Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Kan Episode 11 Discussion

Animdev said:

"2 episodes to go"

A_G_N said:
I see, most of the Yuifags are in denial, calling the episode a mistake and such, and best girl Yui lost, I love the minorities denial, well, 80% of Yui fans are from anime, and still is lower than Yukino anime fans, and this is without counting the readers who are 90% Yukino fans. Man, I love when people are in denial so much!!!!

Veribal said:
The whole fake prom conversation was basically a reference of yukinon having 8man as a significant other, Since 8man doesn't have good future prospect just like the fake prom. 8man basically informed yukimom and yukinee that he wants to go out with yukinon, I'm glad that yukimom wasn't that much against it and let yukinon decide.

Yukinon- said:
7 years bros... I can finally die in peace.

Azri3l said:


Ouuuu how come I didn't notice that, the camera angles were realy similiar to it, but I think Monogatari has a lot more movement and change with their animation style. I did like that the animation was very different from other episodes, where the same angle was kept most of the time.

Omegeria said:


Thank you! Finally someone else talking about the production, I’m getting tired of all the LN nitpicking. The production and directive/sound design decisions from Feel. this season have been consistently awesome, and really help elevate the writing to something truly fantastic for me

Omegeria said:


Thank you! Finally someone else talking about the production, I’m getting tired of all the LN nitpicking. The production and directive/sound design decisions from Feel. this season have been consistently awesome, and really help elevate the writing to something truly fantastic for me

zeron824 said:
I can't even begin to type. This was by far THE MOST genuine episode yet. We'll go part by part cause I was freaking out the entire time with some sweat under my eyes. Maybe they were tears idk.

Hiratsuka knew exactly what was going on and that they were being antagonized by Haruno. She knew just how to get through to Hachiman and it was the needed advice to get him going and achieve what he truly wants, something real. Hachiman was talking about how he will END his youth. He ended it by growing up and admitting his true feelings to every single party involved. I think it's important to note that Hachiman sees the three of them as a "love triangle" too. There's an old saying where you shouldn't date within your circle because it can lead to complications. This anime proves that.

That last part leads into the Yui bench conversation. First of all, Hachiman straight up admitted to Yui that he wants to "stay associated with Yukino." That's as cold and hard as a truth can get to "reject" someone. HOWEVER, I found it really sweet and shocking, even Yui was surprised, when Hachiman said that Yui will not have to wait for the day where he can express his true feelings. I believe that was simply saying that he was already genuine with her and sees her as someone special to him, a friend. It hurts to hear that coming from someone you love, but Yui saw it coming and no amount of preparing will prepare you for that. I'm glad Gahamama is very comforting to her daughter. It was a bittersweet scene from start to finish. It's important to also note that Yui's wish was to have it all and when she explained it to Hachiman, "where you and Yukinon are, I want to be there too," she was already conceding the race to Yukino but was still wanting to be friends with them both. You can even see this in the part where she told Hachiman that his main issue is that he doesn't try to communicate when Hachiman was talking about not wanting to leave Yukino. Yui is helping out her best friend, Yukino, get the man that she loves. That is so bittersweet, but Yui is such a nice girl. She'll come across her happy ending too and they'll all still remain friends and she'll learn to move on.

The Iroha investigation scene was hilarious. I especially enjoyed that scene where Zaimokuza mocked Iroha and she "tch" them to the point they all got terrified lmao.

Then the whole "prom" debacle Hachiman was trying to achieve was another roundabout way to get him and Yukino together cause they both suck at socializing. I really love the fact that that scene was basically an informal "meet the family" scene and Yukimama is not an idiot. She knew EXACTLY what was going on, hence the stare that Yukino was waiting for. The stare of "this is your choice, see it through." That was a huge stepping stone for Yukino since it seems like Yukimama is finally acknowledging Yukino's achievements and choices. Even Haruno played Hachiman's game. "Do you really understand what it means to get involved in our family matters?" "I understand...If I can take responsibility for that stuff, too, then I intend to do that." Hachiman literally said "I am willing to be a part of your family." Yukino was surprised to hear that coming from Hachiman. I think everyone in that room understood what was going on, even Hiratsuka-sensei, except for Yukino, which leads us to the possibly iconic bridge scene.

Oh man. This scene was the culmination of all the events and situations, and heartbreaks that they all had. Hachiman finally admitting the truth and telling it how it is. First off, Hachiman roping Yukino's family was something neither of them expected and kinda scared both them equally lol. Anyways, Hachiman started to create his lead in about his feelings and Yukino got upset cause she thought he didn't upheld his part of the deal but Yui literally helped out EVERYONE. When Yui said she was selfish a few episodes back, goodness she is SELFLESS. Moving on, Yukino was saying that she can maintain a regular "friendship" even if Hachiman can't so Yukino STILL isn't being honest with herself. Hachiman called her out on her BS and she storms out. This is a SUPER important part because, as Hachiman later says, if he lets her go now, he will be lying to himself and he will never be a part of her ever. He will regret not saying what was inside his heart this whole time. (Honestly, this part resonates so well with me because I ended up in that situation where it is actually too late for me to express how I truly feel and that person and I ended up drifting apart. Hachiman took his shot than regret it for all his life. I gotta commend my boy for that!!) I love that Hachiman pursued after her and basically confessed his love for her in the only way that these two anti-social people can. "So allow me the privilege of distorting your life." Wow. The next time I confess to a girl, I will use that line. I will let you all know how it goes. From here on out, the conversation went to the "cliche" convo where the girl goes "but I'm this and that" and the guy says "I accept that and that makes you lovely" but of course with the Oregairu twist. I've been waiting for this so even if it's cliched, I love it. I also love the switch in the tenseness of the atmosphere where Yukino playfully punched Hachiman. I don't ever recall a scene where she playfully touched Hachiman and I knew this was a turning point. Yukino tried to squeeze a better confession out of Hachiman too but they both suck at socializing lol. But Yukino with the "please allow me to have your life" is as close to saying as be my boyfriend or stay by my side through thick and thin I guess lmao.

That was a long post cause I felt like this episode wrapped up so much that was built up and the tiny details in the episode was so well made. THE SOUNDTRACK FOR THIS SEASON IS SO DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS SEASONS and I love it!

TL;DR: Hiratsuka is the only adult involved with the trio that truly cares and knows about them (exception for Gahamama). Yui is actually very selfless because she wants to stay with them regardless if she's not chosen AND she actually helped push them to be together even if it's at the cost of her. Iroha is menacing but that's her charm; also don't mock her as Zaimokuza did. Yukino and Hachiman both suck at socializing and a confession is probably the worst thing they can do but leave it to them to say random things like "let me distort your life" and "let me have your life" to make it work. The soundtrack is amazing.

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Syureria said:
Yuigahama cried seeing this, lol.

NakolHira said:
Best confession of all time .

A confession without saying "I love you"
A confession with making a promise to stay together for lifelong .
A confession where they both crossed the line together.


I'm crying ,I can't explain how much I've waited for this moment to come !!!!


Hachiman and Yukino ,best luck for rest of your life ! Please continue to live for each other ,and have a better life !!!!

Primo_Itoko said:
Fullmetal Alchemist is that you?

TsukuyomiREKT said:


Pretty much no one in this thread is doing that, and you Yukino simps have been crying for like two months straight, but go off I guess.

civonad said:
Just because im being paranoid and anxious right now, the bridge scene was a confession of love between the two right? Hachiman and yukino were confessing their love to one another is that correct? and did they both understand that the other was confessing their love? Also are they dating or will they say I love you or kiss?

I really hope the whole scene wasnt a just hoping to be friends for the rest of our lives thing.

ToraiS said:
Definitely the highlight was the quirkily good confession scene.

But I don't know, for me this "climax" was a bit underwhelming. The entire prom arc where Yukino tries to be independent and tries to deflect her sister's accusation where they are codependent of each other, is thrown out: Yukino proved to her family that she's capable, but she is still insecure about her role when it comes to her friends, and now lover.

While the Hiratsuka scene is great, she spelled it out so much that there was no room for Hikigaya to have self-realization. In the past, her messages were always cryptic to the point that it only guides Hikigaya to an answer. But now, she plainly states the answer and it was a bullseye too. Compare to S2, after Hiratsuka's advice, Hikigaya couldn't sleep because he was busy thinking what to do before the "genuine" scene. That sense of self-realization and character development is missing.

There isn't a time where all three talked to each other honestly and made a compromise where all parties knew each other's motives. Most of the season comprised of the three talking behind each other's backs and made decisions for them without even them knowing. In that sense, their relationship as a club was thrown away too as if it was nothing. Which is bad since S1 and S2 built upon this relationship. It would have been interesting if they could have incorporated at least some of it before dismissing it as fake or codependent.

Don't get me wrong, I love this series to bits but aside from the confession scene, and the anime humanizing Yui's plight, the whole season has been lackluster, especially when compared to the more human conflicts of S2. The entire ordeal doesn't feel like a satisfying climax for me. It just feels like it's just an ending for the sake of having an ending.