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Nov 1, 2014 7:23 PM

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>Linking Kotaku.
Absolutely haram, I threw up a little.

I assume it's the 10 ish minutes open world gameplay video on YT? Didn't seem too impressive. Could very well just be one big ish open area, and even if it's not, you still need a reason to go around there.
Like, at least in Betheseda's games there's bandit camps with loot and random little shit caves and such, so it feels like you get something out of the exploration rather than just wasting time with scenery porn and dodging enemies.

So yea, I'm still on HMS Expecting Failure until I read some consumer reviews.
Nov 1, 2014 7:39 PM

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Baman said:
>Linking Kotaku.
Absolutely haram, I threw up a little.

I assume it's the 10 ish minutes open world gameplay video on YT? Didn't seem too impressive. Could very well just be one big ish open area, and even if it's not, you still need a reason to go around there.
Like, at least in Betheseda's games there's bandit camps with loot and random little shit caves and such, so it feels like you get something out of the exploration rather than just wasting time with scenery porn and dodging enemies.

So yea, I'm still on HMS Expecting Failure until I read some consumer reviews.


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Nov 1, 2014 7:41 PM

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I wish I could play Fallout 3 to see if it was overrated or not but Bethesda has a tendency to make their games so disgustingly buggy I couldn't even get past the title menu. My comp has shit specs but when I see a guy run Fallout 3 with even shittier specs run it perfectly fine I got a little bit miffed
Nov 1, 2014 7:43 PM
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i didn't really care for games similar to this on the wii, so... i'll probably pass.
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VitaminCaim said:
I wish I could play Fallout 3 to see if it was overrated or not but Bethesda has a tendency to make their games so disgustingly buggy I couldn't even get past the title menu. My comp has shit specs but when I see a guy run Fallout 3 with even shittier specs run it perfectly fine I got a little bit miffed


Get both FO3 and New Vegas, then install tale of two wastelands.

Then you can do all of Fallout 3 including the story using the engine from new vegas, which actually works like an FPS.

Then realize FO3 is complete shit and the voice actors were hired from a methadone clinic.
Nov 1, 2014 7:50 PM

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SolvitePriest said:
VitaminCaim said:
I wish I could play Fallout 3 to see if it was overrated or not but Bethesda has a tendency to make their games so disgustingly buggy I couldn't even get past the title menu. My comp has shit specs but when I see a guy run Fallout 3 with even shittier specs run it perfectly fine I got a little bit miffed


Get both FO3 and New Vegas, then install tale of two wastelands.

Then you can do all of Fallout 3 including the story using the engine from new vegas, which actually works like an FPS.

Then realize FO3 is complete shit and the voice actors were hired from a methadone clinic.
Oh I definitely heard about the quirky voice acting from Fallout 3. I look forward to getting shitcanned from toilet voice acting
Nov 1, 2014 7:51 PM

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Fallout 3 = Oblivion with Guns

Fallout New Vegas = Fallout 2.5
Nov 1, 2014 7:57 PM

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Not with The Witcher 3 coming out it isn't.

Seriously though no Nomura = possible shitty game.

I know the visuals are flashy and everything but I suggest not getting your hopes up too high for Final Fantasy Boy Band Road-trip Simulator.
Nov 1, 2014 7:59 PM

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Not with The Witcher 3 coming out it isn't.

Seriously though no Nomura = possible shitty game.

I know the visuals are flashy and everything but I suggest not getting your hopes up too high for Final Fantasy Boy Band Road-trip Simulator.


Nomura is the reason why the last few games have been shit.
Nov 1, 2014 8:01 PM

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F0XFIRE said:
Not with The Witcher 3 coming out it isn't.

Seriously though no Nomura = possible shitty game.

I know the visuals are flashy and everything but I suggest not getting your hopes up too high for Final Fantasy Boy Band Road-trip Simulator.
Except Nomura was replaced by a different guy ya nerd. Nomura isn't behind FFXV so we have hope
Nov 1, 2014 8:05 PM

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SolvitePriest said:
Nomura is the reason why the last few games have been shit.


Yeah they were shitty compared to the others though still passably decent I guess. Nomura's involvement would of resulted in this game possible pretty much being decent like the last few games but now that he's gone it's a little worrying.

Also I have no idea who the fuck the new guy is.
Nov 1, 2014 8:08 PM

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F0XFIRE said:
SolvitePriest said:
Nomura is the reason why the last few games have been shit.


Yeah they were shitty compared to the others though still passably decent I guess. Nomura's involvement would of resulted in this game possible pretty much being decent like the last few games but now that he's gone it's a little worrying.

Also I have no idea who the fuck the new guy is.
The new guy made FF type 0 and Crisis Core. I liked Crisis Core so I think tis going to be good. I haven't played FF type 0 but I like the plot 10x more than all the shit Nomura pulled recently
Nov 1, 2014 8:18 PM

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F0XFIRE said:
SolvitePriest said:
Nomura is the reason why the last few games have been shit.


Yeah they were shitty compared to the others though still passably decent I guess. Nomura's involvement would of resulted in this game possible pretty much being decent like the last few games but now that he's gone it's a little worrying.

Also I have no idea who the fuck the new guy is.


Nomura directed FF8 and FF13. The worst final fantasies. Dude can suck a dick.

Also he personally designed all the grimdark jpop characters like Noctis, Squall and Lightning.
Nov 1, 2014 8:19 PM

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idk then maybe things will be ok. I am sort of happy Nomura's gone though sometimes change isn't a good sign I guess and I'm a little worried.

Other than the Open World aspect I haven't really been particularly impressed by anything else in the game so I won't set my expectations very high.
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F0XFIRE said:
idk then maybe things will be ok. I am sort of happy Nomura's gone though sometimes change isn't a good sign I guess and I'm a little worried. Other than the Open World aspect I haven't really been particularly impressed by anything else in the game so I won't set my expectations very high.


Nomura did most of the work on FF15.

All thats left is quality fixes, and other menial things.

The design decisions were made by nomura.

also FF isnt and never will be open world.

Having a map with nothing to do on it but fly to the next city isnt open world.
Nov 1, 2014 8:25 PM

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So I guess this has a chance of being a decent game then but not something defining the generation as you say. I don't have faith in Nomura to save the FF franchise.
Nov 1, 2014 8:28 PM

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F0XFIRE said:
So I guess this has a chance of being a decent game then but not something defining the generation as you say. I don't have faith in Nomura to save the FF franchise.


clickbait title is clickbait bro
Nov 1, 2014 8:29 PM

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SolvitePriest said:
F0XFIRE said:
idk then maybe things will be ok. I am sort of happy Nomura's gone though sometimes change isn't a good sign I guess and I'm a little worried. Other than the Open World aspect I haven't really been particularly impressed by anything else in the game so I won't set my expectations very high.


Nomura did most of the work on FF15.

All thats left is quality fixes, and other menial things.

The design decisions were made by nomura.

also FF isnt and never will be open world.

Having a map with nothing to do on it but fly to the next city isnt open world.
Who knows, the decision was made months ago and it's releasing in 1 year. A whole lot can happen in 1 year but meh, maybe I'm getting my hopes up
Nov 1, 2014 8:31 PM

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SolvitePriest said:
clickbait title is clickbait bro


Oh right. My baiting level isn't high enough to have knowledge of that skill.

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also FF isnt and never will be open world.


So XV isn't open world? It says something like open-world environment about it. Though I did like how the environments looked, very pretty.
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Nov 1, 2014 8:36 PM

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SolvitePriest said:
F0XFIRE said:


Yeah they were shitty compared to the others though still passably decent I guess. Nomura's involvement would of resulted in this game possible pretty much being decent like the last few games but now that he's gone it's a little worrying.

Also I have no idea who the fuck the new guy is.


Nomura directed FF8 and FF13. The worst final fantasies. Dude can suck a dick.
no toriyama directed FF13, but yes nomura is responsible for the abomination that is FF8 but thats pretty much his only fuck up

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 1, 2014 8:40 PM

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F0XFIRE said:


So XV isn't open world? It says something like open-world environment about it. Though I did like how the environments looked, very pretty.
Well almost all the Final Fantasies have been pseudo open world. Once you were done with a certain area you were more than likely never going to visit it again. It's just FF13 went ultra linear by not even letting you roam til chapter 9 or something I forgot
Nov 1, 2014 8:41 PM

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VitaminCaim said:
Well almost all the Final Fantasies have been pseudo open world. Once you were done with a certain area you were more than likely never going to visit it again or do sidequests


So they're having more Open World level design than the others?
Nov 1, 2014 8:53 PM

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F0XFIRE said:
VitaminCaim said:
Well almost all the Final Fantasies have been pseudo open world. Once you were done with a certain area you were more than likely never going to visit it again or do sidequests


So they're having more Open World level design than the others?
Well we'll have to wait and see. FF13 had the open world aspect by chapter 9 which took hours and hours to get to so it was almost pointless. It also didn't have towns which was probably the dumbest design choice someone has ever made... If the open world aspect is being emphasized in this trailer then I think this might be the Final Fantasy that breaks the curse
Nov 1, 2014 8:59 PM

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VitaminCaim said:
Well we'll have to wait and see. FF13 had the open world aspect by chapter 9 which took hours and hours to get to so it was almost pointless. It also didn't have towns which was probably the dumbest design choice someone has ever made... If the open world aspect is being emphasized in this trailer then I think this might be the Final Fantasy that breaks the curse


I hope so.
Nov 1, 2014 9:10 PM

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VitaminCaim said:
Well we'll have to wait and see. FF13 had the open world aspect by chapter 9 which took hours and hours to get to so it was almost pointless. It also didn't have towns which was probably the dumbest design choice someone has ever made... If the open world aspect is being emphasized in this trailer then I think this might be the Final Fantasy that breaks the curse
Other videos have shown story events that seem mostly like QTE chain battles à la God of War. So I would assume that most of the plot play out like that, with the open world stuff being filler in between.
Nov 1, 2014 10:08 PM

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Well, okay, that's one way to look at it. I actually meant that when like 50% of people can't play the game, it's not a "defining game" at all. It's just another console exclusive that no one ends up caring about in a few years.

But...console exclusives have for years had games that everyone cared about over a decade later. People still talk about Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VII, Zelda: Windwaker, Super Mario Sunshine, etc.
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Watched the video yes, the open world doesn't seem that impressive over anything Bethesda's put out. It all just looks a bit more polished in terms of put-togetherness, but they still didn't really show anything interesting in the game they just walked around no actual game play. In the article it says you engage in fights with monsters you're close too so it seems to be another FF game without an actual turn based combat system, haven't done research correct me otherwise.

Also I can agree FO3 was shit, but lore was fine.

Its an action RPG. Think like Kingdom Hearts.
Nov 2, 2014 3:10 AM

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Nomura directed FF8 and FF13. The worst final fantasies. Dude can suck a dick.
no toriyama directed FF13, but yes nomura is responsible for the abomination that is FF8 but thats pretty much his only fuck up


yeah no. lightning was created by nomura
Nov 2, 2014 9:27 AM

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Geez, FFXV looks average, at the best.

Persona 5 will be way better for sure.
Nov 2, 2014 10:35 AM

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Geez, FFXV looks average, at the best.

Persona 5 will be way better for sure.
At least say that when a gameplay trailer releases. Yeah P5 may be better but at least start the shit talk when P5 releases an ingame trailer LOL

Persona fans are like the LOGH fans of jrpgs
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VitaminCaim said:
Mizorefan said:
Geez, FFXV looks average, at the best.

Persona 5 will be way better for sure.
At least say that when a gameplay trailer releases. Yeah P5 may be better but at least start the shit talk when P5 releases an ingame trailer LOL

Persona fans are like the LOGH fans of jrpgs


no there not atlest ginga ei den fans like somting that not not just a spin off of a much better franchise
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VitaminCaim said:
At least say that when a gameplay trailer releases. Yeah P5 may be better but at least start the shit talk when P5 releases an ingame trailer LOL

Persona fans are like the LOGH fans of jrpgs


no there not atlest ginga ei den fans like somting that not not just a spin off of a much better franchise
Word that better please
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F0XFIRE said:
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Nomura is the reason why the last few games have been shit.


Yeah they were shitty compared to the others though still passably decent I guess. Nomura's involvement would of resulted in this game possible pretty much being decent like the last few games but now that he's gone it's a little worrying.

Also I have no idea who the fuck the new guy is.


nomura is the worst person square have ever employed i was hoping they owld get nakamura and Chun soft back to help devloed the game thre true dream team of gaming
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no there not atlest ginga ei den fans like somting that not not just a spin off of a much better franchise
Word that better please



persona is a spin off of better franchise mega ten and Ginga ei den is its own thing Thus persona fans are worse
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
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FGAU1912 said:
VitaminCaim said:
Word that better please



persona is a spin off of better franchise mega ten and Ginga ei den is its own thing Thus persona fans are worse
I'm referring to how Persona fans brush off almost every other jrpg and refer to Persona as the holy coming of christ. Although you probably don't understand since you live in Japan and almost every jrpg is available but outside of Japan, Persona fans just don't know when to stop talking and talking about it. I like Persona but holy fuck they just don't shut up and some of them never even played other JRPGs before. And I'm not literally comparing LOGH and Persona, I'm just saying they both have cancerous fanbases
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Still my only issue with this game is the lack of party member and the whole road trip theme to it. If only FFXV was not FF Versus XIII, maybe Tabata would have make his own plot instead of picking off where Nomura left off.
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I'm probably going to buy this, and I'm probably going to like it. From that, I can deduce that you all are probably wrong, because I am always right.

Inb4: "I'm probably not going to buy this, and if I did probably wouldn't like it. From that I can deduce that you all are probably right, because I am always right."
Nov 2, 2014 12:41 PM
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FFXV will be the most selling game in series.
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F0XFIRE said:
I know the visuals are flashy and everything but I suggest not getting your hopes up too high for Final Fantasy Boy Band Road-trip Simulator.
Oh my god, that describes those pansies perfectly. I've asked if they were all in a band or something and commented about how stupid they look acting cool as they drive, but your description is so concise. Pansies! All that's missing is a comment about their ridiculous hair.

Edit: And the gargantuan, retarded as shit weapons.
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VitaminCaim said:
FGAU1912 said:



persona is a spin off of better franchise mega ten and Ginga ei den is its own thing Thus persona fans are worse
I'm referring to how Persona fans brush off almost every other jrpg and refer to Persona as the holy coming of christ. Although you probably don't understand since you live in Japan and almost every jrpg is available but outside of Japan, Persona fans just don't know when to stop talking and talking about it. I like Persona but holy fuck they just don't shut up and some of them never even played other JRPGs before. And I'm not literally comparing LOGH and Persona, I'm just saying they both have cancerous fanbases



an din japan the Ginga ei den fan base is 100 time the size of the persona fan base

since the novel =is on the biggest selling native language sci Fi novels written in modern times
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A huge open world doesnt mean jack if you dont put enough content in it to keep it engaging for players. FUEL is a perfect example of this.
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Hopefully they will include teleportations between locations as well.
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A huge open world doesnt mean jack if you dont put enough content in it to keep it engaging for players. FUEL is a perfect example of this.
That's my main concern as well. And the area we've seen so far looks pretty empty.
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And I'm not literally comparing LOGH and Persona, I'm just saying they both have cancerous fanbases
Toppest of keks.
Nov 2, 2014 3:28 PM

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Every game can be open world now.


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Nov 2, 2014 3:45 PM

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Every game can be open world now.
I can't wait for the open world remake of Tetris. Shit's gon be so cash.
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Baman said:
Malandrix said:
Every game can be open world now.
I can't wait for the open world remake of Tetris. Shit's gon be so cash.

It's already turning into a movie.

Also, please never change your avatar.
Nov 2, 2014 6:12 PM

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fwiw persona > logh
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Ezekiel said:
F0XFIRE said:
I know the visuals are flashy and everything but I suggest not getting your hopes up too high for Final Fantasy Boy Band Road-trip Simulator.
Oh my god, that describes those pansies perfectly. I've asked if they were all in a band or something and commented about how stupid they look acting cool as they drive, but your description is so concise. Pansies! All that's missing is a comment about their ridiculous hair.

Edit: And the gargantuan, retarded as shit weapons.


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SolvitePriest said:
Ezekiel said:
Oh my god, that describes those pansies perfectly. I've asked if they were all in a band or something and commented about how stupid they look acting cool as they drive, but your description is so concise. Pansies! All that's missing is a comment about their ridiculous hair.

Edit: And the gargantuan, retarded as shit weapons.


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My asshole is ready for it man. This game looks fucking awesome. This will be the game that'll make me get a next gen system
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BTW until they show persona 5s combat system im not getting excited.

it could be real time trash or something.
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