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Dec 8, 2015 1:01 PM
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I find it extremely difficult rating hentai. When I read non-H manga and watch non-H anime I go solely by enjoyment, but when I read a hentai manga or whatever there are all these complex variables that mixes it up.

Did I enjoy it? Was it hot? Did I come? Was there plot? Was there plot? Was the plot hot? Was the other plot hot? Was my enjoyment based purely on hornyness? Did my hornyness increase because of the story?

It's just so hard for me. (as in difficult) Especially when you consider how far behind hentai is in comparison. If a hentai OVA and a non-H anime OVA had the same story I would probably have rated the hentai much higher because "Oh, this hentai had a good story!" and that is unusual.

Thoughts? Advice? Please help me, I'm stuck on my lists. [Just one or two threads have touched this subjects, and only barely]

[There is really no good place for this post, as it concerns both manga and anime… Suggestions?]
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Dec 8, 2015 1:02 PM
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The same way I rate Anime

If the story is bad, I rate it low as I do not watch hentai to fap
Dec 8, 2015 1:04 PM
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Ah schucks. I just edited my forum search from "rating hentai" to "rate hentai" and I found a bunch of threads…

Mayukachan, if I understand you correctly, you do not get aroused from hentai?
Dec 8, 2015 1:04 PM
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Mayukachan, if I understand you correctly, you do not get aroused from hentai?
I don't because there's nothing arousing about it
Dec 8, 2015 3:40 PM
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Same as everything else: based on the art, the concept, and execution. Hence, even though I've read a bunch and watched a few, I've only rated one hentai anime and only a few manga better than 4/10.

I'm not too crazy about most porn anyway, though. A really appealing story about forbidden love is way more exciting, even arousing I'll admit.
Dec 8, 2015 4:13 PM
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mayukachan said:
I do not watch hentai to fap


I only fap 1/2 the time.


But I don't rate the hentai I watch. Just look at my list.
Dec 8, 2015 4:19 PM
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mayukachan said:
The same way I rate Anime

If the story is bad, I rate it low as I do not watch hentai to fap


I hope you dont really search Hentai for the plot lol

Dec 8, 2015 4:20 PM
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badwolf45f said:
mayukachan said:
The same way I rate Anime

If the story is bad, I rate it low as I do not watch hentai to fap


I hope you dont really search Hentai for the plot lol
I've watched it because I've heard things by others. Some are viral like Oni Chichi
Dec 8, 2015 4:40 PM
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Rate it like you would any other manga. Story, arc , character and enjoyment.

Obviously the story is commonly rated low because of the fact that story development in hentai just aren't really any good, it's more of just a set up for the sex scenes. Of course there are some with passable stories but still on a average/mediocre level overall. Sadly, there is quite a rise in short story hentai manga which just makes it more difficult to do when that manga is just a bunch of random hentai stories (usually aimed at a specific fetish). Most of this applies to characters as well.

So because of these 2 categories, hentai is generally rated a lot lower than most non-hentai stuff.

It's generally worse for animated hentai because it's known for not adapting everything (as in ends out of no where with no conclusion), skipping sex scenes, poor animation from certain studios, changing the adaption and so on.
Dec 9, 2015 1:07 AM

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By how much plot there is .
Wohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dec 9, 2015 3:35 AM
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I rate mainly on art quality since i read hentai for only one purpose.
Dec 9, 2015 3:39 AM

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Since I never make it to the end I don't rate it.
Dec 10, 2015 3:31 PM

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By how fast I came
Dec 12, 2015 9:44 AM

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Okay thanks guys, by your answers and the other threads on this topic I think I have a pretty good idea how I am going to rate it. I think I'll go primarily from enjoyment, as I rate non-H animanga this way. After all, what would any media be if not a good experience?
Dec 12, 2015 10:00 AM

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The story plays a huge part. If it's incredibly cliche, boring or unbelievable, it's dropped.



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Moechintai4 said:
The story plays a huge part. If it's incredibly cliche, boring or unbelievable, it's dropped.
yeah cuz people watch hentai for the story
Dec 12, 2015 10:53 AM

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orario_ said:
Moechintai4 said:
The story plays a huge part. If it's incredibly cliche, boring or unbelievable, it's dropped.
yeah cuz people watch hentai for the story
Forum > Manga Discussion


And yes, the story is important . Or maybe the story is not exactly the good word, it's more about the feel that it's "realistic" . Even absolutely fantasy or "super-coincidence-that-never-happen-in-real-life" stories can feel believeable , but for that it need the characters and the way they interact to evolve in a way that make the "Suspension of disbelief" happen .

Like for any manga , what I'm interested in is the characters and their interaction, way more than the actual plot or story, in a sense. And some Hentai can provide that , they are not only porn, they are erotic, because they play efficiently with the feeling of "desire" and make those feelings reach the reader. And to say it bluntly, that's what can give me the hot . ha !

It's not that easy to do I think, I kind of respect some hentai author to be able to do that with talent
Dec 12, 2015 11:10 AM

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Dullboy said:
It's not that easy to do I think, I kind of respect some hentai author to be able to do that with talent

Hmmm, whom do you like then?
Dec 12, 2015 11:45 AM
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I usually rate it the same as I would anything else.
Dec 12, 2015 1:37 PM

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MihoWittmann said:
Dullboy said:
It's not that easy to do I think, I kind of respect some hentai author to be able to do that with talent

Hmmm, whom do you like then?
well, I guess the author of the few I have on my manga list, since I only add the one I like or think they have a place on my list one way or another.

that guy do nice stuff for exemple (only my opinion of course) . See the stories are nothing fancy, it's just that the way it's done and the characters build up their interaction make it good.
Recently I read a manga named Wasurena , and I though there was something with how it managed to bring the idea of "feverish desire", something quite subtile behind the simple graphical content (really, I'm not joking) . So I think the author did well for that one too.
Maka-Maka is great, I think the author really did something with it, that go way more than being simple "yuri porn" . So far it's the best manga tagged as hentai I have read.

That also bring me to the Yuri/Yaoi aspect : so a lot of them make the sexual content the central point, and they can be view as a sub genre of hentai sometime , no ? But then it look like it's way more easy for people to give credit or rate them than "heterosexual hentai" , for some reason .


but sure ok , usually very good manga that have a lot of sexual content , and even do it the main aspect of the plot are either tagged as ecchi or romance (along with other genre) , but not hentai . Sometime it look like people think it will disregard them to tag them as hentai or something (but maybe I'm missing the point saying that, I don't know) .
Dec 12, 2015 2:09 PM

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Mayuka said:
there's nothing arousing about it

I beg to differ.

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Mayuka said:
The same way I rate Anime

I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine.
Dec 12, 2015 6:23 PM

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daky-kun said:
Mayuka said:
there's nothing arousing about it

I beg to differ.
Ok

But there isn't

Dullboy said:
That also bring me to the Yuri/Yaoi aspect : so a lot of them make the sexual content the central point, and they can be view as a sub genre of hentai sometime , no ? But then it look like it's way more easy for people to give credit or rate them than "heterosexual hentai" , for some reason .
Most yaoi/BL manga are not sex focused at all. The format is story for majority of series -> sex scene at the end.

The only two authors who do follow sex central stories are Sakira and Aya Sakyo but even they still add a decent plot to their stories. Oh and Nakamura Shungiku, I guess but her stuff is pretty light.
Dec 12, 2015 6:29 PM

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Aelter said:
Mayukachan, if I understand you correctly, you do not get aroused from hentai?
She gets aroused from Megane.

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ExTamplier said:
Aelter said:
Mayukachan, if I understand you correctly, you do not get aroused from hentai?
She gets aroused from Megane.
AYYYY LMAO
Dec 12, 2015 6:59 PM
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If u fapped: 10/10
If u didn't fap: 1/10
Dec 12, 2015 8:12 PM

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Assuming we all watch hentai or "read" for plot it's the same like non-hentai anime or manga.
Dec 12, 2015 8:17 PM

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did i fap?
yes 5/10
no 1/10


Dec 12, 2015 10:02 PM

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Did the female character have a big ass?
Yes - 10/10
No - Fuck off with that.

Dec 12, 2015 10:29 PM

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I don't put hentai on my list.

Because I don't watch them or only watched one episode for a series.
Dec 12, 2015 10:33 PM

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hoopla123 said:
or only watched one episode for a series.
Never interested how they finish it?

Dec 12, 2015 10:34 PM

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Did the female character have a big heart?
Yes - 10/10
No - Fuck off with that.
FIXED
Dec 12, 2015 10:38 PM

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Mayuka said:
V2Schneider said:
Was there a female character?
Yes - 10/10
No - Fuck off with that.
ftfy

Dec 12, 2015 10:39 PM

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V2Schneider said:
Was there a female character?
Yes - 0/10
No - 1+/10.
ftfy
No.
Dec 12, 2015 10:45 PM

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Mayuka said:
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ftfy
No.
keep your boyz and megane to yourself plz

Dec 14, 2015 8:54 PM

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I try to rate it the same way I do for all manga/anime, so far the highest one I've rated is 8.
My Reviews and Rants: http://bunny1ov3r.wordpress.com/

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Dec 14, 2015 9:04 PM

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hoopla123 said:
or only watched one episode for a series.
Never interested how they finish it?


Yep and most of them are boring shit. Hentai never really appeals to me because of the low quality + gigantic cow tits. Especially the latter. That's some repulsive shit man.

I read doujins more than hentai.
Dec 14, 2015 9:20 PM

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Simple. I just don't rate hentai.
Dec 14, 2015 9:26 PM

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10/10 if it gave me a fap to remember
heheuehueheueheu AYYY
Dec 14, 2015 9:34 PM

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Ahegao and curves is an instant 10/10

Everything else 0/10
Dec 14, 2015 11:36 PM

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Art is a huge factor. But often I rate for if they tackled issues any differently than how I read in others of the same typing. Did this manga have something special about it that I think makes it stand out compared to the other porny titles? My favorite yaoi manga has a black guy in it and a tragic ending and mostly consensual sex between the main pairing. Which is actually hard to come by in yaoi for some reason. Though black men it is easy to know why that is harder to come by in manga. XD but still he was very nicely drawn. Very sexy. Art was top notch.

But really the most important part is, did I get off or excited by it? XD
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Dec 14, 2015 11:42 PM
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By how fappable it was? That is the sum of every other factor worth mentioning after all

I stay on a 1-8 scale for hentai though just because my list would look stupid at the very top otherwise

Same with H-manga/doujins, though I only add them to my list if they're at least 1 volume long and I've read through all of it (so no single one-shots)
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I'd rate hentai by how hot the women are and probably, how fappable it is.
But, I'm a lazy bastard, so I don't fap. Too much hand motion.

Most hentai, story is non-existent, so there is no point to rating a hentai by the story.
There might be a slight story in some hentai series, but, that story only exists for the start, and it just simply follows it, and never develops. For example, a series like "Please Rape Me!" follows the story of a man who likes rape, woman who can sense rape, and then that's all, it follows those two things.

This was on the manga discussion topic, but, I mentioned an anime. Gonna kill me?

Also, rating a hentai JUST by girls is kinda absurd, so I rate it with other factors, including size of breasts, which I do not want to be over-sized cow utters, because giant balloons, cow utters, whatever you want to call them, kinda look gross to me.

This one might seem a bit weird, but I also use hairstyle. Not so much the face, but the hairstyle.

For some reason, the hairstyle seems to stand out more than the face to me. (I might be delusional/on drugs). But, enough of this, I might end up writing an essay on how I rate hentai.

Just a little explanation.

Also, if you've stalked my profile and found no hentai at all there, just search up DeusenMoose in the 'users' and you'll find 'R18' at the end.

That's my kinky profile. Should contain hentai related things, but, not much.
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This was on the manga discussion topic, but, I mentioned an anime. Gonna kill me?


Actually, I couldn't find any good sub forum for this, so I put i here in manga discussion kinda arbitrary. MAL's forums has a huge downside in that if you want to talk about japanese animation as a whole, anime and manga included, you're pretty much fucked. There is no sub forum for the general content on this site!

I see a lot of people think there are no good hentai with good art, story, characters etc. Wow, you haven't been reading hentai a lot, have you? Like with all genres, there's a shit ton of shit examples whit shit art and everything (is it okay to curse here btw?). But the point is you have to look beyond that junk, just select the good ones and don't even bother with the rest!

You'll have stuff like Viva Freedom!! filled with humour, great comedies that at least I laugh a lot at.

You'll have skilled hentai mangaka like Yamatogawa who draws detailed and beautiful characters, settings and scenes. That all hentai have bad visuals/art is just wrong.

There's manga like HanaFuda that are just beautiful (IMO) and are plot-centered. HanaFuda tells a classic story involving kitsune, and I liked the fantasy tone of it. (If anyone has a recommendation for similar hentai, please do tell!)

There's a lot of manga and anime with interesting characters, like Domin-8 Me / Take On Me have.

You have stuff like Bible Black, pushing extreme themes into the mainstream, and other hentai that just want to push the limits of taboo.

And of course, some hentai is just so good at getting you aroused that it does it to perfection, triggering you're every nerve, every sense with all it's got.
Dec 16, 2015 4:34 AM
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From 1-10 I'll rate it 9 because i love hentai
Dec 16, 2015 4:37 AM
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Same as any other anime it depends on how much I liked it. I have only watched one hentai until now (Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo: Anata to Koibito Tsunagi) and I gave it an 8/10.
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Dullboy said:

Thanks to you and Aelter for the recommendations/information.

I'm in the middle of reading Maka-Maka, and I sure know what you mean. But regarding the second part of your post, I think that's because the manga are considered to have merits beyond the erotic. Although often the distinction is arbitrary, I'm sure. (And yuri/yaoi only has a lot of sexual content if one defines the genres to just be… adult content… as MAL does, calling the rest shoujo/shounen ai.)
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The story, the character development and the art.

Most only got the last one right, the story are just garbage and break the canon. The character somehow always turn into a slut from the beginning or at the end. X is a strong character but somehow she can't fight off bunch of rapist. Make no sense, come on. I wish they stop thinking with their penis when they write this shit.
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I never add hentai to my list lol
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Thank you all for your great answers, I'm such a slow poster myself…

There is one problem with hentai though, I have discovered. Many (including me) read hentai when they are horny, and that can swing your mind in a total different set. For example I would never watch hentai when I'm in the mood for Ghibli, and I would never watch Ghibli when I'm in the mood.

So when I'm not feeling for it, much of hentai can be garbage. And when I switch that same hentai can be arousing, e.g. enjoyable, while some really good non-H show might just bore me. So it becomes difficult to rate hentai the same as usual, as you enjoy different things in different modes.
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I don't add it to my list, but if I did, it'd probably be based on fappability.
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