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Apr 22, 2014 1:16 PM

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I'm fucking clapping right now. THAT.. that, was one of the best Hunter x Hunter episodes ever made. That is all I can say right now. Amazing.
Apr 22, 2014 1:16 PM

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Just finished the episode and OMG that was just awesome! Dat animation, the ost, voice actors of Netero and Meruem were phenomenal.. loved every second of it!! This might become my favorite action episodes, can't wait to see it in HD.

R.I.P Chairman Netero and thank you for your service!!!
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Apr 22, 2014 1:18 PM

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That was one of the best episodes I've seen in anime, ever. ∞/5
Apr 22, 2014 1:20 PM
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tsudecimo said:
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It's really impossible to discuss with you, you are such an annoying being
Why the hell do you think Netero assumed Zeno ONLY to separate the king from the royal guards? If Netero didn't already plan to explode, he would have assumed him to fight with the King too, but evidently you are too stupid to understand such a simple thing.

It's not my fault that you can't gasp the actual hints.

Assumed? what? do you mean another word here?



Netero hired Zeno only to separate the King, he didn't pay him to fight with him because of the high money fee he would pay, that was Netero's reason as stated by him, if I remember correctly. That's not specifically relevant to the bomb, since it could have been written as Netero being confident in winning by himself.

Relax guy. Don't blame you inability to express your thoughts clearly and your lack of deductive reasoning on me.
tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

It's really impossible to discuss with you, you are such an annoying being
Why the hell do you think Netero assumed Zeno ONLY to separate the king from the royal guards? If Netero didn't already plan to explode, he would have assumed him to fight with the King too, but evidently you are too stupid to understand such a simple thing.

It's not my fault that you can't gasp the actual hints.

Assumed? what? do you mean another word here?

Netero hired Zeno only to separate the King, he didn't pay him to fight with him because of the high money fee he would pay, that was Netero's reason as stated by him, if I remember correctly. That's not specifically relevant to the bomb, since it could have been written as Netero being confident in winning by himself.

Relax guy. Don't blame you inability to express your thoughts clearly and your lack of deductive reasoning on me.
tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

It's really impossible to discuss with you, you are such an annoying being
Why the hell do you think Netero assumed Zeno ONLY to separate the king from the royal guards? If Netero didn't already plan to explode, he would have assumed him to fight with the King too, but evidently you are too stupid to understand such a simple thing.

It's not my fault that you can't gasp the actual hints.

Assumed? what? do you mean another word here?

Netero hired Zeno only to separate the King, he didn't pay him to fight with him because of the high money fee he would pay, that was Netero's reason as stated by him, if I remember correctly. That's not specifically relevant to the bomb, since it could have been written as Netero being confident in winning by himself.

Relax guy. Don't blame you inability to express your thoughts clearly and your lack of deductive reasoning on me.



Call it an aspull or whatever you want but the way Togashi sets up his ideas for an arc is different from others. He plans the start and ending of the arc first and asks himself questions like "How can I resolve the arc/ fights in a way that hasn't been done before?"
He attempts to create an unique ending or resolution that few or none has done before and avoids shonen clichés.

And after that the middle part of the arc is what he has to come up with as he goes.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:20 PM

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I want to give Hunter x Hunter all of my 10s.
This is truly a masterpiece.
Apr 22, 2014 1:22 PM

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I've been waiting to see this part animated for so long and it was amazing. Some of the stuff coming up could have been handled better but the CA arc is one of my favorite story arcs.
Apr 22, 2014 1:24 PM
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A_Fat_Man said:
I've been waiting to see this part animated for so long and it was amazing. Some of the stuff coming up could have been handled better but the CA arc is one of my favorite story arcs.


Not sure what you think could've been handled better, I was surprised how well they handled the gore of the episode when you compare it to the Killua vs Jones scene
Apr 22, 2014 1:26 PM

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tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

It's really impossible to discuss with you, you are such an annoying being
Why the hell do you think Netero assumed Zeno ONLY to separate the king from the royal guards? If Netero didn't already plan to explode, he would have assumed him to fight with the King too, but evidently you are too stupid to understand such a simple thing.

It's not my fault that you can't gasp the actual hints.

Assumed? what? do you mean another word here?

Netero hired Zeno only to separate the King, he didn't pay him to fight with him because of the high money fee he would pay, that was Netero's reason as stated by him, if I remember correctly. That's not specifically relevant to the bomb, since it could have been written as Netero being confident in winning by himself.

Relax guy. Don't blame you inability to express your thoughts clearly and your lack of deductive reasoning on me.


Not my fault if I'm not english.
And Netero never said that. Also, it wouldn't make any sense since he even thought Neferpitou was stronger than him. That, plus all the other hints made it clear that something like that was going to happen.

If anyone lacks deductive reasoning, it is you.

KitsuneKomugi said:
ValeBreck said:

It's really impossible to discuss with you, you are such an annoying being
Why the hell do you think Netero assumed Zeno ONLY to separate the king from the royal guards? If Netero didn't already plan to explode, he would have assumed him to fight with the King too, but evidently you are too stupid to understand such a simple thing.


I think it's just best to ignore people like him as there's no point in trying to reason with a fool, it's pointless and is a waste of time. Just ignore him and let him whine in peace, from the reactions I've seen everyone loved this episode, who cares if he one person didn't like it, don't let him ruin your enjoyment

I always try to make people understand, but yeah, I should probably leave him be, since he's just here to provoke people and I can barely sustain a normal conversation in english.
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Ichinoez said:


Call it an aspull or whatever you want but the way Togashi sets up his ideas for an arc is different from others. He plans the start and ending of the arc first and asks himself questions like "How can I resolve the arc/ fights in a way that hasn't been done before"
He attempts to create an unique ending or resolution that few or none has done before and the middle part of the arc is what he has to come up with as he goes.

Sure Togashi puts and setup different ideas and what not, but that is not inherently a good thing or a guarantee for quality. Perfect example imo is the Chimera ant arc, where the different aspects were handled poorly. I'm not sure I would call a suicidal bomb ''original'' or ''never done before''. Don't get me wrong I think Togashi is one of the best mangaka out there in terms of imaginary, execution, ideas and writing, and HxH is my second favorite battle anime of all time but

Togashi dropped the ball on this arc. This is no where close to Yorknew's quality imo, with the inconsistencies, the asspulls and possible deus ex machina, the focus on trivial characters, the pesudo psychological parts, the handling of Gon's character, the ending, the narration, the pacing and the length. To each his own.
Apr 22, 2014 1:33 PM

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Anyone calling it an asspull! What would u prefer this or someone like Gon beating Meruem? C'mon people, this is the best ending for Meruem possible...
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Apr 22, 2014 1:35 PM

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The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers.

Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko.
Apr 22, 2014 1:38 PM

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Aichiro said:
The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers.

Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko.

He can. The King is the absolute strongest being ever created in the Hunter x Hunter universe. No human being, Top Hunter or not, is on par with him. He could kill Hisoka and The Phantom Troupe in the blink of an eye.

Now, nuclear bombs are another different topic...
Andan210Apr 22, 2014 1:41 PM
The only True Ending is the Harem Ending.
Apr 22, 2014 1:38 PM

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Wow just wow...
Apr 22, 2014 1:41 PM

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That was epic.
Apr 22, 2014 1:41 PM

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Barion-Zara said:
Anyone calling it an asspull! What would u prefer this or someone like Gon beating Meruem? C'mon people,

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No. But a better conclusion would be nice. Also that kinda spoils future events.
Apr 22, 2014 1:41 PM

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Best episode of the series. PERIOD!!!!11
Apr 22, 2014 1:42 PM
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What more needs to be said, really? Epic and perfect. You can't get any better than that.
Apr 22, 2014 1:43 PM

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I think it's the first time a major character died and I absolutely have nothing to say and not feeling sad or whatsoever (well, I got spoiled that Netero will die, but not how). Netero was so determined and a strong character, he himself was accepting his fate.

Now, it has 9 episodes left supposedly, I wonder how the story will continue!
Apr 22, 2014 1:43 PM

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tsudecimo said:
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Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened.

What is the true meaning behind that asspull?

Coming from the guy who has Naruto as his avatar and gave Naruto Shippuden a 10. If this episode was an asspull, I wonder what the hell the Naruto manga is at this moment?
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Apr 22, 2014 1:43 PM

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well fuck, that episode left me speechless. simply amazing
Apr 22, 2014 1:44 PM

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that was amazing easily in my top 5 hxh episodes. the animation, direction, and character designs were beautiful throughout there literally wasn't a single frame that was lacking in quality. even though i had already read this in the manga it gave me the same feeling (if not more intense) as when i first read these chapters...i really don't see how anyone could give this anything less than a 5/5
Apr 22, 2014 1:44 PM

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Meruem: The Chimera Ants have a King.
Netero: We have a Rose.

Splendid! Ha!Ha!
Apr 22, 2014 1:44 PM

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Uber_Dewber said:
I'm fucking clapping right now. THAT.. that, was one of the best Hunter x Hunter episodes ever made. That is all I can say right now. Amazing.

Scratch that, this was one of the best episodes in ANY ANIME ever made, no doubt about that.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:45 PM

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@Tsudecimo

Now we have pseudo-psychological in the vocabulary too.... Well, no need to answer.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:45 PM

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Ichinoez said:
A_Fat_Man said:
I've been waiting to see this part animated for so long and it was amazing. Some of the stuff coming up could have been handled better but the CA arc is one of my favorite story arcs.


Not sure what you think could've been handled better, I was surprised how well they handled the gore of the episode when you compare it to the Killua vs Jones scene


I was talking about stuff that happens later on in this arc.
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kontrared said:
tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened.

What is the true meaning behind that asspull?

Coming from the guy who has Naruto as his avatar and gave Naruto Shippuden a 10. If this episode was an asspull, I wonder what the hell the Naruto manga is at this moment?

I wouldn't know since I'm not a manga reader, I follow the anime. The bomb was the asspull, not the entire episode.

Is that a nipple..


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@Tsudecimo

Now we have pseudo-psychological in the vocabulary too.... Well, no need to answer.

I don't know what you mean by this but okay. I don't believe I asked for an answer from you.
Apr 22, 2014 1:47 PM

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Masterful episode and the manga's coming back in June.. today couldn't be a better day.
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@Tsud

Well aren't you a witty one..... I am checkmated....
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Apr 22, 2014 1:50 PM

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kontrared said:
Uber_Dewber said:
I'm fucking clapping right now. THAT.. that, was one of the best Hunter x Hunter episodes ever made. That is all I can say right now. Amazing.

Scratch that, this was one of the best episodes in ANY ANIME ever made, no doubt about that.
Well said.
Apr 22, 2014 1:52 PM

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Jesus christ >.< What an utterly amazing episode o.o Great animation, great soundtrack, great, no, awesome fight! Will surely not forget this episode >.< Very sad by what happened but was kind of expecting it (I don't read the manga, don't know how I resist the urge xD) but it shocked me alot nontheless. It's so rare in animes to see the vilain win, specially against one of the most powerful chars in the anime. Just awesome. Oh! Netero's face near the end o.o holy shit it scared the crap out of me! And dat bomb o.o beautiful, a fitting ending.
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People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing.

Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:54 PM

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No it was foreshadowed.
Apr 22, 2014 1:55 PM

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Andan210 said:
Aichiro said:
The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers.

Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko.

He can. The King is the absolute strongest being ever created in the Hunter x Hunter universe. No human being, Top Hunter or not, is on par with him. He could kill Hisoka and The Phantom Troupe in the blink of an eye.

Now, nuclear bombs are another different topic...

Meruem is a god, humans can't defeat him. But since humans are evil, they will eventually find a dirty way to do it. Like Netero did. Netero challanged Meruem to a fair fight, yet he used a bomb to kill him, a bomb which has the form of a rose. However there still was a good side in Netero, since he admitted defeat by telling the king his name, inside himself he admitted the superiority of chimera ants, and this is exactly why humans have to get rid of them.
Apr 22, 2014 1:56 PM

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GuusWayne said:
People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing.

Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation.

Fixed.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:58 PM

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GuusWayne said:
People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing.

Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation.
Everything from the fight to the animation was perfect this episode. Also, I thought the ending was satisfying. Not going down without making an impact.
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Andan210 said:
GuusWayne said:
People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing.

Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation.

Fixed.
I'm refering to the King, he's also a character if you didn't know. I don't care as much about Netero, he was already defeated.
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Apr 22, 2014 1:59 PM

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ValeBreck said:
Andan210 said:
Aichiro said:
The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers.

Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko.

He can. The King is the absolute strongest being ever created in the Hunter x Hunter universe. No human being, Top Hunter or not, is on par with him. He could kill Hisoka and The Phantom Troupe in the blink of an eye.

Now, nuclear bombs are another different topic...

Meruem is a god, humans can't defeat him. But since humans are evil, they will eventually find a dirty way to do it. Like Netero did. Netero challanged Meruem to a fair fight, yet he used a bomb to kill him, a bomb which has the form of a rose. However there still was a good side in Netero, since he admitted defeat by telling the king his name, inside himself he admitted the superiority of chimera ants, and this is exactly why humans have to get rid of them.

Pretty much this. Not even the strongest humans in the world hold a candle to Meruem, that's why they needed their superior war machines in order to defeat him.
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Apr 22, 2014 2:00 PM

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GuusWayne said:
Andan210 said:
GuusWayne said:
People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing.

Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation.

Fixed.
I'm refering to the King, he's also a character if you didn't know. I don't care as much about Netero, he was already defeated.

Oh, i was sure you were talking about Netero. My bad, sorry.
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tsudecimo said:
kontrared said:
tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened.

What is the true meaning behind that asspull?

Coming from the guy who has Naruto as his avatar and gave Naruto Shippuden a 10. If this episode was an asspull, I wonder what the hell the Naruto manga is at this moment?

I wouldn't know since I'm not a manga reader, I follow the anime. The bomb was the asspull, not the entire episode.
Honestly if you'd see what was happening in the manga right now you'd take back your words and even lower Naruto's rating, it's that much of an asspull, it seems like Kishimoto doesn't even give a fuck anymore and just wants to end it. But whatever, not gonna discuss this too much. cba.
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That. Was. Amazing! I did not expect the bomb lol, I thought the final attack would finish both of them. :')

Btw, that was not a nuke. A nuke is not low budget, has a bigger explosion and has resulting fallout that would probs kill Gon and Killua and the rest. idk why a bomb as small to fit in his chest would kill the King tho, maybe they manufactured some kind of HxH nen bomb?
Apr 22, 2014 2:06 PM

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Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far.
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Dat Netero smile :D

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The leg thing was fucking creepy as fuck man

Good fight though
Apr 22, 2014 2:09 PM

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I can't even say how much I loved this episode so I make it quick.

It was the best thing ever. Well done Madhouse, I guess you placed all on the HxH horse.

And @ naruto guy, it's kinda funny to talk about asspulls in HxH coming from someone who likes Naruto Shippuded, master of all asspulls.
Not that it would make any argument you have less true, but it just seems ironic, because apparently asspulls shouldn't bother you.
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tsudecimo said:
TonyTonyStark said:
tsudecimo said:
ValeBreck said:

Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened.

What is the true meaning behind that asspull?


It shows that the show is realistic enough to acknowledge the inferiority of a certain side, that they don't use asspulls like power surges or sayian modes to wriggle out of it, but by using things alternative to Nen, which already exist in the world.

But it's an asspull. Doesn't make much of a difference if it's a power surge or something that exists in this world, it only adds to one theme.

Don't worry the power surge kind of asspull is near.


How is it an asspull when it is shown as the opposite of an asspull?

Was it out of nowhere? Foreshadowed multiple times
Explanation, simple enough and doesn't need much
What did it demonstrate? The inability of Netero to kill Meruem. An asspull would be, for example, Naruto using Kyuubi to demonstrate his rage and will and love for friends.
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GuusWayne said:
Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far.


Except the part where 5 million people would die.
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GuusWayne said:
Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far.



Thanks for killing everyone in the castle with your plan.
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GuusWayne said:
Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far.


What about the people there??? And what about Netero's selfishness wanting to fight?
Creative or not the bomb was a realistic way to do it and that's why liked it (speaking for myself though), and no it wasn't an asspull... well opinions...... Showtime....
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perfect episode, it is the best
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TonyTonyStark said:


How is it an asspull when it is shown as the opposite of an asspull?

Was it out of nowhere? Foreshadowed multiple times
Explanation, simple enough and doesn't need much
What did it demonstrate? The inability of Netero to kill Meruem. An asspull would be, for example, Naruto using Kyuubi to demonstrate his rage and will and love for friends.


I don't like Naruto, but the Kyubi has more foreshadowing than this Bomb.
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