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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Was kind of surpring, at least to me, that it was Johan who killed everyone at that house (I was expecting someone else, like an internal rebellion, or something like that). And I was also surprised so see that Wolfe, also wanted Johan dead. Can't wait to see what'll happen next :D |
| monster has the best plot twists in teh biz |
| Kind of figured Johan would've killed them. Obv. he has no prejudices in killing people since he talks to Tenma like he doesn't care. This is awesome. I'm gonna stop leaving these stupid comments now. |
| Lol at Dieter in the bar. This episode was the bomb, a huge cliffhanger and its already so late here I have to go to bed. Nice developments in this episode though. |
| Awesome plot developments - can't wait for more ^_^ |
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| Tenma was right, when saying that Johan hates all humanity. Therefore, I suspected that he will kill everyone in the house. The thing I did not expect was that Wolfe is against Johan. Now that you think of it, it makes sense. In some episode, Anna said that all the people that took care of the twins were eventually dead, and that Johan ONLY his sister. Later we find out, that Johan is also attached to people who saved his life. That includes Tenma and Wolfe. That is the only reason why they both are still alive. Both of them understood who Johan is and is now going against him. One think troubles my mind though. We know that Johan wants to meet up with his sister. Why didn't he already do it? He had an opportunity. While Johan was killing everyone in the house, Anna was there too. He must have a motive for that. Few comes to my mind. First of all, he could be afraid of Anna killing him. We know that she is as smart as Johan, and knows martial arts. Another one would be that he is not afraid of her killing him, but is worried that she will neglect him. Hate him. Therefore, Johan is trying to pull of some plan to make Anna join him. Second one seems more probable, since we know that Johan asked Anna to shoot him in the head when they were staying at Lieberts. The last fact I mentioned still troubles me as I have written in a post few episodes back. P.S. Sry for a long comment after each episode. I just have to unleash my thoughts somewhere. I think its better than writing stuff like: Awesome ep! Very good ep, nice development. Tenma is gonna kick ass! |
AlgirdyzJan 22, 2010 11:33 AM
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| Go Mamiko Noto, go! Run around the mansion and find dead people. <3 |
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| Fantastic suspenseful episode. May have had the highest body count of the series, so far for the record. And, I had a feeling it was Johann who killed the residence of the mansion. I imagine he did it to save Anna, though it is kind of odd he didn't try to take her with him. Best line of the episode, when Wolf mentions how his partners want to make Johann into another Hitler he says, " I think it's Stupid." Echoed my thoughts exactly. |
Ston3_FreeN7Jan 25, 2017 2:04 AM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| wolf even wants him dead wow |
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| wow, so it was johan who killed everyone, feel sorry for that turkish woman but oh well, those who die, die... Oh and that theif guys a prick, taking advantage of the blaze. |
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| Poor Aysa. :( |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Lol that thief dude really wouldn't give up on the rug. |
| I would think that their would be something more expensive than a rug in an entire district of a town... Anyways this anime has gotten intense, its really bad too cause I've got studying to do but instead my mouse just clicks next episode... |
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| The instrumental of the ED makes it even more creepy. |
| So Intense episode Wolfe is good guy O_O About Episode: It was nice to see that Dieter didn't need to be alone. And that Turkish woman keep company for him. The Baby again punching with that stick Tenma he must really like punching people lol. Also when Tenma said Johan don't trust humans and don't want to be in any organizations his basically right in this. That bar scene with Dieter was just EPICNESS! under age kid drinks smartini haha those guys where totally amazed by him. Until he threw everything up. So good scene. I am not sure who that man was behind Dieter I first thought it could be Johan but naah I believe it's one of the organization guys. Too bad Ayase couldn't escape in a time. Man I really hope Nina is going ro vengeance her. Haha best part was that The Baby was so suprised that own organization turned against him. definitely great part. Johan doing his evil deeds again this time whole organization how he does those things he got to be some kind of supernatural powers. Tenma in that car pretty nicely he hold that other guy. Dieter run to tell Calwin Wayne evertyhing I mean that Turkish town. Wolfe definitely seemed really old. Older than in that picture Tenma saw in Hartmann's house. So Johan leaved another message not that I wouldn't have guessed this. I wait for you in Romberg abandoned warehouse Interesting message. Haha Otto were holding Dieter and some tough guys came there. I wonder what now happen haha. So Wolfe also has same goal like Tenma this is getting really interesting. What Nina saw really on that warehouse. Maybe Johan wasn't there and that was just trap. Awesome episode 5/5 |
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| So that Wolf guy actually wants to kill Johan too.I wonder what will happen next. |
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| Good episode, not into this as much as others |
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| wow this is getting intense as hell!! glad the turkish lady feed Dieter :P i think that bastard asshole that gave the fruits to Nina was the one that killed Aysa :( lol Dieter walked into a bard, drank a tequilla and went off like a boss XD then he suddenly pukes! poor Aysa being killed :( glad that punk ass bitch Baby's henchman got killed in the spot, should have killed Baby as well while your at it. we finally see Wolf! so Wolf didn't wanted Johan to become hitler, then what did he want from he? just saving his life and nothing more? just like Tenma i already can tell the last scene with Nina, she either sees blood on the wall or a person hanging(probably the former) getting intense! can't wait for more of this!!!! |
| That scene when baby henchman was killed, kinda resembled that one scene on "box cutter" when gus kills one of his own . this is awesome. lovin every second of it |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| Last two episode were awesome, I couldn't even stop to leave a comment for 15 XD So Wolf guy wants Johan to dead, didn't expect that and poor Aysa :( |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
| Easily one of the best episodes - that plot twist. |
| Nice episode but did it really had to end on a cliffhanger like that ;_;? |
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| This episode proves that Johan really is a monster. Killing off all those people in that mansion without Nina even being aware. Fucking hate Rat-face. All he cares about is getting money even if it means a whole district dying in a fire. Glad he got beat up by those guys. That cliffhanger. Listening to that Turkish woman die through the drain was horrifying. When Wolf wants Johan dead, you know this man is capable of doing some scary shit. Awesome episode. Onto the next one! 9/10 |
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KarinaraMar 29, 2022 1:11 PM
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| Interesting general Wolf wants Johan dead too |
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| 5/5 |
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| Wolf was different than what I expected. |
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| shiiii~ General Wolf giving the go ahead and his blessings to Tenma to kill Johan lol Mod Edit: Removed quote of edited post. |
KarinaraMar 29, 2022 1:13 PM
| So Wolf wants Johan dead!! Sure didn't expect that.. Maybe it's a huge scam to get Tenma to Johan? It's pretty obvious that Tenma won't get Johan this time. I wonder what will happen with Nina and what Johan's intentions are. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to kill her, but does he respect her or will he take her by force?? Anyway I WANT TO SEE JOHAN ! p.s.: Dieter in the bar LOL |
markay23Dec 22, 2015 3:30 AM
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| Too bad that Aysa was killed. Wolf had all his family, friends and henchmen killed by Johan, I felt bad when he said it. |
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| "You will know how I feel", has to be the actual best line of the episode past me. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Hmm... so Johan is the anti-Christ? Unless he was triggered by some event in his past I will go with this theory meaning that he was born a Monster and not created... Wolf revelation surprised me... he wants him dead but it is because he killed all of her family & friends because he turned into a beast he cannot tame...? So sad for the Turkish woman... I hope nothing bad happens to Anna. |
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Algirdyz said: Tenma was right, when saying that Johan hates all humanity. Therefore, I suspected that he will kill everyone in the house. The thing I did not expect was that Wolfe is against Johan. Now that you think of it, it makes sense. In some episode, Anna said that all the people that took care of the twins were eventually dead, and that Johan ONLY his sister. Later we find out, that Johan is also attached to people who saved his life. That includes Tenma and Wolfe. That is the only reason why they both are still alive. Both of them understood who Johan is and is now going against him. One think troubles my mind though. We know that Johan wants to meet up with his sister. Why didn't he already do it? He had an opportunity. While Johan was killing everyone in the house, Anna was there too. He must have a motive for that. Few comes to my mind. First of all, he could be afraid of Anna killing him. We know that she is as smart as Johan, and knows martial arts. Another one would be that he is not afraid of her killing him, but is worried that she will neglect him. Hate him. Therefore, Johan is trying to pull of some plan to make Anna join him. Second one seems more probable, since we know that Johan asked Anna to shoot him in the head when they were staying at Lieberts. The last fact I mentioned still troubles me as I have written in a post few episodes back. P.S. Sry for a long comment after each episode. I just have to unleash my thoughts somewhere. I think its better than writing stuff like: Awesome ep! Very good ep, nice development. Tenma is gonna kick ass! I thought she shot him in the head to save herself?? |
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| This has been a epic episode. We see more of Johan and Wolf, bringing back the past of Johan. And it is quite chilling to see that Johan already had signs of creepy tendencies in his childhood. Especially with his promise that Wolf would "know soon enough". And what happened to Wolf is quite terrifying. Everyone who knew him is dead. Also, Johan just killed every goon in the same building as Nina without making a sound. It is possible that not even Light Yagami will not stand a chance with him. |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| “hey mister, can’t you go any faster?” “im already going 200km/h” “your meters are broken” lol i find it very fitting that the con artist closely resembles the caricature of a rat. |
| Very interesting revelations. If Johan is really a monster beyond anything imaginable, then it kinda makes sense that Wolf also wants to see him dead. Too bad that Ayse had to die, hope they can save the district. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| "You will soon know how I feel." Well that's 1 way to answer someone who's been taking care of you. Seems Johan is worse than Hitler. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| Dr. Tenma is packin' heat, Anna is packin' heat... just nice characters you would expect to be the last people to have a gun in their hands. Even Wolfe wants Johan to die and asks Dr. Tenma (who wants to kill him) to do it |
| Who would say that Dieter is so badass. :P |
| Quite a surprise that Wolfe is against Johan as well, I really thought he’s Johan’s accomplice. Well that’s a good thing for Tenma. So Johan’s motive of killing is more broader than I imagined. Aside from killing those who took care of them, including those from the orphanage, he also kills Wolfe’s family and friends so Wolfe will be left alone? Wonder if Johan’s obsessed with Wolfe’s attention to do that. Or like what Tenma said, he hates humanity (something like that). |
| nina isn't thinking enough, she's doing things too fast and without too much thinking. i was sure that wolf gonna give tenma more info than "you gotta kill him"... |
| Another creepy yet awesome episode with great twists. Johan just casually killing everyone is so insane, he makes it look like too easy. Even Wolf knows that there are only certain people who could be given a task to kill Johan, one of them being Tenma. |
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