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Dec 23, 2016 6:03 PM
#1
Made for adults? [Polar Bear Cafe]Sexual?[Golden Boy] Blood and gore? [Tokyo Ghoul] Covers a topic kids wouldn't understand as well? [Neon Genesis Evangelion] Actually features something adult done in an adult way? [Wolf Children] Anime that cover a dark subject in a way that is understandable to kids? [Full Moon wo Sagashite] Or does it just have a cool mature atmosphere? [Cowboy Bebop] |
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Dec 23, 2016 6:08 PM
#2
Oh boy. Short answer Is it an anime that you need prior knowledge to watch? Is it an anime you need prior experience to watch? What does the anime ask from the viewer in terms of engagement? Subject matters can be inherently mature for the eyes, but to be mature in thought, an anime needs to speak to viewers like they're equally mature. If an anime has to spoonfeed and handhold throughout its narrative, then it probably wasn't geared towards a mature audience whom should be acquainted with a number of subject matters already. Kids mature for their ages, immature adults, kids watching shows violent and sexual in nature to appear more mature, adults capable of watching kid shows because they're old enough to not care about the idea of "maturity," etc. Long answer |
Dec 23, 2016 6:17 PM
#3
Shocked said: Oh boy. Short answer Is it an anime that you need prior knowledge to watch? Is it an anime you need prior experience to watch? What does the anime ask from the viewer in terms of engagement? Subject matters can be inherently mature for the eyes, but to be mature in thought, an anime needs to speak to viewers like they're equally mature. If an anime has to spoonfeed and handhold throughout its narrative, then it probably wasn't geared towards a mature audience whom should be acquainted with a number of subject matters already. Kids mature for their ages, immature adults, kids watching shows violent and sexual in nature to appear more mature, adults capable of watching kid shows because they're old enough to not care about the idea of "maturity," etc. Long answer I dig both those answers because I have been feeling it. Not that I don't enjoy mindless anime. I just find it hard to wrap my head around what is mature when anime fans say that then say they like Elfin Lied. Nothing wrong with liking what you like. guess they mean the rating on the tv rather than how subject matter is dealt with. Because when I think of maturity, I think of an anime like Wolf Children. |
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Dec 23, 2016 6:26 PM
#4
@Shocked Ohh boy... Doesn't this look familiar to you? xD Anyway, maturity for me doesn't do anything about it's grotesque or gore-ish style; presentation in how it is viewed. What makes some series mature, or stands-out from others is that, the theme it tackles are just so unique you can basically apply it to human nature; as a whole in terms of action and decision, stuff like that. Although, if such series do exist, I will or at least probably wouldn't like it as how I would enjoy CGDCT. Just a personal thing. I have nothing against mature- either in art or theme, but the enjoyment it gives to me is not as much as how CGDCT offers it. In short, in some ways, mature series are not generally for "kids" because, well either the theme are hard to grasp or the artstyle is gore; not appropriate to children under certain age. And, to some it all up, I don't care just what the fuck it is, if I get bored of it, I will eventually and drop it, regardless of its demographics. |
Dec 23, 2016 6:39 PM
#5
An anime with multilayered messages sprinkled across the anime that most kids wouldn't comprehend. Like the value of life, consequences, the right to choose, and etc. For example, Avatar was a kids cartoon but had a lot of mature themes. It appealed to a wide range of ages. There are adult shows that can be immature and kid shows that can be mature. And vice versa. P.S. I know Avatar isn't an anime. It was just the first thing that crossed my mind for using as an example. |
Dec 23, 2016 6:45 PM
#6
For me a mature story isn't the one with lots of blood and sex like Elfen Led, a mature story (in this case anime) is the one who includes dark or complicated topics like depression, existentialism, violence, etc. and treats them in a serious way, for example Welcome to the NHK deals with depression in a serious and realistic way, portraying depression in his true form making easy to relate. On the other side shows that deal with this type of themes in a unrealistic way aren't mature just because the themes, also blood, Gore and sex doesn't really make a show mature it just makes it explicit. As a summarize I can say that what really makes a story mature aren't just the dark themes, is the way how it deals with them. |
Dec 23, 2016 6:51 PM
#7
I don't watch anime to seek maturity or those types of theme so the way maturity is portayed never bothered me. I watch anime for what it is and enjoy it for what it is. |
Dec 23, 2016 6:56 PM
#8
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: I dig both those answers because I have been feeling it. Not that I don't enjoy mindless anime. I just find it hard to wrap my head around what is mature when anime fans say that then say they like Elfin Lied. Nothing wrong with liking what you like. guess they mean the rating on the tv rather than how subject matter is dealt with. Because when I think of maturity, I think of an anime like Wolf Children. The issue comes down to defensiveness and the self-assurance that what we watch is, in fact, justifiable in the eyes of others and to ourselves. That somehow, the quickest ways to assert that what we're watching is serious stuff is to mention things that have mature content in terms of graphic content. In some ways, it's a symptom of some current trend I can't qualify where we must limit our conversations to the bare minimum. "Essentially," "basically," twitter post character count limits, meme images, the ability to give elevator speeches, 30 second commercials, billboard and advertisement design - a lot of things feel condensed down to only what is necessary to gain an understanding of something, even if sacrifices a lot of complexity to do so. As I see it, in terms of anime, you run into the issue of trying to quickly portray the image of anime being mature, which uses gritty imagery with equally gritty subject matters. That's not to say that graphic content can't also be mature in thought, but when isolated, can it really be something mature in thought if you can describe it in a singular words or phrases? |
Dec 23, 2016 6:56 PM
#9
It's just a dumb buzzword for ppl to claim they watch anime that isn't for kids, which ofc, most anime isn't -____- |
Dec 23, 2016 7:03 PM
#10
EcchiLordMamster said: It's just a dumb buzzword for ppl to claim they watch anime that isn't for kids, which ofc, most anime isn't -____- Lol. In this one, to be honest maturity does different in a certain range, the only reason why some people think its some kind of a "bad" connotation is how they seem to connect the word to some kind of Elitism, which by itself is where things go wrong. Maturity comes from, many form, and of course nudity is in that category, well well, there's no need for us to look deeper into that don't we? xD When people associate different things to a somewhat negative stuff, shitty stuff always happens, in which I tend to dislike and frown upon. @Shocked Is-is that... Wow... kawaii Onee-chan... |
Dec 23, 2016 7:04 PM
#11
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Shocked said: Oh boy. Short answer Is it an anime that you need prior knowledge to watch? Is it an anime you need prior experience to watch? What does the anime ask from the viewer in terms of engagement? Subject matters can be inherently mature for the eyes, but to be mature in thought, an anime needs to speak to viewers like they're equally mature. If an anime has to spoonfeed and handhold throughout its narrative, then it probably wasn't geared towards a mature audience whom should be acquainted with a number of subject matters already. Kids mature for their ages, immature adults, kids watching shows violent and sexual in nature to appear more mature, adults capable of watching kid shows because they're old enough to not care about the idea of "maturity," etc. Long answer I dig both those answers because I have been feeling it. Not that I don't enjoy mindless anime. I just find it hard to wrap my head around what is mature when anime fans say that then say they like Elfin Lied. Nothing wrong with liking what you like. guess they mean the rating on the tv rather than how subject matter is dealt with. Because when I think of maturity, I think of an anime like Wolf Children. This is an interesting point. I consider myself somewhat critical, but I find maturity is how you perceive a show. If you can look at the show from different perspectives and how you take in the information is what strikes me. As example, I felt Elfen lied in terms of questioning the system and its strategies in displaying segregation and self expression were done in a far more mature fashion than other shows |
Dec 23, 2016 7:06 PM
#12
_Ako_ said: EcchiLordMamster said: It's just a dumb buzzword for ppl to claim they watch anime that isn't for kids, which ofc, most anime isn't -____- Lol. In this one, to be honest maturity does different in a certain range, the only reason why some people think its some kind of a "bad" connotation is how they seem to connect the word to some kind of Elitism, which by itself is where things go wrong. Maturity comes from, many form, and of course nudity is in that category, well well, there's no need for us to look deeper into that don't we? xD When people associate different things to a somewhat negative stuff, shitty stuff always happens, in which I tend to dislike and frown upon. @Shocked Is-is that... Wow... kawaii Onee-chan... That's definitely the definition that seems to come off lol |
Dec 23, 2016 7:12 PM
#13
In which users just suddenly jumped-out and go on "happy trigger mode", irrationally thinking about shit but in the end, they're just too butthurt. I'd rather associate "maturity" from my perspective, in a sense that I will grasp a series in how I want it to seen in my own eyes regardless of how users/people see it. In the end, it's about how users see it and how they want others to affect them. I'm done. I've said my piece. |
Dec 23, 2016 7:13 PM
#14
Mll23 said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Shocked said: Oh boy. Short answer Is it an anime that you need prior knowledge to watch? Is it an anime you need prior experience to watch? What does the anime ask from the viewer in terms of engagement? Subject matters can be inherently mature for the eyes, but to be mature in thought, an anime needs to speak to viewers like they're equally mature. If an anime has to spoonfeed and handhold throughout its narrative, then it probably wasn't geared towards a mature audience whom should be acquainted with a number of subject matters already. Kids mature for their ages, immature adults, kids watching shows violent and sexual in nature to appear more mature, adults capable of watching kid shows because they're old enough to not care about the idea of "maturity," etc. Long answer I dig both those answers because I have been feeling it. Not that I don't enjoy mindless anime. I just find it hard to wrap my head around what is mature when anime fans say that then say they like Elfin Lied. Nothing wrong with liking what you like. guess they mean the rating on the tv rather than how subject matter is dealt with. Because when I think of maturity, I think of an anime like Wolf Children. This is an interesting point. I consider myself somewhat critical, but I find maturity is how you perceive a show. If you can look at the show from different perspectives and how you take in the information is what strikes me. As example, I felt Elfen lied in terms of questioning the system and its strategies in displaying segregation and self expression were done in a far more mature fashion than other shows This is so true. I'm basicly an expert at litterary analysis (jk I've only taken a class on it) and I see it as more being about how you view the [anime], so one person could watch elfen lied and just see sex and violence, while another person could see much more, because their personal experiances and views interacted with the story differently. |
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Dec 23, 2016 7:15 PM
#15
Maturity has lost its meaning in the context of anime. Anything with gore or nudity can be considered "mature". |
Dec 23, 2016 7:22 PM
#16
_Ako_ said: In which users just suddenly jumped-out and go on "happy trigger mode", irrationally thinking about shit but in the end, they're just too butthurt. I'd rather associate "maturity" from my perspective, in a sense that I will grasp a series in how I want it to seen in my own eyes regardless of how users/people see it. In the end, it's about how users see it and how they want others to affect them. I'm done. I've said my piece. Well, i mean... you're not wrong lol |
Dec 23, 2016 7:27 PM
#17
all girls high school slice of life you need to be a mature otonashii adult to understand it |
Dec 23, 2016 7:27 PM
#18
Styrke said: Maturity has lost its meaning in the context of anime. Anything with gore or nudity can be considered "mature". Lol... Are you saying that just because the protagonist died, it is tragedy? In that sense, as the time passes by? Quite true and funny, actually...xD |
Dec 23, 2016 7:29 PM
#19
Shows like Showa Rakugo,Space Brothers,Nana and 5 Centimeter Per Second are example of mature anime to me. In fact, 5 Centimeter Per Second is praised and single out as anime completely for adult. They are down to earth. Natsuki Imai, a Japanese television and film director known for her 2007 film Koizora, views 5 Centimeters Per Second as a film "completely for adults even though it is an anime".[31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second#Reception Naah,I wouldn't consider Cowboy bebop for adult. Not at all. |
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Dec 23, 2016 7:33 PM
#20
Zapredon said: Shows like Showa Rakugo,Space Brothers,Nana and 5 Centimeter Per Second are example of mature anime to me. In fact, 5 Centimeter Per Second is praised and single out as anime completely for adult. They are down to earth. Natsuki Imai, a Japanese television and film director known for her 2007 film Koizora, views 5 Centimeters Per Second as a film "completely for adults even though it is an anime".[31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second#Reception Naah,I wouldn't consider Cowboy bebop for adult. Not at all. Funny story, I started this topic because a guy told me he thought Trigun and Bebop were more adult than Evangelion and NHK. Further that Eva was only for young teenagers. |
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Dec 23, 2016 7:42 PM
#21
Extect said: Mll23 said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Shocked said: Oh boy. Short answer Is it an anime that you need prior knowledge to watch? Is it an anime you need prior experience to watch? What does the anime ask from the viewer in terms of engagement? Subject matters can be inherently mature for the eyes, but to be mature in thought, an anime needs to speak to viewers like they're equally mature. If an anime has to spoonfeed and handhold throughout its narrative, then it probably wasn't geared towards a mature audience whom should be acquainted with a number of subject matters already. Kids mature for their ages, immature adults, kids watching shows violent and sexual in nature to appear more mature, adults capable of watching kid shows because they're old enough to not care about the idea of "maturity," etc. Long answer I dig both those answers because I have been feeling it. Not that I don't enjoy mindless anime. I just find it hard to wrap my head around what is mature when anime fans say that then say they like Elfin Lied. Nothing wrong with liking what you like. guess they mean the rating on the tv rather than how subject matter is dealt with. Because when I think of maturity, I think of an anime like Wolf Children. This is an interesting point. I consider myself somewhat critical, but I find maturity is how you perceive a show. If you can look at the show from different perspectives and how you take in the information is what strikes me. As example, I felt Elfen lied in terms of questioning the system and its strategies in displaying segregation and self expression were done in a far more mature fashion than other shows This is so true. I'm basicly an expert at litterary analysis (jk I've only taken a class on it) and I see it as more being about how you view the [anime], so one person could watch elfen lied and just see sex and violence, while another person could see much more, because their personal experiances and views interacted with the story differently. Well said! Yeah, to me, im touched by some shows and not others. Some work hard to spell it out for you, while others let you decide how to feel. I think the best shows are the ones where you decide if it hits your emotional convictions or not |
Dec 23, 2016 7:42 PM
#22
If it focus on serious things, it could be sexually, mentally or stuff where adult could relate. |
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Dec 23, 2016 7:44 PM
#23
I think a great example is Madoka magica. You could see it as just another magical girl show, or see it about the true extent one gives up themselves every time they care for another. If you see it for the emotion, and the complexity of rewriting the world, to further benefit those you love, the show is quite mature. |
Dec 23, 2016 7:48 PM
#24
Zapredon said: Shows like Showa Rakugo,Space Brothers,Nana and 5 Centimeter Per Second are example of mature anime to me. In fact, 5 Centimeter Per Second is praised and single out as anime completely for adult. They are down to earth. Natsuki Imai, a Japanese television and film director known for her 2007 film Koizora, views 5 Centimeters Per Second as a film "completely for adults even though it is an anime".[31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second#Reception Naah,I wouldn't consider Cowboy bebop for adult. Not at all. sure 5 centimeter for second is the epithome of maturity if by that you mean it being about two liveless robots pretending to be humans in a movie that pretends to be about the extremes of human emotions but denies to give any caracterization or depth to any of its characters something that would be really necessary to make me slight care for what is going on |
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Dec 24, 2016 12:06 AM
#25
It means that it explores its themes and subjects from various viewpoints, doesn't take things for granted, recognizes every character is the hero of their own story, doesn't make the story for easy gratification or escapism. Digimon Tamers is a kids' anime and fits this extremely well. |
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Dec 24, 2016 12:09 AM
#26
A mature anime, as far as I'm concerned, should generally have at least some degree of subtlety and should ideally not be all "show-offey" with regards to its darker subject matter/themes. |
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Dec 24, 2016 7:51 AM
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Dec 24, 2016 8:03 AM
#28
cute grills doing cute things, because only adults would enjoy looking at underage girls with happy face. if you know what i mean ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ |
Dec 24, 2016 8:52 AM
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Dec 24, 2016 1:09 PM
#30
Ecchi, blood and gore attract younger viewers, because sex is funny, blood is cool and gore is exciting. I'd say anime that deal with problems that a kid will never expierience are "mature", for example parenting (Usagi Drop), heavy psychological shows that require human knowledge or any show similiar to that and probably the setting. I would prefer a college setting, over the highschool setting and also the age of the characters, all those moeshows aside, I rather follow a grownup MC than a 14 YO boy. |
Dec 24, 2016 1:58 PM
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Dec 24, 2016 2:06 PM
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Dec 24, 2016 2:43 PM
#33
Like the one in a hundred show in this medium that takes itself seriously |
Dec 24, 2016 3:04 PM
#34
XIIIRed said: Like the one in a hundred show in this medium that takes itself seriously And the show that show was not Samurai Flamenco. Man did that show divide my anime club recently. lol. I did love it though. |
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Dec 24, 2016 3:27 PM
#35
Tea ceremonies are the most mature thing thanks to Hyouge Mono |
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Dec 24, 2016 5:29 PM
#36
Allows viewer to think for themselves. No over saturation of pathos. Provides insight on a moral issue. Pays attention to detail of the setting, and stays consistent with its logic. Characters that are multi-faceted and complex. |
Dec 24, 2016 6:35 PM
#37
It has themes or content targeted towards adults, which could be anything from: -Extreme violence and gore -Nudity and sexual situations -Pornography -Raunchy sexual humor -Complex subject matter children probably wouldn't understand or would be bored by -Contains subject matter that is deemed culturally "taboo" for exploring the darker side of human nature that children are generally sheltered from -Shows about adults doing things adults do like going to work, college, maintaining relationships, raising children, managing economic finances, etc. |
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