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Feb 16, 2020 12:09 PM

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OH GOD, CGI Tiamat looks awful. CGI has been fine so far but she really stands out and feels out of place. Other than that, the episode was great!

Ishtar's NP was fucking awesome. It was so exciting to hear that "Gate Open" xD.

Eresh is love, Eresh is life <3. And the whole scene about Gugalanna was hilarious.
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Feb 16, 2020 1:07 PM

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Aure0lin said:
chapters that are gigantic enough to have their own self-contained stories and character arcs. gilgamesh also doesn't need much in salomon because he's not a pivotal character in that chapter. KH is in babylonia.

It's just an example, you know what I mean, it would have been just weird if KH had the same importance as Camelot.

if it makes you feel better to call me an anime-only because i don't fit your idea of an fgo player who has to love everything that happens in the story, then that's on you. you should at least admit you're doing a "no true scotsman" tho

Not really, since English isn't my main language my vocabulary can feel overwhelming sometimes. But you know, I can say the same thing about you with this statement.
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Feb 16, 2020 1:53 PM

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Vncriticalshit said:

It's just an example, you know what I mean, it would have been just weird if KH had the same importance as Camelot.
he had a role in camelot and the character to show for it. he had no characterization in babylonia yet still came in as one of the main players. it's not exactly a fair comparison


Not really, since English isn't my main language my vocabulary can feel overwhelming sometimes. But you know, I can say the same thing about you with this statement.
"no true scotsman" = "you're not a real 'x' if you don't do this." the no u doesn't really work if you're the only one doing it
'x' = a group of people
if you need me to explain other phrases in english, just remember to ask
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 16, 2020 2:56 PM

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Aure0lin said:
"no true scotsman" = "you're not a real 'x' if you don't do this." the no u doesn't really work if you're the only one doing it
'x' = a group of people
if you need me to explain other phrases in english, just remember to ask

Thanks sherlock, I wasn't talking about this statement thought. If it makes you feel better to talk about narrative structure to someone who's just trying to explain the lore behind some plot point then go ahead. But if you need some advice about reading comprehension, I guess you can ask me in private.

Regarding your "no true Scotsman", I wouldn't say you're not a "True Fate Fan" so pls don't get mad. But if we want to talk about FSN you definitely miss a lot if you didn't read the VN. Like always, adaptations just don't reflect the source material. But people need to stop feeling inferior because they didn't read or don't want to read the source material. Whether you like it or not the VN is the best way to experience FSN as a whole. Not to mention you still need to read HA to get all the answer FSN left behind. And the same goes for FGO, it's just plain stupid to want Babylonia to stand on its own and not relies on the previous chapters.
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Vncriticalshit said:
Aure0lin said:
"no true scotsman" = "you're not a real 'x' if you don't do this." the no u doesn't really work if you're the only one doing it
'x' = a group of people
if you need me to explain other phrases in english, just remember to ask

Thanks sherlock, I wasn't talking about this statement thought. If it makes you feel better to talk about narrative structure to someone who's just trying to explain the lore behind some plot point then go ahead. But if you need some advice about reading comprehension, I guess you can ask me in private.

Regarding your "no true Scotsman", I wouldn't say you're not a "true Fate fan" so pls don't get mad. But if we want to talk about FSN you definitely miss a lot if you didn't read the VN. Like always, adaptations just don't reflect the source material. But people need to stop feeling inferior because they didn't read or don't want to read the source material. Whether you like it or not the VN is the best way to experience FSN as a whole. Not to mention you still need to read HA to get all the answer FSN left behind. And the same goes for FGO.
in case you haven't already figured it out, i literally don't care about the lore. what i care about are the characters and the story elements. i'm also focusing more on how the writer introduces the lore, not the lore itself.

ill make this even simpler since it looks like my past two replies have flown right over your head. you seem to think that just because im complaining about certain elements about the story that i could not have read the original story in the game. maybe it doesn't count to you because i play the english server, but i did actually read the cutscenes and still felt irritated at the finale. people are not robots. i can read the same thing you read and have a different reaction.
Aure0linFeb 16, 2020 3:52 PM
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 16, 2020 3:52 PM

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I literally don't care about the lore.

Sad, the nasuverse is awesome. But if you don't care about the lore, there's no point in me talking to you anymore then. Still, it's kind of contradictory. If you're interested in how the writer introduces his lore then you should be able to understand it even if it's poor from a narrative perspective.

i could not have read the original story in the game.

video on youtube isn't an option.
Feb 16, 2020 3:55 PM

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Ishtar's NP animation was sick!
When she said GATE OPEN, I was like "YES!"

On the other hand, the CGI Tiamat makes me sad. They could've made something similar to what they did with Gorgon which I don't mind much. It just looks awkward with the 2D on the frame.

Lots of different Gil's facial expressions in this episode. I love his reaction when Eresh said she was plotting something on Uruk the whole time. XD

Feb 16, 2020 4:10 PM

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Sad, the nasuverse is awesome. But if you don't care about the lore, there's no point in me talking to you anymore then. Still, it's kind of contradictory. If you're interested in how the writer introduces his lore then you should be able to understand it even if it's poor from a narrative perspective.
when did i ever make it seem like i wasn't aware of the lore. ur the one with a half-baked understanding of english that came into this thread to lecture me about shit i knew already


video on youtube isn't an option.
what, do you want my friend code as proof
Aure0linFeb 16, 2020 4:24 PM
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 16, 2020 4:47 PM

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Aure0lin said:
I wasn't aware of the lore
No you don't, deep stuff about the lore? Definitely not. Give me your friend code in private if you want to, but since i don't want to get bullied on my real account, i won't send any request.
VncriticalFeb 16, 2020 5:22 PM
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Aure0lin said:
i wasn't aware of the lore
No you don't, deep stuff about the lore? Definitely not. Give me your friend code in private if you want to, but since i don't want to get bullied on my real account, i won't send any request.
that's funny, you were the one who went after me first. do you always play the victim when you find that you were in the wrong
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 16, 2020 5:23 PM

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Aure0lin said:
Vncriticalshit said:
No you don't, deep stuff about the lore? Definitely not. Give me your friend code in private if you want to, but since i don't want to get bullied on my real account, i won't send any request.
that's funny, you were the one who went after me first. do you always play the victim when you find that you were in the wrong

Wrong in what? Give me your friendcode. If you're not going to bully me, then maybe I'm sending you a request. xd
I'm just getting bored of this whole conversation, it's just getting stupid at this point.
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Feb 16, 2020 5:27 PM

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Aure0lin said:
that's funny, you were the one who went after me first. do you always play the victim when you find that you were in the wrong

wrong in what? Give me your friendcode. xd
I'm just getting bored of this whole conversation, it's just getting stupid at this point.
it got stupid a long time ago, now it's just getting tiring.

proof that it's me
https://myanimelist.net/comtocom.php?id1=5278692&id2=4934797
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 16, 2020 5:35 PM

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Vncriticalshit said:

wrong in what? Give me your friendcode. xd
I'm just getting bored of this whole conversation, it's just getting stupid at this point.
it got stupid a long time ago, now it's just getting tiring.

proof that it's me
https://myanimelist.net/comtocom.php?id1=5278692&id2=4934797

Oh well, my bad. If we want to take this conversation a bit further you should rename yourself Aure0lin. I'm sending you a request.
Feb 16, 2020 6:52 PM

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Feb 16, 2020 8:12 PM

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Aure0lin said:




Aure0linFeb 16, 2020 8:17 PM
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Feb 17, 2020 2:05 AM

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Goddamn useless Ishtar has to ruin the day. She is a beta Aqua at this point
Feb 17, 2020 4:22 AM

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The episode was good, Ishtar's NP was awesome, but Tiamat CGI... was really horrible. I hope that they will fix this in the Blu Ray version.
Feb 17, 2020 4:54 AM

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The cgi looked ok to me since it looked really scary
Ishtar being so cool at the start of the ep until became useless at the end of the ep
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Feb 17, 2020 5:12 AM
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Byniavo said:
Goddamn useless Ishtar has to ruin the day. She is a beta Aqua at this point
Tbf it wasn't actually HER fault that she didn't have the bull of heaven.
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Feb 17, 2020 5:33 AM

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-Mahesvara said:
Byniavo said:
Goddamn useless Ishtar has to ruin the day. She is a beta Aqua at this point
Tbf it wasn't actually HER fault that she didn't have the bull of heaven.


Ishtar so useless that she caused Tiamat's CGI to go to the PS2 days
Feb 17, 2020 5:58 AM
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Byniavo said:
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Tbf it wasn't actually HER fault that she didn't have the bull of heaven.


Ishtar so useless that she caused Tiamat's CGI to go to the PS2 days
I don't think you've ever played the ps2 then.
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Feb 17, 2020 8:50 AM

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Best part of the episode lol

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Feb 17, 2020 9:57 AM

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-Mahesvara said:
Byniavo said:
Goddamn useless Ishtar has to ruin the day. She is a beta Aqua at this point
Tbf it wasn't actually HER fault that she didn't have the bull of heaven.


It wasnt Ishtar's fault. It was ishtar's falt.

Let anime only people have their brains explode from that.
Feb 17, 2020 10:07 AM
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ssjokg said:
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Tbf it wasn't actually HER fault that she didn't have the bull of heaven.


It wasnt Ishtar's fault. It was ishtar's falt.

Let anime only people have their brains explode from that.
Lmao true, they'll never get it.
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Feb 17, 2020 12:14 PM

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-Mahesvara said:
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Ishtar so useless that she caused Tiamat's CGI to go to the PS2 days
I don't think you've ever played the ps2 then.


It's called an exaggeration
Feb 17, 2020 12:22 PM
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Byniavo said:
-Mahesvara said:
I don't think you've ever played the ps2 then.


It's called an exaggeration
Then you shouldn't use it as criticism, unless you want to look like an ass that is, then more power to ya.
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Feb 17, 2020 12:24 PM

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It's called an exaggeration
Then you shouldn't use it as criticism, unless you want to look like an ass that is, then more power to ya.


do you even know how to take a joke?
Feb 17, 2020 12:37 PM
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Then you shouldn't use it as criticism, unless you want to look like an ass that is, then more power to ya.


do you even know how to take a joke?
I do, but only good ones, not half-assed and overused/recycled ones KEKW.
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Feb 17, 2020 12:44 PM

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do you even know how to take a joke?
I do, but only good ones, not half-assed and overused/recycled ones KEKW.


do be on your adventure to find a joke that fits your 'refined' tastes, then

about Tiamat's CGI, I checked and it is almost as bad as PS2 cutscene graphics. So, er... ha
Feb 18, 2020 1:57 AM

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The level of gatekeeping in this thread is off the charts. My God.
Feb 20, 2020 8:27 PM

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Quetzalcoatl punching Jaguarman was was fucking hilarious. I'm dying.
Feb 21, 2020 8:43 AM

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I'm so gonna hate this series if they won't even show Gilgamesh in the limelight. Come on now! He's the only one I look forward to.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
Feb 22, 2020 2:12 AM

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This episode was Gold I loved how they build up for next one.
Feb 22, 2020 4:34 AM

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I'm so gonna hate this series if they won't even show Gilgamesh in the limelight. Come on now! He's the only one I look forward to.
You won't hate it then...


Feb 22, 2020 6:33 PM

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Definitely in the minority here, but I like Tiamat's CGI. They made her so otherworldly and unnerving with that extreme uncanny valley look. I also like how they added fangs in her mouth, makes her look cuter :^)

Ishtar's NP was a sight to behold. Sadly, it didn't do jackshit and only made Gil roast her even more lmao.

This is probably the most suspenseful episode so far. Glad to see Eresh back, and I look forward to seeing the group's plan to bring the monstrous goddess down.
Feb 22, 2020 6:39 PM

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hooo great ep, jumped about from being dead serious end of the world scenario, to oh cool we might still have a chance and then to just pure memes.
Ishtar's NP was oooo crisp and def how i imagined it to look like irl.
Tiamat was ok, the contrast of this-is-a-literal-God-Of-Creation-and-Destruction-please-take-it-seriously and her CGI only seemed to reinforce the sheer fear anyone would get looking at her ,still her amazon prime order of "concept of death" is gonna arrive soon.
Ereshkigal did a great job at being a 10/10 cutie, oh and please ignore the fact she literally had an entire plan to kill the whole of Uruk, instead may i introduce you to my religion of "100 photos of Eresh smiling and blushing"?
yeh ishtar pulling moves that if Gilgamesh wasnt half God. he probably would of had a heart attack. Honestly his expression changed faster then my parents looking at my school reports. My guy never gets a break, feels bad that coffee wasnt invented at that time, guy would of loved it probably.
Mar 8, 2020 7:43 AM
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Welcome to the Aqua squad, Ishtar! The CGI was just terrible...
Mar 15, 2020 10:07 AM

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Marvelous episode. Ishtar NP was animated gorgeously. Literally the concept of Venus in an arrow. I don't think a lot of people appreciate the OST for the anime enough. I absolutely love it.

They adapted the comedic scenes so perfectly. Eresh and Ishtar screaming at the same time was fucking hilarious and the look of Gilgamesh's face when Eresh reveals that she may have been plotting something to destroy Uruk was gold. The whole scene with Gugalanna was fucking great with Gil trying to praise Ishtar for the first time, everyone cheering for her even Fou (the cutest) and then the reveal that Ishtar actually lost it, Quetz shutting Jaguarman up, Gilgamesh crowning Ishtar as the most useless goddess. Wonderfully adapted episode.

Tiamat CGI is the least of my concerns.
Mar 16, 2020 4:46 PM

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After seeing CGI Gorgon, im not surprised by CGI Tiamat. The plan looks like it's going to work, all they have to do is keep Tiamat busy for a day. The only thing I could criticize is that the number of days is excessively convenient but nevermind lol.
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Apr 16, 2020 11:26 AM

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So many epic moments, ishtar is soo cute and her full power was soo fucking cool. ANd loved seeing the underworld goddess be cute as well damn I couldn't stop laughing at the end.

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Apr 26, 2020 12:53 AM

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Knowing that Ishtar's Gugalanna is stolen by... Ishtar, the last part of the episode really made my day. It could've been a real good distraction to buy off time for them though
Apr 26, 2020 5:40 PM

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What's with the awful comedy and random undermining of the story with hints of 4th breaking that ruins the atmosphere?

What's with the horrible CG of main antagonist? (like really, that's was just other level of bad, if you can't do it right, don't do it at all). They could just draw her in less time and it would make her look thousand times better.

All of this felt pretty anticlimatic.

Terrible episode. Honestly, the start of this series was good but then it all turned into constant parade of ups and lows. Another Fate spinoff, another failure.

Honestly, just bring on the Ataraxia and maybe new Tsukihime, at this point I'm not interested in anything else. Even the game feels like constant reshash of the same from writing perspective with almost every event story being poor attempt at the same and the worst they are not even taking themselves seriously, going just for pure fanservice.

I would want to say I enjoy this mess as I loved and enjoyed the franchise 15 years back but in comparison DanMemo game is wholly different level right now, at least from story and technical perspective.
May 14, 2020 5:57 PM

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Well at least CGI Tiamat is better than the unoriginal design of Lahmu.

So far, all I can say for Fujimaru is he's just a storage for command seal.
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May 27, 2020 1:20 PM

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big ass bosses without character singing weird sounds is a thing in anime that makes me cringe real hard. Feels so freaking empty and boring
Aug 8, 2020 9:49 AM

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Terrible CGI.

Ishtar "lost" her bull. How convenient, need to drag this out somehow I guess.
Sep 4, 2020 6:13 AM
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Ishtar reminds me of Aqua...
Apr 11, 2021 4:58 AM

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Why was the cg so much worse in this episode?
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Nov 21, 2021 12:16 AM

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The cgi had me laughing
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Jan 6, 2022 7:10 AM

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CGI Tiamat looks quite horrendous. It feels like Mash is only there to say "Senpai" and "Hai" at this point.
Jan 26, 2022 8:56 PM

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lmaooo Gil's reaction when Eresh admitted she'd already been planning to destroy Uruk for the last 10 years
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