last 3 episodes and that rather confusing finale made me give it a 5/10.
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12-28-11, 9:09 AM

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loved it glad it might get a second season! this anime was sooo smart!
 
01-01-12, 11:19 AM

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Alright, I'm trying to understand the concept. Basicaly Midas money was the value behind yen, and the cool dude was trying to inflate midas money to correspond with the inflation of the yen (that was needed to battle the C) - so that no actual devaluation would occur. While the main hero wanted to destroy Midas money, thus destroying all value of yen and killing the currency. Which he did. Sooo... he's an asshole? What was the point and what did he expect to see in the real world? Communism?
In the end the hero made Japan dependent on USA (why in the world?), thus totally ruining the country's future. What_did_I_just_watch.jpg
 
01-05-12, 12:24 AM

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Alright, I'm trying to understand the concept.[... ...] What_did_I_just_watch.jpg
Don't think too much about it. Seriously, this show's accuracy on finance is about as right as Jurassic Park is about paleontology.

As I have been ranting in my previous posts, this show is full of flaws so there.
 
01-09-12, 10:03 PM

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Might seem like Kimimaro ended up with nothing but as Msyu is his future daughter. it's actually happy end. And i bet he's gonna marry Hanabi , haha


THAT , would be incest , coz they kissed =x omg
 
02-25-12, 7:41 PM

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Well Mysu is Yoga's future. Even with the hints of her being his daughter there is also another possibility. That possibility is that he saw the birth of Msyu, his future wife. Then again that's just a floating speculation. His unrequited love for Hanabi makes her a candidate but she probably whoring it up with her boyfriend since Yoga returned everyone's future. I mean we weren't told of what happened between them. She just jumps straight to her dream as a teach-student thingy. Either way the ending both sucked and was satisfying. The hero is glorified like the typical anime. It reminds me of the ending of Gurren Lagann where Simon ventures of alone except only known a hero to some people. Great anime along with its subliminal messages and at such short series...way too short. Make an OVA please.
 
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03-17-12, 10:37 PM

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i can't tell if the ending was terribly rushed or fantastically complex.
either they just plain failed to express the ending at all, or like a well written poem, confuses yet enlighten and intrigues the reader.

for me at first, i had no idea wut in hell just happened. second time still, wtf. third time i got hints, but was wondering if those just came from my confusion trying to understand it or it really was deep.

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03-19-12, 11:34 PM

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I'll comment after sleeping for a while...

This anime was surprisingly addictive!
 
03-26-12, 11:50 AM

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If someone can answer this please do.

I read over Msyu's Bio on MAL and apparently she is Kimimaro's future daughter.

Who got this information and where in the anime does it represent so?

If you refer future as your child then at this point Kimimaro's future could be a girl by his side.

Please could someone give me evidence with reference!
 
03-30-12, 2:19 PM

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If someone can answer this please do.

I read over Msyu's Bio on MAL and apparently she is Kimimaro's future daughter.

Who got this information and where in the anime does it represent so?

If you refer future as your child then at this point Kimimaro's future could be a girl by his side.

Please could someone give me evidence with reference!


They say indeed. In one episode (don't remember which one) Kimimaro dreams about his future, and there he sees a newborn baby, and you can hear something like "We'll name her Msyu".

Overall I liked the series, but I felt most plot-relevant issues were not as developed as they could've been. All the things about Midas money, including the fact that it was black (corrupt money?), the real effects of the interaction Entre-Asset, the whole elected-for-the-district thingy, and also why the heck can Kimimaro fight all that well when they nearly didn't explain him sh*t about it?

Nevertheless, good series.
 
04-07-12, 8:50 AM

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Not bad for 11 episode. Will miss this.
 
05-02-12, 4:43 PM

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i can't tell if the ending was terribly rushed or fantastically complex.
either they just plain failed to express the ending at all, or like a well written poem, confuses yet enlighten and intrigues the reader.


You read my mind lol.
I gotta say, this show had quite a great story/plot to it.
Id give the show as a whole a 9/10. Would of gave it a 10 if they made 1 more episode, just to see some explanations and what exactly happened

I don't understand why he just wouldn't go back to the financial district at the end, he would get back Mashu, not to mention he has no life now from what I saw, no one remembers him, and everything is new to him. I mean, that Hanabi girl didnt even know him, so I seriously doubt he has any family or relatives... or friends for that matter, lol. In other words... HE HAS NOTHING

Either way, gotta say, they set the ending up perfectly for a season 2...
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06-03-12, 5:15 PM

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I was pretty happy with the ending. I personally don't want a full season 2. It's nice as is. To show what happened in the future, a nice OVA would sum that up nicely, or they can leave it up to us I suppose.

About YogaxMsyu.. I really hope she doesn't end up really being his daughter, but I dunno.

I am confused about his father's asset. Why did she look like Msyu? I don't think they ever cleared that up.

In any case, I was pretty touched by it all, there was a life lesson in there somewhere. The future is a gamble, but it's worth taking your chances y'know?
 
09-29-12, 9:55 PM

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The ending was a little unsatisfying but overall I loved the series! Maybe season 2?

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10-31-12, 11:18 AM

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Considering this show is about economics, I would have liked it to have more of that in the show instead of just inflating the word inflation (pun intended).
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11-09-12, 6:03 AM

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Damn such a great ending of this awesome Anime, the battle and the final conclusion really made it into one awesome Anime! I really enjoyed this one and didn't saw one of this quality for a good time now, so I really enjoyed this short but epic Anime!

The story development between the main characters is just to great especially with the ending that they kissed that makes a relationship in an anime perfect!

Really great job of the writers to get it to this point! A great ending of this amazing anime 9/10
 
12-12-12, 11:47 PM

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polonius said:
Lontaku said:
If someone can answer this please do.

I read over Msyu's Bio on MAL and apparently she is Kimimaro's future daughter.

Who got this information and where in the anime does it represent so?

If you refer future as your child then at this point Kimimaro's future could be a girl by his side.

Please could someone give me evidence with reference!


They say indeed. In one episode (don't remember which one) Kimimaro dreams about his future, and there he sees a newborn baby, and you can hear something like "We'll name her Msyu".

Overall I liked the series, but I felt most plot-relevant issues were not as developed as they could've been. All the things about Midas money, including the fact that it was black (corrupt money?), the real effects of the interaction Entre-Asset, the whole elected-for-the-district thingy, and also why the heck can Kimimaro fight all that well when they nearly didn't explain him sh*t about it?

Nevertheless, good series.


See but that really bugged and confused the hell out of me. In her asset form they fell in love, and in the future she could be his daughter? Seriously? Why do a love interest then turn around and go "OH!! Btw - she may be your future daughter." I know a lot of anime fans, creators, etc love incest but couldn't they leave it out of this series? This isn't an ecchi series. Kissxsis et all is fine. But here it just didn't fit.

She should have been his future lover in the real world. But I guess its because she has to be born first because she's not a human. Therefore they had to go with that.

So I guess I'll be happy with a "reincarnation theory." The future mashu will simply be a reincarnation with no ties to her previous asset existence. But still...I couldn't look my child in the face or even accept it knowing we had a thing before she was brought to the human world.

I still think they could have found some way to explain her being brought to the human world and continuing their relationship in it's current form tho. Call it a reward from that divine being or payment from the district, change in future due to his actions,etc. She would become human and they would meet down the line and start things up again.

Whatever...I'm rambling need sleep lol.
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12-19-12, 2:37 AM

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This cannot be the ending...there has to be a season 2!? Or at least a few OVAs?
 
01-09-13, 12:32 PM

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This cannot be the ending...there has to be a season 2!? Or at least a few OVAs?


I would prefer movie (gekijouban) rather than 2 nd season
 
01-10-13, 3:34 PM

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Here I try to tackle the symbols in the final episode of C, as well as the philosophy of hope evoked by Kimimaro. It was a good run.



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01-12-13, 12:59 PM

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Magnificent series. I loved the kiss. We've all been waiting for. But I was very disappointed when I saw the end. It was very difficult for me and I still can not understand a lot.Where did he get in? He lost all the people he knew? No love, no friends or relatives? This is impossible! I do not want to believe it. I want to see the love Msyu and Kimimaro.
I want him to meet with her again, and they were together, it would be the perfect ending. It seems to me that they wanted to release OVA or something. But sales were very small ...
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01-20-13, 11:11 PM

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I'm just shooting this out there. From watching everything and trying to put things together, I feel like Jennifer Satou is actually Kimimaro's future wife. The woman that was in the bed was blonde when he had the dream. Also when Satou talked to Takedazaki he gave off the impression like he felt there was a relationship between them in the future. Assuming Msyu is still going to be the daughter in the future. Also Satou and Msyu have a strong passion for eating a lot of food.

Definitely leaves you thinking quite a bit. I strongly don't believe he was a ghost, he just felt lost and had to take a lot of things in when he returned.
 
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how in this great fucking world is he supposed to make little msyu if he cant interact with real people? GHOST RAPE?!?!? seriously im suprised it hasnt been discussed more someone please respond this is gonna keep me awake tonight.
 
02-19-13, 7:09 PM

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I cried so very much at the end of this anime there was nothing that i wanted more than for him to have a nice happy ending with msyu.
 
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04-08-13, 8:55 AM

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Think about it this way guys... Think of the Occupy movements and how the 1% screws everyone else over and there is nothing you can do about it because you are of "lower" class. It just shows the never ending recessions and highs of the economy. Even if you think everything is all fine and dandy (I.E. The Roaring Twenties: Everyone rich) there's always a loop that bites you back in the butt ( I.E. The Great Depression). It just shows the never ending loop of the economy and how we can never be safe as long as there isn't an unlimited supply of resources which is undoubtedly impossible.

The show reflected this with the ending because even though he tried to change everything, he can't change the system. Specifically the organizations who rule and can bend everyones' standard of living with the push of a button.

Anyway great anime loved the ideas 10/10
 
06-02-13, 6:45 AM
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It was good, but it lacked in a lot of parts. Mainly skipping fighting scenes, ending an episode on a fight to come and then never seeing it again. I liked the premises of the show and ending was sweet<3. 7/10.
 
06-05-13, 12:58 AM

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Me no like the ending! Since they kissed I assumed mashu was gonna be his future wife. So I was expecting them to meet at the end. That would have been awesome ;( whyyyy didn't they do that?!
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+Interesting plot
+Pretty good use of CGI
+Battles were pretty cool
+/-The characters
-The last few episodes just weren't as good (the plot could of be executed better)
-The ending

I really want to give this a 7.5/10. I really don't know which way to good with it. 8 seems too high, but 7 seems too low.
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Me no like the ending! Since they kissed I assumed mashu was gonna be his future wife. So I was expecting them to meet at the end. That would have been awesome ;( whyyyy didn't they do that?!

I expected this to happen, but that ending...so depressing.
 
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I'm not sure why there are so many positive ratings... O_o My final score: 5/10

Wayy too rushed for 11 episodes. Could have omitted some information. The plot was all over the place. Honestly, they tried to put too much complicated unnecessary information into it, when it would have succeeded without it. Characters are all bland in general, even the "villain". What else can I say? Pretentious, unfocused, badly directed/executed. Had an interesting premise and potential to do better. Poorly written "romance" and relationship development. Mindless action on the most part. Deus ex machina and asspulls, even more than SAO.
 
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Why the hell is this rated so low? The Fuck. This show deserves a higher score than what's people are expecting it to be. I mean. It's entertaining as hell. People Nowadays =.= It's just so unbelievable that other crap shows are rated higher than this mediocre-to-good tv series.

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I'm not sure why there are so many positive ratings... O_o My final score: 5/10


Because it's good and mediocre. It doesn't need to step onto the lines of 6 or 5. Well, you know, it's hard to pull off an original show without any source material or whatsoever leaving them a blank sheet of script and etc but they did well so i guess rather than criticizing it, better appreciate the show for what it has offered.
 
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enjoyed this series to the fullest loved the concept of money, time and space. ending was a bit sad, yet half satisfying half wanting more. I really hope an OVA pops up along the way cause this series needs one! Still kinda like what happened here...




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08-16-13, 10:54 PM

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This is one of those endings that just leave me mindfucked as I wonder what the heck just happened in the last few episodes. I still don't know what the [C] chain reaction is.
 
08-19-13, 8:49 AM

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Masakaki's speach at the very end was cool. He's still my favorite character.
 
08-27-13, 4:45 AM

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;_; I lost it at "I should have smiled"
 
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Why the hell is this rated so low? The Fuck.

Because it's good and mediocre. It doesn't need to step onto the lines of 6 or 5. Well, you know, it's hard to pull off an original show without any source material or whatsoever leaving them a blank sheet of script and etc but they did well so i guess rather than criticizing it, better appreciate the show for what it has offered.

Firstly, 7.53 is not low. The first two ratings on the page are 8/10s which is what you rated it as. However, I'm sure there are plenty of critisizers (and elitists) who are the reason why the average rating isn't above 8. They recognize shit when they see it.

Secondly, mediocre is along the lines of 5, at least according to MAL. Good doesn't equal mediocre. Good = 7/10. I found the writing horrible and the characters boring as hell. The plot made no sense and still doesn't. It was a mess to watch. I did not find it bearable to watch either. Sorry, if you're not like me and just want to watch some action crap. I don't care if it was an original story or not. There are plenty of original anime series that were done better than this.
 
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