Higurashi When They Cry: Abducted by Demons Arc
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| Maggots? Ewww. |
| Hahahaha, it's funny that going through all the comments everyone went mad about the bugs yet no one seemed to question the aliens part of it. Also, it's parasites, not bugs. |
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| Ow poor Rena scratched her wound XP that MUST have hurt!!! i mean cutting your wrist is one thing but then scratching it is another ew DX but anyway Mio did ALOT 2 write all that down... an it was nice of Rena to figure it all out for her!!! so there's a "Virus" in the swamp...???... that explains alot... and how they revived it on that night where ever1 dies from a gas leak in the swamp!!! it makes SO MUCH SEANCE!!! lol ... i cant believe Rena is getting chased by those ppl!!! i wonder what shes gonna do. . . probably kill them... idk haha but they would be kinda of annoying... always following you around going places you go... that must suck!!! |
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| lol at the maggot scene. It was so weird that it's mildly amusing :o whoa everything is starting to make sense. Go scientific theory! Though what does the killings before have anything to do with this? |
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| Wow, the story just reached a whole new level of complexity. That scrapbook explains everything, The story always resets because it never ends... |
| I'm a bit disappointed that it was nothing supernatural because I loved the feel of the first arc the most. Oh well, I guess it makes more sense this way. |
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| I watched it with a shitty resolution, so i couldn't read the scrapbook.. can anyone tell me what it said?? |
| well this put a spin on things |
DeathfireD said: I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it. Makes sense to me |
It's not breaking in if the door is unlocked. |
| Now this, THIS answers so many questions. Or at least I think it answered so many questions. If this entire Shrine God curse thing was a rare type of parasite which can only thrive in Hinamizawa, then wouldn't it be safe to assume that in the previous arc, Rika was only trying to help Shion by giving her that shot? (Vaccination?) We find out that this parasite makes people deranged and crazy, and Shion really didn't live in Hinamizawa before (even if she was born there, she was moved at birth from what I remember...), so the parasite must have gotten to her somehow. The anime kind of hid this possibility with the seemingly main reason behind why Shion killed so many people: Satoshi. But perhaps the parasite was a major factor.... but I still don't really understand how Mion and Rena ended up giving Keiichi a vaccination....I don't think he killed anyone or showed any real signs of threat other than self defence training from the others with Satoshi's bat...he killed one person in Satoko's arc. I'm surprised this became all scientific though, but I'm glad that the anime didn't just throw you any "it just happened....like magic OwO" nonsense. I'm glad it does seem to have logical reasoning around it. EDIT: I see that someone had the same train of thought here as I do...maybe for the first time in this entire series, I'm right? Next episode! |
| "I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it." Well,this sounds pretty good, but even still there are some immediate problems with the theory that I see., When mion and rena tried to give keichi the shot, they said "Now, Keichi it's time for your punishment game" and the day before they gave him food with needles in it, so it didn't seem like they were trying to help him. Also, look what happened to Rika after she got injected she went insane and killed herself (perhaps Keichi too). Now to help your theory out maybe the vaccine had some of the virus inside of it (this is how many vaccines work (ex the bird flu vaccine)) and Rika then got infected. Rena and Mion also mentioned that the coach was coming for Keichi so maybe they were trying to help him, but I just don't see that being the case I just don't think Rena is right here (or maybe I'm just hoping that). I think there is something more going on than just a parasite. |
EOTWSep 17, 2011 12:35 PM
| that scratching of the arm was pretty gross anyways nice detective work! |
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| I really enjoyed that twist, for I was worried that this series was going to end in a cheesy manner, explaining everything by using corny supernatural powers and what not. Having a virus the cause of everyone going berserk was a great addition. |
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| I'm glad we're getting to see more of Rena's character (: she's cool. Pretty interesting episode. |
kaoriie said: There were major cuts from the Novel here. The so called "parasite" doesn't just control people, it secretes something that destroys the mind;s proper perception of reality. When a person goes into stress the parasite kicks in and suddenly people start believing whatever goes into their heads as reality and eventually go violent. Keiichi began thinking Rena was a crazy psycopath that stalked him(she wasn't in Onikakushi and she only knew things about him because she always talked a lot with Keiichi's mother and she has a crush on him) so he began imagining scenes like Rena threatening him (notice how when Rena leaves after threatening him Keiichi looks at the clock and notes that barely any time passed even though the conversation seemed longer), or her wielding the hatchet against him (she never did). The anime doesn't make it clear but the novel does.Now this, THIS answers so many questions. Or at least I think it answered so many questions. If this entire Shrine God curse thing was a rare type of parasite which can only thrive in Hinamizawa, then wouldn't it be safe to assume that in the previous arc, Rika was only trying to help Shion by giving her that shot? (Vaccination?) We find out that this parasite makes people deranged and crazy, and Shion really didn't live in Hinamizawa before (even if she was born there, she was moved at birth from what I remember...), so the parasite must have gotten to her somehow. The anime kind of hid this possibility with the seemingly main reason behind why Shion killed so many people: Satoshi. But perhaps the parasite was a major factor.... but I still don't really understand how Mion and Rena ended up giving Keiichi a vaccination....I don't think he killed anyone or showed any real signs of threat other than self defence training from the others with Satoshi's bat...he killed one person in Satoko's arc. I'm surprised this became all scientific though, but I'm glad that the anime didn't just throw you any "it just happened....like magic OwO" nonsense. I'm glad it does seem to have logical reasoning around it. EDIT: I see that someone had the same train of thought here as I do...maybe for the first time in this entire series, I'm right? Next episode! |
Leon-GunJan 15, 2012 4:37 PM
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DeathfireD said: I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it. Wow this was a great ep. Man, i think you just nailed it. Cant wait to see what happens though |
| Wow, parasites? It's brilliant how that ties everything together. I don't understand everything yet though, some parts are still foggy as to where the parasites come in. Rena is awesome! And Takano-san for figuring that out<3 |
| Ok , the phone call between Rena and keiichi was really complicated . so it's because of the virus in the marsh people transform to devils but why Keiichi thought that Oyachiru sama is the doctor who come from a foreign country after hearing that ?!! basicly why he was thinking about the doctor ??... i didnt undestand this too : "The person carrying the virus dies with the virus if he attacked someone !! ? " |
| Ok .. i re watched the episode with eng sub . Parasites which came forth from Onigafuchi march make people go berserk ... but there's something strange; if infected in state of derengement had attacked normal people they would die along with parasites inside them ... only people who have been able to co-exist with parasites as one remain .... is that mean that people who have this ability didnt go berserk and they could controll themselves !!?? so now , Henamizawa people are composed both of normal people and devils . the question is : are parasites exist in Henamizawa at this time ? and if parasites didnt existe at this time why the tree great families are continuing to apply the law :" you must not leave the illage and .... " ??? |
| umm anyone notice how ooishi and rena talking in the car was the same as keiichi in episode 1? when he is called and taken to the car and the same diolougue happens...also rena is being pursued by the white van and in the 1st epi it was keiichi feeling he was followed....hmmmm |
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felo said: omg, this feels like resident evil. this changes everything from the past ep's LOL, I didn't even think of RE, but you're right! |
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_retro_reactive said: It's intentional. This is supposed to be the "Answer arc" to the first arc, but with Rena as the "crazy deranged person" rather than Keiichi. So the situations are similar at some points but with changes. The main point that has to be similar is that in both cases Keiichi or Rena believe there's a conspiracy by someone, and start coming up with more and more crazy ideas.umm anyone notice how ooishi and rena talking in the car was the same as keiichi in episode 1? when he is called and taken to the car and the same diolougue happens...also rena is being pursued by the white van and in the 1st epi it was keiichi feeling he was followed....hmmmm |
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| Hmm...things are starting to become more clear now. |
| I think Keiichi is the first arc is the one going mad with all his twisted visions. I think he was consumed by the parasites and became more and more paranoid. Mion and Rena was trying to help him with the vaccine but he killed them instead. |
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dvl_ said: I still think this arc is worse than the previous ones. It kinda goes off the track - first showing Rena's attitude to her father's actions, explaining her family background and suddenly we have a RIDICULOUS theory about parasites being the cause of the whole Hinamizawa craziness? Come on, this is stupid. I'm very disappointed, if this is the real explanation for what was going on in the village for such a long time. Have the creators run out of ideas perhaps? There's still two episodes left and I hope it will get better and they'll make up for this crappy arc, otherwise the score won't go past 8. There was nothing ridiculous about the parasites, it makes complete sense and matches the rest of the show if you ask me, completely logical. |
loub31 said: Ok , the phone call between Rena and keiichi was really complicated . so it's because of the virus in the marsh people transform to devils but why Keiichi thought that Oyachiru sama is the doctor who come from a foreign country after hearing that ?!! basicly why he was thinking about the doctor ??... i didnt undestand this too : "The person carrying the virus dies with the virus if he attacked someone !! ? " If they try to leave they die ThangLong said: I think Keiichi is the first arc is the one going mad with all his twisted visions. I think he was consumed by the parasites and became more and more paranoid. Mion and Rena was trying to help him with the vaccine but he killed them instead. Still doesen't explain the needle in the food though, and i highly doubt they knew about the parasites otherwise they would have said something sooner. |
| Those van people. Eh I'm too tired to even think of what I'm typing in her. Good episode though. |
| Higurashi turns into Resident Evil. |
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| Parasites. This changes everything. This episode answered a few of my questions, but there are still some things that are unclear. Hopefully, the next episode explains them. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
DeathfireD said: I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it. This actually made sense. Bugs... I'm a bit dissapointed that it came down to that.. Thought it was gonna be something much more complex. But wait.. How does this explain Rika-chans ability to see into the future? Also, why did Mion and Rena try to kill Kei BEFORE trying to give hiim an injection? I'm talking about the time when Kei found a needle in his food that Mion and Rena had made for him when he was "sick". Are they perhaps gonna make it look like Kei had a hallucination or something so asspulling like that? |
| Parasites eh? Well that may be true, but it's only a part of it. Something supernatural is definitely at work here too with the time loops and Rika's clairvoyance mode. |
| Well that was a big turn compared to where we started, now we kinda have a physical form of the 'god" this time, why Shion was sent away early in her life, and it might explain why everyone went a bit psychotic...however what doesn't make sense would be multiple arcs with separate stories. I mean the stuff in each arc makes sense and we learn more in each one, BUT having new arcs that essentially hit the reset button each time doesn't make any sense. I mean every story has a beginning middle and end, they don't hit the reboot button multiple times through the same story to tell alternate versions...unless it's something like Groundhog Day were you live the same day over and over. So what I'm saying us that unless there is really is some sort of magic/mystical element here that's been hinted at in every arc, the multiple arcs do not make sense. |
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| Mmm, so that would explain all the psycho behavior and all the weird thing like the when Rika was found ripped appart and naked... There is still some thing that don't seem right, in the episode 8, why did Oishi said that Takano was already dead when they met her and how did Shion came back from the death? |
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DeathfireD said: I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it. Wow this was a great ep. I agree with some of your points , but then again , when Shion turned the syringe on to Rika she then killed herself , why would she do that if it were a vaccination shot (then again Rika did make the point of not wanting to be killed by Shion's hand or as you said which in that case she didn't want to be killed by something controlling her friend) This was a great episode, upsetting to see Rena go through those things especially with the maggots ;_; poor girl, it cleared a few things , I remember Keiichi throwing away Satoshi's bat in to the swamp which probably was the cause of him going insane by being exposed |
Adramelech said: Go to the police, damn it! One thing about this series is that, no one trusts the police. |
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| Man I wish I could erase me mind and re-watch higurashi xD |
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| Getting answers and getting confused at the same time. Somehow it is a Revelation, that this drug is actually a parasite, but on the opposite it's not something entirely new in the way, that we already knew that something was going on with those syringes everywhere, we just thought it was a drug. But I like that theory, that the others always wanted to help and give him the vaccine, it would be a nice twist! xD |
| Rena's nice detective work xD |
| This is just stupid, parasites my ass, the demon and god angle is far more interesting. LAMEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! |
| "Nothing is sweeter than your smile" |
chillock said: This is just stupid, parasites my ass, the demon and god angle is far more interesting. LAMEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! You are lame. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Parasites? Lame. I really hope that isn't the answer. Instead of something supernatural and mysterious they go with a scientific and logical answer. I hope it's just a smokescreen. |
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| Oooh parasites... The plot points continue to slowly fall into place... Takano is still as sexy as ever! ♥ Fascinating episode! Only two more episodes before I'm done with this season and it will finally get less mindfucky! |
DeathfireD said: I'm thinking the stuff they said about volcanic gas also plays a role in how the bugs started the infection and stay alive. As Rina mentioned, the bugs can only survive in there village. So I'm guessing the gas might be the cause of that. Also I think the people "going crazy" may not necessarily be the ones going crazy. For example the first ark in the beginning of the series; Rina and Mion attack Keiichi and try and stab him with a needle while the doctor and that white van are outside the house. What if he was the one going really going crazy and they where only trying to give him a shot to kill the bugs or at least subside the crazy thoughts? This would also explain why Rika tried to stab Shion with a needle as well. Rika must have been aware that Shion was being overwhelmed by the bugs and wanted to help her. This also explains why the doctor wanted to give Keiichi a shot in his ark. I'm only guessing but the people that kill are probably taken in to the hospital and then give a shot and forced to leave the village or are locked up somewhere in the hospital for tests on how to completely cure it. Wow this was a great ep. This is a pretty good theory, but is this really the same arc as before? I had to check to make sure I was watching the right episode O.o |
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| It's call finally starting to make some damn sense. |
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