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May 23, 2014 11:55 AM
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I hope somebody finds out how stupid Kunato is for putting his pride first than the survival of the Sidonians.
May 23, 2014 12:02 PM

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Shit I love this series. Oh yeah, three weeks floating together, next mission BAM. Great stuff. Cannot waitt to see what happens.
May 23, 2014 12:12 PM

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Onbuu said:
I wonder if Kunato is running for "Asshole of the Year"award.
Given the nickname you gave him, that would be perfectly fitting lol
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
May 23, 2014 12:27 PM

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Sapewloth said:
Onbuu said:
I wonder if Kunato is running for "Asshole of the Year"award.
Given the nickname you gave him, that would be perfectly fitting lol

He's more of a jealous idiot than an asshole though.
May 23, 2014 12:32 PM

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Kunato #1 douche, like, holy crap. I hope he dies a painful death in the series tbh.
May 23, 2014 12:37 PM
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Ugh Kunato, this isn't a fucking game. Can't believe he also pushed the blame on Nagate for "killing" Hoshijiro. AND he told Nagate "don't even think about blaming me." Well good for him that Nagate has patience that is out of this world.

Hm they changed a few things. I remember it snowing when Nagate and Izana went out, and he got pretty beat up by a few citizens, though as always with their changes, it's no biggie. I also liked Nagate's flashback as a child with his grandfather, which I think is anime original content. And yay, Yuhata finally gets her time to shine! Except I don't remember seeing her as the commander's aide at this time. Again, it's fine, because I liked the scene where the Seii tells Yuhata that she has great talent, as well as how she would be wasted as a pilot. Overall, great episode, and nice cliffhanger.
May 23, 2014 12:46 PM

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Ferax said:
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7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something?


12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated.


only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene



Just 12?

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May 23, 2014 12:58 PM

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I am not buying it. Sorry, I just can't.

It is one thing to want to control Tanikaze and not want him seen as hero but this is flat out retarded.
I love this show, it is briliant, but I can not get over this.

Kunato risked WHOLE mission, potentially placing Sidonia at risk of extermination and nobody is gonna bat an eyelash? Da fuck?
Further on, Kunato could not have known upper command sees Tanikaze as risk and will not check recording. By doing what he did he not only endangered every single person on mission (himself included) but he was pretty much guaranteed to get sentenced death penalty upon return.

His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character.
As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies.

What he did was not a plan, it was suicide by all means.
Either by he hands of Gauna or court martialed immediately upon return.
Now, this could be wrong if he knew higher-ups consider Tanikaze a risk, but it was not shown or even given a hint of that.

I am still holding this show in very high regard, the animation seems to have stepped up as well, visually this episode looked marvelous, sounds have always been great, atmosphere is great, story and events were explained very well up to this point.
This last part is the exact reason I hated this episode.
Unlike everything up to this point, it made no sense. None.

2/5 for this episode, 8/10 so far for the show.
May 23, 2014 1:00 PM

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KazuhoYoshii said:
Ferax said:
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7 dead, that makes 12 deaths in battle so far. Damn, and they only have like 256 pilots or something?


12 deaths is nothing compared to Gundam lol. But yes I agree this is a great anime and very underrated.


only 12 pilots deaths without counting the ones from the splat scene



Just 12?






nina4life said:

It is one thing to want to control Tanikaze and not want him seen as hero but this is flat out retarded.
I love this show, it is briliant, but I can not get over this.


Considering Council had no qualms discussing about offing him, I'd say they would see this as an win/win - They still can control him. They have scapegoat for people's hatred. AND they have a martyr to rally the masses to their cause. AND they have a new "hero" public face that they actually can blackmail if they actually gathered up the evidence.


Kunato risked WHOLE mission, potentially placing Sidonia at risk of extermination and nobody is gonna bat an eyelash? Da fuck?

There's a reason for that.

Further on, Kunato could not have known upper command sees Tanikaze as risk and will not check recording. By doing what he did he not only endangered every single person on mission (himself included) but he wasnpretty much guaranteed to get sentenced death penalty upon return.

I honestly doubt he though things through beyond "ha ha, puny Nagate will look bad now instead of me"

His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character.
As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies.

He is smart student. But he is a fool.
He is still an average rich teenager, jealous of the new-kid taking away his position he achieved with all of his hard-work, with no effort at all.

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May 23, 2014 1:01 PM
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Man, I expected Kunato to have been behind it. Sneaky SOB, I wonder why no one checks the communications logs. But Tanikaze gets back on the saddle very quickly and I look forward to seeing him kick tail next ep.

The scene with the Captain floating in zero G was beautiful but strangely ominous. I don't think those protesters are going to get very far to be honest.

Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series?

I've said before, but I'll say it again: The sound on this series is amazing. I recently got some brand new circumaural headphones from a certain well known German brand, and Sidonia has some sound effects that you expect in multimillion dollar Hollywood blockbusters.
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May 23, 2014 1:06 PM

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nina4life said:
His plan was not smart or calculated or whatever, it was both stupid, nonsensical and, I dare say, out of character.
As big of an asshole he is he was also shown as 2nd place fighter on that training tournament, great and smart student and is capable of making strategies.


It was not.
He worked hard his entire life to earn his title, and then all of a sudden some rookie gets special treatment. Of course he will get jealous, frustrated, and wants to do something about it. Actions by someone with this kind of motivation are not always smart and calculated, on the contrary, they are usually stupid.

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May 23, 2014 1:08 PM
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I gotta start reading the manga. It's sad to see changes made in the story...I mean why would they change it in the first place?

Anyways, episode 7 was pretty good but the impression I'm getting from the posts in general is that I got to start reading the manga, which I don't mind doing.


The changes have been pretty tiny so far.
May 23, 2014 1:10 PM

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Marzan said:
Man, I expected Kunato to have been behind it. Sneaky SOB, I wonder why no one checks the communications logs. But Tanikaze gets back on the saddle very quickly and I look forward to seeing him kick tail next ep.

The scene with the Captain floating in zero G was beautiful but strangely ominous. I don't think those protesters are going to get very far to be honest.

Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series?

I've said before, but I'll say it again: The sound on this series is amazing. I recently got some brand new circumaural headphones from a certain well known German brand, and Sidonia has some sound effects that you expect in multimillion dollar Hollywood blockbusters.

You know I'm glad this series is a CGI and yeah the sound effects are definitely top class.
May 23, 2014 1:11 PM

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Marzan said:

Anyone notice that the flashback scene with the grandpa was in standard2D character design? I wonder what the score would be on MAL if they had done "conventional" animation for this series?


If this instead catered to lowest common denominator and did every single generic thing possible, instead of having its own distinct identity, this would be called Mahouka.
May 23, 2014 1:16 PM

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Quality time yet again. I got some serious eargasms when the Gardes accelerated.

I loved the scene in which the captain of the ship was floating in the light.

Usually she only shows up so prim and proper, but there she was floating around naked.
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Fai said:
*random Mahouka bash*

Oh c'mon, don't start this now...
The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way.
May 23, 2014 1:30 PM
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Seems like they speeding up the plot compared to the manga, introducing characters much early on and now Yuhata is already assistant commander.

May 23, 2014 1:35 PM

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Botato said:
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*random Mahouka bash*

Oh c'mon, don't start this now...
The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way.


Bashing Mahouka aside (I do that enough on Mahouka threads, no reason to repeat anything here), was it just me getting used to animations or was this episode simply beautiful?

The opening fight with gauna looked amazing. Unlike first 2 episodes where I could barely see what is going on during the fights everything seemed fluent and clear and easily recognizable.
Again, maybe it's just me getting used to CGI, but it felt different.

Also, personally, I think CGI adds flavor to this show. I hated it at first and now I couldn't imagine these characters in any other form.
There was another show with similar CGI, Kingdom, I hated the guts out of that one though. Not only were characters as obnoxious as it gets but CGI looked worse and worse each new episode. Not here though.
May 23, 2014 1:38 PM

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Botato said:
Fai said:
*random Mahouka bash*

Oh c'mon, don't start this now...
The thread is going brilliantly discussing Sidonia, let us keep it this way.

He's right...mahouka isn't worth being mentioned here.
May 23, 2014 1:44 PM
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Good episode. Kind of glad they left out the Tanikaze bashing scene. Sort of felt unnesscary in the manga. Next weeks ep should be awesome.
May 23, 2014 1:58 PM

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I'm not arsed whether this show is working as CGI or not, the atmosphere it's creating is brilliant.
May 23, 2014 2:01 PM

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Wow Kunato. Just wow.

So... Yuhata will be the next Captain? And also, wth happend to the Gauna? It as brutal, Shizuka's death.
The world shall know the truth soon.
May 23, 2014 2:06 PM

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SweetCoconut said:

So... Yuhata will be the next Captain?


Considering the current one already been there for 600 years, I'd say that's unlikely.
May 23, 2014 2:10 PM

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SweetCoconut said:
Wow Kunato. Just wow.

So... Yuhata will be the next Captain?


No, she will replace Seii.
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Kunato, you bitch!
May 23, 2014 2:37 PM

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Suddenly everyone forgets he soled that Gauna 2 eps ago.Fcuking retards.
May 23, 2014 2:45 PM
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Anyone else feel that this episode felt more cohesive and better directed than previous episodes despite changes from the manga?
May 23, 2014 3:24 PM

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Bastard Kunato. He was responsible for the whole thing going wrong, not Tanikaze.
Activates private channel with Tanikaze then tells 'em to detonate >_<
She died saving Tanikae :(

Midorikawa is a executive officer now :D
Nice to see Hiyama and Izana helping him out in getting over what happened.
May 23, 2014 3:26 PM

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Man this anime is starting to suck the main character Nagate is soooo pathetic
May 23, 2014 3:31 PM

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This episode was a lot better than the other ones. It didn't feel that slow or dead.

MC gets framed for something he didn't do. Everyone hates him and doubts his abilities. He then proves his doubters wrong by doing something some would consider 'crazy'. Then defeats the big bad monster and is a hero again. The guy that frames him either dies or his framing of the MC gets revealed and his hard-built reputation is ruined. MC is innocent and forgiven.

Oh, come on! Do you really expect that kind of thing to happen? Pfff...
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Never heard of a story like that before.

Stop shitposting already.
May 23, 2014 4:03 PM

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Sucks to have internal evil to deal with.
He bounced back pretty well.
May 23, 2014 4:03 PM

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Welp, it's official. Kunato needs to die...and those two no-names that threw those rocks as well. Nagate better kick ass soon (specifically Kunto's) or I'm dropping this show.

Hoshijiro :(
May 23, 2014 4:13 PM

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KUNATOOOO
May 23, 2014 4:17 PM

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I also don't understand why didn't Tanikaze report this to the command and just stays quiet. This is so unrealistic that it kills the whole impression from this episode.
May 23, 2014 4:38 PM

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I also don't understand why didn't Tanikaze report this to the command and just stays quiet. This is so unrealistic that it kills the whole impression from this episode.


Because Tanikaze also sees girl's death as his own fault. He does not blame Kunato for it.
May 23, 2014 4:43 PM

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andreyv said:
I also don't understand why didn't Tanikaze report this to the command and just stays quiet. This is so unrealistic that it kills the whole impression from this episode.


Maybe because he doesn't have the communication record and no one would buy his story? And he also feels guilty for what happened to Hoshijiro like @Fai said.
May 23, 2014 5:04 PM

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Whyyyy Kunato?? Stop messing around.
I wasn't expecting much of this show at the beginning, but it is becoming pretty good
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Onuma said:
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I also don't understand why didn't Tanikaze report this to the command and just stays quiet. This is so unrealistic that it kills the whole impression from this episode.


Maybe because he doesn't have the communication record and no one would buy his story? And he also feels guilty for what happened to Hoshijiro like @Fai said.


I seriously doubt an almost entirely military focused Sidonia doesn't have ALL radio transmissions, private or not. Not that he'd get permission to see it anyway.

I do however agree that Tanikaze feels he's the one at fault for Hoshijiro dying so he's not complaining too much.
May 23, 2014 5:14 PM

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This anime is so freaking amazing. Kunato is such a jerk. Tanikaze had every right to request an investigation into Kunato's private chat log with him but it looks like Tanikaze decided that in the end his own actions contributed to Hoshijiro's death. Hope he can redeem himself and also get revenge on Kunato.

Also want to mention that the CGI animation, OST and sound effects are top notch. I look forward to this anime every week because these in addition to the storyline are awesome.

5/5
May 23, 2014 5:24 PM

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The reason Kunato isn't facing a court martial right now is because he's from an elite family, whilst Tanikaze is basically a nobody.
May 23, 2014 5:33 PM
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Too bad, Hoshijiro sacrificed her life to save Tanikaze.

The Gauna taking Hoshijito's garde form, it was kind of surprising.
May 23, 2014 5:52 PM

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The beating of Tanikaze was far less violent than it was portrayed in the manga. With that being said I haven't read up that much further past the anime, so I'm hoping that Kunato gets some kind of gruesome death later on, it's only fair considering what he did.
May 23, 2014 6:10 PM

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Man, Kunato is such an ass.
I hope he gets his just desserts soon.

Really sucks for Tanikaze, he just went from zero to hero back to zero again. This should really be interesting though, I know the Gauna can change and adapt, but the Gaunas to turn into Gardes is pretty damn crazy. I'm curious how they'll fight in comparison.
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May 23, 2014 6:33 PM

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Dat cliffhanger....


I wonder what his reaction to Hoshijiro's frame will be.
May 23, 2014 6:45 PM

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Hahaha, 紅天蛾キタ──────(゚∀゚)──────!! Best girl next episode....

One thing I hate about this show, and the manga, are the obvious chapter/episode names. "Akai Mochizuni's Glory"...."Salute to Hoshijiro"...they're so going to die.... " And now "Undead"....freaking obvious.
May 23, 2014 7:15 PM

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Ok, i don't remember the last time some character really pissed me off like kunato in this epi. seriously i was with a letter in my hands and i tore it apart without Realizing it xD. This is the worst kind of person, they don't admit when someone is better than them.

Although hoshijiro's death was not directly his fault because Nagate should have reacted sooner to the gauna attack.
May 23, 2014 7:42 PM

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Added Kunato into to-kill list. This guy really is one of my most hated type of character. Although it's not entirely his fault that Hoshijro died, he is still responsible for Tanikaze being shocked and he still said "Don't put the blame to me". I hope he will die in a horrible way.
and I was hoping that Nagate at least had punch Kunato's face. But he didn't..
Nagate, show them what you can do
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WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HOSHIJIRO. WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN SHINATOSE INSTEAD. The animation is mind-blowing. I hope to research and re-watch this series in order to understand it fully.
May 23, 2014 8:00 PM

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Kunato working hard and earning his way? I don't see that. He fucks up missions, heck, even risks the Sidonia itself, if he thinks it'll give him an advantage. And he gets handed the squad captain position again and again, despite everytime he commands, his squad fucks up horribly..until Tanikaze gets his shit together and saves the day.

Also, there are exactly two people at f ault for Hoshijiro's death: Hoshijiro, by deciding to rescue Tanikaze, and Kunato, for sabotaging the mission and therefore initating the event chain. Heck, not a single pilot was hit *at all* before Tanikaze detonated his explosives early. And like half the pilots they lost died to the other expliosives, which the Gauna shook off. From what we've seen, this mission would have been flawless without Kunato.

I'm waiting for the anime where the MC doesn't take the blame, but either immediately exposes it by revealing the private communication log, or by hitting the one responsible so hard they never again try do something like this, because their face stil hurts - yes, even if it's been years, who cares, it's anime. Or both.

On the plus side, the Sidona offers incredible career chances. Midorikawa went from pilot trainee directly to commanding the entire fleet as XO..you go girl!
May 23, 2014 8:05 PM
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Would've been a great episode if it wasn't for such a stupidly obvious plot hole. Why didn't anyone bother to look up the transmissions in the mission to find out what happened? I find it hard to believe that none of those mechs have a flight data recorder in each of them when every single aircraft today (military and civilian) all have two of them in each plane.

Also, why is it that no one even bothers to ask Nagate what the hell happened in that mission is beyond me.
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