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Aug 16, 2011 8:50 PM

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Been waiting for the moment Okarin realizes what undoing the first D-Mail would mean. Poor, poor guy. Mayuri. Kurisu. Oh man.

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Aug 16, 2011 9:08 PM

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Every time I think this show can't get better, it does. My Anime List, Y U NO let me rate it 11/10?
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RedMage23 said:
Every time I think this show can't get better, it does. My Anime Lise, Y U NO let me rate it 11/10?

^This.

Also, why must Steins;Gate air during september (aka, school) UGH AP classes and steins;gate do not match.
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Aug 16, 2011 9:25 PM

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does anyone here know what Kurisu meant to say with the "did you try to feel me up"?
'cause I don't get it xd
Aug 16, 2011 9:43 PM

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I think Mayushi is still hiding something and will end up being the sacrifice anyway. It will have something to do with her habit of reaching for the light (futuristic time travel?) and younger Okarin's decision to stop her from leaving. There are still dark plot twists buried in there.... maybe she'll go back to the future or something. *cue theme music*

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Aug 16, 2011 9:45 PM

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arrozykamehameha said:
does anyone here know what Kurisu meant to say with the "did you try to feel me up"?


She was just making a joke because she doesn't really understand/remember what exactly Okabe told her about the original world line. That's what I think.

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It will have something to do with her habit of reaching for the light


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Aug 16, 2011 9:49 PM

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even though this episode has some omitted scenes and some alternation, i could enjoy it. FB was not FaceBook. i've forgotten the details of events, but i can tell that okarin must have talked more with moeka in VN. to see omitted events and to enjoy detailed conversations is also the reason to play VN! i think.

episode 21 preview
アニメ「シュタインズ・ゲート」#21「因果律のメルト」予告 - YouTube
it seems kurisu realize that see will be dead in beta world line. it must be scared.

this is shocking scene from VN. if you want to play VN, do not open this spoiler.
Aug 16, 2011 9:56 PM
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When the ending song came up (which always somehow is perfectly transitioned), I had to restrain from smashing my face on my laptop as I thought about how many more days I have to wait...

What a cliffhanger..I wonder how this is all going to end! On another note, this episode was fantastic :D

Off to rewatch the first episode again then.... o-o
Aug 16, 2011 10:06 PM

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RedMage23 said:
arrozykamehameha said:
does anyone here know what Kurisu meant to say with the "did you try to feel me up"?


She was just making a joke because she doesn't really understand/remember what exactly Okabe told her about the original world line. That's what I think.


Yes. I know that she was just joking.
But because a matter of language, I don't understand what "feel me up" means.
I mean, in what sense was that? in the "annoy me" sense (if that exists xD) or the "touch me" one? xD


BTW I knew that Okabe was a "little slow" (to figure out things), but I wasn't expecting the same slowness from Kurisu xd
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STM said:
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It's obvious now. Everything will end the way it started!

;_;

No, that can't be! There has to be a world where both Kurisu and Mayushii survive, and where SERN doesn't create a dystopia. There has to. ;_;


ya the beta line he decided to return it to the alpha line but the beta is where he wants to go
Aug 16, 2011 10:10 PM

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Fuck NO. I was thinking a few episode back "If they are undoing everything, maybe they'll go back to ep1 where kurisu dies?.. Nah probably not"..

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FUCK NO.
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arrozykamehameha said:

Yes. I know that she was just joking.
But because a matter of language, I don't understand what "feel me up" means.
I mean, in what sense was that? in the "annoy me" sense (if that exist xD) or the "touch me" one? xD
BTW I knew that Okabe was a "little slow" (to figure out things), but I wasn't expecting the same slowness from Kurisu xd


"Feel me up" in my experience has always meant "touch my breasts".

Remember, Kurisu only knows what Okabe told her, and I'm pretty sure everything he told her is what we saw in Episode 2. Just something about her being stabbed and him touching her. It's understandable that it could've slipped her mind for the most part.

The preview makes the next episode look boring. I guess after a string of seven excellent episodes in a row, there has to be some sort of drop.

I really want to play the VN, but I can't until it is translated.
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RedMage23 said:


"Feel me up" in my experience has always meant "touch my breasts".

Remember, Kurisu only knows what Okabe told her, and I'm pretty sure everything he told her is what we saw in Episode 2. Just something about her being stabbed and him touching her. It's understandable that it could've slipped her mind for the most part.


Haha, ok. Thanks for the clarification.
Is just that it seemed a little weird to me that Kurisu said that with such a happy mood/humor/face/whatever (with the "shut up pervert!" thing of her xd)
Aug 16, 2011 10:28 PM

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arrozykamehameha said:

Haha, ok. Thanks for the clarification.
Is just that it seemed a little weird to me that Kurisu said that with such a happy mood/humor/face/whatever (with the "shut up pervert!" thing of her xd)


It was just a hypothetical that she suggested, I believe subtly referring to a belief that Okabe is pathetic. If Okabe himself had alluded to something like that, then it would've been a different story, methinks.
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imperlast said:
STM said:
bakuramariks said:
It's obvious now. Everything will end the way it started!

;_;

No, that can't be! There has to be a world where both Kurisu and Mayushii survive, and where SERN doesn't create a dystopia. There has to. ;_;


ya the beta line he decided to return it to the alpha line but the beta is where he wants to go


The potential worldline where both might live is omega. But there's no guarantee.
There's also no way to be sure that in beta SERN doesn't create a dystopia anyway.
Mayushi may survive there, but that's also still speculation until we see for sure.

Who's to say that she doesn't simply just die a week later in both omega and beta?
It's all speculation until the story fully plays out, and the future is always uncertain. ;)
Aug 16, 2011 10:56 PM

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Saw that final revelation coming. Didn't see FB though. I was too caught up with FB = Facebook to consider the matter seriously.

My analysis on the time travel and predictions. And by Analysis I mean wild and detailed conjecture and too much "reading into" that I spent way too much time typing out for a silly but excellent anime:



That took too much time and now i'm going to bed.
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Aug 16, 2011 11:15 PM

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Great prelude episode, wrapping everything up, now the beginning makes sense :)

Which girl is gonna die? I doubt its gonna be Mayushi is, maybe Kurisu? But I'm speculating its gonna be our protagonist...
Aug 16, 2011 11:19 PM

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RobUsaB said:

But it took way to long to type all that convoluted crap above so I'll watch it later and say this now: I think a Suzuha from the future comes to kill Kurisu and another Okabe from the future, but possibly not the same future, tries to save Kurisu. This would be why other people have reported hearing Okabe's voice yell before Okabe got there..


It wasn't convoluted crap at all until you got to this part. All of what you said was completely sound (although the beginning is actually pretty obvious), and is what I've been thinking also. Your terminology is a bit confusing, but I think you're on track. I too was of the opinion that the 2000 John Titor may not have been Suzuha.
Aug 16, 2011 11:29 PM

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I wonder what Okabe is going to do.
Aug 16, 2011 11:40 PM
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really looking forward to the ending, 4 episodes should be just enough to wrap it up, if paced correctly. If they pull it off, this anime should be used as an example for all other animes on how to correctly adapt from another medium and how to properly pace an anime.
Aug 17, 2011 12:04 AM

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Excellent episode.

Lol I re-watched the first episode and it just perfectly makes sense. Even the title of the first episode was a foreshadowing..."Prologue of the Beginning and the End".

Now, I'm just looking forward to how the ending plays out. The ending will say whether this anime is a 9/10 or 10/10 in my book.
Aug 17, 2011 12:07 AM

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I just re watched the 1st episode after watching the last one and after reading all this thread, and i even a little more confused.

As i see, the 1st episode it could be also the 23 or 22, still being in the Beta line of events, meaning that the death of Kurisu is needed to ironically stop her dead and her original death not being part of the Alpha time line.

But maybe im just to tired to think but right now that seems like a very possible way to Okarin actually saving both of his friend and stopping the dystopia to happend.

btw

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I think Mayushi is still hiding something and will end up being the sacrifice anyway. It will have something to do with her habit of reaching for the light (futuristic time travel?) and younger Okarin's decision to stop her from leaving. There are still dark plot twists buried in there.... maybe she'll go back to the future or something. *cue theme music*


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Aug 17, 2011 12:54 AM

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It's painful to come in here and not be able tell some people they are wrong XD

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Omitted stuff

wow they omitted that? that sucks, i hope they somehow fit it in the next episode


They won't, trying to forcefully insert that in the next chapter is just "pushing it".
and if you think bit, the "omitted scenes" doesn't really affect the main story at all. It just complicated things and just trivial knowledge since they never made any kind of closure with that "sub-plot" in the VN.

Basically it's a sub-plot, and the anime didn't need it. Another reason to play the VN


It kinda does, since it explains why Suzuha said Okarin was assassinated in 2035. They should have left that part of the conversation out if they weren't going to follow through with WHY he was assassinated in the future.

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Oh, my God...it seems that you have lost Okabe. Someone has to die. Well, four more episodes to go, I REALLY wonder what will happen. I would love a happy ending, but I'm not sure we can get one. Here's hoping for the best.

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I rewatechd first episode and got lots of questions, for instance:

1 - If John Titor time travelled to the year of 2010 (and only to that time) that we could even see the time machine landing on the rooftop, how everyone knew about him in the year of 2000?

Then I just started reading the novelty, and it makes sense now (there is an explanation). It seens that the anime forgot to explain this and other stuff. I recommend everyone to read it.
Aug 17, 2011 1:41 AM

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Well, I'm guessing there is no more "obstacles" now to shift from alpha to beta line.

The only problem now for Kyouma, is to choose between Kurisu or Mayuri.

Here are the interesting choices that Kyouma can make (theorized by a blogger in RC):

1. He restores things to the original timeline and Kurisu dies
2. He finds a way to create a “C” timeline where neither Kurisu or Mayushi dies
3. He finds a way, but only at the expense of sacrificing himself
4. Kurisu, understanding the situaion (perhaps despite Okarin trying to prevent her from doing so) forces the shift back to the original timeline, sacrificing herself for Maysuhi and Okarin’s sake

Well guys. what do you think?

Aug 17, 2011 1:58 AM

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I'm gonna post this as a question... Does anyone know if the reason why we can't see Kurisu's face on Episode 1, when she's lying dead, is due to censoring of the graphic violence or because we are not supposed to see who it is.

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Well, I'm guessing there is no more "obstacles" now to shift from alpha to beta line.

The only problem now for Kyouma, is to choose between Kurisu or Mayuri.

Here are the interesting choices that Kyouma can make (theorized by a blogger in RC):

1. He restores things to the original timeline and Kurisu dies
2. He finds a way to create a “C” timeline where neither Kurisu or Mayushi dies
3. He finds a way, but only at the expense of sacrificing himself
4. Kurisu, understanding the situaion (perhaps despite Okarin trying to prevent her from doing so) forces the shift back to the original timeline, sacrificing herself for Maysuhi and Okarin’s sake

Well guys. what do you think?

1. The most logical one. We will definitely return to ep1, where all begins.
2. There's already a Gamma Worldline for the drama CDs.
3. Okabe won't be able to observe the outcome if he's dead.
4. It's the same as option 1.

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I'm gonna post this as a question... Does anyone know if the reason why we can't see Kurisu's face on Episode 1, when she's lying dead, is due to censoring of the graphic violence or because we are not supposed to see who it is.

It's definitely Kurisu. But I understand what you observed. Food for thought.


I just hate Hanada Jukki. I was already pissed off by his poor execution of Mayuri's 1st death and Okabe's 1st timeleap. He tends to keep those unnecessary scenes and cuts those relevant ones. Yuugo was originally intended to


This is the most disappointed epidsode so far if you knew the original plot. I have a BAD feeling that Hanada will screw up the finale... =[
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Comparing versions of Moeka’s death as follows,

And the one from the VN in the spoiler
I would have to say the VN one looks better.

Makise blush!

That was cutest part in the episode and you can so see in the spoiler
Okabe+Dr. Pepper x Makise+Dr. Pepper = nice couple. Right?
Archie74 said:
I'm gonna post this as a question... Does anyone know if the reason why we can't see Kurisu's face on Episode 1, when she's lying dead, is due to censoring of the graphic violence or because we are not supposed to see who it is.

Well if it helps I got the BD version in the spoiler

and it show that Makise's face is more shadowed. It still does not matter because Okabe knows it's her. It's just a way of foreshadow and since my source is BD that's how it is. Therefore no censors.

You got to admit though it's so orgasmic to see that the BDs bring JUSTICE to this series. All is much more sharper and better.

A comparing of TV VS BD with TV being the first pic in the spoiler
What do you say to that!
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i have no words for this ...
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During the last episode, I felt a bit awkward when they didn't show the foreshadow of it
Anyway,I don't really care about the "omitted stuff", I think that part is a bit illogical(due to the high requirement of that timeleap machine) the moment when I play. It give me the " huh, wat? "feeling .Those who play the VN should know this better than me...

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Okabe+Dr. Pepper x Makise+Dr. Pepper = nice couple. Right?
I can't believe Makise has fallen into the hand of Dr.Pepper. lol

there are too much Okarin x Kurisi and too little Okarin x Mayushii .I somehow felt sorry for Mayushii T.T
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This is the most disappointed epidsode so far if you knew the original plot. I have a BAD feeling that Hanada will screw up the finale... =[
Cross your finger and hope they manage to get into the true end within 4 episode . =P
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MorningGlory said:
Kansokusha said:
This is the most disappointed epidsode so far if you knew the original plot. I have a BAD feeling that Hanada will screw up the finale... =[
Cross your finger and hope they manage to get into the true end within 4 episode . =P
Does that mean Mayushii and Makise alive?

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Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
Kansokusha said:
This is the most disappointed epidsode so far if you knew the original plot. I have a BAD feeling that Hanada will screw up the finale... =[
Cross your finger and hope they manage to get into the true end within 4 episode . =P
Does that mean Mayushii and Makise alive?
Aug 17, 2011 4:27 AM

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Must...resist urge to click spoiler tag!

Great series so far though, best of the season :D
Aug 17, 2011 4:36 AM

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This was interesting.I didn't expect that.
Only 4 eps left . Need more x_x
Aug 17, 2011 5:04 AM
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I just read the story from wikipedia... I don't think that all the things that happened on the game can be resumed in just 4 episodes. Urging to see next episode.
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Yumekichi11 said:
Comparing versions of Moeka’s death as follows,

And the one from the VN in the spoiler
I would have to say the VN one looks better.

It's not only visually better, it's way more emotional.

Moeka apologizes again and again and again in tears until she passes away, despite Okabe said he has already forgiven her. I bet Okabe cried too. ='(

MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
Kansokusha said:
This is the most disappointed epidsode so far if you knew the original plot. I have a BAD feeling that Hanada will screw up the finale... =[
Cross your finger and hope they manage to get into the true end within 4 episode . =P
Does that mean Mayushii and Makise alive?

Chiyomaru said

Seriously, I won't forgive Hanada if he continues to stain the original scripts of Hayashi-sensei. Don't you dare to make it into another Chaos;Head adaptation. >= [

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I just read the story from wikipedia... I don't think that all the things that happened on the game can be resumed in just 4 episodes. Urging to see next episode.

LOL you spoiled yourself?
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well, to me the only way possible to save Kurisu, might be Okarin to let her die and then go further into the past again and maybe try to save her... just like he has been doing with Mayuri.
or maybe, the scream we heard on episode one if it was really from Okarin, then there might be a chance that it was Okarin from the future?

i dunno why but im expecting a similar end to the movie "the butterfly effect" LOOOL.

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Never thought FB was so close to the crew. And another (not so shocking) plot twist emerged. I wonder how is Okabe going to solve this...
Aug 17, 2011 5:36 AM
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LOL you spoiled yourself?


Yeah, I am very curious that I can't handle myself... Also I've just read all mangas, and read the story of the game on wikipedia, and now I'm going to watch/play the visual novel...
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The Anime just trying to shrink the story to fit inside 24episode.Nae's scene is just part of the sub plot just like how they cut the scene of 4°C.

Having Moeka and Mr.brown die in front of Okabe is enough mental damage for Okabe already.
Its quite weird that why Okarin vomit when both die. I thought Okarin witness the death of Mayuri for more than 100times.He should have get used to the sight of death.

Well , I am surprise I saw many msg in forum, people(non- VN player) saying that they wanted to play the VN to find out what with "the missing Nae scene".
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i dunno why but im expecting a similar end to the movie "the butterfly effect" LOOOL.


I was thinking exactly the same thing xD
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And the twists keep coming...

He finally realizes Kurisu's death will have to be dealt with aswell...

After watching this episode, I'm doubting every character besides Mayuri, Rumiho & Ruka... Yes even Okabe - He's probably my favorite character for this entire year so far. But - I went back to re-watch the first episode to get any clues & during Kurisu getting stabbed scene, the yell is extremely similar to Okabe's voice...


Wait....You're right. Another very important piece of information is that she said he tried to tell her something 15 minutes ago and that he really looked worried. If he looked worried then he was aware Makise was about to die. !_! Could it be that Okarin finally managed to physically time travel? That would mean that the male scream was Future Okarin perhaps trying to save her?

Another important thing might be the disappearance of the Metal Oppa and his phone sihning brightly like when the phone microwave is on just before Mayuri finds him telling the Metal Oppa is missing.

If d-mail only changes the world line but doesn't allow you to go back and change things then that would mean he would have to either time leap (but that doesn't explains him not remembering trying to warn makise 15 minutes ago unless his reading steiner failed as Suzuha's memory failed when she time travelled).

The other option that I considered which makes sense with the male voice is that Okarin finally found a way to physically travel back in time but moves silently trying to not meet himself evading a paradox. He could warn Makise 15 minutes before that he needs to tell her something with his extremely worried face but then is forced to run away or hide. The past Okarin would have no recollection of this conversation. But does that mean that he also stole the Metal Oppa? How did he not get turned into jelly? Then he probably tries to save Makise and fails and when he hears his past self coming he quickly hides. That would explain the odd sounds past Okarin heard.
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Man, if I'm a girl, I'd fall for Okabe.
After finishing this series, I'd definitely try the VN.
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The Anime just trying to shrink the story to fit inside 24episode.Nae's scene is just part of the sub plot just like how they cut the scene of 4°C.

Having Moeka and Mr.brown die in front of Okabe is enough mental damage for Okabe already.
Its quite weird that why Okarin vomit when both die. I thought Okarin witness the death of Mayuri for more than 100times.He should have get used to the sight of death.

Well , I am surprise I saw many msg in forum, people(non- VN player) saying that they wanted to play the VN to find out what with "the missing Nae scene".

Hanada Jukki officially killed 4°C, Yuugo and Nae.

The whole shooting scene wasn't a mental blow. Okabe was merely shocked. And Yuugo shot Moeka like he's killing a cattle. Crap. It's nothing compared to the original plot. The reflection of Okabe's guilt. The tragic atmosphere. The burning hatred. Salvation. It was a mental blow to us VN reader, not Okabe. I still couldn't calm down from this mess. Screw you, Hanada Bastard Jukki. Play the VN before you write ur freaking scripts.
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how the heck did Kuriso know she was stabbed in the other timeline? it really surpised me when she mentioned that, i think she's plotting something.
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Or he probably explained it to her, which would be surprising since he would've realized that she dies in the beta worldline before.
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Kurisu only knows what Okabe told her, and when Okabe encountered Kurisu in the second episode, he mentioned her being stabbed.
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Once again Okabe shows his lack of thought. :(

Well I guess I can forgive him a little after seeing what happened to Mayuri.
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