plot hole

Kelvets said:
I don't know why I'm answering this since it's been 5 months and you're probably not going to see...

But well, I noticed the same thing as well. She only goes back to the present in the first time. Maybe it's a glitch with the time leaping device? xD

Deago said:
A more obvious plothole is how came Makoto still retains her memories after Chiaki used his last charge to go back in time in order to save Kousuke and Kaho from the accident, while the same thing doesn't seem to apply to Chiaki? as you see him near the end not recalling anything about revealing himself to Makoto. -unless he was actually pretending not remembering or Makoto has an ability to retain her memory no matter a leap through time has occured-.

Deago said:
A more obvious plothole is how came Makoto still retains her memories after Chiaki used his last charge to go back in time in order to save Kousuke and Kaho from the accident, while the same thing doesn't seem to apply to Chiaki? as you see him near the end not recalling anything about revealing himself to Makoto. -unless he was actually pretending not remembering or Makoto has an ability to retain her memory no matter a leap through time has occured-.

Sheklon said:

Apparently they both retained their memories as long as they were the ones who time leaped. Since Chiaki leaped last and told her what happened AFTER his last leap, she knew what happened and was able to leap again herself, retaining those memories, making it so that now SHE had the last leap, and he couldn't know about it until she told him.

Deago said:


I am afraid you're wrong sir



tldr:
The fact that Makoto knows about the accident just after the time leap -used by Chiaki- proves that she retained her memories.

Sheklon said:

Yes, I was thinking about this right after I typed my other comment. However, this could also be explained as Makoto was already going to the train passage with the objective of saving Kousuke. She doesn't necessarily remembers the accident happening itself, only that she was running to avoid it from happening.

Deago said:


Chiaki leapt back in time way way before Kousuke messeged Makoto about borrowing her bike, so no.

Sheklon said:

True, that was my mistake then. You're right. So that was actually a plot hole, it seems the writers purposefully used arbitrary rules regarding their leaps.

Sheklon said:

True, that was my mistake then. You're right. So that was actually a plot hole, it seems the writers purposefully used arbitrary rules regarding their leaps.

Asphalt_in_Rain said:


Not necessarily. Don't forget that Chiakis time jump is way different to Makotos. Chiaki is able to freeze time and have a discussion with Makoto - that to me implies there's various ways of using the device, and Chiaki knows it well enough to use it in a way to let Makoto remember - which he does. And it makes sense, since he's from the time where the devices came from.

When Makoto uses it, she only knows "leap = time travel"

Sheklon said:

I mean, I can't argue with that. The one problem that still remains, though, is exposition. We're never given insight on how these devices can work, so characters could come up with anything time related by using them, as far as we know.

Asphalt_in_Rain said:


I suppose it's because the film isn't necessarily about time travel, it's about coming of age.

Honestly, the bigger question I tend to have it... What happens to Makotos body when she time leaps. We don't see older versions of herself, so it seems to imply that she's travelling into a previous version of herself, but when she time leaps at the river, one of the kids say she disappeared for a moment.

Plus, what happens to the present day version of her? Cause she can jump towards in time... Does she just... Not exist?

I think the time travel elements weren't really suppose to be discected in this way. It's no steins;gate

Deago said:
A more obvious plothole is how came Makoto still retains her memories after Chiaki used his last charge to go back in time in order to save Kousuke and Kaho from the accident, while the same thing doesn't seem to apply to Chiaki? as you see him near the end not recalling anything about revealing himself to Makoto. -unless he was actually pretending not remembering or Makoto has an ability to retain her memory no matter a leap through time has occured-.