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Jul 15, 2015 2:42 AM
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Well that explains why Sabo never tried to contact Luffy or Ace all those years. Next week is on break sadly :(
Jul 15, 2015 2:48 AM
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So Sabo couldn't remember who he was after Dragon rescued him.
Sad seeing Sabo reacting to the death of Ace to jog his memories.
Really wanted Luffy to be awake so he could see Sabo again.
CP0 are making their move very soon. Time to leave Dressrosa.
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Jul 15, 2015 3:15 AM
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We've seen sabo's past and "Im leaving him in your hands"? time to say RIP Sabo.
Jul 15, 2015 3:28 AM
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A nice explanation for why Sabo never bothered to contact Luffy/Ace. But damn what a painful way to get his memories back >.<

*sigh looks like Bellamy is still around -_-
Jul 15, 2015 3:28 AM
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Great explanation chapter, Good enough reason as to why he never showed up.

Feel bad for how he regained his memories though. :(
Jul 15, 2015 3:29 AM
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If CP0 is turning back it's gonna be hard to leave Dressrosa, it's better if they do it now and also is time to meet the resto of the crew already!

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This chapter was really amazing as we all wanted to know what really happened to Sabo and why he wasn't there at Marineford and this chapter covered almost every point.....and I also think that the timing for this chapter was perfect because i believe that the chapters after the haitus upto 800 are going to be epic a f*ck as CPO is coming back so SH won't have any time to party, there's gonna be a bounty raise, Kaido's gonna act now and more epic things and i'm HYPED as f*ck..... so this chapter really came out at the right time......4/5
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So emotional. T_T Worst timing to get back his memory, he just missed the 'execution' by a hair. Really nice chapter, and I can't wait for the vivre card to come into play again, but this time, it's Sabo keeping a track of Luffy, instead of the opposite.

</3 Break. ): But loved the early release. XD

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Has everyone forgot about big mom or what?
I am pretty sure they have trust in Sanji and the rest of the crew. They need a small breather before they can set sail again, which should be very soon, could very well be the next chapter. This island is also the only place with actual doctor for Law and Luffy, with Law passed out. Who knows what could have happened on the sea had they sailed out with Luffy/Law in that condition. Chopper is not with them.
Speaking of the rest of the crew, Sunny Go is with them, so it's not like they have anything to sail on immediately anyway.
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Am i the only one who gets a bad feeling whenever i see a vivre card?

Very emotional chapter

The 2 weeks wait is gonna be so fucking hard..
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Am i the only one who gets a bad feeling whenever i see a vivre card?
You're definitely not the only one. Most of us were probably reminded of Ace back in Alabasta. This time it's not Luffy keeping track of Sabo tho, so if anything, bad things are probably gonna happen to Luffy..
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Jul 15, 2015 4:17 AM
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ToG25thBaam said:
smelldemon said:
Am i the only one who gets a bad feeling whenever i see a vivre card?
You're definitely not the only one. Most of us were probably reminded of Ace back in Alabasta. This time it's not Luffy keeping track of Sabo tho, so if anything, bad things are probably gonna happen to Luffy..


Yeah it reminded me of the Ace thing as well, as you say it'll probably be something that happens to Luffy.
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i cri while reading the chapter :(
then i read hiatus
i cri even more :(


In all seriousness, even though it was a good feels trip, I find Oda to be lazy to pull that "amnesia" shit on us. But then again, no one else couldn't think of a legitimate answer to his absence prior the two years and the war, and that he wasn't able to meet Ace.



On a more serious note, asif you make Doflamingo block his eyes like that.
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*sigh looks like Bellamy is still around -_-


Lol I was thinking the same XD

Anyway, amnesia it is then. That was one of the most common theories. Good to have confirmation ^^ Must've sucked for Sabo having all his memories come back and hit him full brunt in one go realizing how important Ace actually was to him and how it was already too late :(

Makes the scene when he went to visit the grave much more impactful T^T

Now that they're resting and all, it's just a bit annoying seeing how Zoro was completely unharmed. It shows he's BA owning Pica so easily but he could've also gone and kicked some Doffy ass :P

Oh well I guess we need at least one person to be in full health during their escape from CP0. Zoro's perfect for the job. He's reliable that's for sure :P
Jul 15, 2015 4:27 AM

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Wow,Oda has been on fire the past 2 chapters.Thankfully everything about Sabo has been explained.The feels were real

No OP next week :'(
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Btw, where's chopper? Totally forgot about him
Jul 15, 2015 4:31 AM

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Now that they're resting and all, it's just a bit annoying seeing how Zoro was completely unharmed. It shows he's BA owning Pica so easily but he could've also gone and kicked some Doffy ass :P
Zoro can't touch Doffy. ;P

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Btw, where's chopper? Totally forgot about him
On Sunny Go. I miss him a lot. ):

Oh ya, there's one moment in this chapter that I really liked as well, and that is to see Dragon pissed off. I got chills. It's kind of a new thing we get to know about Dragon, that he's capable of rage, which of course make sense, but it makes it all the more interesting to see him going after World Gov's ass now.
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no one piece next week!




But you'll still take damage!
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Also, I don't know if you guys realised this but, Zoro has not sustain a single injury, whereas everyone else did. That's quite a feat, but then again, he didn't had any major fights.

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Does anybody know why was the chapter out one day earlier.? Hell, even Mangastream's translation came before mangapanda's.
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Also, I don't know if you guys realised this but, Zoro has not sustain a single injury, whereas everyone else did. That's quite a feat, but then again, he didn't had any major fights.
He's lucky he did not get matched up with Doffy. :3

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Does anybody know why was the chapter out one day earlier.? Hell, even Mangastream's translation came before mangapanda's.
Not sure, this sort of leak have no set release date anyway, or maybe the scanlation team got so hyped after the previous chapter and release the translation a bit faster? :) Thanks for the info by the way, I didn't know mangastream's version was up. I will get to it later.
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ToG25thBaam said:
Barion-Zara said:
Now that they're resting and all, it's just a bit annoying seeing how Zoro was completely unharmed. It shows he's BA owning Pica so easily but he could've also gone and kicked some Doffy ass :P
Zoro can't touch Doffy. ;P


Ok, Not kick ass but at least he could've played a major role. We've barely seen him break a sweat post TS.
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That was a pretty good chapter. Dem feels.
>On break yet again. smh
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Barion-Zara said:
ToG25thBaam said:
Zoro can't touch Doffy. ;P


Ok, Not kick ass but at least he could've played a major role. We've barely seen him break a sweat post TS.


Zoro would pretty much push Doffy to mid diff at best. 11 on 1, he would lose no doubt but he won't go down with landing in a few hits for sure. Tbh, even Luffy and Law can't beat doffy on their own.
Jul 15, 2015 5:22 AM
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Two great chapters in a row after being mediocore for weeks. Well I hope Oda continues his trend now. Wano seems to be better planned than Dressrosa so hopes are high.
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Ok, Not kick ass but at least he could've played a major role. We've barely seen him break a sweat post TS.


Zoro would pretty much push Doffy to mid diff at best. 11 on 1, he would lose no doubt but he won't go down with landing in a few hits for sure. Tbh, even Luffy and Law can't beat doffy on their own.
Honestly, I couldn't see Zoro pushing Doffy to mid diff. Law + Luffy high diff Doffy, even though Law did get hurt pretty badly when Fujitora intervene earlier in Green Bit. I don't feel comfortable putting Zoro so near to Luffy after Gear 4 reveal.

In a 1 on 1, I don't see Luffy pushing Doffy to high diff either. So, he's probably gonna be mid diff'ed, and Zoro probably low-mid diff, a little bit above Sanji.
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So we find out what Sado's been doing all this time.

When we saw his reaction to Ace's death, that was so sad. Is there any flashback in this series that is not sad? It is confirmed CP0 is coming, so our heroes better get the heck out of dodge.
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One piece is the only manga that can squeeze h2o out of my manly eyes

This chapter definitely did it and I find this one a tad bit interesting, not because of the bro-mance happening but finally, the story will move on.

To me, this Dressdrosa arc is 70% similar to their recently previous arc, one to mention is the kingdom around sands (I forgot the name).
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Although I don't like the amnesia "twist", it does make sense and works fine as an explanation.Was really sad to see Sabo's reaction :(

This at the end could be a death flag for Sabo...pls no.
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For those speculating about the crows
http://i.imgur.com/uZIFmRt.jpg
back pre ts even newspaper has been brought to the revos with crows.......they were even before the timeskip
Jul 15, 2015 5:40 AM

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well that explain why sabo did not come to save ace ........
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For those speculating about the crows
http://i.imgur.com/uZIFmRt.jpg
back pre ts even newspaper has been brought to the revos with crows.......they were even before the timeskip


Sabo is riding the crows and they can talk....
That is what's weird here.

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Zoro would pretty much push Doffy to mid diff at best. 11 on 1, he would lose no doubt but he won't go down with landing in a few hits for sure. Tbh, even Luffy and Law can't beat doffy on their own. Honestly, I couldn't see Zoro pushing Doffy to mid diff. Law + Luffy high diff Doffy, even though Law did get hurt pretty badly when Fujitora intervene earlier in Green Bit. I don't feel comfortable putting Zoro so near to Luffy after Gear 4 reveal.

In a 1 on 1, I don't see Luffy pushing Doffy to high diff either. So, he's probably gonna be mid diff'ed, and Zoro probably low-mid diff, a little bit above Sanji.


I can see Asura being comparable to Gear 4, if Zoro is doing mountain level slashes even without using it and multiple ones on top of those.

Zoro can most likely push doffy to the lower end of mid diff category while Luffy being on the upper end of it.
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No chapter next week again.It's definitely one break every month now and it was a good chapter today earlier than expected.
We get to see Sabo and Luffy meeting once again and how Sabo lost his memory till Ace death.
Jul 15, 2015 6:11 AM

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That was a pretty good chapter. Dem feels.
>On break yet again. smh


Exactly my thoughts.

Sabo-san ;_;
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and sabo's past is finally revealed..
damn it's so touching..
how he finally remembered everything after it's too late...

and when Zoro said "That's almost the exact same thing Ace said to us"
i feel the death flag of Sabo has been raised..
don't tell me Oda will kill him too...

finally no OP next week...
Damn....

Jul 15, 2015 7:20 AM

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"Wait... YOU'RE MONKEY D. LUFFY's FATHER?!"
"Hm? Oh, yh."

(5/5) for that exchange.
Jul 15, 2015 7:34 AM

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My first thought was that sabo had 2 devil fruits because the crows just kinda came out of nowhere ,pretty interested to see what thats all about aside from that the chapter was ok but very necessary.
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Nice chapter bridged the gap between ASL flashback and preset day.

So pretty much confirmed Dragon has a devil fruit? Has something to do with crows, Yatagarasu Mythical Zoan maybe ?
Jul 15, 2015 8:01 AM

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Sabo past out the exactly same way as Luffy did.
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No wonder. Sabo lost his memories and the fact that those theories were cleared that he did not die and dragon saved the little champ.
So Sabo and Ace met somewhere down the line before ACE got captured by the beard and heeded warning ahead of time.
Glad to see the Dressrosa crew in Kyros' shelter. Robin, Zoro, Law, Bellamy, Luffy, Ussop, Franky im glad they're safe.
No OP next week. Life is getting slow for manga.
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So meeting in Kyros and Scarlet's home..damn That Terminator Style Franky...looks awesome. especially how he is fixing his own face.

...Well Dragon looked pretty pissed Off... I Hope he KILLED that Tenryuubito
O_o SABO HAD FREAKING AMNESIA!?!?!!? GOD DAMN WHAT A F**KING BAD LUCK!!!!
and what a Way to Remember...T.T

...Well....That I pretty realistic way to react that Dead Brother return from the Dead...SHock and Happiness.

So...We see one of the Few Bird Fruits huh....Tori-Tori no mi....Mode Kuron? (Bird-Bird Fruit; Model Crown) aw No OP in next week.
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Holy Chewbacca!! Oda was on fire these last 2 chapters. ^_^

Anyway, am I the only one who thinks that there's something fishy with those crows that flew away with Sabo? First they came out of nowhere and on the last page they apparently know how to talk??!! 0_o You'll say I'm too suspicious but think about it... most of the times when Oda draws even an animal there's some-kind of a face but those crows had nothing. Could it be some-kind of shape-shifting ability of someone? I think I'm getting paranoid... haha XD
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I'm honestly shocked with this chapter. I don't know, I wasn't much of a fan overall, since I didn't like the main idea of the story. I guess it's difficult to make a good excuse for Sabo's case, but this is very cheap. But regardless of that, the feeling I had with today's One Piece is that it didn't follow the internal coherence of the story. It simply doesn't fit. It's like we have missed something relevant that linked the previous chapters with this one, which came literally from nowhere.

I've even read the theory that this was a fake, coming on Wednesday instead of Thursday and such xD And while not necessarily, it seems at the very least strange... I mean, why does Kyros have two legs? Why is Bellamy in the same room as the Straw Hats, Law and Kyros? Why isn't Rebecca there? And then the excuse of amnesia... it is convenient. Too convenient. Not just due to him being able to remember everything with a single photograph, but also due to how the only thing Sabo could keep in his mind is that he didn't want to return with his family. It's absurd, and it's unnecessary because he had had a conversation with Dragon before that makes the sudden explanation in this chapter redundant.

And then the crows... just many things are out of context in this chapter. It's quite weird.
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Amnesia was not the best explanation but it is plausible so I have pretty mixed feelings on that part. Overall I enjoyed the rest of the chapter a lot though, especially the expanded conversation between Luffy and Sabo.
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I've even read the theory that this was a fake, coming on Wednesday instead of Thursday and such xD And while not necessarily, it seems at the very least strange... I mean, why does Kyros have two legs? Why is Bellamy in the same room as the Straw Hats, Law and Kyros? Why isn't Rebecca there? And then the excuse of amnesia... it is convenient. Too convenient. Not just due to him being able to remember everything with a single photograph, but also due to how the only thing Sabo could keep in his mind is that he didn't want to return with his family. It's absurd, and it's unnecessary because he had had a conversation with Dragon before that makes the sudden explanation in this chapter redundant.

And then the crows... just many things are out of context in this chapter. It's quite weird.


Yeah, the crows and Kuros' "2" legs got me thinking that something is not quite right with this chapter too. I don't think that Oda would make such a mistake an forget that Kuros is one legged but maybe he is just teasing us. :P Though the crows don't seem like much of a tease. Maybe he watched too many episodes of Game of Thrones! XD hahahaha
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Yes! Finally some light lit on Sabo's past!
Wow riding on birds :o oh a hiatus?
Nice chapter, finally learned what happened back then.
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Awesome chapter! Finally we learn why Sabo didn't contact Ace and Luffy all this time and why he didn't go to Marineford

I'm not a fan of the Amnesia plot device either but I feel like it fits here, any other reason wouldn't be understandable

Also can we please get Sanji &Co. back in the next chapter? C'mon Oda its been way too long
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we can see more dragon hmm how he rescued sabo. i cant wait 2 weeks
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I've even read the theory that this was a fake, coming on Wednesday instead of Thursday and such xD And while not necessarily, it seems at the very least strange... I mean, why does Kyros have two legs? Why is Bellamy in the same room as the Straw Hats, Law and Kyros? Why isn't Rebecca there? And then the excuse of amnesia... it is convenient. Too convenient. Not just due to him being able to remember everything with a single photograph, but also due to how the only thing Sabo could keep in his mind is that he didn't want to return with his family. It's absurd, and it's unnecessary because he had had a conversation with Dragon before that makes the sudden explanation in this chapter redundant.

And then the crows... just many things are out of context in this chapter. It's quite weird.

Yeah, the crows and Kuros' "2" legs got me thinking that something is not quite right with this chapter too. I don't think that Oda would make such a mistake an forget that Kuros is one legged but maybe he is just teasing us. :P Though the crows don't seem like much of a tease. Maybe he watched too many episodes of Game of Thrones! XD hahahaha
I think the crows have actually been seen before as messengers for the revolutionary army.
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