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| I will certainly cherish the moment when the third season is rising up through the dawn. But it seems like the darkness of night goes even darker. A decade mark will soon pass. Hope is just a mere words at this point. Having another sequel will leave the word 'miracle' to no meaning. I'm trying to speak with poetic-like tone, though I failed miserably, haha... |
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| I'm exactly not happy about the ending. It didn't surprised me I was expecting a lot from this ending so I'm a lil disappointed. 7/10. It needs a third season. But who am I talking that won't gonna happen. Better of read the manga I guess :/ |
| Why the hell is there not even a season 3. ITS FREE FUCKING MONEY YOU GOD DAMN JAPS. IT WOULD BE A BETTER ANIMATION THAN 99.99% GARBAGE ANIME YOU PRODUCE |
| I didn't expect a lot and I'm still left disappointed Same bs going in circles the entire anime but this ending was worse than I'd ever expect. 5/10 for this season |
| supreme master of the godtaste |
| I just have a hole in my chest knowing there isn't going to have any 3rd season. Really enjoyed the show, except some of the talks about negotiations. Good ending, not great, but good enough, knowing that it was supposed to have a sequel. |
| I neither agree nor disagree, on the contrary. |
| And that puts an end to the second season. The episode was not bad, especially the scene of confrontation beetween Eve and Lorence and the ending. However... I don't even know what to say. The whole season felt like a filler between the first one and the third one(which will most likely never come out). Chemistry between the main characters was pleasant to watch, as well as the development of their relationship. Sad as it is, this is the finale I guess. Lawrence and Holo's journey together does not end, but remains untold. Yet, it was a truly nostalgic and pleasant time for me. |
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| a true masterpiece. Too bad no more seasons were made. |
| feel like im too fucking stupid to understand what was going on... |
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| Some journey it has been. Love these type of stories I wish theres more of it. |
| OKAY, FINALLY. "I love you" and a kiss. That scene was all I need. It's been more than 10 years, I don't expect there would be a season 3 because the ending was already good. But if one day there will be a season 3, I will watch it. Of course seeing Holo and Lawrence back would be nice! |
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Emiliaisnumber1 said: HikaruKaneko said: Of topic Aria and Spice and Wolf fan? Kiss me! Even though it’s been 13 years so your probably long gone XD, anyways this was really another amazing episode, and even though we will never get a season 3 the anime only conclusion was great!God I love this show....I was so satisfied by this episode and this season I'm going to give this a 10 and raise last season to a 10. I like this show too much for it to be rated anything else. I am definitely craving a 3rd season. Hey, I'm still here! I just generally don't post anymore. It's actually a bit weird reading my post from so long ago. Even after all this time, I would still be excited about more Spice and Wolf. |
| Is this how it really ends? or is there more? |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| I just finished watching the anime and had a pretty hard time understanding the politics and trading stuff but I did understand one thing. Holo best girl |
G_ExcelMar 12, 2022 11:53 PM
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| I found the first season to be a bit better and more charming, still a solid 2nd season. 8/10. |
| Wait thats it? This end was just like the entire season: A hot mess. I understand the source didnt plan for this to be a big epic finale but still this feels weird as the conclusion for the anime. The entire season was just 2 arcs and both were individually meh, while atleast holo was more involved in the second one. Idk this season was super weak, barely any relationship developement, lots of unnecessary drama baiting, boring side characters and it all just gets repeated so it feels like there is no progress. I mean really what happened here: Arc 1: Lawrence stopped someone else from paying Holos debt. Arc 2: Obviously Lawrence gets betrayed again while making a big deal and he still manages to "free" Holo. We got more interesting situations in season 1, and by more I mean better and well more than just 2. 7/10 weaker than S1 and a disappointing ending which leaves a sour taste. Actually tempted to rate this 6/10. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Well, on this rewatch I can safely say that season 2 was so much worse than season 1 that a lot of my optimism for the upcoming season 3 has diminished. Compared to season 1, this season was horrendously paced: neither of these arcs needed to be six episodes long, and both felt like they were just going in circles to fill out that time. By comparison, each arc in season 1 felt naturally paced and not at all repetitive, nor as overly complicated as this season's arcs were. But my biggest issue this season was the relationship between Lawrence and Holo, or Holo's side of it more specifically. Her "challenge" to Lawrence in the Amarty arc was utterly ridiculous, out-of-character and also so toxic that I'm amazed Lawrence has been able to trust her ever again (and resolving it with a cheap "oh, it was just a misunderstanding, Holo was on Lawrence's side the whole time" only made it worse). And this arc was little better in that regard, with the selling Holo plan being one of the stupidest decisions made in this entire show (not least because Holo actively encouraged it for reasons I will never understand. More to the point, the more romantic this series got, the less I found myself liking Holo: she constantly toys with Lawrence's emotions, physically abuses him far too often (including at key moments like the kiss scene this episode), doesn't even reciprocate when he finally kisses her as she's very clearly been begging for all season and just generally treats him like utter shit. While the existential dread about their differing lifespans is a reasonable concern, it just feels like the writers are doing everything they can to keep their relationship from progressing. And that's just making Holo more and more annoying to me as she constantly flip-flops on what she actually wants from Lawrence. 6/10. Please let the upcoming season 3 be more like season 1, and less like this comparative disappointment. |
| A great sequel, even if I did prefer the first season to some extent. It's main problem in this case was retreading old ground for drama too often, which was accentuated by the longer arcs. It's fortunate that the nuanced character interactions, detailed worldbuilding and stunning environments were still there. Rather than pointless remakes for mainstreamers who will forget the series after watching it anyway, Spice and Wolf would instead benefit from a third season. |
Archean-ReturnOct 13, 2023 3:56 PM
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Reply to Sternengesang
Can someone explain this to me with simplest way? 1.
I have rewatched this, and i still couldn't understand what lawrence realize after he saw the salt statue at rigoro house, i meant lawrence knew eve sold a statue to church but why salt statue become so special?
2. If eve bulk buying fur in that town, then she will interfere with church plan to bulk buying and make a profit from fur, henceforth church will target eve. Am i correct about this part?
3. What happened to the harold the inn owner?
I am really thankful if someone can answer my smol brain question in simplest way
I have rewatched this, and i still couldn't understand what lawrence realize after he saw the salt statue at rigoro house, i meant lawrence knew eve sold a statue to church but why salt statue become so special?
2. If eve bulk buying fur in that town, then she will interfere with church plan to bulk buying and make a profit from fur, henceforth church will target eve. Am i correct about this part?
3. What happened to the harold the inn owner?
I am really thankful if someone can answer my smol brain question in simplest way
| @Sternengesang Can someone explain this to me with simplest way? 1. I have rewatched this, and i still couldn't understand what lawrence realize after he saw the salt statue at rigoro house, i meant lawrence knew eve sold a statue to church but why salt statue become so special? 2. If eve bulk buying fur in that town, then she will interfere with church plan to bulk buying and make a profit from fur, henceforth church will target eve. Am i correct about this part? 3. What happened to the harold the inn owner? I am really thankful if someone can answer my smol brain question in simplest way In regards to your questions here: 1. The reason Lawrence started working with Eve is because she had a big idea to make money and Lawrence believed she just didn't have the money on-hand to execute that plane. Lawrence's role was to just provide the money and Eve had everything else worked out. When Lawrence learned that Eve was a smuggler, he realized that Eve must already have enough money to execute her plan so she brought in Lawrence for a different reason. Lawrence realized that Eve was much more reckless and underhanded than he initially realized and resolved to confront her. The big prize for Lawrence was the inn he would receive in that town that could be turned into his store. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to open a store in the same town where you just screwed over the local church. 2. You are correct. The key point here is that this particular church really only has influence in that city. Eve had no plans of ever returning to this town so she burned all her bridges. The local church also couldn't spread the damning information of Eve because in would implicate them. Eve exclusively worked with the church so the illegal crimes of business she did were also the church's. 3. Harold sold his inn to Eve and went on his pilgrimage. Lawrence was expected to receive the inn as part of his payout when the business venture was completed. Eve had her own side deal with Harold where she bought his inn earlier and he went on his pilgrimage sooner. Eve was most likely going to sell the deed to buy more furs, but she gave it to Lawrence once she decided to spare him. The deed was worth the gold Lawrence had so he ends the ordeal in the same place he started. Lawrence has no business reason to follow Eve. |
| I guess the real profit was the relationship they made along the way Anyway I'm glad this is over. It was nice but the big business venture deal felt really rushed and they never mentioned any of the legends Holo was reading through to "rediscover her past" Was there even a bear in Yoitsu? Are any of Holo's wolf friends/family still alive? Was there a reason she left in the first place? |
| Hmm. The behavior of Holo these last two episodes was kind of weird. She just turned super depressed at the end of ep10. If she didn't tell Lawrence to go for the deal he wouldn't have tried. I don't understand why she suddenly wanted to cut it off with him either. It seemed way too random and unrelated to everything else going on. Her own explanation didn't make sense either and I would be disappointed if it's just "I'm scared to fall in love with you despite telling you that's not it" considering the general writing appeared to be above that so far. Also what was the plan with selling her? Would he have just bought her back with the profit of this deal? But then she wanted to part ways with him anyway. The whole scheme seemed so pointless from a story-telling perspective. I guess this story was just meant to make Lawrence realize he would sacrifice his dream for Holo? Although it's not like he didn't already know that... And Holo was angry at him for that as well (don't really get why that's the case either). I swear this entire season if they just were honest with each other they could have avoided like majority of the drama they caused... I guess the end makes a bit up for that a bit as they finally got a bit closer again. That second half was a lot less enjoyable than the first half though. I really was hoping for more as the start of the season was pretty strong. AlexAvidAnime said: Anyone ready come the 2024 remake? they are supposed to finish the whole story and not just cut it off. been since 2009, about time we get some new content. Generally I'd love to see more of the story adapted. My biggest issue is that the VAs might not be interested anymore and I don't want to hear new voices for Lawrence and Holo. Unless they got both of them back it's going to be a skip for me. Fukuyama Jun is definitely one of the best VA of the past 20 years (despite not having him in my favorites. competition is strong during that time frame haha). And Koshimizu Ami did a phenomenal job for Holo (unfortunately her main roles are out of my interest field so I can't say much about her general proficiency). I really hope they actually get both of them on board and are able to adapt the entire LN in that case! |
| Amazing final and anime overall hope it got a season 3 and dint just end like that I am looking forward to the remake but I doubt it'll be able to top seasons 1 and 2 of the original solid 9/10 |
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| Now I know why people hated season 2. We don't know what happened to Eve. Also, the season ended when it feels like it needs an episode or two to finish the arc. I'll proceed with the remake, and hope it does better than the OG. I want to see Norah again anyway. ETA: 4/10 the entire season, which is quite a downgrade. |
patkarununganApr 25, 7:03 AM
| So we got some loose ends that need to be tied up, but overall not TOO cliff-hanger-y. Still ends kind of abruptly though; doesn't wrap up as nicely as season 1 did. Idc though, am just glad it's over and that I have the original to compare the currently-airing remake to. 5/10 for season 2; which more or less feels similar to season 1, but I personally was really bored throughout this one. Want to give it a 4 even, but I wouldn't call it "bad", so 5 it is. Just seemed to have lost the charm from the first season, and felt like a chore to get through. edit: actually no fuck it I'm giving it the 4 |
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