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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I still wonder what role will Karl play, or if he's role is now over. Also, did Johan said to Schuwald who is real son was, just so he could get closer to Schuwald (so maybe he could gain acess to his fortune, or his power)? |
| I wonder what Johan is up to. |
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| cool. i can guess what will happen but still some uncertainty. doesn't happen a lot :) |
| I love the fact that through the past few episodes we're getting a scoop on how Johan finds ways to manipulate people. |
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| I can't help but feel this is another sick game by Johan to learn further of the human psyche...can't wait to see what he does. |
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| Its a long time since i saw monster, i picked up a few eps earlyer so I need to freshen up a bit. Johan reminds me of Light, lol. |
| Is it just me, or does Johanns expression near the end of this ep. seem different than his appearances recently? More like when he first appeared. |
| I am starting to get it. Johan's plan that is. His plan was to get close to Mr. Schuwald. And now he is his secretary. There is probably some information Johan seeks, like I have mentioned before. It is also now clear that Johan eliminated Edmund to achieve this goal. It was not according to his plan that Edmund was a deceiver. To earn Mr. Schuwald's trust, he needed to do something truly emotional. And giving him a fake son would not be good enough. But then again, we have some proof of Johan's experiments with human psychology. It might seem this is another one. However, this particular case is too easy for Johan. When he was 15, he was observing psychology of mass groups in occurrences of greed and power. A love between a son and his father is too simplistic for a genius like Johan. We also seem to have a parallel. The private investigator and Karl. Their situations were the same, only opposite. Karl was away from his father, and he was afraid to tell the truth to Mr. Schuwald. While Detective's daughter is afraid of his ex-drunk father. Since Karl finally reunited it makes me think we will also see a happy ending for the detective too. |
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| Oh god, now I get it. I agree with the person above me. |
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| Yup things are finally starting to make sense |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| johans a legend! |
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| Everything is piecing together. :3 |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| It was interesting to see Johan at the end. |
| interesting ending |
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| At first I thought that Johan is going to steal the rabbit foot and pretend to be the real son, but it seems he got other plans. And was I the only one that nearly cried when Karl and Schuvald met in the end of the ep? It was very emotional, but Johan's face ... that was weird and kinda frightening :S |
| I really thought Johann would take the proof that Karl was the son and then use it to claim that he was Schuberts son... but this is actually more creepy, what the heck is Johann planning? |
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Outlander said: And was I the only one that nearly cried when Karl and Schuvald met in the end of the ep? It was very emotional, but Johan's face ... that was weird and kinda frightening :S Same here. That father son moment was touching. And yes, Johan creeped me out in that last scene. Like someone said above, he had that same creepy face he had when he first appeared. |
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| Touching episode karl and his dad :) About Episode: Seems like Richard has some trauma for that case and that's why he cannot drink alcohol also that's why her girlfriend don't want to see him because Richard did wrong thing in that case. So woman don't want to let his meet this Rosemary girl. First I thought Johan was trying to destroy those evidents that Karl is Schuwald's son but indeed he wanted to Shuwald to accept him and now that Shuwald is going to recruit him as secretory there is change Johan is looking something maybe relate to his Monster problem. Really nice episode 5/5 |
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| Well Johan doesn't get close to anyone without a reason. Somebody is going to die soon lol. |
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| I've just finished episode 27. Holy crap, Johan is such a cold, calculative and manipulative person. It gave me chills! I'm quickly moving on to the next episode. |
| Cherish what you know is true |
| Touching episode. Almost cried at the end.. I've never been afraid of a fictional character.. But Johann is some scary motherf*cker.. Liked the episode. 4/5 |
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| Just when father and sun where having a happy reunion the atmosphere changed when Johan enters the room. And the ''alcohol is my enemy'' part was nice. I wonder what is Johan planing to do next. |
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| ^Post above is so right. There was a beautiful, heart-wrenching scene but the second Johann stepped in that feeling was sucked straight out of the room. He's just so EVIL. |
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| Damn it, almost made me cry. Overall, great episode. |
| I feel like they're all stuck in Johan's web. This episode was beautiful and uneasy as well. I share the previous comentors' opinions. Johan needs therapy. He's manipulative, a sociopath and is ruining lives. Howver I can't help but enjoy watching him wreak havoc. |
| I am apart from everything and a part of everything. Frozen Fire, Tim Bowler |
| wow what a episode! we see the detective despite acting all good towards his counselor and his ex-wife he still have some problems towards alcohol! i do think he did drink it and now his hallucinations are getting worse and worse! i do have to wonder how his foster parents will act despite telling them earlier that Karl wanted to become their son. man that scene at the end T__T finally Schuberg knows! and wow Johan is such a calculative bastard, probably went close so that he could get all the money he needs for his soon to be army. shame Frank Lotte didn't appear here :( also no Tenma or Nina Fortner? then again it's been awhile since we have a Johan episode ^^ next episode!!! |
| Shits going down. |
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| Johan didn't look happy in the ending. what's the deal with the thunder? that scared me so much |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| I really like these couple of episodes revolving around Karl and his father. Their story was touching. That end shot of Johan was creepy. Makes you wonder what is he planning. |
| Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a problem. |
| Aha! So that's what Johan was planning! I wonder when Tenma will come in on this one... |
| "If you can eliminate all the other choices, the remaining choice, no matter how improbable, it is the answer."- Sherlock Holmes |
| lol I also thought Johan was going to kill Karl and claim the rabbit foot was his. Creepy stare at the end o__o; |
| My eyes got teary when Karl's voice started to tremble. It was a little sad to see him reunite with his father because of Johan's manipulation. |
| I agree that Johan likely (nay, certainly) has an ulterior motive, but the real question is what said motive is. Shubert and Karl are indebted to him now, so he may be planning on taking advantage of this. It's also possible that Johan seeks information or fortune through being Shubert's secretary. Just think: He would be handling all of the legal documents, including financial ones, for Mr. Shubert. I'm curious to see how the detective will fit into this, as I too noticed the parallel Algirdyz mentioned on the previous page. However, I'm not so certain things will turn out as well for him; I hope he doesn't cave in and drink again, at least. Has anyone else noticed we've been in Munich this whole time? Where did Tenma's last lead point to? ;) |
| I was so perplexed as to why Johan helped Karl. Then, I saw him at the door, give me chills. |
| Ok so why does Johan wanna get close to Mr Schuwald? I doubt it's because of money. This is getting more and more exciting. |
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| That last scene with the father and the son made my eyes water. ; _ ; Johan looked terrifying as fuck holy shit... This anime has been getting so good now that we have finally begun to see what Johan is capable of. Awesome episode 9/10 |
| I thought this episode was horribly slow, but man any episode with Johan give me shivers! I keep thinking someone will die right now when ever he appears. I really can't understand his motives here, I am sort of sure he is not all nice because he is nice, he is still monster! So maybe he has some benefit from the rejoining of the father and son. |
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Algirdyz said: I am starting to get it. Johan's plan that is. His plan was to get close to Mr. Schuwald. And now he is his secretary. There is probably some information Johan seeks, like I have mentioned before. It is also now clear that Johan eliminated Edmund to achieve this goal. It was not according to his plan that Edmund was a deceiver. To earn Mr. Schuwald's trust, he needed to do something truly emotional. And giving him a fake son would not be good enough. But then again, we have some proof of Johan's experiments with human psychology. It might seem this is another one. However, this particular case is too easy for Johan. When he was 15, he was observing psychology of mass groups in occurrences of greed and power. A love between a son and his father is too simplistic for a genius like Johan. We also seem to have a parallel. The private investigator and Karl. Their situations were the same, only opposite. Karl was away from his father, and he was afraid to tell the truth to Mr. Schuwald. While Detective's daughter is afraid of his ex-drunk father. Since Karl finally reunited it makes me think we will also see a happy ending for the detective too. Although your comments are 5 years old, I always enjoy them and feel they make sense. |
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| I know I'm not the only one who thought old boy was gunna revert back to drinking. & I think I know Johan's secret...he's a trap queen. The original trap queen. Poor guy couldn't see his baby girl... & that icy cold stare Johan gave at the end. After Karl reunited w his father, I was like. "Oh well. Too bad one of you have to die, now." I was literally expecting the dad to get stabbed or shot in the back of the head/neck. --------------------------- kokuro said: I love the fact that through the past few episodes we're getting a scoop on how Johan finds ways to manipulate people. Ikr. I am totally for this. ownosourus said: Well Johan doesn't get close to anyone without a reason. Somebody is going to die soon lol. ikr! Lol. *waits for the gore, grabs popcorn* SpookyWasabi said: ^Post above is so right. There was a beautiful, heart-wrenching scene but the second Johann stepped in that feeling was sucked straight out of the room. He's just so EVIL. I love your comment & I love your Paranoia Agent signature. OriginANIME said: Shits going down. I'M YELLIN TIMBERRRRRRR. Kurini said: I was so perplexed as to why Johan helped Karl. Then, I saw him at the door, give me chills. You commented this on my birthday <3 |
NiariMoonJun 15, 2015 4:30 PM
| Sweet episode. 5/5 |
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| The last scene with Johan was awesome. His look truly was monster like |
| That little reunion was nice. Very curious with what Johan is up to. |
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| I guess Johan's manipulating Karl to kill his father? Don't know how he would achieve that, though. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| Nice reunion scene. Certainly, Johan is up to some plan. I thought he would pretend to be Schuwald's son to get his fortune. But this series always surprises me. What is the real extent of his plan? |
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