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Oct 20, 2017 10:16 AM

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ChocoBar9 said:
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Yeah I know I was not referring to him reaching 100% but more the fact that he is now able to actually fight at 100% without the usual drawbacks.

Because Eri is preventing his bones from giving out. Deku is just using that as an advantage to prevent himself from dying through her quirk by doing so himself.


Yeah I got that but he is still at 100% isn't he? And aside from having to carry Eri he can freely use it in a fight for the moment, which ,for my liking, is a bit too early at this point, but hey let's see how this plays out
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GreeenSponge said:
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Because Eri is preventing his bones from giving out. Deku is just using that as an advantage to prevent himself from dying through her quirk by doing so himself.


Yeah I got that but he is still at 100% isn't he? And aside from having to carry Eri he can freely use it in a fight for the moment, which ,for my liking, is a bit too early at this point, but hey let's see how this plays out

Can you really call it too early when he's done it all throughout the manga until he was told to stop? The only difference now is that he has Full Cowl.
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ChocoBar9 said:
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Yeah I got that but he is still at 100% isn't he? And aside from having to carry Eri he can freely use it in a fight for the moment, which ,for my liking, is a bit too early at this point, but hey let's see how this plays out

Can you really call it too early when he's done it all throughout the manga until he was told to stop? The only difference now is that he has Full Cowl.


well I mean he barely just used 20% so using a "full control" 100% (I know it is not really under control and he can only use it in this fight if even) now feels a bit early for me yes, I think a usable 100% full cowl is something we should wait a bit longer for... have him get there slowly, get hyped with every little upgrade and all that if you know what I mean
Oct 20, 2017 10:59 AM

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- nighteye is alive
- Eri's power is too broken
- Deku become new saiyan

this manga become new fairy tail

1/5
Oct 20, 2017 11:00 AM

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The thing is that when she starts to rewind, she can't control it. Right now is working because Deku is continually destroying himself. I don't know what will happen when he stops the 100% mode.

The problem is Hori intentionally left her quirk vague until recently and now excuses it with her not being able to control it properly which means he can do whatever the fuck he wants with Eri. This is pure plot convenience because the focal point of this rescue arc just so happens to have the ability to erase the punishment for Deku going 100%.
Gotta agree with you here, Eri's quirk feels like a pretty massive plot convenience that was specifically made to circumvent the problems that come with using 100% of OFA, at least for this particular arc.
I also didn't like how the girls were basically written out of the fight because they supposedly can't handle Overhaul "in their current state" according to Nighteye. So now it's all up to Midoriya to save the day in the end.

If Eri somehow stays and heals people in the aftermath of this arc I'll be pretty damn disappointed.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Either it's mistranslated..Or the author doesn't understand how evolutionary biology works


waiting for FA version... MS does oftenly make mistranslation, but compliely change the dialogue? probably not... so i expect the worst...
I think the Viz Translations are the most accurate, they'll come on monday
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Smells like bullshit and everyone is eating it right up...


Its not bullshit and I have faith in the writing this isnt Fairy Tail :|


I'm not saying that the entire series is Based on BS(Like FT) but if you can't see how much BS and Asspull was in this chapter then I have no business talking with a Blind Supporter.
We are the audience/critics we need to voice our opinion when necessary to call out things like this.
Oct 20, 2017 12:31 PM

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If she will ever learn to use her Quirk, she will become the best support Deku needs, he could use 100% forever.
Oct 20, 2017 12:31 PM

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Still waiting for her limits to get explained. Otherwise I will keep having this thought that she can cure All Might in the back of my head...
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Sapewloth said:

I also didn't like how the girls were basically written out of the fight because they supposedly can't handle Overhaul "in their current state" according to Nighteye. So now it's all up to Midoriya to save the day in the end.


So true, especially when you notice that both Mirio and Tamaki have had important fights and Nejire hasn't. She is supposed to be as strong as they are but she hasn't done anything great.

Also, I'm worried about how Horikoshi will handle Eri and her quirk in the future...
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Why the hell are like half of you thinking full cowl 100% is gonna kill deku in a instant. Its literally the same as the first time he used one for all just in his entire body but she is healing him instantly.

Also for all of you who are saying that this is gonna ruin the manga im 99% sure that she won't. Are you all forgetting that they are heros they aren't gonna use the less than 10 year old girl in a mission. It is highly likely that she will either lose he power, we learn there are strict limitations to it, or something else along those lines.
Oct 20, 2017 3:07 PM
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So, Eri can rewind the eventual death of Midoriya, and give Mirio back is quirk.
Oct 20, 2017 5:17 PM

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Eri's quirk can only rewind humans (or maybe all other living things too?) so as overpowered her quirk is its still have limitations and that is good to hear or else this manga will end soon if Eri mastered her quirk fast lol


What is/are the limitations to it exactly? The quitk could be modified by Chisaki? Her only disadvantage looks like ranged attacks.
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isekai said:
Eri's quirk can only rewind humans (or maybe all other living things too?) so as overpowered her quirk is its still have limitations and that is good to hear or else this manga will end soon if Eri mastered her quirk fast lol


What is/are the limitations to it exactly? The quitk could be modified by Chisaki? Her only disadvantage looks like ranged attacks.


well i thought her quirk is rewinding of time in an area some sort lol but its limited to only what living being she touch it seems
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I still think One for All has some kind of wind power mixed into it. I think one of the past users from 2-7 had some kind of wind type quirk that it picked up along the way, but he has to throw a kick or a punch to use it. It would explain how All Might can fly around like he used to.

As fun as it to see Midoriya fight at 100%, I feel it's quite risky. This strategy is depended on the quirks of two different people keeping pace with each other. Either of them can fully control their quirks on top of that. If one of them stops working, or slows down then Midoriya is in trouble.

Long term, I think this might help Midoriya better control One for All, as it will allow him to get a better feel for it. However this clearly won't be a permanent thing. There is no way Midoriya will go into battle regularly with a girl less then half his age strapped to his back. He will still have to take his time mastering One for All.

This does have major implantation for the story as a whole. Yes, it's a bit of a comp out that she could heal Nighteye with that whole in hist chest. (Why isn't he already dead) And Maybe restore Mirio's quirk, that's in a bit of a gray area. There is the possibility of her healing All Might, restoring him to how he was six or seven years ago. I'm not sure if this will give him back One for All. I've known about the potential of healing All Might for a while now. Overhaul could do it, but honestly that was never going to happen. Eri on the other hand would be more willing to heal him. Then again this could also result in Nighteye's prophecy of death. I don't know how long it takes for her to wipe someone from existence.

For those of you wondering how Eri's rewind can erase quirks, I think Chisaki gave us a good clue. He said if she tried hard enough she could turn someone into a monkey. While this impossible, we didn't evolve from them, I get what he is saying. It might have just been Chisaki's mistake. He did give up fame, fortune, and power to play yakuza after all. More likely she could turn a human into a neanderthal or something.

They likely adjust her power in the lab somehow to rewind human evolution to the point before we developed quirks, rather then to before Mirio's quirk manifested itself. If that's the case then she might not be able to restore him. I'm not sure, there is a lot of this we don't understand.

One question I have is how are they so sure this is permanent? The older versions only lasted a few hours. However I don't know how they could test if it is permanently gone. They could have tested it on someone, erased their quirk, and found it wasn't back the next day. However this doesn't prove that it's gone for good, only that it last longer then before. For example, say the effects now last 3 months. It doesn't seem very long since they got this latest version, so long term effects could still be unknown.
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Kuma said:
yeah, no... this is bullshit... has is this power has anything to do with deleting qurick? how they can control it? turn back to monkey? WTF i honestly hope it's mistranslation...


her quirk rewinds the development of the plus alpha instantly

she can't control it. In fact this is the first time she consciously uses it and she doesn't know what she does.

there's probably more to how she rewinds or it's just a figure of speech.
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also, thank god most of the readers are sensible to know when something is not an asspull
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Most of you seem to be forgetting three things:

- Eri can't control her quirk which means whenever she uses it, everyone she uses it on will disappear after some time.

- If Deku doesn't injure himself, he will disappear himself. Who knows what happens after the fight when he doesn't injure himself anymore. Who knows what would happen to Nighteye if Eri touches him. He might probably completely disappear as well unless he gets constantly injured. The same might happen to Mirio. Who knows if she can even reverse his quirk without being able to control her own quirk. Mirio might just simply disappear straight away.

- Even if the heroes save Eri, Eri is prohibited from even using her quirk. If you don't have a hero license, using your quirk on others in public isn't allowed. Unless there is an exception, but in Eri's case I doubt it. Especially because the quirk can make people disappear, she won't be allowed to actually use it. Who knows what will happen with her, but she might actually be prohibited from living a normal life again because her quirk is that dangerous. Or the Villain Alliancr might steal the quirk.

Yes, Eri might be a plot convenience, but then again I've seen much worse plot conveniences in other manga. This is definitely still in the realm of possibility. If Eri didn't have a really strong quirk, Overhaul wouldn't have kept her hostage. So she was bound to have a strong quirk from the start. The only thing that actually is a convenience is that her quirk can heal injuries, which is nothing impossible in Boku no Hero Academia. Coincidences happen in reallife as well. There have been lots of even more unlikely events in reallife. By lots I mean a whole lot.

This is nothing against the plot conveniences other manga and anime use. Look at One Piece for example, how often did the Straw Hats and especially Luffy somehow get out of situations where huge odds are stacked against them? Just to list two examples from a huge sample: Impel Down and Whole Cake Island. The chance of Luffy even surviving one these arcs is probably way more unlikely then Eri having a quirk that can heal Deku's injuries. Like seriously, if Eri is already a big plot convenience, then what is Ivankov compared to this?

In One Piece's case, noone actually cares about all the plot conveniences, but Boku no Hero Academia gets lots of hate? Rly?

The arc hasn't even ended yet, so neither I nor anyone else knows what will happen. Horikoshi has been very unpredictable in recent time. So he might even do sth we don't even expect him to do.
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So, Eri can rewind the eventual death of Midoriya, and give Mirio back is quirk.
Mirio doesn't need Eri to get back his quirk. He just needs to use the serum that was introduced in chapter 146 and that Overhaul is probably keeping in one of his pockets.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Well, there's still a chance that towards the end of this fight, out of desperation, Chisaki ends up destroying Eri's Quirk.
That way the "asspull" dissapears, Deku keeps his to be little sister, Nighteye dies and Mirio remains Quirkless.

Also, about drawbacks, my first thought on the rewind thing was that Deku's training on his body to keep up with OfA is slowly being reverted, so... I don't know what to expect out of this really
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Wow, this is so much better than my initial thought of Uravity and Froppy being there to save the day. Glad to see, Deku has him time to shine in the spotlight without using any nakama powers.

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Probably the worst chapter Hori has put out so far. If Eri stays after this arc the series will go completely downhill for me.


I don't think she's gonna stay, I feel like, the heroes are probably just going to find someone to look after her properly to help her control her powers. I don't think Deku would like to use her either as some type of "healing machine" he isn't that kind of character.
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then he will get back his quirck? it's only rewind...
yeah i think he'll get it back..but i'm not sure tho, we don't know exactly what chisaki did with the experimentals of the quirk so i think he did more than just changing what the quirk is targeting (targeting the quirk instead of the body)..the arc is not done yet, i'm pretty sure we'll get some answers of all these damn questions


i really hope so, otherwise, sigh...

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You people reeeeeeaaaaally like to make assumptions just for the hell of it dont you? Calm the fuck down

Didn't they say she doesn't know how to actually control it? how the fuck is she gonna cure everybody like that?

That's just a shit excuse so Hori could use it whenever he feels like it. Just like he is now to let Deku use 100%.

How are you guys not even seeing this? Eri's entire character is just a convenient plot device to let Deku reach that state.

@Sapewloth

the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot...

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waiting for FA version... MS does oftenly make mistranslation, but compliely change the dialogue? probably not... so i expect the worst...
I think the Viz Translations are the most accurate, they'll come on monday


they aren't free and i am not a northrn america soo...

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yeah, no... this is bullshit... has is this power has anything to do with deleting qurick? how they can control it? turn back to monkey? WTF i honestly hope it's mistranslation...


her quirk rewinds the development of the plus alpha instantly

she can't control it. In fact this is the first time she consciously uses it and she doesn't know what she does.

there's probably more to how she rewinds or it's just a figure of speech.


she can't, yes, but how "they" (yakuza) selectiving "rewind" quirck to only use it to "deleting" quirck?
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Kuma said:
she can't, yes, but how "they" (yakuza) selectiving "rewind" quirck to only use it to "deleting" quirck?
I think they used some bullshit science to make Eri's quirk specifically target the quirk factors so that it would be the only part of the target's body that gets rewinded. It probably won't be explain further than that.

the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot...
I see where you're coming from. I like Mirio a lot myself but it's true that it's starting to look more and more like he's just being used as a mere prop for Midoriya's development. Regardless of what happens to him, I hope he sticks around and doesn't just disappear into the background after this arc.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Sapewloth said:
Kuma said:
she can't, yes, but how "they" (yakuza) selectiving "rewind" quirck to only use it to "deleting" quirck?
I think they used some bullshit science to make Eri's quirk specifically target the quirk factors so that it would be the only part of the target's body that gets rewinded. It probably won't be explain further than that.


aren't quirck is in blood? hence why they also taking eri blood?

also, pls god no... i was promised BnHA is not that kind of battle shounen...



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the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot...
I see where you're coming from. I like Mirio a lot myself but it's true that it's starting to look more and more like he's just being used as a mere prop for Midoriya's development. Regardless of what happens to him, I hope he sticks around and doesn't just disappear into the background after this arc.


i see it as soon nighteye was really dickish about it... and yes, it's driven me nuts... i would mad if he dissapear, but it's unevitable, it's either mirio quirck back or he dissapear... lose lose...
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I can't help thinking that Eri is gonna be the path to atleast stop All Might from dying with probably some unknown consequence to her ability.

God damn must admit I love the writers ability to make these great moments which feel real heroic :D
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Kuma said:


she can't, yes, but how "they" (yakuza) selectiving "rewind" quirck to only use it to "deleting" quirck?
Idk. All we know is that they've been experimenting on her to reach that point and overhaul is a person that can fix her body up to how he wants it
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@Kuma

"the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot..."


Well that's clearly not working seeing as how hard people sympathized and liked him in his fight against overhaul.
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she can't, yes, but how "they" (yakuza) selectiving "rewind" quirck to only use it to "deleting" quirck?
Idk. All we know is that they've been experimenting on her to reach that point and overhaul is a person that can fix her body up to how he wants it

that's overhaul quirck, has nothing to do with serum and eri power...

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@Kuma

"the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot..."


Well that's clearly not working seeing as how hard people sympathized and liked him in his fight against overhaul.
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@Kuma

"the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot..."


Well that's clearly not working seeing as how hard people sympathized and liked him in his fight against overhaul.


no, that's why make it worse, mirio actually really good character...
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Kuma said:


the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot...


No? The whole point of this arc was to showcase that Mirio was just as worthy of the mantle as Deku and the only reason Eri awoken to her quirk is because of his actions. Its was never a competition to see who was better but for Deku to prove to Nighteye that All Might made the right decision. The whole Eri debate...you guys really need to let this go, the manga already hinted that she processed a strong quirk (even the meaning of her name means "destruction") and the way how it was used as a compound for the quirk erasing bullets makes sense now, the setup to showcase Deku's debut as a hero to the public couldn't be better than him going all out when he couldn't have done so before and given how unstable Eri's quirk is it will not be used again.
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Kuma said:


the whole mirio introduction is plot convnience to make deku looks better... i don't hate mirio, i don't hate deku, i just hate how mirio is used blatantly for deku developement...

as for eri, ehh... yeah, she overly abused for plot...


No? The whole point of this arc was to showcase that Mirio was just as worthy of the mantle as Deku and the only reason Eri awoken to her quirk is because of his actions. Its was never a competition to see who was better but for Deku to prove to Nighteye that All Might made the right decision.


exactly, aren't it that make mirio character really wasted potential? he can be part of really important character who actually has his own development, advanture, and purpose, but nah... introduce him in the most convinience time possible to make deku somewhat inferrior so need to proof himself to make reader investing their feelings towars both, give them lot flashback rather than actual development of him, then sacrifice it in the best way possible? i admit it's all wrap up really nicely one per one... but when it combined, it simply doesn't works for me because how obvious it is make me refuse to attached to mirio character as much as i like him since beginning and here we are...

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The whole Eri debate...you guys really need to let this go, the manga already hinted that she processed a strong quirk (even the meaning of her name means "destruction") and the way how it was used as a compound for the quirk erasing bullets makes sense now, the setup to showcase Deku's debut as a hero to the public couldn't be better than him going all out when he couldn't have done so before and given how unstable Eri's quirk is it will not be used again.


well, it's obvious duh... i only complain how author explain it really doesn't make sense, read my post again... and why i said eri abused for plot is not because her power, but how incosistencies her choices... yes, she is affraid and confused, but the timing from no trust to has little to back to dispair, then a medium hope, then despair again, then fully trust is just, soo annoying to see...

and again, i wouldn't complain much if it isn't BnHA, but becuase this is BnHA that i used love turned the way differently than what make me used to love it...
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deku using Eri's quirk to constantly using 100%, I like that idea.
he keep destroying his body so he wouldn't revert to nothingness.
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umm,the whole end point of the manga is to get deku to fight at 100% withour reprecussions ,so peoplelosing their shit at him doing so is amazing to me obviously this is not going to last since the author hazs already started to stretch the manga(all side chara (old and introducing new) getting their fights and plot moving to yakuza instead of focusing on league),and knowing this is the endpoint ,making this state permananent means the end of his manga and he's smart enough to not do that ,so people calm your tits plz
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Deku's gone through so many experiences that left him fighting even on the verge of death so it was awesome to see that he had now found a way to go all-out against Overhaul without experiencing the setbacks if he pulls it off correctly. It might've looked like every single risk had been nullified but he needs to do it perfectly while keeping Eri on his back the whole time.

She's too convenient of a character because her power can solve everyone's problems like All Might's long-term issues but I'm pretty sure that he would deny getting her help since the next generation would never even attempt to build the foundations for the new Symbol of Peace if that happens. I hope she saves Nighteye and restores Deku's arm but it'll also be unlikely that he'd have her do that since it's a reminder for him to be careful at all times.








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Holy shit a controlled 100%?!?

Chisaki's new form looks even more grotesque (and menacing)

Honestly, Eri's quirk is overpowered, to say the least. If and when she learns to control it, she'll be healing people like there's no tomorrow. She'll have the potential to go pro tbh.

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Midoriya's first time going 100% without turning himself to mush, LET'S GOOOOO.

That Nomu punch didn't count because it's shock absorption quirk.
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This was Deku's peak atleast till now!
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