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Apr 11, 2014 12:12 AM
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Opening song is really good!
Unique animation style. Not bad at all.

Ouch! That gotta hurt.. Nagate is off to a bad start.

He finally gets vouched by Kobayashi. Seems like they know Nagate is pretty good. :)

'Type 17' mecha Tsugumori is taken away for a short mission and Nagate is in it's operation.
That Kunato guy will die out of jealousy. XD

Mecha designs and motions were animated nicely!

First 'Gauna' is a tentacle type.. Yamano is down.
Now, it's up to our good hero; Negate!

Ending song was epic! The OSTs were pretty decent as well.

Apr 11, 2014 12:14 AM
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A bit jumpy animation but interesting settings and concepts.

Not a first time third gender is mentioned in SF literature (see Octavia Butler). Nice that they used a notion that is not well explored in anime SF.
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Apr 11, 2014 12:19 AM
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That was pretty awesome. That third gender must make for some interesting sexy time.
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The framerate for the CGI really didn't help the viewing experiences and was actually quite distracting a lot of the time.

The story and concept are interesting though.
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Apr 11, 2014 12:28 AM

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Good episode. But is it just me or a lot of these characters look alike?
Apr 11, 2014 12:30 AM

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The CG is excellent, this anime is going to be one heck of a ride.
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Quite impressed so far. The setting is incredibly fascinating and is enhanced by lush visuals and well-used CGI especially for the action scenes and mechanical animation. Even the characters almost look natural in their movements which is definitely an improvement to the usual CGI offerings we get in anime.
Apr 11, 2014 12:32 AM

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Nice episode and nice OP. The art style is somehow unique but I find the animation great because of maybe, a 3d style? (In mah eyes)
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shanimebib said:
Probably the best first episode of all the anime I am following this season. How strange is that I wasn't at all interested in either Haikyuu!! or Sidonia no Kishi yet after watching the first episodes, both turned out to be standout shows of the season.

Since the Japanese title can be abbreviated to SnK, here are some slight similarities with certain other anime that happened to have won a number of awards last year:

1) Monsters re-appearing/attacking after a hundred year hiatus
2) Only a certain way to kill the monsters
3) Monsters disintegrate after being killed
4) Special weapons are developed for meeting that purpose alone
5) Best OP of the season

Anyways, I already got used to the character design. I think the environment helped, and since the anime seems promising I decided not to let the animation style bother me. :)


The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.
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mayukachan said:
Wow the MAL rating is at a 7.00 but why are most of the comments in this thread so positive? Beats me.



I'm guessing people are completely dismissing it just because it is CG. This is way better than No Game No Life. lol

Apr 11, 2014 12:46 AM

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Don't know but my first impression on this show was actually pretty good. The animation style is beautiful.
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Zeally said:
mayukachan said:

I'm guessing people are completely dismissing it just because it is CG. This is way better than No Game No Life. lol

almost every anime this season is better than no game no life
no loli, no little shitty sister,no hype, but only a good show
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GenuineAnime said:
Good episode. But is it just me or a lot of these characters look alike?

I haven't read the manga but it seems cloning and human engineering is the norm. At least that was my conclusion from the characters appearances, mention of a 3rd gender, and if I understood it correctly their bodies can use photosynthesis.
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Wow the MAL rating is at a 7.00 but why are most of the comments in this thread so positive? Beats me.

Anyway, great first episode. I really like how it kept the mysterious and serious feel throughout, unlike the other sci-to/action shows this spring. The CG is kind of odd and will take time to get used to but otherwise, I'm loving the colours, scenery and Mecha designs.

Also, I like the dystopian feel. It's almost like Shinsekai yori especially with the hint of bisexuality with the main characters.


i usually vote when an anime is finished ..unless it has a huge amount of episodes.

i really loved the way it looks. there is a massive amount of cgi but it all fits together and look damn good. this firsz episode was awesome. i want more. sountrack is great too.

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agree. dropped that trash instantly.
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Good stuff, glad I got used to watching CG from Ars Nova so this is no problem :D

Plot is ur usual vs aliens but I'm liking it.

Nagate should be a good character. All dat suffering had me lol and cringe XD
Falling from that height, breaking two fingers, hitting his head to the wall while on a mobile vehicle, getting falcon punched and the end when he got sent flying and seems like he got pretty dislocated O_o...dat gotta hurt.

The third gender had me O_O XD but I'm gonna treat here a girl for now.

We'll next episode should be good. The PC looked nice.

I'm wondering about the woman who seems to be in the lead? I think she'll turn out to be immortal indeed.
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No Game No Life is my favorite anime this season thus far. It's just so "lively" (oh the irony). This is quite good too. The CG animation quite fits the futuristic mecha theme.

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Wow, to me that felt like a 5 minute episode, it really sucked me in. The CG looked a bit unusual at first, but I quickly got used to it and I feel it really fits this show.

The OP is brilliant, love the song and the visuals, and the OST itself is marvellously different to other shows. Not got much of an opinion on the ED though.

I also like the aliens, they seem quite...monstrous :P. And that talking bear woman gave me a bit of a shock! I wasn't expecting that at all...

Really looking forward to the next episode! I thought this show would be one of the ones I least enjoyed out of my pick for this season, but it seems like it could be my favourite!
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That ad break title card shows what could have been if they went with traditional 2-d and what could have been could have been awesome. Still I got used to the CG since seeing the trailers and it fits better with small eyed characters than the googley-eyed characters of "Arpeggio of Blue Steel".

Atmospheric as fuck, with a story that seems to be going places. Will probably do what Shingeki no Kyojin couldn't i.e. give us a humanity survival story with actual humans being humans in it (I see two characters already who will struggle with inner demons, white haired dude and stuck up girl who didn't want to go to the hospital to see the "Mole Man").

Savior of this season thus declareth Ollythirteen who is NOT a fan of mecha anime (and who is hotly anticipating another mecha anime, M3).

PS:

Triplets (well, clones since there were so many of them) were hot.

Main heroine is hot.

Third Gender girl is hot.

Huggy fox-mask-wearing captain is hot.

CGI boobie jiggle attempt is hot.

Hot hot hot hot hot...




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ChoiDalDal said:
Zeally said:
mayukachan said:

I'm guessing people are completely dismissing it just because it is CG. This is way better than No Game No Life. lol

almost every anime this season is better than no game no life
no loli, no little shitty sister,no hype, but only a good show


yea i have no idea how the show is rated 8.35 already >_>.......

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Well, I'll give it this, it looks waaaay better than that horrifying Ars Nova anime, but unfortunately I just can't get used to CG and it just feels too out of place for my taste.

I can see why people don't mind the CG in this too much, but personally, I'll pass.
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Haven't seen a main character get so brutalized in the opening minutes for a long time. He got utterly smacked!
CGI is jarring as hell but still watchable and the mechs are neat.
OP & ED are amazing.
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Zeally said:
ChoiDalDal said:
Zeally said:
mayukachan said:

I'm guessing people are completely dismissing it just because it is CG. This is way better than No Game No Life. lol

almost every anime this season is better than no game no life
no loli, no little shitty sister,no hype, but only a good show


yea i have no idea how the show is rated 8.35 already >_>.......


Was a good first ep, though a lot of complaints about the colour palette and art style too.

I guess the mystery of the score would be down to hype since it has a source material a lot of people have read (LN)

I'm sure pretty much majority of that score comes from people who feel the source material was adapted nicely.




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stealthdasher said:
shanimebib said:
Probably the best first episode of all the anime I am following this season. How strange is that I wasn't at all interested in either Haikyuu!! or Sidonia no Kishi yet after watching the first episodes, both turned out to be standout shows of the season.

Since the Japanese title can be abbreviated to SnK, here are some slight similarities with certain other anime that happened to have won a number of awards last year:

1) Monsters re-appearing/attacking after a hundred year hiatus
2) Only a certain way to kill the monsters
3) Monsters disintegrate after being killed
4) Special weapons are developed for meeting that purpose alone
5) Best OP of the season

Anyways, I already got used to the character design. I think the environment helped, and since the anime seems promising I decided not to let the animation style bother me. :)


The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...




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This will probably end up being the largely under appreciated great show of the season for me.


I am actually naively hoping for this to blow up in popularity for no reason like Attack On Titan did. Except that Sidonia actually deserves it.

GenuineAnime said:
Good episode. But is it just me or a lot of these characters look alike?


Considering we have a full set of identical looking characters, nope. Its a plot point.

mayukachan said:
Wow the MAL rating is at a 7.00 but why are most of the comments in this thread so positive? Beats me.


2d purists hating on CGI and voting it 1/10

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knights of sidonia
KNIGHTS OF CYDONIA?


Cydonia is actually a secondary name for Greek Goddess Athena, which in greek mythology is depicted with a mask.

Also its the region on Mars with the famous "moon face" in it.
Apr 11, 2014 2:24 AM
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this is gonna be one of the better ones this season, seems very interesting
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this

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Since I adapt really fast the CG doesn't bother and the story seems rather interesting and I'm looking forward to watching the next episode.
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I already guessed that the similar looking characters were more then likely clones.
I'm fine with cgi but I'd think it would cost a pretty penny to do a whole anime series over an ova or movie this way.

I usually don't go for mechas but this is pretty nice.
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absolutly hate cg characters. a few scenes here and there ok but entire series ugh.. kinda fits the series though

love the opening and ending aswell as the ost throughtout the episode

overall kinda creepy feeling


def gonna continue watching it
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I would like it more if the animation (particularly on the characters) didn't look like it was set on a low frame rate. Some characters look too similar as well. Other then that I haven't got too many gripes yet, considering how I think CG anime will make easier for shows to break into the western mainstream in the future I'll be a bit generous at the start.
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Great first episode. Story, characters, setting, ,music. It has it all. The CG takes a bit of getting used to ( the faces more than anything) but this has to be the sleeper of the season. Of course a segment of the MAL crowd has already marked this down because it doesn't conform to the current anime orthodoxy, but I bet this show has a mainstream appeal that others lack.
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Apr 11, 2014 4:17 AM

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Wow that was fucking awesome. Everything, setting, music and atmosphere were just what I expected from the guy why did Blame!

This is definitely my favorite show from this season.

Animation was a bit clunky at times, but only with characters, and I got used to it very fast. Towards the end I didn't even notice it. The backgrounds themselves did not suffer at all from the CG, the opposite actually. They looked absolutely beautiful.

I liked everything about the design, it has that Blame! style. Tsutomu Nihei sure can design awesome dystopian Sci-Fi stuff.

And yes, the opening. Oh my god the opening.

9/10 overall for now, because this deserves a higher overall score. 5/5 for this episode. The most underrated show this season.

This episode reminded me, that I should finish Blame!... I'm only 20 chapters in to the story...
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ollythirteen said:
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The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...



Well said sir.

I couldn't agree more.

It saddens be that people are overlooking this beast of an anime due to the fact that the brilliant manga it's based off is not that popular and that they are not used to the style of animation.
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Wow that was amazing. The OP made me go O__O! It was like a combination of old school and modern sci-fi series opening. There were parts that reminded me of Yamato 2199's OP. The ED...ahh I love it :D

The story setting, the characters and the design were fantastic. It really gave off a dark, desperate and bleak atmosphere.

Third gender? Well that's convenient. Asari?

Can't wait for the next episode!
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Despite the CG I am really loving the visual direction, the atmosphere, the setting, that Sci-Fi feeling it all fits :D

So they are all clones? Kinky 3rd gender XD

Great OP/ED

Too bad most people are blindly hating and skipping on this just cos it's CGI..to me this is was a way better start than No Game No Life.
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stealthdasher said:
ollythirteen said:
stealthdasher said:
The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...



Well said sir.

I couldn't agree more.

It saddens be that people are overlooking this beast of an anime due to the fact that the brilliant manga it's based off is not that popular and that they are not used to the style of animation.


You know what's depressing? Incesty generic shounen/romance bullshit Mahouka having a higher rating than this.
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Fai said:
stealthdasher said:
ollythirteen said:
stealthdasher said:
The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...



Well said sir.

I couldn't agree more.

It saddens be that people are overlooking this beast of an anime due to the fact that the brilliant manga it's based off is not that popular and that they are not used to the style of animation.


You know what's depressing? Incesty generic shounen/romance bullshit Mahouka having a higher rating than this.


+1

Well you know, the hype train never ends to series based on bullshit...

This one is interesting and reminds the graphics/art of Einhänder
Apr 11, 2014 6:12 AM

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Wow, the CGI is WAY better than expected and I dig the opening song. Some slight changes here and there, but overall not a bad first impression. As a Nihei fan I am still disappointed by the CGI itself, though. Oh well, let's see how it develops.
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This was waaayyy better than I expected.
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I don't mind the CG in this, it's easier to get used than other series. The OST man, the OST!
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It's pretty awesome, and that's from the words of a usual mecha disliker.
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Fai said:
stealthdasher said:
ollythirteen said:
stealthdasher said:
The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...



Well said sir.

I couldn't agree more.

It saddens be that people are overlooking this beast of an anime due to the fact that the brilliant manga it's based off is not that popular and that they are not used to the style of animation.


You know what's depressing? Incesty generic shounen/romance bullshit Mahouka having a higher rating than this.


I dunno about you but I reckon Mahouka and Sidonia are two of the best anime of this season.

This show would be just as generic as Mahouka by your standards. Not the first time we've seen Mecha vs Aliens. That still doesn't stop Sidonia from being a great manga and anime does it?

I think this has a lower rating than Mahouka despite having the stronger first episode because people are just not use to the CGI and seem to be turned off by it.
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the setting, plot, art, sound and cinematography all really impressed me, like, blew my expectations out of the water, but man is the actual animation stupidly stiff. its incredibly distracting. i'm still pretty excited to continue watching the show, but that one point sorta drags the whole thing down a bit.

i don't understand why cg anime producers haven't figured out how to make 3d models move fluidly without looking like animatronic dummies yet. i mean jimmy neutron had a better sense of movement than the majority of cg anime and it came out almost 15 years ago.
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stealthdasher said:
Fai said:


You know what's depressing? Incesty generic shounen/romance bullshit Mahouka having a higher rating than this.


I dunno about you but I reckon Mahouka, Mushishi, Sidonia and are the best of this season. I think this has a lower score than Mahouka despite having the stronger first episode because people are just not use to CGI.


idk. i really don't think its a matter of people being "used to" CGI, so much as CGI just not being "there" yet. things look beautiful... until they move. when we get anime with well animated CGI i don't think many people will be bothered by it, but as it stands most of the animation its almost objectively bad. i don't know if its a budget thing, or if new technologies like mo-cap might eventually able to fix it but it's definitely not what it should/could be, which is sad because i'm someone whose legitimately excited for the day we get good CGI.
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idk. i really don't think its a matter of people being "used to" CGI, so much as CGI just not being "there" yet. things look beautiful... until they move. when we get anime with well animated CGI i don't think many people will be bothered by it, but as it stands most of the animation its almost objectively bad. i don't know if its a budget thing, or if new technologies like mo-cap might eventually able to fix it but it's definitely not what it should/could be, which is sad because i'm someone whose legitimately excited for the day we get good CGI.


I guess I was expecting a bit better animation considering the studio behind this show is the emmy and annie award winning Polygon Pictures. I'm guessing for Sidonia they had a smaller budget to work with compared to shows like Star Wars: The Clonewars, Tron Uprising and Transformers Prime. However I'm still enjoying the general aesthetic they went with and I think Sidonia has some of the best CG I've ever seen in anime.
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Not used to the animation, but it is good so far.
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idk. i really don't think its a matter of people being "used to" CGI, so much as CGI just not being "there" yet. things look beautiful... until they move. when we get anime with well animated CGI i don't think many people will be bothered by it, but as it stands most of the animation its almost objectively bad. i don't know if its a budget thing, or if new technologies like mo-cap might eventually able to fix it but it's definitely not what it should/could be, which is sad because i'm someone whose legitimately excited for the day we get good CGI.


I guess I was expecting a bit better animation considering the studio behind this show is the emmy and annie award winning Polygon Pictures. I'm guessing for Sidonia they had a smaller budget to work with compared to shows like Star Wars: The Clonewars, Tron Uprising and Transformers Prime. However I'm still enjoying the general aesthetic they went with and I think Sidonia has some of the best CG I've ever seen in anime.


I don't really have an issue with the mecha being CG (at this point all of them are) my issue is with the characters being CG.. it looks so weird and awkward and you can tell the framerate is shit. I eventually got used to it, but god damn, the scene with him falling into the rice processor didn't help their cause. I'm not sure if they were trying to use that to show how good the CG looked, but it had the opposite effect.
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stealthdasher said:
thedryness said:
idk. i really don't think its a matter of people being "used to" CGI, so much as CGI just not being "there" yet. things look beautiful... until they move. when we get anime with well animated CGI i don't think many people will be bothered by it, but as it stands most of the animation its almost objectively bad. i don't know if its a budget thing, or if new technologies like mo-cap might eventually able to fix it but it's definitely not what it should/could be, which is sad because i'm someone whose legitimately excited for the day we get good CGI.


I guess I was expecting a bit better animation considering the studio behind this show is the emmy and annie award winning Polygon Pictures. I'm guessing for Sidonia they had a smaller budget to work with compared to shows like Star Wars: The Clonewars, Tron Uprising and Transformers Prime. However I'm still enjoying the general aesthetic they went with and I think Sidonia has some of the best CG I've ever seen in anime.

oh yeah, i totally agree that the general aesthetic for this show is beautiful, like some of the best in recent memory. backgrounds are well designed and drawn. characters and objects are well modeled and rendered. even the the cinematography (framing/camera movements... etc.) is exceptionally good, but the way they way the characters move... not so much.
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I don't really have an issue with the mecha being CG (at this point all of them are) my issue is with the characters being CG.. it looks so weird and awkward and you can tell the framerate is shit. I eventually got used to it, but god damn, the scene with him falling into the rice processor didn't help their cause. I'm not sure if they were trying to use that to show how good the CG looked, but it had the opposite effect.


Yeah I understand what you mean regarding the characters. A while ago I watched a CG anime called Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio and the characters seemed to be a little stiff animation wise however after a few episodes I got used to it. So I guess I'm just used to it you know. I reckon Sidonia is animated a lot better than Arpeggio though but I think that in the end animating anime characters in CG is quite hard and also I doubt it's within the Studio's budget to use technology like Motion Capture.

Maybe if you stick Sidonia out for a few episodes you'll get used to the character animation.
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Horrible CG there. I wonder if I'll get past 3 episodes.
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Fai said:
stealthdasher said:
ollythirteen said:
stealthdasher said:
The Sidonia No Kishi manga was released before Shingeki No Kyojin though.


Hey, I'll take Spear Weilding Mecha over gas-powered skipping ropes and meat cleavers as weapons (and the stupid characters that weidl them) any day, but that's just me...



Well said sir.

I couldn't agree more.

It saddens be that people are overlooking this beast of an anime due to the fact that the brilliant manga it's based off is not that popular and that they are not used to the style of animation.


You know what's depressing? Incesty generic shounen/romance bullshit Mahouka having a higher rating than this.


I dunno about you but I reckon Mahouka and Sidonia are two of the best anime of this season.

This show would be just as generic as Mahouka by your standards. Not the first time we've seen Mecha vs Aliens. That still doesn't stop Sidonia from being a great manga and anime does it?

I think this has a lower rating than Mahouka despite having the stronger first episode because people are just not use to the CGI and seem to be turned off by it.


Sidonia has deep and breath-taking unique architecture, brilliant atmosphere, compelling storytelling, unique approach to characters, out of the line different type of approach towards animation and one of best OSTs in last few years.

Mahouka has....incesty harem highschool of magic with vomit-worthy character designs and even more run-of-the-mill "plot". Sorry, no. It is not winning any awards in terms of creativity or quality and its reminiscent of the WORST of WORST anime shows ever created in last decade( Witch Craft Works , Hagure Yuusha no Estetica, Aquarion Evol and Clannad)
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