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FlamingMangos said: I find it funny that the people who really find the show bad are the ones making the discussion lively here. Usually when I find a show bad, I just drop the show and perhaps leave one comment and forget about it right away and move on watching other good shit. There are differences between One-off shows and the franchises. The fans of franchises will always be present and lively, be they happy or disappointed with a certain member of the franchise. |
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| Never much of a shipper or anything, so the romance side of this show, as non-existent as it was, never really bothered me. What I do have to say though, is that this was by far one of the worst explained/choreographed/planned Macross shows I have ever seen. The asspulling went through the roof with this one. Explain to me, why the fuck would the power of one regular Joe of a human be able to break through the mind control of Roid there for long enough to get his message across to the woman he loved??? If love was the sole ingredient for breaking through the mind-fuck, why the fuck would NO ONE ELSE in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE be able to do it? I doubt their love was anything more special than anyone else's love. So why the fuck was he able to pull it off when the rest of the entire universe fell prey? I call complete utter bullshit. The power of MC pulled straight out of the directors ass yet again saves the day. Also explain to me just what makes Freyja so special that she technically pulled what only Royalty Windermerian's could do, getting their people "un-brainwashed"? And how Roid was unable to suck them back in after they broke free was beyond my comprehension. Was Mikumo's star singer power that useless that it couldn't even do that? Considering how powerful and feared she was suppose to be, that's a contradiction in terms by itself. Also don't buy the "power of love triumphs all" bullshit. They never even bothered to explain why Freyja was able to do it when the rest of Walkure and even the Ariel Knights got caught up in Roid's brain-drain. The fuck makes HER so special that she could rival her own King? Then there's the issue of mortality. Last two episodes indicated that those suites that the Walkure were wearing could be sliced through by mere sniper bullets. Yet this and every single fucking episode before this has the enemy throwing everything at them, Lasers, Missiles, Mortars, Mechs, the works, and yet NONE of them emerge with even a spec of dirt on them. Seriously, what the fuck? How is it that the suits couldn't stop a sniper bullet then? The power of sub charas is just as scary as that of MCs here. Third, Roid's reasoning for taking over Mikumo was laughable at best. So he plugs himself into a machine, sets her off to sing and suddenly he becomes a god??? If that were so easily achieved, why the fuck did the ancient Protoculture not do so in the first place? No explinations at all, and no explinations as to why Roid would even know how to power the damn thing.... Fourth. No conclusion as to what the fuck happens to the corrupt UN faction and not even an appearance from Lady M. No conclusion to what happens to the Windermerians either. They are still technically at war with the rest of the galaxy. But nooo, we get no conclusion at all, just Hayate and an apparently deathly ill Freyja riding off into the Ragna sunset. Plus, why the fuck do I even care about Chuck finding his completely banged up sister anyway? It's not like they developed their characters so much that I actually gave a shit when she got stuck on their world. Seriously too much bullshit and poor asspulling to this series. Worst, most unimpressive and totally senseless Macross I've had to watch thus far, and even the Minmay tidbit near the start by Mikumo couldn't save this show. Being a fan of the franchise ever since I sat through the first series with my best friend nearly 3 decades ago, I can't even believe they've fallen so far down with this one. This is utter bullshit at it's finest. The only thing I can and will praise for this episode? The logo animation at the beginning, that had all the workings of the Macross series of old. Just that, for fucks sake.... |
L-RyoshiSep 27, 2016 9:00 AM
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| I enjoyed the music very much, but quite sad that it didn't end with Hayate x Mirage. Oh well, at least my summer wasn't dull thanks to this show. Tbh, I felt like the ending was pretty much rushed since it's the last episode but oh well. I can focus on other shows now :D |
| Dafuq did I just watch? I've already ranted too much about how bad this Macross ended up being on multiple places so I just don't have the energy anymore but a lot of this sums up my thoughts too L-Ryoshi said: Never much of a shipper or anything, so the romance side of this show, as non-existent as it was, never really bothered me. What I do have to say though, is that this was by far one of the worst explained/choreographed/planned Macross shows I have ever seen. The asspulling went through the roof with this one. Explain to me, why the fuck would the power of one regular Joe of a human be able to break through the mind control of Roid there for long enough to get his message across to the woman he loved??? If love was the sole ingredient for breaking through the mind-fuck, why the fuck would NO ONE ELSE in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE be able to do it? I doubt their love was anything more special than anyone else's love. So why the fuck was he able to pull it off when the rest of the entire universe fell prey? I call complete utter bullshit. The power of MC pulled straight out of the directors ass yet again saves the day. Also explain to me just what makes Freyja so special that she technically pulled what only Royalty Windermerian's could do, getting their people "un-brainwashed"? And how Roid was unable to suck them back in after they broke free was beyond my comprehension. Was Mikumo's star singer power that useless that it couldn't even do that? Considering how powerful and feared she was suppose to be, that's a contradiction in terms by itself. Also don't buy the "power of love triumphs all" bullshit. They never even bothered to explain why Freyja was able to do it when the rest of Walkure and even the Ariel Knights got caught up in Roid's brain-drain. The fuck makes HER so special that she could rival her own King? Then there's the issue of mortality. Last two episodes indicated that those suites that the Walkure were wearing could be sliced through by mere sniper bullets. Yet this and every single fucking episode before this has the enemy throwing everything at them, Lasers, Missiles, Mortars, Mechs, the works, and yet NONE of them emerge with even a spec of dirt on them. Seriously, what the fuck? How is it that the suits couldn't stop a sniper bullet then? The power of sub charas is just as scary as that of MCs here. Third, Roid's reasoning for taking over Mikumo was laughable at best. So he plugs himself into a machine, sets her off to sing and suddenly he becomes a god??? If that were so easily achieved, why the fuck did the ancient Protoculture not do so in the first place? No explinations at all, and no explinations as to why Roid would even know how to power the damn thing.... Fourth. No conclusion as to what the fuck happens to the corrupt UN faction and not even an appearance from Lady M. No conclusion to what happens to the Windermerians either. They are still technically at war with the rest of the galaxy. But nooo, we get no conclusion at all, just Hayate and an apparently deathly ill Freyja riding off into the Ragna sunset. Plus, why the fuck do I even care about Chuck finding his completely banged up sister anyway? It's not like they developed their characters so much that I actually gave a shit when she got stuck on their world. Seriously too much bullshit and poor asspulling to this series. Worst, most unimpressive and totally senseless Macross I've had to watch thus far, and even the Minmay tidbit near the start by Mikumo couldn't save this show. Being a fan of the franchise ever since I sat through the first series with my best friend nearly 3 decades ago, I can't even believe they've fallen so far down with this one. This is utter bullshit at it's finest. The only thing I can and will praise for this episode? The logo animation at the beginning, that had all the workings of the Macross series of old. Just that, for fucks sake.... And let me just add to that how they literally did nothing to Mirage character and I'm not even discussing about on the romance side here since they clearly couldn't even handle that properly but on just some character development for her like I dunno, maybe her pilot skills gets better or her bloodline gets explored because her grandparents are pilot GODS basically but nope they didn't even touch upon that shit because fuck Mirage and her legacy. Nayrael said: FlamingMangos said: I find it funny that the people who really find the show bad are the ones making the discussion lively here. Usually when I find a show bad, I just drop the show and perhaps leave one comment and forget about it right away and move on watching other good shit. There are differences between One-off shows and the franchises. The fans of franchises will always be present and lively, be they happy or disappointed with a certain member of the franchise. Exactly, this is a long running franchise so ofc it's gonna get passionate in here and sadly this just ended up being the worst in it. silverwalls said: YES WE GOT A FREYJA X HAYATE ENDING THIS IS ALL I WANTED At this point I didn't really care because the romance in this was much worse developed than the previous one and I just don't mean the love triangle overall but also between Hayate and Freyja and she's gonna die much earlier than him so who cares anyways. |
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| liked the ending wished they incorporated more songs then were present this season in the last episode |
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| While definitely rushed, i though it was a good ending to a great series Im glad that i have gotten into macross 9/10 |
L-Ryoshi said: Never much of a shipper or anything, so the romance side of this show, as non-existent as it was, never really bothered me. What I do have to say though, is that this was by far one of the worst explained/choreographed/planned Macross shows I have ever seen. The asspulling went through the roof with this one. Explain to me, why the fuck would the power of one regular Joe of a human be able to break through the mind control of Roid there for long enough to get his message across to the woman he loved??? If love was the sole ingredient for breaking through the mind-fuck, why the fuck would NO ONE ELSE in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE be able to do it? I doubt their love was anything more special than anyone else's love. So why the fuck was he able to pull it off when the rest of the entire universe fell prey? I call complete utter bullshit. The power of MC pulled straight out of the directors ass yet again saves the day. Also explain to me just what makes Freyja so special that she technically pulled what only Royalty Windermerian's could do, getting their people "un-brainwashed"? And how Roid was unable to suck them back in after they broke free was beyond my comprehension. Was Mikumo's star singer power that useless that it couldn't even do that? Considering how powerful and feared she was suppose to be, that's a contradiction in terms by itself. Also don't buy the "power of love triumphs all" bullshit. They never even bothered to explain why Freyja was able to do it when the rest of Walkure and even the Ariel Knights got caught up in Roid's brain-drain. The fuck makes HER so special that she could rival her own King? Then there's the issue of mortality. Last two episodes indicated that those suites that the Walkure were wearing could be sliced through by mere sniper bullets. Yet this and every single fucking episode before this has the enemy throwing everything at them, Lasers, Missiles, Mortars, Mechs, the works, and yet NONE of them emerge with even a spec of dirt on them. Seriously, what the fuck? How is it that the suits couldn't stop a sniper bullet then? The power of sub charas is just as scary as that of MCs here. Third, Roid's reasoning for taking over Mikumo was laughable at best. So he plugs himself into a machine, sets her off to sing and suddenly he becomes a god??? If that were so easily achieved, why the fuck did the ancient Protoculture not do so in the first place? No explinations at all, and no explinations as to why Roid would even know how to power the damn thing.... Fourth. No conclusion as to what the fuck happens to the corrupt UN faction and not even an appearance from Lady M. No conclusion to what happens to the Windermerians either. They are still technically at war with the rest of the galaxy. But nooo, we get no conclusion at all, just Hayate and an apparently deathly ill Freyja riding off into the Ragna sunset. Plus, why the fuck do I even care about Chuck finding his completely banged up sister anyway? It's not like they developed their characters so much that I actually gave a shit when she got stuck on their world. Seriously too much bullshit and poor asspulling to this series. Worst, most unimpressive and totally senseless Macross I've had to watch thus far, and even the Minmay tidbit near the start by Mikumo couldn't save this show. Being a fan of the franchise ever since I sat through the first series with my best friend nearly 3 decades ago, I can't even believe they've fallen so far down with this one. This is utter bullshit at it's finest. The only thing I can and will praise for this episode? The logo animation at the beginning, that had all the workings of the Macross series of old. Just that, for fucks sake.... I don't even have the energy to rant anymore. I feel cheated tbh. @Tenth We waited 8 years from Frontier for this. Won't you feel sad. They start teasing the damn show at 2014. 2 years of hype for this. Oh well, the hype train comes to a wreck. |
| I'm a bit disappointed with this shows story telling. Mikumo development came too late in the series and all that being controlled and saved in two episodes what it did to me was that all the potentially emotional moments I largely felt got nowhere... and ended doing for me the opposite that the show was trying to convey to me, they felt flat. Some of the support characters felt like strangers (too simplified) and only interacted with each other when the plot required them to do so... The actions/battles scenes/choreografy (where were the real fights between skilled pilots?! I missed the cockpits explosions & enemy disintegration scenes Macross style [I think I spotted one or maybe two in this show]), the music songs inserted at the right time? They were too scarce for my liking. Ernest is a good tactician I was dissapointed because his past wasn’t explored aside from that picture shown in this show (he was alongside Gramia Nehrich Windermere)... What no kissing scenes?! Well that hug/embrace at the end will do... I hope Freyja can have under her circumstances a normal life. I also hope she and Hayate have offspring… Mirage aside from flash back tying ins I didn’t see her a well writing connection to his family name at that was a shame (the writers could have use the death of Messer as an character development tool for her) let’s say the data that Messer left about everyone flying she improved it specially Hayate's data (tying her to Messer - previous superior officer and surpassing him in terms of potential and flying instinct) thus the data that Hayate mention in this episode was improved by Mirage (Wingman & Wing-girl)… Unanswered Questions: 1.What is Hayate Collar made of? Why is so important (aside that is his late father memento)? 2.What happened to the Windermere kingdom? 3.Any closure to Kaname and Arad? Any progress to their relationship? 4.What happend to the corrupt UN faction? They are all dead? UN issues solved? 5.How much Berger knows? 6.Lady M? So many questions left unanswered... Dammit! I was actually expecting Lady M to make an appearance or even the legendary Megaroad 1 appearing here but I guess I was expecting too much for a final episode... |
Roy_FockerSep 28, 2016 9:39 PM
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| What a disappointment. As a final episode, it just regurgitated finales from Macross past with nothing new to add. Roids plan was exactly what Grace was planning in Frontier. Same kind of ending but less impressive animation and fighting choreography. Way to go Satelight! The first half of the series was ok, bu the second half was an absolute clusterfuck. Kawamori should be embarrased to put the Macross name to that. At one point it seemed that a lot of characters were just talking to fill up the 24 minutes and get on to the next episode. The members of the triangle were sorely underdeveloped and valuable screen time was wasted on fanservice characters like Makina or Reina who were only there to appeal to certain niches of the faptaku demographic. About the only character who felt properly developed was Kaname. What irks me the most is all this stupid azz retconning that Kawamori is doing post Macross Zero were everything has to do with the Protoculture and the Bird Human. Just stop. If the Protoculture's song weapon was so powerful, why the feck did they grow and produce those massive Zentran armies? It makes no sense. L-Ryoshi said: Seriously too much bullshit and poor asspulling to this series. Worst, most unimpressive and totally senseless Macross I've had to watch thus far, and even the Minmay tidbit near the start by Mikumo couldn't save this show. ... Being a fan of the franchise ever since I sat through the first series with my best friend nearly 3 decades ago, I can't even believe they've fallen so far down with this one. This is utter bullshit at it's finest. The only thing I can and will praise for this episode? The logo animation at the beginning, that had all the workings of the Macross series of old. Just that, for fucks sake.... Agreed. |
| Finally I can write my opinion based on this series. I think the songs including inserts/opening and ending is better than Macross Frontier. However for the anime series itself was rather decent/disappointing. Macross frontier had a much better plot and romance development and the ending for the last episode was rather rushed and crap as they have missed out a lot of important points. What the crystal pendant crystal that Hayate had and what happened to Freyja? In addition, the Walkure group, It seems to be like Freyja was the only important character and the other idols including Mikumo was just an extra character for something which I thought she be falling in love with Hayate which isn't even case. Overall, I rate it an overall 6/10, Loved the soundtracks but the plot and character was just plain and no development. |
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I agree Walkure songs saved this series but the character for the series is disappointment. Think of this way, everyone from Walkure including Mikumo except Freyja was an side character which they didn't seem to influence the series at all. Then suddenly Mikumo is known as the star singer and it just went from there which I didn't get any feel from the story or character |
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valvravetruth said: FlamingMangos said: 2nd wife? Are you this serious? Do you underestimate love and shame this much? You don't think Mirage will feel any shame being with the guy that lost his gf and that gf is also her best friend who died a horrible death? You don't think Hayate's love for Freyja is that strong that he just moves on and goes out with his best friend, Mirage? You watch too much anime really== and you need to relax. Taking a 2nd wife especially best friend with the husband and wife is common in real life. Plus I never said Hayate to take 2nd wife immediately, i did point out "thru time" means anything is possible. One true love is good and taking a 2nd time is not a shame at all, apologize to all the husband who marriage the 2nd time. Its called move on bro. You are the one that underestimate love and shame at the same time. You need to think 1st then write and whats with the "horrible death" in your post, You are seriously imagining even worse than what I post out. Horrible death, really? Under the scenario of Freyja last moment, she can actually ask Mirage to take care of Hayate whether as a best friend or wife and maybe even ask Hayate to marry Mirage. From then on its up to Hayate, 1 year or 10 years, a new love is possible. If that happens both Hayete Mirage will of course forever remember the love of Freyja, thats the bonds those 3 shared together. IF Hayate continue to only have one true love, then in fine with that. I don't think it happens in the Macross franchise as there is only 1 wife/girlfriend but with the bland personality Hayate had it maybe but all the characters were Bland and Freyja was the only one for him |
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| Delta was overall enjoyable, but it's never been nowhere near Plus, Zero or Frontier. "Hurr-durr-windurr", alternatively space nazi (attitude) swedish (drakens) russians (da!), bad guys or stepping back on small details, in visual department, from its predecessor (like often overlooked in anime directional propulsion, on the other hand fighters got thrust vectoring, so they got that going for them), is just a tip of an iceberg. Throughout the entire series it felt as if there was no clear plan for a good plot or the team didn't have enough funds. Small edit: I have to mention that my favourite part is with Mirage's snapshot when as a kid she climbed into a cockpit. |
desuminatorSep 27, 2016 1:41 PM
| Worst. Macross. EVER. Seriously, what an insult to the franchise. God-awful writing, mediocre music in a series that is meant to thrive on the stuff, characters who were literally just put there for filler, enemies with laughable motives, poor explanations, and none of that Macross Magic. The best part of the entire show was the flashback to little Freyja singing Ai Oboete imasu ka. |
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| Well...that's one disappointment done. I'm really sad that my first time watching a Macross as it has aired(watched every other series after a friend got me started with Frontier) was this. It started out great, a little weak at times, but overall decent enough. The second half was horrible. Before this started, I told my friend that I really wanted to see an entry with a female pilot for a main character, especially as part of the love triangle. Then we learn more about Delta. She's a Jenuis to boot. I thought this was going to be amazing. And even with her lack of real development, she was still the highlight of me watching it(well, besides Mikumo) and yet... she got shafted so much. She loses the Triangle(or what there is of it), she spends most of her time as nothing more than a glorified back ground character, and when . So yes. This was a severe disappointment. My only consolation is that Mikumo is a real good singer, and I love these songs. I just wish the writer (not Kawamori, he's more the big picture guy) wasn't such a shit about this. Time to wait another 10 years for a TV series. I hope the movies save this though. |
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| Disappointed. I will rewatch Macross DYRL to forget this one, Macross Frontier wasn't a masterpiece but i enjoyed it more especially the songs. Su much potential wasted on Mirage. |
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NeoRevan said: I hope the movies save this though. ^ i was thinking the same yes, please |
FlamingMangos said: Fai said: Officially worst macross. I guess he had to make a macross where DogHairRanka wins to appease the fanbois who were salty that actual better option won in Frontier. Well at least Freya will die soon, so Hayate won't h ave to suffer the genki girl syndrome forever. I wish that was the ony problem with this show. But Delta has way too many problems - Mirage got robbed of characterization. Considering her family backstory and everything she got nothing. - We know literally nothing about most of characters in the show. Even the supposed main love interest Freya has literally nothing going for her except "I am really happy all t he time and really love singing y'all!!11oneone". Even Ranka, with all of her insufferable personality had more effort put into her. - Hayate is a non-character. He started interesting and then NOTHING happened to his character. What are his beliefs? Does he have beliefs? How did he change? We know nothing. The fact that he randomly confesses to a girl without showing any emotions towards any of them till now just highlights the problem. - The whole second half of the show baring few episodes was a trainwrecky mess. - This had worst villains Macross ever had. Literally. Could not give a shit about Windies at all. 8/10 for first half of the show 4/10 for second half of the show. Overall rating: 5/10 This is said by the person who support bad writing like tradition. The hypocrisy. How much do you want to bet that you would have a lot more positive impression on the show if it followed traditions? You can clearly see the salt in your post. Fai said: P.S Any newcomers to the franchise - just go watch Macross Frontier. It is far more satisfying and fulfilling experience than this mess. It still has songs and all the mecha fighting alongside those songs, but it also happens to have actual complex characters, a protagonist with a personal journey, a good romance and actually well done pacing. "Please watch Macross Frontier because it follows traditions unlike Delta!" THIS ^^^^^ Best Post ever Totally agree with it!!!! Even if Kawamori-sensei decided to give more story development to the characters especially between Haya x Mira but choose to break the "Macros Tradition" by making Haya end up with Fre many people would still be salty as fuck. From the start Freyja was destined to be with Hayate no question there. The problem here is people keep calling the show shit because the plot wall over the place, characters were treating poorly especially Mirage but I'm 100% sure if Mirage won at the end people wouldn't be bitchng as much as they are now :/ I know people will say it's not true but I know for a fact it is and no one will tell me otherwise. Anywasy OMF the whole episode had me like this especially after Haya confessed to is precious Fre <3 *cries*  Everything about it was perfect I can't complain about anything my fucken otp got together at the it cant any better then that , take that Mirage :'D  IF I COULD RATE MORE THEN A 1O I WOULD BUT MAL DOESN'T ALLOW IT SO A 10 FOR ME !! Heard on GG website that there's a rumor about a sequel happening hoping its true I wanna see what happens in the aftermath wanna know if Haya and Fre marry and have kids but most of all a fucken a kiss between them D: Anyways Kawamori-sensei pleaseee start working on a sequel for delta or Aquarion Evol please I want more Mecha/Romance anime from you ^_^ |
-Janet said: Heard on GG website that there's a rumor about a sequel happening hoping its true I wanna see what happens in the aftermath wanna know if Haya and Fre marry and have kids but most of all a fucken a kiss between them D: just seeing all the stuf that they left out it may be a posibility i saw the last episode and i thought this needs another season (a better one hopefuly) and maybe they can change this big mess they made in this last 13 episodes i started seeing the macross saga because delta, i knew about it but i never saw it, i have to say that frontier was k (better done than this one, yes, the movies help it a lot) but delta had something special that they couldn't manage and use in their benefits, i think the characters were more charismatics but they didn't give them a good story to envolve ahhh damn delta u_u |
| Started off promising but the 2nd half was shit they spent too much time on uncesserary bullshit and rushed the ending plus they picked a horrible heroine. |
-Janet said: Heard on GG website that there's a rumor about a sequel happening hoping its true I wanna see what happens in the aftermath wanna know if Haya and Fre marry and have kids but most of all a fucken a kiss between them D: I don't think Freyja survived if you saw what happened. Though if there was a sequel, it needs to be tidied with character development and plot with action |
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Renaultclio101 said: -Janet said: Heard on GG website that there's a rumor about a sequel happening hoping its true I wanna see what happens in the aftermath wanna know if Haya and Fre marry and have kids but most of all a fucken a kiss between them D: I don't think Freyja survived if you saw what happened. Though if there was a sequel, it needs to be tidied with character development and plot with action She reduced her lifespan but i think she has at least 5-8 years before dying. |
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| For a brief moment i thought we'll finally see something epic, when the Elysion class started to transform, then it started to "dance" on the water, and i lost lost all hope. Other than that it's an average mecha, and crap amongst other Macross titles. It's still better than Macross 7 though. 6/10. |
Vargr said: For a brief moment i thought we'll finally see something epic, when the Elysion class started to transform, then it started to "dance" on the water, and i lost lost all hope. Other than that it's an average mecha, and crap amongst other Macross titles. It's still better than Macross 7 though. 6/10. I feel kinda offended since I consider M7 to be a decent show (crap ending though). Plus, Delta has less mecha than your average mecha Gundam. How about that? |
YK97Sep 27, 2016 4:15 PM
| so Macross Delta is like the season 2 of the Vajra (Macross Frontier) concept of hive mind or universal fuse consciousness of all living beings, i enjoyed it but for the love triangle it breaks the tradition of the childish girl not winning i still like Mirage better than Freyja despite Mirage barely have meaningful dialog and screen time |
SakurasouBusters said: While definitely rushed, i though it was a good ending to a great series Im glad that i have gotten into macross 9/10 I'm glad that you took interest in this franchise. I would suggest you watch other series and then come back to express your opinion on this show. :) |
alterzero said: j0x said: so Macross Delta is like the season 2 of the Vajra (Macross Frontier) concept of hive mind or universal fuse consciousness of all living beings, i enjoyed it but for the love triangle it breaks the tradition of the childish girl not winning i still like Mirage better than Freyja despite Mirage barely have meaningful dialog and screen time Who cares about tradition!(i don't) Shoji wanted OTP. Sponsors wanted love triangle. It would have been more believable if he was able to OTP. As much as i love the cutest girl in macross winning, she won it too smoothly since the sponsors probably must have said love triangle without specifying what kind of love triangle. Shoji v sponsors: one-sided love triangle since it's still a love triangle. Mirage was soooo bad despite the little moments she felt more like a fellow combatant than a friend(yes she's definitely less than a friend) . Freyja won by a ratio of 100:1 i do not care, i still like Mirage without much reason other than i like underdogs on romance besides the first Macross we saw Lisa (the underdog) won against Lynn Minmay too anyway i do not mind if Freyja won at all, im just a fan of characters like Mirage |
YK97 said: Vargr said: For a brief moment i thought we'll finally see something epic, when the Elysion class started to transform, then it started to "dance" on the water, and i lost lost all hope. Other than that it's an average mecha, and crap amongst other Macross titles. It's still better than Macross 7 though. 6/10. I feel kinda offended since I consider M7 to be a decent show (crap ending though). Plus, Delta has less mecha than your average mecha Gundam. How about that? I don't know how is that supposed to make up for all the faults that show had. Starting from the crappy animation, through the annoying mc, to the crap plot. There is most likely more to it than i can remember, as i've seen a thousand other title since 7. On a side note, while gundam and macross might take up a huge slice of the mecha pie (well, mainly Gundam), theres a lot more to this genre than just this 2 brand. |
alterzero said: j0x said: i do not care, i still like Mirage without much reason other than i like underdogs on romance besides the first Macross we saw Lisa (the underdog) won against Lynn Minmay too anyway i do not mind if Freyja won at all, im just a fan of characters like Mirage Take note i editted my post in case you misunderstood the mirage is sooo bad part cuz i meant her involvement in love triangle was bad. She was mercilessly sidelined i still do not care, im simply a fan of underdog characters especially in romance |
| Going to miss my weekly Walkure! They're just amazinggggg. Got some of the songs on my phone. Show was iffy sometimes but overall pretty good. 6.5/10 |
YK97 said: SakurasouBusters said: While definitely rushed, i though it was a good ending to a great series Im glad that i have gotten into macross 9/10 I'm glad that you took interest in this franchise. I would suggest you watch other series and then come back to express your opinion on this show. :) I am fairly easy to please, so im sure ill still enjoy it, but ive been watching the original Macross as well, and i do like it better than Delta, is there a particular Macross series that is your favorite |
Vargr said: YK97 said: I feel kinda offended since I consider M7 to be a decent show (crap ending though). Plus, Delta has less mecha than your average mecha Gundam. How about that? I don't know how is that supposed to make up for all the faults that show had. Starting from the crappy animation, through the annoying mc, to the crap plot. There is most likely more to it than i can remember, as i've seen a thousand other title since 7. On a side note, while gundam and macross might take up a huge slice of the mecha pie (well, mainly Gundam), theres a lot more to this genre than just this 2 brand. I do watch a lot of mecha but Delta just skimmed on it. |
| not the strongest macross series not the weakest either strongest soundtrack by far though in delta enjoyed the ride thought they dicked around a little to much in the latter episode would of liked a little more frejya hayate but it is what it is. Will miss this show greatly |
| SWFC We're all Wednesday arent we? |
SakurasouBusters said: YK97 said: I'm glad that you took interest in this franchise. I would suggest you watch other series and then come back to express your opinion on this show. :) I am fairly easy to please, so im sure ill still enjoy it, but ive been watching the original Macross as well, and i do like it better than Delta, is there a particular Macross series that is your favorite My favorite? Huh... I don't think I have one in particular. But here are some that I enjoy: Macross 7 is fun to watch. It had that slice of life style that I very much enjoy. I do not agree with the lame ending and unresolved triangle that it presents but definitely have good rock and roll music in it.You'll need to be laid back when you approach this series since it's THE MOST controversial of them all. I do recommend you finishing the first Macross since it carries some characters to it. The original is always gold for me. It was what hooked me into the Macross fan that I'm today. "Do You Remember Love" is a retelling of the original. It has updated graphics, not bad battle choreography + one of the most iconic songs of the franchise. (It made me cry because of how emotional it is. ) The original, however, do flesh out all its characters unlike all of his successors . I think if you're going to watch the original first, you'll have a blast of a time. As for Valkyrie battle choreography, I would suggest Frontier and its movies. They have the most dynamic + fluid battle sequences of the franchise. (Songs in Frontier are quite good. Keep in mind May'n who's singing Sheryl songs and Megumi Nakajima for Ranka's songs. They have the talent and use it very well.) For dog fights, Macross Zero and Plus are the ones to watch. Their story is rather average but fight+flight sequences are simply mind opening. |
-Janet said: FlamingMangos said: This is said by the person who support bad writing like tradition. The hypocrisy. How much do you want to bet that you would have a lot more positive impression on the show if it followed traditions? You can clearly see the salt in your post. "Please watch Macross Frontier because it follows traditions unlike Delta!" THIS ^^^^^ Best Post ever Totally agree with it!!!! Even if Kawamori-sensei decided to give more story development to the characters especially between Haya x Mira but choose to break the "Macros Tradition" by making Haya end up with Fre many people would still be salty as fuck. From the start Freyja was destined to be with Hayate no question there. The problem here is people keep calling the show shit because the plot wall over the place, characters were treating poorly especially Mirage but I'm 100% sure if Mirage won at the end people wouldn't be bitchng as much as they are now :/ I know people will say it's not true but I know for a fact it is and no one will tell me otherwise. Anywasy OMF the whole episode had me like this especially after Haya confessed to is precious Fre <3 *cries* Everything about it was perfect I can't complain about anything my fucken otp got together at the it cant any better then that , take that Mirage :'D IF I COULD RATE MORE THEN A 1O I WOULD BUT MAL DOESN'T ALLOW IT SO A 10 FOR ME !! Heard on GG website that there's a rumor about a sequel happening hoping its true I wanna see what happens in the aftermath wanna know if Haya and Fre marry and have kids but most of all a fucken a kiss between them D: Anyways Kawamori-sensei pleaseee start working on a sequel for delta or Aquarion Evol please I want more Mecha/Romance anime from you ^_^ Ok, so... a few thoughts. First off, Mirage looked so bad because they spent almost zero time actually giving her character. Most of the characters didn't get any time being characterized. Also, I'm guessing you haven't seen many, if any, of the earlier Macross entries, cause those traditions is a big part of the franchise. One that I haven't really seen mentioned is the lack of any sort of version of "My Boyfriend is a Pilot" which really annoys me. Did this throw some traditions away? Yes. Is that necessarily a bad thing? I'll admit, not always. But especially with Macross, traditions are the bedrock of the series. To just dismiss that out of hand, is to spit on the last 30 years of Macross. They just generally handled this very poorly, with the most lopsided 'triangle' I've seen. Also, the reason people are talking about a sequel? 100% Macross tradition. There is always a Movie version of the original, and more often then not, its a complete re-write of the series(this is what tipped me off your pretty new to the series) and also almost every time(actually, every time AFAIK) the movie is the cannon entry. And Macross Frontier is the best entry in the series. Its the Gold Standard. Which is another reason why Delta is falling so flat with so many long time fans, because this is following the greatest entry to date(well, DYRL could be debated, but that's neither here nor there). Anyways, everyone is entitled to their opinions, however wrong others might think of them. But as somewhere between a veteran of this series(started in 2011 with Frontier and DYRL) and a newbie(this is the first Macross series that I've watched as it airs) please, remember that this is an old franchise and an old fanbase. This is being compared to a long history of high quality(for the most part) entries. You can come in here and give your opinion, but especially if its your first Macross, don't say its the best thing ever. This is only surpassed by Dynamite (and a movie that doesn't exist) in how bad it was, and part of that is the pedigree from which it came. I am glad that more people are getting into the series, don't get me wrong. I'm glad your happy with the outcome of the 'Triangle'. But there is so much better out there. If you don't want to start with Frontier, then fine. So be it. Then at least watch DYRL. |
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