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| Another great episode yet I'm sad to think that there's only 4 left :( For a moment there,I was thinking Sebastian & William were gonna duke it out oh no,Sebastian know's better. It probably would've been fun but not as fun as giving Beast some lessons in seduction. That scene was pretty damn hot in a sensual way,not a pandering one. This type of fanservice is pretty rare in anime but I do wish we'd see more of it. |
| Lots going on in this episode. Sebastian is every bit of the manwhore he acted like and I love it. This show is my guilty pleasure. |
Writtenmuse said: Adding a little to what Adellaeda said above, pretty much everything you mentions IS filler as none of it is in the manga (Beast was Sebastian's first :p). Back when the first anime was made there were not enough chapters out to make a full season so they deviated from the original material. A-1 Pictures likes to do that all the time so it probably would have happened no matter what. So annoying.Also the person who said that the second half of season 1 and season 2 are all fillers your SOO wrong, this is more of a filler than anything else. It can be hard to accept or just confusing if you're so used to the other shows, and there's nothing wrong with preferring the anime-only stuff over the manga material, but your use of the word "filler" itself is incorrect in this case and I had to say something. |
MonochromeAug 16, 2014 7:22 PM
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Writtenmuse said: SPOILERS TO SEASON 1!!! So I love this series and this season is great but I have some HUGE qualms. Now I understand where this season falls in the story line of the first however there are some huge details that should have remained consistent between the three seasons. In some parts I feel like when they made this one they never went back and watch the first one. Example: 1. Ciel's mark in the first two seasons is on his ribs not his back. 2. When his parents died the house was engulfed in flames. 3. His parents were sewn together via the angel, not just lying dead on the floor. 4. Sebastian came to Ciel in the form of a crow, not as himself. 5. Sebastian makes Ciel close his eyes in the first one so he doesn't see his true form, so why would he have come to him in? Sorry I'm a stickler for detail and these really bother me, and whats worse is i know there will be more as the season goes on. As a stand alone is great but when you consider it part of the whole series it has quite a few flaws. Also the person who said that the second half of season 1 and season 2 are all fillers your SOO wrong, this is more of a filler than anything else. And the person who said they've never seen Sebastian do that before is also off because he uses this tactic in the church, he even kind of brags about it to the angel lol. Sorry to break it to you, but the seasons you are talking about ARE fillers and the studio don't have to bother with those details in the Book of Circus since it is completely CANON. They are following the manga, they messed up everything in S1 and S2 (total filler). I understand your reasons, but when you forget the first two seasons, this is much better because they should have followed the manga since the very beginning but they decided not to, and that's how those seasons emerged and ruined everything. Since something comes out straight from the original idea, it is not filler at all, though you feel like it is. The house could have been engulfed in a big fire after they took Ciel away. This was Madame Red's memory. What we saw with little Ciel seeing his parents murdered is before the burning of the mansion. There was NEVER an angel in the manga. Sebastian showing as a crow was probably the studio's idea when they started S1. In the manga, he sees him. In the anime... i don't know why they made it looks like Ciel doesn't know his true form. About Ciel's mark - studio probably decided to change its place. Do you want to watch another season of KS fillers? Personally, i am more than happy to see they are doing the manga justice and follow it because this is how the settings, the atmmosphere and the characters should have been from the start. You should not consider this season part of the previous ones. See it as something separated which is more... true to how things should be, in terms of everything. Since it follows the canon, nothing in the previous seasons is required to be mentioned/explained/shown. I hope i didn't make it look like i'm angry at you or something. |
naens said: "All the time" may have been an exaggeration due to my frustration with them as I see that Kuroshitsuji and Ao no Exorcist are the only shows they drastically changed with filler. Fairy Tail also has a lot, but that's natural for long-running shounen. People who watched Magi seem to be divided with the changes (which is more of a rushed story than fillers I believe), I haven't checked it out yet despite enjoying the manga. Those are the only bad ones I know of :xMonochrome said: What are other examples for which they made the same thing? Will they do it again for Kuroshitsuji?Back when the first anime was made there were not enough chapters out to make a full season so they deviated from the original material. A-1 Pictures likes to do that all the time so it probably would have happened no matter what. So annoying. There really is no reason for them to add more filler since there are two fairly long arcs after the Murder OVA story, which could probably fit in a 20 or so episode series. So we can only hope at this point. |
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| @ichii_1 and others: I thought the 2 Ciel Theory was over with the recent chapters...? (Somewhere between the last 1-3 chapters.) Like, it literally explained the flashback, and it was pretty complete I'd say... Won't spoil it for you folks, but you might want to go read it if you haven't already. @naens: If you haven't read the manga, you can watch season 1 with no problem. Season 2 is completely original so it might be fine for you as well. Anyways, Sebastian, this guy. It's nice that he's basically flawless, but his evil side is so fun to watch. I was definitely snicking through that scene. Plus I believe he did it with his hands... he only got his gloves dirty after all. :P Shame that the other adaptations don't do the same justice to the manga. Aside from content, this 10 episode series has retained the darker nature, which is really nice. :) |
| Next episode sh!t gets real :( You can clearly see a kid like Ciel getting stabbed then it goes to the Ciel in the cage and Sebastian talking about a sacrifice, how is that all in his mind? the people there all died for real and why is Sebastian talking too him in the cage and not on the altar if that was really Ciel? that it was his trauma thing is stupid. Mirorin said: @ichii_1 and others: I thought the 2 Ciel Theory was over with the recent chapters...? (Somewhere between the last 1-3 chapters.) Like, it literally explained the flashback, and it was pretty complete I'd say... Won't spoil it for you folks, but you might want to go read it if you haven't already. |
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ichii_1 said: Next episode sh!t gets real :( You can clearly see a kid like Ciel getting stabbed then it goes to the Ciel in the cage and Sebastian talking about a sacrifice, how is that all in his mind? the people there all died for real and why is Sebastian talking too him in the cage and not on the altar if that was really Ciel? that it was his trauma thing is stupid. Mirorin said: @ichii_1 and others: I thought the 2 Ciel Theory was over with the recent chapters...? (Somewhere between the last 1-3 chapters.) Like, it literally explained the flashback, and it was pretty complete I'd say... Won't spoil it for you folks, but you might want to go read it if you haven't already. Ichii we are not discussing that ridiculous theory here. This is suppose to be a discussion on the episode not some disproven fan theory. And if you bothered to pay attention you'd know that Ciel is an ONLY child. It was proven back in chapter 10 pg 16. Madame Red was in the room when he was born. Not only that but all the family pictures had no siblings. Lizzie, Madame Red and Tanaka would have mentioned something about the other by now if there was. I won't go spoiling the recent chapters but it is clear that there is no twin. None. Now stay on topic. Adellaeda said: ichii_1 said: There are 2 Ciels, the one on the table is the one they used as a sacrifice to summon Sebastian, that means he is real and not in Ciel's mind, there are hints everywhere I really, really don't like that idea, but I guess in time we will receive answers. If the idea of 2 Ciels will be revealed to be true, then I'll be half surprised and half disappointed. Ciel, losing his innocence (I still wonder if he means his virginity by that), his name, and title and power, and then regaining them back, with the help of Sebastian is more entertaining for me. It's somehow like the legend of the Phoenix. The theory with two Ciels would mean that Ciel was a no one, and because of some tragical events, he gained power, a title, wealth and a family. In this case, I won't like Ciel that much anymore. His situation won't look as bad as it does now (and that IS part of who he is). That's why, for the time being, I'll stick with lovelyphantom's idea, that Sebastian found him between life and death, (or PTSD) and his memories are distorted. Besides, he remembers his childhood, being sick, playing with Lizzy, and that night when he found his parents dead. And, I think Madame Red, Lizzy, Tanaka would notice if he was a fake (the idea of a brother, I dismiss from the start. There is no brother in any photo, or any memory, he's or Lizzy's). Writtenmuse said: As a stand alone is great but when you consider it part of the whole series it has quite a few flaws. It's not part of the whole. You could say it's a remake, straight from the manga, which the other two seasons didn't stuck to. I'm not gonna lie, I loved the first two seasons. That made me read the manga. And I loved the manga even more. And now this season. I'm in heaven and totally, irrevocably obsessed. If this season would be part of the other two, as you say, as a third season, then Ciel would be a demon now, which he's not. THIS IS NOT THE THIRD SEASON, PEOPLE. THIS IS A DIFFERENT ADAPTATION (or better said, the real adaptation) edit: it could be that we see something from the past, but I don't think so. That would mean that the second season is legit and is the end of the story. And I really doubt that Yana Toboso would give in an anime such a big spoiler for the end of her own (still ongoing) manga. Nice argument Adellaede. Too true, she wouldn't. But now we are getting off topic with the discussion of some ridiculous theory and what is and isn't canon of the previous seasons. We probably should get back to discussing this episode rather than outside it before we get yelled at by a forum mod. Mirorin said: @ichii_1 and others: I thought the 2 Ciel Theory was over with the recent chapters...? (Somewhere between the last 1-3 chapters.) Like, it literally explained the flashback, and it was pretty complete I'd say... Won't spoil it for you folks, but you might want to go read it if you haven't already. @naens: If you haven't read the manga, you can watch season 1 with no problem. Season 2 is completely original so it might be fine for you as well. Anyways, Sebastian, this guy. It's nice that he's basically flawless, but his evil side is so fun to watch. I was definitely snicking through that scene. Plus I believe he did it with his hands... he only got his gloves dirty after all. :P Shame that the other adaptations don't do the same justice to the manga. Aside from content, this 10 episode series has retained the darker nature, which is really nice. :) It was, but some people can't let it go. LOL, it is always fun to watch, I was laughing at that scene too.. Oh Sebastian... You evil tease. |
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| Ah... the episode started with how sad and horrible a part of Ciel's childhood was after his parents were murdered and he bought by those awful people... We also got to the see the moment when Madame Red tried to kill Ciel after he found out that she was Jack the Ripper (together with Sutcliff). Considering what Beast just said, I'd say that they kidnap kids for that "father" of theirs. LOL, Sebastian is the master of seduction XD. Soma cares so much about Ciel T.T Agni and Soma were freaking hilarious. So the circus guys are planning to attack Ciel's mansion huh... now that's one meeting and fight I can't wait to see. |
| "Let justice be done, though the heavens fall." |
| I know many say that the creator of the manga wanted the series to be yaoi, but I've never seen the two characters like this... but if she says it's so then it must be. I instead like to take a more interesting approach to it. Sebastian is crafty and often uses seduction as a way to get what he wants. He also has a otherworldly connection to Ciel that is very complex and intriguing. Male and female characters often find him sexy and he uses it to his advantage. I wish we knew what demon he actually is. Regardless of which side you find yourselves on, we all love this series and Sebastian. I can't wait to see more and am very sad that there are only 4 episodes left! I hope they produce more! Loved this episode by the way... And I think Sebastian is only using his hands... but maybe not... |
| Spending more time thinking about the fictional world than reality. |
| This trivial thing bothers me so much... why is the candy wrapper clear, and shrinks in the fire? At first I suspected it was wax paper, but now I can't help but realize that it's plastic_ which wasn't invented until 1907 and wasn't really used as candy wrappers until around 1920. GAHHHH! I really shouldn't be bothered by this! :'-( |
| Hmmm Sebastian once more whores himself out for the sake of the mission. |
| Sebastian does it again! I feel bad for Beast though :/ Doll will likely die :( |
AozureSep 3, 2014 11:54 AM
| The way Sebastian interrogates people is very interesting, this is the second time he's done this so far too. |
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| PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLRTRTTTTTT. Sebastian is handeling the woman pretty well. Even I get fangirl feelings even though I don't like fangirlism. XD |
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SEBASTIAN YOU PERV You really are One Hell Of A Womanizer  |
| Pretty impressive development! Let's see what happens next. |
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| I didn't think that Sebastian would go that far. 0_0. I was like "Go Sebastian Go!!" New found respect. |
| Sebastian noes hoe to give a girl a great tym even for one night .... and he doesnt even take off his clothes xD ! haha...i dont mind being in beast's position :3 xD sebastian is totally irresistible <3 ahem...apart frm tht ciels memories and madam red's too really come out well together.... ^_^ book of circus is really an interesting OVA ... possibly one of th best i have seen :) |
| wow.. Sebastian got info out of that chick... James Bond style. I knew those circus peeps are being forced to kidnap those kids but that doesn't justify it one bit. They will get what's coming to them soon |
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| ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Sebastian what are u doing . |
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| Ahh DAMNN You Sebastian Michaelis. I really hate him when he does things like THAT. |
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| where's the fire (no pun intended)? what i mean is, it's a fire that took down the manor, but where is it? if you look at the first seconds of the episode you just seen an empty wall. way to miss an important detail guys...>_> |
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| Damn you and your demonic charms Sebastian, seducing women like its nothing |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Oh, wow Sebastian! that was hella hot, you seduced me xD It was funny and hot at the same time, but mostly hot. I want that ;) He sure does know how to seduce a woman and take them to bed to extract information. Who wouldn't fall for the allure he brings? lol. He's the master seducer ;) Prince and Agni saying Sebastian should look after Ciel's health, well, that was surprising. I'm surprised Sebastian took it so well lol. |
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| FUCK! OHMYGOD SEBBY FUCKED ANOTHER WOMAN. I'M NOT OKAAAAY. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITCHU!?!?! *dies from jealousy* Lmfaojk. He gets hotter whenever he does that. I can't contain my emotions. Fuck you, Sebastian! ;-; Ciel looks like a baby when Sebby's carrying him. He's so cute I caaan't. I'm so thankful that Agni and Prince Soma is in this arc. They're literally the comic relief of this anime. Hihi. I love them two soooo much. :') Poor Doll, maaan. :'( I hope she'll be saved or everyone of them who are nice in that circus. Jeez. Such a good episode and I hope Sebby will tell Elizabeth that Ciel slept with a girl beside him. Hihihihi. I wanna see her adorable reaction. :D |
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| Hot damn, Beast got tamed. |
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| There are some pretty interesting foreshadowing moments. For one the book that William has foreshadows the events of Joker in later episodes. The letter foreshadows the events at Ciel's mansion. William's words about Seb. foreshadow his events with Beast and so on... so awesome! Another thing about this episode is that we see a lot about why the Circus kidnaps and murders innocences (policemen). I guess it all started out when Joker became the first killer and then he brought Beast and the rest of them into it. Doll was the newcomer so that's why (green) is so untrustworthy of them. We clearly see that Beast or Doll doesn't want to kidnap and murder but Joker and FATHER force them to even though they could leave with the Circus. I wonder why.. I mean if my guardian angel who helped me get out of a hothouse told me to do such things and I was in a position where I could say no (like being the ringleader of a circus) I would gladly say no! Is it that hard to find another patron? They are talented, have skills, are experienced they can find another patron who isn't insane. This episode supports my reason that Joker is one selfish guy who takes the "easy route" and doesn't care for no one but himself, even putting up his persona of niceness. |
| Good episode again. I wonder what and how is sebastian doing that. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Yoooo what the hell Sebastian why'd get your precious gloves dirty |
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| Sebastian showing once again why he is the most popular husbando. |
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| Sebastian and the women, with Beast now! I love how Ciel is pampered by Prince Soma! 😂 |
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