SolviteSekai said: The people acting like 7k for NGNL isnt a lot are casuals and/or new to anime. 7k is really really good for shows that arent ludicrously popular like SAO or Monogatari. For reference, Kill la Kill also only sold about 8k. Not even 2 months ago NGNL was sitting at 2k on stalker. Id call this a win. Kill La Kill is sitting at a 10k+ average. |
matthew521 said: SolviteSekai said: The people acting like 7k for NGNL isnt a lot are casuals and/or new to anime. 7k is really really good for shows that arent ludicrously popular like SAO or Monogatari. For reference, Kill la Kill also only sold about 8k. Not even 2 months ago NGNL was sitting at 2k on stalker. Id call this a win. Wow, that's awesome to know! I've never really looked at any of these sales things before, so could anyone tell me how much is a volume? Like, are all 12 episodes of NGNL considered volume 1? No it will be 2 or 3 episodes per volume. Madhouse will continue NGNL, they almost never have shows that sell other than HxH anymore. And if you look at how mahoukas numbers have been dropping like a rock, madhouse might need a sure thing soon. rederoin said: SolviteSekai said: The people acting like 7k for NGNL isnt a lot are casuals and/or new to anime. 7k is really really good for shows that arent ludicrously popular like SAO or Monogatari. For reference, Kill la Kill also only sold about 8k. Not even 2 months ago NGNL was sitting at 2k on stalker. Id call this a win. Kill La Kill is sitting at a 10k+ average. Its first week sales were 8k. That was my point. Also my other point was that Casuals look at SAO selling 30k and assume any show thats popular sells that much. It doesnt work that way. |
SolviteSekai said: [ Its first week sales were 8k. That was my point. Also my other point was that Casuals look at SAO selling 30k and assume any show thats popular sells that much. It doesnt work that way. KlK was a 2-cour show, you can't really compare V1W1 to v1w1 of a 1-cour show. KlK is clearly the better selling of the 2. Not to mention how KlK had no event ticket boost, while NGNL did. Just a tip, you don't need to leave a blank sentence in-between each sentence. |
rederoinJul 1, 2014 10:49 AM
Progeusz said: Hoppy said: I fail to see any connection.There is a lot of merchandise from Date A Live that came prior to S2's airing. It's called a prediction. I'm gonna predict (with reason) that Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka? will get a season 2, calling it XD Based on it selling about as well as Kirino Mosiac-which got another season and they're in the same magazine too-. The positive reaction of the fans and the all the business crossover/promotion (ramen shops, restaurants etc.) http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/05/is-the-order-a-rabbit-tv-anime-collaborates-with-ramen-shops and the all the merchandise it will sell. |
ichii_1Jul 1, 2014 11:21 AM
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| YEEEEEEEEEEEEY Mekaku made it <3 9000+!!!!! |
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ichii_1 said: He said it as a fact, not a prediction. Also, it wasn't about existence of S2 but about WHEN S2 was created. I find it hard to believe that S2 was prepared before S1 ended (to be more precise I consider it total bullshit). Considered to make in the future - obviously. Already prepared - nope.It's called a prediction. |
| 11. *1,064 *,**1,064 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic Vol.6 Limited Edition ^ ^-^/ yaaay |
Hanako_ said: 11. *1,064 *,**1,064 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic Vol.6 Limited Edition ^ ^-^/ yaaay Isnt 1k sales bad? |
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Borgia said: It is. Especially for a show which started ~15k.Hanako_ said: 11. *1,064 *,**1,064 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic Vol.6 Limited Edition ^ ^-^/ yaaay Isnt 1k sales bad? |
Progeusz said: Borgia said: It is. Especially for a show which started ~15k.Isnt 1k sales bad? although that is just the DVD sales, so it isn't quite as bad as it looks. Still bad though. |
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JoksPacifist said: I thought NGNL would break the 10k, with all the LN boost. But, I guess that's it. Hum, I guess that the sales will boost if there's a limited edition, but the sales are going good enough, I'm hoping for a S2 =) *2. *4,493 *,**4,493 Kamigami no Asobi Vol.1 I don't get the "japanese tastes"... Was Kamigami no Asobi that good? It was just decent in my opinion. |
cyborgneko999 said: NGNL isn't over 10k? I'm pretty sure the hype was real on MAL & the light novel sales. With those numbers (8k+) season 2 is a must! It sold alot better than the predicted 5-6k. |
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| Naruto ED surprised me, selling out at number 1 ... NICE. |
| I ended up importing No Game No Life, and it's nice to see good sales numbers for it. |
volare1 said: I am looking forward for a minimum 40k and 60k max average for love live 2 with the last volume event ticket boost. Wow at mekaku getting 9k. I guess it will hit 10k+ next week then another 10k for volume 2. Love Live2 Jojo Haikyuu Mekaku / Mahouka for spring top 4?? v2 is ranking a lot lower, so i'm not going to put my bet on v2 hitting 10k. Number 4 will be either Gochiusa, Mahouka or NGNL. Unless they have bigger than expected v2 drops. We also still can't count out Wixoss, who knows how it'll do. |
rederoinJul 1, 2014 6:16 PM
| Sidonia no Kishi at number 6. Top notch, well deserved. |
JoksPacifist said: This is just my observation based on my impression but Mad House never get amazing sales, nor do they get extreme little sales (ex. Death Note only sold 15000, considering its popularity). A 6000-7000 could guarantee a second season, given that a lot of drawing, initial planning, and staff from s1 can be reused.I thought NGNL would break the 10k, with all the LN boost. But, I guess that's it. I can't believe Mekakucity Actors is doing much better than Nisekoi. It seems otaku from area 11 can't distinguish good from bad. |
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rederoin said: MCA was underestimated b y 152%, thats pretty damn big. hmmm, it seems that a big group MCA fans dont use Amazon to buy product |
Pain_is_love said: JoksPacifist said: This is just my observation based on my impression but Mad House never get amazing sales, nor do they get extreme little sales (ex. Death Note only sold 15000, considering its popularity). A 6000-7000 could guarantee a second season, given that a lot of drawing, initial planning, and staff from s1 can be reused.I thought NGNL would break the 10k, with all the LN boost. But, I guess that's it. I can't believe Mekakucity Actors is doing much better than Nisekoi. It seems otaku from area 11 can't distinguish good from bad. The thing is, Mekaku City's fanbase mostly consists of females (many in their teenage years). That is why even the Stalker estimate (which is based on sales performance at Amazon) for Mekaku was so much under the actual Oricon sales, due to sales from storefront contributing more instead of at Amazon. Vol.1 one was cheap and also had a CD bundled with it. Now if you've seen how well the music singles have sold, then it is not surprising that the Mekaku fanbase would much prefer to get the CD bundled than the anime. You can't group male and female otaku together, as they have inherently differing interests most of the time, but there are some anime that have been enjoyed by both genders almost equally. See K-ON! for example. |
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| Way to just continue to ignore all logical and theoretical limitations on the anime market Sunrise. What a month that was. The season that was supposed to culminate in a heat between Love Live and Kagerou Project pretty much just ended up being Love Live and everything else. It's kind of not even fair really. After all that too its still ranking in the top 10 on Amazon and 100k isn't really just a possibility now, its pretty much a given. Never in my wildest dreams did I or probably anyone expect it to be that huge a selling first volume. Aside from that there doesn't seem to be a single sales trend I can really complain about. Most of my favorite shows are getting lots of love while things I'm not so big on (mostly pertaining to mecha "done wrong") aren't doing so great. See the interesting thing I'm noticing is the traditional sci-fi stuff like Unicorn, Sidonia, GiTS, Yamato etc is doing great lately while the sort of hybrid modern otaku sci-fi stuff is doing so bad that it either probably won't chart (Captain Earth) or its release is getting cancelled entirely (M3). Its such a stunning rebuke of a particular approach to the genre and such and embracement of a traditional one that if producers don't get the message than they probably deserve to go out of business. Satelight in particular must just look so undesirable for investors right now. |
PeacingOutJul 2, 2014 1:51 PM
Hahalollawl said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Way to just continue to ignore all logical and theoretical limitations on the anime market Sunrise. What a month that was. The season that was supposed to culminate in a heat between Love Live and Kagerou Project pretty much just ended up being Love Live and everything else. It's kind of not even fair really. After all that too its still ranking in the top 10 on Amazon and 100k isn't really just a possibility now, its pretty much a given. Never in my wildest dreams did I or probably anyone expect it to be that huge a selling first volume. Aside from that there doesn't seem to be a single sales trend I can really complain about. Most of my favorite shows are getting lots of love while things I'm not so big on (mostly pertaining to mecha "done wrong") aren't doing so great. See the interesting thing I'm noticing is the traditional sci-fi stuff like Unicorn, Sidonia, GiTS, Yamato etc is doing great lately while the sort of hybrid modern otaku sci-fi stuff is doing so bad that it either probably won't chart (Captain Earth) or its release is getting cancelled entirely (M3). Its such a stunning rebuke of a particular approach to the genre and such and embracement of a traditional one that if producers don't get the message than they probably deserve to go out of business. Satelight in particular must just look so undesirable for investors right now. Don't take this the wrong way as I've considered myself to be something of a fan of much of Sunrise's work. But if you are annoyed by people cheering for KyoAni or Shaft when their sales have been high, you may want to refrain from cheering too much for Sunrise when their show sells well. Just a suggestion. Amyways, I hope Sunrise takes some of the money they seem to be raking in and put it towards some high quality mecha anime... Sunrise mostly wants to cater mecha to kids now, I'd rather see something I'm 99% sure is good such as a spiritual successor to Love Live. |
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Hahalollawl said: Hoppy said: Sunrise mostly wants to cater mecha to kids now, I'd rather see something I'm 99% sure is good such as a spiritual successor to Love Live. I disagree. Like it or not, I doubt many people would consider Valvrave for kids or at least I don't. As for Buddy complex...well not sure who that was for... Buddy Complex seemed to be geared to a teenage male audience but failed at it. But look at what they are doing to Gundam, the new mothership Gundam installments are a shell of the Gundam anime I loved in the past. Even if Gundam is marketed to kids, at the very least make the series have mecha designs that I can take seriously. I applaud Sunrise for how they handled Love Live but I'm mourning the loss of the Gundam that I truly love. |
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Hahalollawl said: Hoppy said: Sunrise mostly wants to cater mecha to kids now, I'd rather see something I'm 99% sure is good such as a spiritual successor to Love Live. I disagree. Like it or not, I doubt many people would consider Valvrave for kids or at least I don't. As for Buddy complex...well not sure who that was for... Valvrave is a bit different cause that was Aniplex produced with Sunrise animating instead of just Sunrise original. I doubt we'll see that partnership again any time in the near future though cause Aniplex and Bandai Visual who own the studio are pretty much direct competitors. Also I disagree that anything is wrong with Gundam at the moment, it's just continuing to try to expand into new demographics is all. You have your Unicorns and you have your Build Fighters and both are pretty good in their own way IMO. Unless you're talking about a return to classic style Gundam TV series in which case I'm hoping that that's what Reconguista ends up being. For now though I think Bandai/Sunrise has decided that OVA equals for older general audiences while TV means either for younger audiences or for late night otaku. Lets be honest though, the quality of Gundam Unicorn would have been nowhere near what was pretty much movie level had it been a TV series and probably nowhere near as successful either. As for Buddy Complex.....well it's not a bad show but doesn't really stand out in the studios extensives mecha catalogue. The technical aspects of the show are good as ever, but I think Studio 8 should just stick to what it does best and most successfully which is more moe otaku audience oriented shows as opposed to the mecha that the older sub-studios are known for and let them handle it. I think it was probably a bit of a miscalculation to give Buddy Complex to Studio 8, possibly motivated by how aside from that they have yet to have a show that wasn't a notable hit so far this decade. Hahalollawl said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Way to just continue to ignore all logical and theoretical limitations on the anime market Sunrise. What a month that was. The season that was supposed to culminate in a heat between Love Live and Kagerou Project pretty much just ended up being Love Live and everything else. It's kind of not even fair really. After all that too its still ranking in the top 10 on Amazon and 100k isn't really just a possibility now, its pretty much a given. Never in my wildest dreams did I or probably anyone expect it to be that huge a selling first volume. Aside from that there doesn't seem to be a single sales trend I can really complain about. Most of my favorite shows are getting lots of love while things I'm not so big on (mostly pertaining to mecha "done wrong") aren't doing so great. See the interesting thing I'm noticing is the traditional sci-fi stuff like Unicorn, Sidonia, GiTS, Yamato etc is doing great lately while the sort of hybrid modern otaku sci-fi stuff is doing so bad that it either probably won't chart (Captain Earth) or its release is getting cancelled entirely (M3). Its such a stunning rebuke of a particular approach to the genre and such and embracement of a traditional one that if producers don't get the message than they probably deserve to go out of business. Satelight in particular must just look so undesirable for investors right now. Don't take this the wrong way as I've considered myself to be something of a fan of much of Sunrise's work. But if you are annoyed by people cheering for KyoAni or Shaft when their sales have been high, you may want to refrain from cheering too much for Sunrise when their show sells well. Just a suggestion. Amyways, I hope Sunrise takes some of the money they seem to be raking in and put it towards some high quality mecha anime... That was cheering? I was more trying to say that I don't know how they are doing what they are doing particularly of late. I've been a fan of the company for at least a decade now and I'm still not sure how they are able to pretty regularly put out original anime and have it just balloon into a mega-franchise against seemingly all odds (think Tiger and Bunny and a male character in his 30's which the creators even admit was a huge roadblock in even getting it greenlit at first). It just seems so against the trends of the market and what most other studios/producers are doing which is to heavily favor big budget adaptations of the most popular Light Novels, Games, and Manga. I legitimately don't know how you can just sidestep and ignore these rather obvious trends continually. |
PeacingOutJul 2, 2014 7:51 PM
Hahalollawl said: Hoppy said: Buddy Complex seemed to be geared to a teenage male audience but failed at it. But look at what they are doing to Gundam, the new mothership Gundam installments are a shell of the Gundam anime I loved in the past. Even if Gundam is marketed to kids, at the very least make the series have mecha designs that I can take seriously. I applaud Sunrise for how they handled Love Live but I'm mourning the loss of the Gundam that I truly love. Well if you're just referring to Gundam and not Sunrise mecha overall then maybe...well...at least we have Aldnoah and Argevollen to look forward to? Even if they're not Gundam/Sunrise... Argevollen is much closer to Gundam so far, Aldnoah.Zero possibly, although the mecha remind me of 1st generation lightweight Armored Cores. |
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Hoppy said: Hahalollawl said: Well if you're just referring to Gundam and not Sunrise mecha overall then maybe...well...at least we have Aldnoah and Argevollen to look forward to? Even if they're not Gundam/Sunrise... Argevollen is much closer to Gundam so far, Aldnoah.Zero possibly, although the mecha remind me of 1st generation lightweight Armored Cores. Wait Argevollen has aired already? When I looked at it the first thing that came to mind was hot blooded super robot show so if that's the case I'm surprised to hear it. Aldnoah in it's promotions though looks and sounds so much like Gundam it could not be more obvious that it's the one that the Aniplex producer was quoting as saying they wanted to try to surpass Gundam with. Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be too much of a carbon copy of the traditional Gundam premise though. Also all 3DCGI mecha designs aside from the ones in Valvrave to name a recent example tend to just look kind of the same to me. Like a cross between an Aestavalis from Nadesico and the Battaroid mode of a Valkyrie from Macross. edit: Actually though they're getting a little better like with Knights of Sidonia and the Aldnoah ones actually don't look at that Aestavalis-ish. I can only hope the CGI in Aldnoah can follow up decently on Knights of Sidonia though cause it's got a pretty tough act to follow in that regard. |
PeacingOutJul 2, 2014 7:59 PM
Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: Argevollen is much closer to Gundam so far, Aldnoah.Zero possibly, although the mecha remind me of 1st generation lightweight Armored Cores. Wait Argevollen has aired already? When I looked at it the first thing that came to mind was hot blooded super robot show so if that's the case I'm surprised to hear it. Aldnoah in it's promotions though looks and sounds so much like Gundam it could not be more obvious that it's the one that the Aniplex producer was quoting as saying they wanted to try to surpass Gundam with. Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be too much of a carbon copy of the traditional Gundam premise though. Also all 3DCGI mecha designs aside from the ones in Valvrave to name a recent example tend to just look kind of the same to me. Like a cross between an Aestavalis from Nadesico and the Battaroid mode of a Valkyrie from Macross. Nope, it airs Tomorrow. Now Aldnoah.Zero surpassing Gundam, I doubt that, that's too good to be true could it hold a candle to at least the more recent Gundam series, it's possible but I wouldn't go in with such high expectations. As for Argevollen, just the mecha seem super robot-esque. |
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rederoin said: It hasn't ranked in the daily ranked for 2 days, it won't go up by 4k. Late nigh tv 1-cour anime tends to be front-loaded(88%-90%) in the first week as far as sales go. In addition to the reasons as stated by rederoin here, Monogatari volumes usually sell 2~2.5k on BD and ~300 on DVD in the 2nd week. Nogenora did not rank above Koimono in the first 3 days of dailies this week, so it's safe to say it won't do anywhere near 4k, unless it had stock issues in the 1st week, and starts ranking well above Koimono on the last 4 days this week. |
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Nidhoeggr said: Thankfully NGNL is not that successful. I am glad The Wind Rises is doing well. >8k first week >Not successful. You need to pay closer attention to anime tv sales. If it manages a 8k average, it'll probably be 250-350% above the average mean of of spring tv shows. Not to mention it broke the record of biggest anime LN sales boost. |
rederoinJul 3, 2014 7:04 AM
rederoin said: Since he said "THAT successful" I'm guessing he means SAO successful or something.Nidhoeggr said: Thankfully NGNL is not that successful. I am glad The Wind Rises is doing well. >8k first week >Not successful. You need to pay closer attention to anime tv sales. If it manages a 8k average, it'll probably be 250-350% above the average mean of of spring tv shows. Not to mention it broke the record of biggest anime LN sales boost. |
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Botato said: rederoin said: Since he said "THAT successful" I'm guessing he means SAO successful or something.>8k first week >Not successful. You need to pay closer attention to anime tv sales. If it manages a 8k average, it'll probably be 250-350% above the average mean of of spring tv shows. Not to mention it broke the record of biggest anime LN sales boost. He'll be glad to know that both make a shitton of money then. |
rederoin said: Oh sweet, Gochiusa hit 10k. Then there's nothing stopping a second season from happening. I hope it's announced soon. |
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