Monogatari Series: First Season
| ^ No. It's an exaggeration. About 98% of those black red screen scenes are how that anime is, and it remained same in Blu-ray version. Only 2 % was for the replacement, and it actually indicated that they are the scenes need to filled. The definite example is Bakemonogatari Volume 1. I have both TV series version and Blu-ray, and try to compare both of them to see how much they are different. Surprise surprise, I found about 4 'fixed' seens, but nothing else was changed. All the red black seen was still in the right place without being replaced. YET, it sold about 70000 discs in the first week. It is simply ridiculous even for otaku trying to buy this 'ultimate failure fucked bakemonogatari' for just 4 fixed scenes. The fixed animation is definitely out of all the reasons that made bakemonogatari to have miraculous BD sales. It just the plain fact that most of people liked Bakemonogatari's story telling style, dialogues, characters and arts. Fixed animation should never be an explanation for its success. AirStyles said: Having animation errors that will fixed in BD anyway doesn't mean it is fucked. Ef series also had significant amount of animation errors that is fixed in DVD. Learn it.I did watch other shaft's anime I love ef.a tale of memories. But Bakemonogatari is plain f*cked. |
| dude, I watch the airing bit, but at the very least, ef- didn't leave stuff out on purpose, (even if they did, it's not that damn obvious) |
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| It wasn't out on purpose. Bakemonogatari suffered from 'time management' plan. It's nothing industrial. Their timeline was strictly formated and there is no-way they can change it. Think a bit more; You have homework that's on deadline tomorrow, and you didn't finish it entirely. So, the only way is inevitably handing in unfinished assignment you have on that deadline first, and later beg for mercy to teacher handing finished one later. That's exactly what Bakemonogatari got. They got flamed enough for having slideshows, so SHAFT decided finish their work for the fans. Rather than blame them for powerpoint presentations, I actually want to thank them for at least finishing animations. I mean, have a deep think about what Lazy Studio DEENS has done to Umineko, and how they never fixed errors in their series. Calling shaft lazy is just all out of logics. |
ringoo4 said: It wasn't out on purpose. Bakemonogatari suffered from 'time management' plan. It's nothing industrial. Their timeline was strictly formated and there is no-way they can change it. Think a bit more; You have homework that's on deadline tomorrow, and you didn't finish it entirely. So, the only way is inevitably handing in unfinished assignment you have on that deadline first, and later beg for mercy to teacher handing finished one later. That's exactly what Bakemonogatari got. They got flamed enough for having slideshows, so SHAFT decided finish their work for the fans. Rather than blame them for powerpoint presentations, I actually want to thank them for at least finishing animations. I mean, have a deep think about what Lazy Studio DEENS has done to Umineko, and how they never fixed errors in their series. Calling shaft lazy is just all out of logics. On evey single f*cking episode?!?! Think for a sec! I stated, if it happens once or twice, I wouldn't have even cared, even if it only happen once as bad as episode 10, I'd forgive it, but every, single, freaking, week. If I couldn't finish my assignment and hand in unfinish work every, single, freaking, time, I'd fail already!! again, it's not once, it's every, single, freaking, week! They are proffesionals for crying out loud! I've seen a crap load of 1 episode quality drop, 1 episode of laziness, etc etc. I never cry about those. Heck, Gunslinger Girl season 2 got little funding and the quality dropped, I didn't cry about it because they are in fact doing what they can with the little budget they have. THe problem with Bakemonogatari, is not complete a single episode, not even 1. This show, is not even finish, and some people hail it as all time great, something is terribly wrong there! It's like saying, "I write a half complete book... with some dialogs not completed, some jumpy plot, but if done right, it'll be the best book... so it's the best" CHRIST! If you agree with the line above... I won't even bother reasoning with you anymore. tillow214 said: Personally I've grown rather fond of the cuts. I can't even image Bakemonogatari without them. Whether it was marketing strategy (as AirStyles said), time management issues (most likely), or just how the anime was made to be, I think it adds to the uniqueness and quality. .... Picture those things on half the new release from now on... I hope you still enjoy it. |
AirStylesApr 7, 2010 7:31 PM
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| I thought it was just the way the animation was done. I really like it, I think it is tasteful and different from everything else. Either you like it like that or you don't.... |
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AirStyles said: What if I release my book online for free and then sell the edited version? Everybody makes edits to stuff they sell, you seriously think everybody makes everything perfect the first time or that there aren't any changes in movies, books, TV shows from the first airing to the "definitive" DVD/BD releases? The whole concept of "director's cut" is disagreeing with you and your stupid trolling.It's like saying, "I write a half complete book... with some dialogs not completed, some jumpy plot, but if done right, it'll be the best book... so it's the best" CHRIST! If you agree with the line above... I won't even bother reasoning with you anymore. Corners are cut for most TV airings of anime, everybody knows this, Bakemonogatari just happened to have more than usual. Why this mystifies you I cannot fathom. I guess you rage at censors too, huh? |
kuroshiroi said: AirStyles said: What if I release my book online for free and then sell the edited version? Everybody makes edits to stuff they sell, you seriously think everybody makes everything perfect the first time or that there aren't any changes in movies, books, TV shows from the first airing to the "definitive" DVD/BD releases? The whole concept of "director's cut" is disagreeing with you and your stupid trolling.It's like saying, "I write a half complete book... with some dialogs not completed, some jumpy plot, but if done right, it'll be the best book... so it's the best" CHRIST! If you agree with the line above... I won't even bother reasoning with you anymore. Corners are cut for most TV airings of anime, everybody knows this, Bakemonogatari just happened to have more than usual. Why this mystifies you I cannot fathom. I guess you rage at censors too, huh? I don't rage at censors stuff. In fact I watch a lot of stuff censored. I only rage at Bakemono because they release a work that is not close to being completed. I do knew about censorship as well as editing, but Bakemono just gone a bit too far that everysingle episodes points at "marketing strategy". Director cut is alright, because they already release a full version that's watchable, the director cut, back stage interview, special effect explanation, everything. But to release a work that absurd and still get recognise for being the best show by some... NO!! that is freaking wrong. Having deleted scene or saving things to attract DVD sales is okay, but going as far as that? NO! I never even rage at episode in anime with bad animation like most other people, because at least they finish the work, having unfinished work every single freaking episode is bad. |
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AirStyles said: Did you even watch the blu-ray version at all? It seems you didn't, my bad. Most of episodes had about average 4 or 5 fixed scene which is just slightly more than what other animes do. Plus, all the recent online streaming episode has zero unfinished scenes if you care.On evey single f*cking episode?!?! Think for a sec! I stated, if it happens once or twice, I wouldn't have even cared, even if it only happen once as bad as episode 10, I'd forgive it, but every, single, freaking, week. If I couldn't finish my assignment and hand in unfinish work every, single, freaking, time, I'd fail already!! I've seen a crap load of 1 episode quality drop, 1 episode of laziness, etc etc. I never cry about those. Heck, Gunslinger Girl season 2 got little funding and the quality dropped, I didn't cry about it because they are in fact doing what they can with the little budget they have. THe problem with Bakemonogatari, is not complete a single episode, not even 1. This show, is not even finish, and some people hail it as all time great, something is terribly wrong there! You know, you absolutely make no-sense at all. First, you said you hate all those incompleted ones were cheating and industrial purpose, my focus was entirely there and rebutted. Now, you are just pissed off about entire existence on those 'incompleted scenes' themselves without apparent reasoning on what I actually asked you. I mean seriously, I highly suggest you to watch the actual BD version. You will see how much flawed you've been. + what kuroshiroi said. AirStyles said: I don't rage at censors stuff. In fact I watch a lot of stuff censored. I only rage at Bakemono because they release a work that is not close to being completed. I do knew about censorship as well as editing, but Bakemono just gone a bit too far that everysingle episodes points at "marketing strategy". You obviously didn't read my previous posts. |
ringoo4Apr 8, 2010 3:50 AM
ringoo4 said: AirStyles said: Did you even watch the blu-ray version at all? It seems you didn't, my bad. Most of episodes had about average 4 or 5 fixed scene which is just slightly more than what other animes do. Plus, all the recent online streaming episode has zero unfinished scenes if you care.On evey single f*cking episode?!?! Think for a sec! I stated, if it happens once or twice, I wouldn't have even cared, even if it only happen once as bad as episode 10, I'd forgive it, but every, single, freaking, week. If I couldn't finish my assignment and hand in unfinish work every, single, freaking, time, I'd fail already!! I've seen a crap load of 1 episode quality drop, 1 episode of laziness, etc etc. I never cry about those. Heck, Gunslinger Girl season 2 got little funding and the quality dropped, I didn't cry about it because they are in fact doing what they can with the little budget they have. THe problem with Bakemonogatari, is not complete a single episode, not even 1. This show, is not even finish, and some people hail it as all time great, something is terribly wrong there! You know, you absolutely make no-sense at all. First, you said you hate all those incompleted was a cheating and industrial purpose, my focus was entirely there. Now, you are just pissed off about those 'incompleted scenes' themselves without apparent reasoning. I mean seriously, I highly suggest you to watch the actual BD version. You will see how much flawed you've been. + what kuroshiroi said. first, if you're telling me only 4~5 "unschedule cut"out of over 15 per episode is fixed in the BD If you're telling me that the BD version is going to still have anymore of those "unschedule cut" crap, I'm thanking god I didn't buy/donwload a single episode, cuz not only they didn't finish it in time,(quite possibly on purpose) they didn't even bother to try finishing it on BD. but, if you're suggesting that the BD version did cover all of the "unschedule cut" and fix up 4~5 animations... There we go, marketing! I said I wouldn't have minded if they actually couldn't make it in time and release bad quality episode, but to completely leave them out is wrong. not just one week, every single week. they're paid professionals, (Oh no! Do not cry about how poor those animators are, I don't care!) To have more than 15 unchedule cut every single episode is absurd. It is definitely marketing strategy. Again, they are recognized, highly rated, for a show they didn't even bother to finish, because... hey, lets use it to our advantage and make it DVD attraction. screw completing even a single episode. I remember watching ef-a tale of memories, the animation is actually similar to Bakemonogatari. It have a few blanks, but it's alright. (I don't know whether it's deliberate or not because it is that insignificant and didn't have cheating written all over it). I'd gladly buy ef- BD to support them if they ever show up in my country. but Bakemono went too far. It's like handing in a test paper to your teacher. writting class Teacher: "Why is some of the sentences left out, they could be great?" Me: "Pay me money and you'll see the full sentences. why should I write you?" a good DVD cover should be like this Teacher: "There are some blanks." Me : "I can't finish it in time, and I think I like to save some of my idea for a future release. maybe even state it in author's note about how I get those ideas and crap" there. Powerpoint presentation, sure, but to have cuts... that many cuts! It have cheating written all over it. I don't care that DEEN did worse when it comes to quality, at the very least, the work they did didn't have cheating written over it. an finally I did not call them lazy, I call them cheating! |
AirStylesApr 8, 2010 4:13 AM
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| ^ Keep rage... >_> You just repeated what you have been said again... This isn't marketing. Those missing scenes you are bothering which was only about 20 second of entire series were 'INEVITABLE'. They didn't left out those in purpose. They simply 'didn't have time to finish it'. It 'isn't' marketing strategy. It just 'happened to be'. Do you even know what happened in SHAFT during that period? Shaft was moving their office, which was unscheduled. Half amount of animators were working on ZanSZS. Shaft is relatively smaller studio than anywhere else, yet has been always produce maximum amount of quality as possible in given situation. Except... 'EXCEPT' those 20 seconds of missed-out scenes, art was basically perfect and extremely creative. If you are saying 'still too much red black scenes omg', you better watch Sayonara Zetsubou sensei first, and see how they did even more amount of creepy slideshows. Remember this again, only 1% of all those monochromes were actual missing scenes. All the others are what Shinbou usually do and remained same in BD version. Beside, actual consensus denies your theory, since Nadeko Snake volume didn't really sell much as what others did. |
ringoo4Apr 8, 2010 4:21 AM
AirStyles said: Wait, why are you so pissed off? Are you angry at them for airing it incomplete or angry at them for fixing stuff up on the BDs? In case you didn't know, the producers PAY for having their shows aired, they don't get paid for it like in America and the most of the world. That's the reason most anime airs late at night, it's cheaper for the producers. If they pulled this in America, you would see heads roll. Since they paid for their own airing slot, they can air unfinished, censored, re-edited shit on TV and there's nothing anybody can do, as long as it doesn't break the law.but, if you're suggesting that the BD version did cover all of the "unschedule cut" and fix up 4~5 animations... There we go, marketing! I'll tl;dr it for you: Shaft pays for having Bakemonogatari air on TV. Actually, it's not Shaft that pays but the production committee but whatever. The whole point of the TV airing is to advertise the BD/DVDs or in some cases, an ongoing manga. They have every right to air unfinished stuff and there's nothing you can say or do that would make it anything but right. You don't like the incomplete episodes? Buy the DVD/BDs or be a true pirate and just download. AirStyles said: Cheating? Seriously? How? By giving you slightly incomplete free stuff? You don't pay, the network doesn't pay, nobody pays but the producers, how is this cheating in any way, shape or form? You're suggesting animating stuff twice is some kind of master plan when the customer might not even pay for it once? Real brilliant marketing strategy... I did not call them lazy, I call them cheating! "Hi, I'm going to give you a car, it's a little dented but it works fine. For a small price, I can fix your new free dented car, good as new, but it's totally optional! It's a win-win!" Seriously dude. Edit: OK, after re-reading the OP it's clear you don't know what the fuck is going on in Japan's TV land and so all of your arguments are completely and utterly based on the wrong facts. As I suspected, you seem to think Bakemonogatari could've been "cancelled" or that the ratings matter, two things that are simply wrong when dealing with Japanese anime. Read my entire post, realize that America/New Zealand are not Japan and then ponder your current view. |
kuroshiroiApr 8, 2010 5:35 AM
| Now, you are repeating again. The fact, 'unscheduled cut Unscheduled cut Unscheduled cut Unscheduled cut Unscheduled cut' can be so obviously ignored by simply downloading freakin BD version. Beside; your focus of this entire thread was on 'unfinished cuts are cheating' which is just so untrue.Therefore, your are justifying yourself by saying "I hat bakemonogatari because they are so lazy so do cutz!!". You know, this makes absolutely no sense but reflect your troll instincts and rage. The epic part is, AirStyles said: You know, this isn't really reasoning at all. It's just your freakin rage but no where 'truth' to all people. Bakemonogatari is the only anime that is that absurd when it comes to unscheduled cut Jesus, Internet argument. |
| So the final conclusion is Bakemonogatari did nothing wrong. They can do whatever they want to boost DVD/BD sales. They can (literally, in all logic) show us a middle finger on the middle of the screen as a screen block with text saying, "Don't want this? buy the DVD/BD" And it is perfectly okay because they pay for it. Anime that air weekly should be seen as previews to DVD/BD. End this topic, I'm oblivious to who's paying for the airing and did not know that the Anime on TV is just a marketing tool for the DVD/BD sales. I'm sorry for all the trouble I've caused. My views are obviously flawed when it comes to judging regular television in a foreign country. again, I am sorry for all the ignorant idiocy I've wrote. I guess I'll be picking up a Bakemonogatari BD after all. |
AirStylesApr 8, 2010 7:58 AM
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| Is my sarcasm detector faulty or did you really see my point? |
| Actually I did. I'm not a troll, I'm just ignorant. When I fight for something, I usually go all out, to the extent that I may look like a raging troll, but if I am to ever realize my mistakes, I'd stop building on top of the mistakes. In fact I always apologizes to people as well. (May not make sense to you, but that's how I am) But if anything, I don't make the same mistake twice. So I'll refrain from judging an anime base on it's performance on weekly releases EDIT: The middle finger part is part of my sense of humor. If people ever commented on how they rate an anime base on the weekly releases, the middle finger bit is exactly how I'll explain to them. |
AirStylesApr 8, 2010 8:42 AM
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| Christ, why didn't somebody explain this earlier ^^ Now, obviously it's not in Shaft's best interest to air unfinished stuff, they want their ad to be as perfect as possible. In this case, they simply couldn't cope with the schedule and had to resort to cuts etc. so people could at least get an idea about what they were going to buy. They had been doing two shows a season for over a year, something had to give and unfortunately it was Bakemono... |
| Sad thing is =_=... I take my past idiocy rather seriously... I'm easily reminded of what kind of fool I was... even today, I can be easily reminded of a mistake I made as a 7 year old and felt all sad because I can't change the past... (I think I'm the only one who still remember that incident... all I did was cutting up drawing paper that teacher handed out and wear it like a hat, which got myself in trouble, but I just can't seem to forget that, and am easily reminded of that... I don't know what got into me that very day...) I guess I'll keep this new signature for a while, until I got over this for a bit... |
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| It's all fine. There are already significant amount of members who hates bakemonogatari just for this cuts. Mainly for two reasons; first, for being a marketing strategy and second, just hate monochromes in general. First one is just not true and the second one is that they just hate SHAFT products in general. One thing I know is, SHAFT is not a studio somewhere like Studio deens. From what I've seen SHAFT for the past few years, they always tries their best attempt in a given situation. They do slight amount of troll sometimes (Bakemonogatari delay for example), but it's nowhere near to what Gainax and Kyoani do. I can say one exception. Honestly, Dance in the Vampire Bund was just out of hand. |
ringoo4 said: Well said.This has absolutely nothing to do with money conspiracy. SHAFT was just in luck. SHAFT is relatively small studio than any other production companies. The number of staffs are small. Last year, with that circumstance, they still managed to do Mario holic, Natsu no arashi two seasons, third season SZS and bakemonogatari. They cannot really change the airing schedule; it's totally dependant on 'producer' company like aniplex. Due to the serious time management problem arised with their other animes; natsu no arashi dvd and Zan saryonara zetsubou sensei. So, rather than cancelling their anime, showed incompleted slide-shows. It's their fault, but it's no conspiracy. They also showed incompleted and cheap episode for Zan sayonara zetsubou sensei 'EVEN MORE THAN' Bakemonogatari and fixed it in DVD, yet the selling was less than Bakemonogatari. You can't really related those slide-show as a reason for high selling. It did affect it, but it's only an indirect reason. The main reason bakemonogatari displayed miraculous sales on DVD and Blu-ray, was their extremely good art-style and character design regardless of being incompleted, and its clever development on story and characters containing a lot of otaku appeals. |
Yemi_Hikari said: Well, the TV airings are essentially ads. People who paint pictures usually advertise their paintings by taking pictures of them and putting them in a brochure or online or something like that. The quality isn't the best but you'll get the idea. Then when you want so see the real deal, you go to a gallery. BD/DVDs are Shaft's gallery.Now that people have cleared up some things, that clears up that one thing that I was upset about, simply because it doesn't exist. (The whole, cutting so much, and then adding so much.) I am not sure if I'll explain it in the right words. From the stand point of an artist here, both writer and an artist, how can anyone be pleased with putting out work they know is flawed and rushed through? I know that they are supposed to be a small studio, however, from the posts I've seen, people are saying that they have a history of this. (Do correct this, if people haven't been giving accurate information... I tried googling something, and found squat.) Is this kind of thing though, something that one can call professional? No. I also, from this standpoint, say that simply because they pay for their times slots and we are getting it for free, doesn't excuse being unporfessional about it. Of course they want to showcase the completed work but due to scheduling and management issues, not to mention pressure from the people paying, these delays occurred. I'm pretty sure they're trying to remedy the situation, only doing one show at the moment and fixing up DVDs and completing the last Bakemonogatari episode. Hopefully they'll get back on track in 6 months or something and this won't happen in the future. It's bound to happen again though ^^ tl;dr: They don't have the luxury of delaying their scheduled TV shows, so their only option is using incomplete versions as ads. |
| I haven't watched as much Anime as most of the people in here, so I don't have as much under my belt, experience-wise...just saying. Anyway... Since watching the first episode, I've always thought that the "unnumbered cuts" and other stuff were a part of how Bakemonogatari was intended to be, stylistically. Seeing them also occasionally reminded me of ef - a tale of memories/melodies (which was also in part/completely produced by SHAFT, respectively); a series that I thought was absolutely stellar. The unnumbered cuts aside, I think the anime adaptation of the series is the most unique (in every sense of the word) I've ever seen, and I fell in love with it, following the series since. I haven't read the visual novels mainly cause I don't like reading Mangas as opposed to watching Animes, so I don't exactly know what I'm missing. All this said, I'm sure my opinion would be considered heavily biased by some, but there's my two cents. @ SHAFT; Ep. 15 ASAP! =[ |
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| Style over substance I guess. To each his own. |
| Have you just recently watched Welcome to NHK? It's the same thing, I mean the way your acting. Lol, I'm actually supporting this. I've lost fate in SHAFT now. Same for KyoAni. I'm not even watching anything that SHAFT makes anymore. Seriously. |
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| The cuts were awesome. |
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| Just think that the cuts are artistic and problem is solved,because you think that it's irritating it arise so many problem... just think it in a different way and problem is solved. |
| I actually thought that the monochromes and cuts sort of added to the mood depending on the color o.o;;. It's like... if there's danger, or anger, there might be red, or if there's sort of a dark, or hint at darkness, there might be the common black. Maybe it's just me, but that's what I was thinking of them as xD;;. |
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Yemi_Hikari said: Your example isn't quite right. There is clear difference between art and industrial media products. Your example of 'painting' is only needs to be finished before showing the photo, since what important for them is originality and very hard to be FIXED or whatever. Anime isn't serious business like that, it is very flexible, and there are so much other things to be concerned, not just art or animation part.Sorry, but no. The example of people taking pictures of their paitings and posting them into magazines isn't an arguement that helps their standing in this, it actually hurts them. What artist would go and take a picture of a half finished paiting for an advertizement and slam it into a magazine? Even if the picture resoultion isn't the best, they still show the whole, and finnished product. In all my art classes, my professors emphasize that we need to not just work on our skills, but be aware of "scheduling and managing" issues. In other words, this is something that a professional should know about. It's not like I'm saying SHAFT did a good thing. It was huge mistake struggling with the time management. But it doesn't mean it is WRONG. Yemi_Hikari said: [repeat]I can only do that, when the cuts are intentional. Someone has proven that they were, for the most part intentional. Cuts were NOT intentional, but 99% of them was art aspect that usual SHAFT does. Only about 15 seconds of whole series was remained unfinished. [/repeat] |
AlexSadist-sama said: Okay, I get what you mean now. Wtf. There are constant image interruptions (the red/yellow backgrounds). i actually thought the red / yellow parts were part of the show and didn't mind them at all. doesn't really annoy me or anything, as written above they have they're own reasons for doing it. criticizing isn't the same as making the work by yourself. |
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| Wow, I thought it was completely some sort of artistic thing all along. The cuts - intentional or not - piss me off to no end. It's like having a guy next to you with a stack of construction paper occassionally screaming RED and covering up your monitor with its corresponding paper. I don't want to watch Bakemonogatari for any kind of artistic value at all - I just want to be entertained. It's hard to be entertained with these goddamn interuptions. I would go as far as to say that I dislike the show if it wasn't for its amazing characters. |
AirStyles said: imagine Higurashi like this That is what Bakemonogatari is like. It didn't only happen in the good part, it happens at least 25 times an episode. LMFAO! This makes me want to watch it |
| WHOA WHOA WHOA i thought those cuts were actually part of the show..... so they really aren't part of the show!!!!! |
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| some were, some werent, if you want to blame bakemonos success to anything, if you want to call anything "cheating" blame it on its HEAVY pandering of the oraku AND common watcher's interests. Many western viewers may not get some of the jokes and references Bakemonogatari has on its episodes but I assure you this anime is ABSOLUTELY INFESTED with them...im calling pretty much 40% of a bakemonogatari's episode is jokes/references to popular japanese culture, such heavy use of these things for many of their jokes are what the japanese viewers found interesting about the show and it explains in incredibly high sales. And by popular culture I mean pretty much everything to different shows, commercials, etc... Of course the otakus would eat it up!! Just remember this, popular in Japan =/= popular outside of Japan |
| yeah It's true man... there's must be someone big(figure) behind this... |
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Yemi_Hikari said: Cashdaxxx said: yeah It's true man... there's must be someone big(figure) behind this... I am not sure what asspect of the thread you are refering to. I mean... you could be refering yet again to the fact that there are all those cuts, or you could be refering to the fact that there is tons of subtle imphasis on various parts of the Japanese culture in there... refers to: money-making business a.k.a. Otaku pawah!! |
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AirStyles said: kenjinsakura said: Well, I don't get why you're so angry though. It's not like youre gonna buy the dvd right? We're all just gonna DL the dvd rips anyway right? =) I just hate to see shows like that... I'd gladly say good thing about good show, buying DVDs even(In fact I bought DVD, VCDs, even rented anime in the past when I lived in Asia). But I can't get over the fact that they're popular for what they did... The world shouldn't work this way. When you hand in an exam paper incomplete, you fail... sure you might still pass, but not writting down the answer to important questions or your name/ID number... You fail! It's just wrong for them to be famous, and for so many to call it the best show ever made... If people rant about Moe-blob, because they want less of it... why can't I rant about this abomination? I do not wanna see another example of it! AlexSadist-sama said: Okay, I get what you mean now. Wtf. There are constant image interruptions (the red/yellow backgrounds). I know, now imagine that on all your favorite show, still think you'll like them? If people kept supporting this crap, there will be more of these I agree, don't complain for something that is free . Your not going to pay for it. This show cost money and time to make. Be grateful that you get to "pirate" (Er, Steal) it off the internet and watch it for free, with free fansubs. Work you put into this? None, unless you count your rant, lol. Though I do agree with you, it is quite annoying. But bearable, as seeing I have not, and probably will not buy any of the DVD/BR. (I just can't afford it). Besides, I'd rather have random annoying blank scenes for partially part of the show, than having down-graded art. But hey, that's just me. |
FateEntityJun 6, 2010 4:46 AM
ringoo4 said: ^ Keep rage... >_> You just repeated what you have been said again... This isn't marketing. Those missing scenes you are bothering which was only about 20 second of entire series were 'INEVITABLE'. They didn't left out those in purpose. They simply 'didn't have time to finish it'. It 'isn't' marketing strategy. It just 'happened to be'. And by 'happened to be' you mean 'purposeful, because it's fun.' To the ones who don't have a problem with the cuts, even after realizing most were intentional: You should read House of Leaves. If you're fine reading something that doesn't involve a harem ^^ The reason I mention it is because it's a modern horror where the author occasionally leaves out information for certain scenes to simulate certain effects. Quite purposely. I thought it was well done. Humorously enough, the parallel goes even further to some comments mentioned in this thread already: the book was first released online for free, and then was sold in book form. With extras, of course, but that's because the author was able to consolidate all his information into a pretty book. The text itself goes crazy at points ^^ It is long, and a very involved book, but I enjoyed it immensely. |
| I only really started watching anime recently, and Bakemonogatari was probably only the 7th full series I watched. When I watched it, I thought those cuts of red and black were part of the show. I thought it was some interesting new gimmick that this show was using (I never did figure out why it was needed). The only thing I noticed about this show was how everything was drawn in a way that was so different from other anime I have seen, though admittedly I have not seen as many as some. The point is for me I was never affected by those cuts, they made the show even more special for me because I thought they were some neat trick to symbolize something XD. |
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