Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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Jun 27, 2015 1:49 PM
#251
MDLuffy10 said: Where did you guys watched the ep? AnimeShow.tv ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought this anime was great. My favorite genres and themes were used; The little guy becoming famous and strong, magic, a lot of action, and best of all: an RPG. Not only was it an RPG, but it's set apart from series like SAO or Log Horizon in that it wasn't virtual. I also thought the plot line was very clever and had a great ending. My only concern is that I thought the season should have been longer (24 episodes) instead of 13. But besides that, I loved it! 8/10 |
Jun 27, 2015 2:54 PM
#252
I'm starting to become kinda sick of OPness and protagonists overcoming things by almost only sheer willpower. |
Jun 27, 2015 3:08 PM
#253
You know when Mikoto said Futsunomitama her voice really did something for me, well i loved her voice in that whole scene but there was something nice about the way she said Futsunomitama. Also judging from the spoiler I saw about her I look forward to seeing more of her in later novels or the possible next season of anime whichever comes first because English translation has a ways to go yet. I enjoyed this anime even if they did rush through the material at stages and cut out many world building and explanation parts and other scenes that developed the characters more or fleshed them out more. I still enjoyed watching it all the way through so still a good anime in my book. The biggest crime the anime made was not animating Lili's fox girl form she is meant to have after her introduction arc. Its what she looks like in the manga i don't know about the novel (since novel 3 is not out to buy yet in english yet) but this is what she looked like in the manga http://bato.to/read/_/320485/dungeon-ni-deai-wo-motomeru-no-wa-machigatteiru-darou-ka_ch34_by_one-time-scans/5 It always bugged me that in the anime they just made the monsters bodies dissolve after being killed. One of the supporters most important jobs is moving monster corpses out the way while the adventurers fight they are also meant to cut the crystals out of the monster corpses. I get the general idea of limit off but I would liked a quick explanation of how it worked and what the requirements of activation are for it since it seems it is something adventurers can do. Anyway I enjoyed this season and would welcome another season of it happily. |
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Jun 27, 2015 3:11 PM
#254
Rushed much? WTF ending? This episode was just super horrible on so many levels! Is he basically Hercules or something? This series was clearly projected like two-cour and this really felt like hasty nonsensical end they made in hurry. It's a shame. So many things were left unresolved. I guess sales weren't good enough? No season 2 then... This anime was just fine (no, even great!) till this episode and the end pretty much ruined it. I still don't know what to think of it and how could this shit got aired. 6/10 (thanks to first twelve episodes, it would be 2/10 just for the last one) |
Jun 27, 2015 3:58 PM
#255
Sokah said: Zefyris said: Your "high level mages" were level 2, just like bell. Then they shouldn't have been able to make it to level 18 because AS WE WERE TOLD it's too dangerous that low for such low level characters. So no, they WERE NOT level 2 in the anime. We're not talking about the LN here. /facepalm. 18 and below are still floor with level 2 monsters. Simply, it's not made for a ridiculously small party composed of one level 2 that just passed his level and 1 level 1 + supporter. I don't know where exactly start the level 3 monster, but most probably below floor 25, to the very least. Regardless, even IF they were level 2, several of them combined were MUCH WEAKER THAN BELL. Figure it out already guy. We get it, you're a total fanboy, but you can't argue Bell was just stupidly overpowered. His level means nothing, he's WAY more powerful than many other people combined, the entire show meant nothing, it was just random crap thrown at the screen and the only people that like it are people that can't pay enough attention to see the story is a total mess. Fanboy? I rated 6/10 the LN and 5/10 the anime. I'm simply kindly taking the time to correct your repeated nonsenses. They can cast several spell when he charges one time and can cast several spells without falling into mind down. Each spell has its own advantages. Bell's spell is extremely hard to find a single use to it at full power. Its drawback are extremely huge, and the firepower is huge too. In danmachi, it's nothing surprising. The firepower between skills varies a lot and the firepower/effect varies a lot as well. Again, Bell's spell is very limited in its use. Most of the time he has to give up on using it. Again, this time, he had to have several hundred of adventurer stopping the enemy from killing him. Do you think that's going to happen twice? They were both about 2 minutes. But you know one was done by 5 people, right, and it did far less damage than the one done by Bell. Yeah, you know it, but keep arguing this somehow makes sense and isn't ridiculously bad writing. It's 3 minutes full charge without limit off. Longer with limit off. For the mages, it's just a chant, which is shorter. And the mages can repeat it again and again. The mages have a far wider area of effect too, far more useful on hordes of creatures than bell's skill. To each their own. going mind down after a single cast is almost useless in a dungeon, that's a fact. Mages are very useful, that's a fact, too. frenze12 said: Just a question: If they really needed "the 500" and "the rest", then why did they gave Bell all the credit? Why do they treat him as the "only hero"? Do all the ones that tanked the boss do not get credit so Mister Main character could have enough time to prepare his strongest attack? The divine system is doing what you said. For peoples, well, they're just happy. Anyone would do. |
ZefyrisJun 27, 2015 4:02 PM
Jun 27, 2015 4:10 PM
#256
So by the end of the show it feels quite hollow... you can really feel that there's a ton of important information missing that kinda detracts from the series. Though, I guess you could say the show was successful in that myself and many others now want to read the light novels so we can understand what the hell was going on, because it was certainly good and drew your interest, but ultimately confusing and underwhelming. I enjoyed the ride enough that I'm looking forward to reading the novels and getting the proper experience, so I'd say it did well enough. |
Jun 27, 2015 4:13 PM
#257
Well this was a good ride. Nothing extraordinary and I'm seriously surprised by all the hype this anime got but still it was entertaining. The RPG like world with levels ups, dungeons and parties was fun for sure. It would suit a Virtual Reality setting better imo but oh well. Aside from that the fan service was cute and the fighting scenes were above average especially compared with other anime from this season (cough cough Owari no animation cough). I wouldn't mind a second season that is for sure. To be honest in this one we barely learned anything story wise. Just some background info for 2-3 characters. Oh well. PS> Aiz and Lilly best girls. #HestiaFans go away |
Jun 27, 2015 4:58 PM
#258
Jun 27, 2015 5:42 PM
#259
i did not expect that ep13 will be the last episode, i'm expecting a lot more episode.... about what will happen to freya... and more... |
Jun 27, 2015 5:58 PM
#260
blue-y said: That scene where Bell used a long sword, whose sword was that? :o At first I thought his short black sword turned long but turned out it seems to be a different sword. And who said "Limit off"? Bell???? ^This. Glad i'm not the only one. Was that sword supposed to be special or something? I like how he's constantly using other weapons instead of the special knife/dagger thing Hestia gave him. Also what the hell was the Limit Off? (P.S i think Lili is an annoying turd too) |
Jun 27, 2015 6:34 PM
#261
"Bell's the only one that can do it!" B-But he just turned level 2 a day ago...meanwhile there are also like a hundred level 2s that can't do a thing as well as Ryuu and Asfi @ level 4 but apparently ONLY Bell is capable of beating it with his OP Argonaut skill was is stronger than the 5 mages attack. Minotaur fight was much better and highlight of the show for me. |
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Jun 27, 2015 6:51 PM
#262
Okay, so I really liked this episode overall. The series overall, I'd give it a 8/10, but because of this episode I'd give it an extra point. Throughout the whole series, the plot seemed sort of pointless, though it was very entertaining cuz of Bell. Bell is bae. (IMO) best character. Hestia.. From the beginning, she kinda felt like she was just a supporting character. But as the episodes went by, I learned to appreciate her & felt more of a MC. Now, with this episode, great fight. As someone mentioned before, the teamwork was awesome!! For the most part, everyone did their part. And for anyone who didn't, it felt okay. Also, we now see more of Bell's Familia, which I had been wondering about from the last couple of episodes. We also know who his grandpa was, Zeus. Great twist, makes more interesting. Bell going OP was awesome too! I kinda did expect him to defeat the giant thing (forgot what it's called). Tbh, I was kinda expecting it to be kinda like SAO. I couldn't help it. The animation was similar, & Bell kinda felt like Kirito, also seeing that they both had the same voice actor lol. But since I was kinda underrating it, this episode kinda surprised me, & I might be overrating it a bit now lol. Really enjoyed the series. I'm sure there'll be a second season, though, it might be really delayed. But I'm not waiting that long. Gonna go read the LN/manga instead lol. ALSO, I have a feeling that lady(the red head lady who looks like a Goddess that's stalking Bell) might have something to do with Zeus and what happened to his familia. Cuz she was definitely waiting for Bell(along with Hermes, who could possibly be related or allied to her, though I doubt it) to go OP. But we didn't see her this time. |
Thiss_grllJun 27, 2015 6:55 PM
Jun 27, 2015 6:53 PM
#263
Everyone shows how badass they can be, especially Ryu, Mikoto, Welf, and Bell. Hmm, so Bell is the grandson of Zeus? No wonder he's freakin' awesome. So, I really enjoyed watching this anime and I do hope for a Season 2. As for Zefyris, I thank you for explaining all the shit. Without you, I would have enjoyed this anime less. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
Jun 27, 2015 7:17 PM
#264
I Looooooveeeee this Anime I want more 😱😱😱😰 |
Jun 27, 2015 7:21 PM
#265
Great job JC Staff! And IMO this was the best show of last season! And yes... this is a knock at UBW :p |
Jun 27, 2015 9:11 PM
#266
Just mindless action-packed fun is what I came for, and that's what I got. Entertaining series and hoping for a season 2. 7/10. |
*insert cringey anime reference here* |
Jun 27, 2015 10:00 PM
#267
TheGrandSage23 said: Pretty much wasted potential. Too much ecchi and fanservice Did you read the title? If you expected it to have no fan service what so ever. then you clearly picked the wrong anime titled "Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?". I found this anime extremely lighthearted and enjoyable to watch. Was is perfect? No, but it is easy to find flaws in all works of art. The manga is also thoroughly enjoyable for those people looking for more Bell Cranel. |
Jun 27, 2015 11:24 PM
#268
Not a fan of the Zeus thing, it really kills the underdog theme the story's been building up |
Jun 28, 2015 12:55 AM
#269
This is fairly good in my experience. I wish they could make a 2nd season or atleast make it happen. It's definitely better than SAO (actually it is soo much better than SAO): it has a good character development, it has enjoyable characters and a good plot to hold it all up. Overall: 8/10 or 9/10 (if they made a second season to make the story more detailed, so it would be reasonable to make it a 9/10 rating) |
Jun 28, 2015 1:55 AM
#270
Sora_NGNL said: This is fairly good in my experience. I wish they could make a 2nd season or atleast make it happen. It's definitely better than SAO (actually it is soo much better than SAO): it has a good character development, it has enjoyable characters and a good plot to hold it all up. Overall: 8/10 or 9/10 (if they made a second season to make the story more detailed, so it would be reasonable to make it a 9/10 rating) I gave it a 9 too... and also compared it to my ex-favorite dungeon crawler show SAO... DanMachi has toppled it easily. :P Such adorable and fun characters, also interesting world that could be expanded upon too with all the familas and gods. Story feels not even 1/4 finished! Was this show popular in Japan? Kind of wondering what are the chances of it continuing really... would love for it to get a new season. |
Jun 28, 2015 4:23 AM
#272
Hermes officially my fav character from this show, lol, I hope there would be more about him :) Aiz best girl. great episode to finish this season. Satisfying ending. Anyways, J.C. Staff did amazing job in this anime. This series was exciting from start to finish, second half was really intensive. easy 9/10, gonna read novels. P.s Gives me SAO vibes... But nothing close to SAO greatness, for me. |
TapuTapuuJun 28, 2015 4:50 AM
Jun 28, 2015 5:40 AM
#273
Absolutely loved this anime to pieces, but it failed where most short 12-13 episode anime fail. Not enough time to answer all the questions that get brought up, and too sudden on an ending, and rushed last episode. I hate how the ending just leaves you with more questions than answers, too much new content in the last 5 minutes. still deciding on a 7/10 or 8/10 - although I really, really badly want to give this a 9/10 or even a 10/10 - I just can't with it as it is. If a second season is announced that helps to address the issues S1 left with, then I'll likely increase my score, providing it doesn't shit all over S1. Definitely plan on buying this one, so I hope a good UK/NZ/AU company licenses this! |
RydakoJun 28, 2015 5:44 AM
Jun 28, 2015 6:46 AM
#274
Enjoyed the little moment of Hestia and Lily putting aside their rivalry and work together. Disliked the moment of Bell rescuing the very dude who bullied him in previous episode, and hated pretty much everything else. The battle felt too dragged out and predictable in how the Boss floor would obviously be able to stand up again even after being bombastically nuked off. A meh ending for otherwise a decent series. A bit forgettable perhaps, but overall it was enjoyable ride. |
Jun 28, 2015 7:27 AM
#275
I really enjoyed this series and I'm looking forward for season 2 :) |
Jun 28, 2015 8:38 AM
#277
Attack on Dungeon! That's what I can see. Why suddenly Bell uses a Sword instead of a Dagger on the Flash Slash? It doesn't make sense since Bell was not a sword user... It looks like no one is dead during the whole fight... Bell get all the girls, KIRITO END. |
Jun 28, 2015 8:53 AM
#278
Finally found the time to watch this and yes the final battle, whilst still good in terms of plot progression and faithfulness to the novels, really felt lacking in certain areas. For one, the use of way too many vertical scrolling still images irked me to no end. The way they did it would have been nice if they were only showing a few adventurers in the fight, but essentially this was suppose to be an entire town full of adventurers beating down on the SS Goliath and those upper level lackey monsters that he called down. Seriously, anyone outside of the SS Goliath's immediate vicinity (bar those mage adventurers on the cliff and the adventurers protecting them) didn't get an iota of animation. Considering how well they did with Episode 8, I feel majorly let down. Ryu and Asufi had their moments, I loved that they animated Ryu's moving enchantment and Asufi's Winged Sandals (tribute to Hermes no doubt), and even Mikoto, Chigusa, Ouka and Welf had their moments. Still, if anything it felt really off when they skipped Bell's awakening scene (after he got hit by SS Goliath the first time), and went immediately to him charging his Argonaut skill. They really didn't show him struggling as much as he should have been when dancing around the SS Goliath. For info sake: the Black SS Goliath is NOT the Goliath that Bell encountered before he arrived at Floor 18. That one was probably turned into mincemeat when Aiz and the rest of Loki's adventurers went ahead in the first party that left (earlier in the day, before Mord kidnapped Hestia). Normally once a floor-boss spawns, it would have to take a week or two after it gets defeated before the dungeon would spawn the next one. This SS Goliath, however, only spawned when Hestia revealed her Divine Authority during Mord's fight with Bell. Think of it as a reaction from the Dungeon. The specifics of what composes the Dungeon have yet to be explained, but essentially it's hate for Gods/Goddesses caused it to immediately pop the SS Goliath down onto the floor where it last felt a Divine presence. That's why there's a rule that Gods and Goddesses aren't allowed in the Dungeons. Also, from all information sources, Bell is the ADOPTED Grandson of Zeus. From the information I've gathered thus far, there has been no confirmation or denial that Gods/Goddesses in the Danmachi world are able to procreate. So no, he's not a half-god and no he's not OP because of this reason. What is OP is that he has four rare skills: 1.) a quick-strike Magic spell that spits Flames from his hand, which was gifted to him by a Yandere Goddess, 2.) another Skill that enables a Chargeable One-Strike attack that's based on a Hero's "Final move", which developed after he singlehandedly defeated a minotaur and based off his love for Heroes, 3.) A Skill that enables him to speed level-up, which developed due to his strong feelings for a girl he admired, 4.) as well as a passive skill called "Luck" (which many people seem to have forgotten), which he gained when he leveled up to Level 2 status. It's not like he's ridiculously OP. The only reason he wasn't dead was because he had a shitload of help from unexpectedly high leveled friends and a town full of like-levelled adventurers (supposedly 500 people, which we couldn't see) to keep the SS Goliath at bay and wear it down before he could charge up and release his Argonaut skill. Ultimately because of how they botched the final battle, I had to drop my score to an 8. Take nothing away from it though, because the story being as simple and straightforward as it was, was a joy to watch for it's characters and it's theme. Overall, it was a fun ride, made all the better only because I'd read it in advance. Enjoyed the series immensely and would love for a second season to be adapted. Considering the materials they have available (Vol 6-8 out), that Omori-sensei seems to be writing at a fast pace (Vol 9 coming Sept 15th), and the fact that each new novel is longer than the previous one, I can totally see a second season happening in a year or so. Just hope next time they do the smart thing and make it 2 cour to better adapt everything. I stand by my opinion that they should have made this series 2 cour to fit in all the missing info. |
HESTIA |
Jun 28, 2015 9:20 AM
#279
Not as intense as Bell VS Minotaur, but it was a good fight XD Good series overall. 8/10 |
Jun 28, 2015 10:04 AM
#280
The ending was honestly a little disappointing. This fight was supposed to take it to another level, but in the end felt less exhilarating than even the Minotaur fight 'cause it was basically Bell activating cheat codes and one-shotting what's standing right in front of him. Don't get me wrong, I was still a bit pumped, but that closing left me more than a bit wanting. That being said, this series overall was rather excellent. The animation quality only dropped off a bit in the last few episodes, and not particularly noticeable at that. The action is decent. The characters are pretty charming, and the cast as a whole is endearing. This is quite simply what people were hoping SAO to be (and of course we all know how far SAO derailed from its original premise, so far that the author is right now retconning the whole first arc)--action, adventure, and development. The only downfall I think for DanMachi is that it's too smooth for now. We know from the outset that Bell has a broken growth ability. He's gained another one with this comeback strike thing. It's of course refreshing in a sense that we're watching a series that will almost never feature anything pessimistic (heck, its tone is brighter than that of SAO...), but I wonder how long it'll take for the formula of "Bell encounters difficulty-gets over it by being broken-smiles in great optimism" get old. 9/10, though really more like a 8. But I liked the characters enough. As for those of you who're wondering, DanMachi is fairly likely to get a season 2. It's popular enough in Japan right now to essentially be around everywhere. Although BD sales are still up in the air, it'd be very surprising if this was it. I mean, there's so much to be milked. And I'm not just talking about Hestia. |
Jun 28, 2015 10:57 AM
#281
I propose we change it to Deus Ex Bell Also the elf had canonically been on that floor before, so she had also canonically beaten that boss before, unless you're saying it's standard procedure to just skip every boss by walking past them? |
Jun 28, 2015 11:03 AM
#282
Okay, loved the spells casting and everyone showing how badass they can be. The anime adapitation just made me want to read the manga. It was good, but everything they show to us have "Go read the manga e the LN, this is just a little of the history" all over it, and i gonna do that Loved Dungeon ni deai |
Jun 28, 2015 11:04 AM
#283
Zefyris said: /facepalm. 18 and below are still floor with level 2 monsters. Simply, it's not made for a ridiculously small party composed of one level 2 that just passed his level and 1 level 1 + supporter. I don't know where exactly start the level 3 monster, but most probably below floor 25, to the very least. I get it, you like an oversized scary monster and bright flashy light and that is what you got from this anime. You don't pay attention to the story, you don't care about the story, you got your random flashy lights so you're satisfied. Us people that expect a story however did not get it. Bell skipped to this level to get high level help because he wasn't able to make it back to the entrance from level 11. The dozens and dozens of people which where completely unable to deal with this monster that he was able to blow up by himself, were the high level characters who had fought their way to this floor and the floors below to farm. If you were able to follow the story and not just be entranced by bright flashy lights, you'd be able to understand this. Zefyris said: It's 3 minutes full charge without limit off. Longer with limit off. For the mages, it's just a chant, which is shorter. And the mages can repeat it again and again. The mages have a far wider area of effect too, far more useful on hordes of creatures than bell's skill. To each their own. going mind down after a single cast is almost useless in a dungeon, that's a fact. Mages are very useful, that's a fact, too. Absolutely none of this is presented in the anime. We are shown him training, we are shown him using his bolt, none of this indicated he could pull off things far more powerful characters can't do. This is called... bad writing. Bell, as per Hestia's description, was the only one able to deal with the monster. Everyone else there, despite being higher level, more experienced, better equipped, in parties and having more time to charge powers where not able to get to it's crystal and do what Bell did. What part of any of this do you not understand to be ridiculous, overpowered, badly written garbage? It was a very standard shounen battle written for 8-12 year olds who don't care about anything making sense, writing, story, characters or anything else, just as long as "trying harder" solves everything and big things explode in pretty lights. You like that sort of thing, I don't. I expect that the previous 12 episodes are going to lead up to something that is connected to them, not a guy randomly pulling new powers out of nowhere to completely break all the rules that have been set down in previous episodes, completely invalidating everything just to look super awesome OMG cool in the final fight. |
SokahJun 28, 2015 11:09 AM
Jun 28, 2015 12:45 PM
#285
A lot of fun no doubt, give the series an 8/10. Would definitely watch a 2nd season though. It feels like there were loose ends for another season to continue on but at the same time they wrapped it up well in a way that you can imagine how things play out. Still a second season is necessary imo. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
Jun 28, 2015 1:18 PM
#286
Sokah said: Zefyris said: It's 3 minutes full charge without limit off. Longer with limit off. For the mages, it's just a chant, which is shorter. And the mages can repeat it again and again. The mages have a far wider area of effect too, far more useful on hordes of creatures than bell's skill. To each their own. going mind down after a single cast is almost useless in a dungeon, that's a fact. Mages are very useful, that's a fact, too. Absolutely none of this is presented in the anime. We are shown him training, we are shown him using his bolt, none of this indicated he could pull off things far more powerful characters can't do. This is called... bad writing. Bell, as per Hestia's description, was the only one able to deal with the monster. Everyone else there, despite being higher level, more experienced, better equipped, in parties and having more time to charge powers where not able to get to it's crystal and do what Bell did. What part of any of this do you not understand to be ridiculous, overpowered, badly written garbage? It was a very standard shounen battle written for 8-12 year olds who don't care about anything making sense, writing, story, characters or anything else, just as long as "trying harder" solves everything and big things explode in pretty lights. You like that sort of thing, I don't. I expect that the previous 12 episodes are going to lead up to something that is connected to them, not a guy randomly pulling new powers out of nowhere to completely break all the rules that have been set down in previous episodes, completely invalidating everything just to look super awesome OMG cool in the final fight. So you're complaining that Hero's Strike (is that its actual name?) wasn't foreshadowed? I will agree on Limit Off (what does it actually do?, why did we never hear about this etc) but foreshadowing is NOT mandatory. Hestia said those things BECAUSE she knows of Hero's Strike (which is funny that she expected this but not Limit Off) and I suspect she knows he is Zeus' grandson (adopted or not). In an extra point: You're right, shounens are for teenagers. Teenagers don't care about the intricacies of good story-telling such as exposition, not breaking the world's rules or mechanics etc. Most anime, which are shounen or contain shounen-elements, are about entertainment first and foremost. Can't have 10 min long talk explaining why X does Y to Z etc. |
Jun 28, 2015 3:27 PM
#287
Anime ending left me quite... unsatisfied. Sure, the action was pretty great, but things happened during the anime that didn't get a proper explanation, for example: - Who is the guy that trained the minotaur and why did he do that? - What is Freya up to? Or did she just have the same interest as Hermes and she tried to see if Zeus' grandson was quite good or not? - Same thing about Syr, she's quite suspicious - The guys going after Lili, I don't think they handled that properly yet Also, I think they should have spent a bit more attention to the backstory as well. True, they've given some information about the gods and what they can/cannot do at the start, but I think that wasn't explained properly enough. Also the leveling/abilities are lacking more information, it seems that levels are quite an achievement (you wouldn't think a level 2 is really special). And finally, the entire anime is named after picking up a girl (like Aiz) in a dungeon... the last episode didn't have enough Aiz within it. Overall, a good anime and I enjoyed watching it, but I think that 13 episodes wasn't enough to handle all the subplots and backstory properly enough. |
Jun 28, 2015 5:16 PM
#288
BlackCrescent said: Attack on Dungeon! That's what I can see. Why suddenly Bell uses a Sword instead of a Dagger on the Flash Slash? It doesn't make sense since Bell was not a sword user... It looks like no one is dead during the whole fight... Bell get all the girls, KIRITO END. Yea because Bell can only use daggers right? not like he used a sword given to him by Lili during her introduction arc or when he fought the Minotaur or again with the Minotaur's own sword or with a big axe when trying to get down to the 18th floor. Sokah said: Zefyris said: It's 3 minutes full charge without limit off. Longer with limit off. For the mages, it's just a chant, which is shorter. And the mages can repeat it again and again. The mages have a far wider area of effect too, far more useful on hordes of creatures than bell's skill. To each their own. going mind down after a single cast is almost useless in a dungeon, that's a fact. Mages are very useful, that's a fact, too. Absolutely none of this is presented in the anime. We are shown him training, we are shown him using his bolt, none of this indicated he could pull off things far more powerful characters can't do. This is called... bad writing. Bell, as per Hestia's description, was the only one able to deal with the monster. Everyone else there, despite being higher level, more experienced, better equipped, in parties and having more time to charge powers where not able to get to it's crystal and do what Bell did. What part of any of this do you not understand to be ridiculous, overpowered, badly written garbage? It was a very standard shounen battle written for 8-12 year olds who don't care about anything making sense, writing, story, characters or anything else, just as long as "trying harder" solves everything and big things explode in pretty lights. You like that sort of thing, I don't. I expect that the previous 12 episodes are going to lead up to something that is connected to them, not a guy randomly pulling new powers out of nowhere to completely break all the rules that have been set down in previous episodes, completely invalidating everything just to look super awesome OMG cool in the final fight. What are you on about his Hero's Strike was used multiple times before, the first time was against the baby dragon and then again against the 3 Minotaur's the one he used this episode at the end was just a super charged one with limit break. Hestia even described the skill when he got it and gave the exact same description of it again when he used it this episode. Limit break is the only thing that could of used an explanation but that seems to be something Adventurers have rather than one of Bell's specific skills. |
DragoonDeusJun 28, 2015 6:43 PM
Othinus Touma Pairing http://hestia.dance/ |
Jun 28, 2015 5:58 PM
#289
SovereignSky said: Sokah said: Zefyris said: It's 3 minutes full charge without limit off. Longer with limit off. For the mages, it's just a chant, which is shorter. And the mages can repeat it again and again. The mages have a far wider area of effect too, far more useful on hordes of creatures than bell's skill. To each their own. going mind down after a single cast is almost useless in a dungeon, that's a fact. Mages are very useful, that's a fact, too. Absolutely none of this is presented in the anime. We are shown him training, we are shown him using his bolt, none of this indicated he could pull off things far more powerful characters can't do. This is called... bad writing. Bell, as per Hestia's description, was the only one able to deal with the monster. Everyone else there, despite being higher level, more experienced, better equipped, in parties and having more time to charge powers where not able to get to it's crystal and do what Bell did. What part of any of this do you not understand to be ridiculous, overpowered, badly written garbage? It was a very standard shounen battle written for 8-12 year olds who don't care about anything making sense, writing, story, characters or anything else, just as long as "trying harder" solves everything and big things explode in pretty lights. You like that sort of thing, I don't. I expect that the previous 12 episodes are going to lead up to something that is connected to them, not a guy randomly pulling new powers out of nowhere to completely break all the rules that have been set down in previous episodes, completely invalidating everything just to look super awesome OMG cool in the final fight. So you're complaining that Hero's Strike (is that its actual name?) wasn't foreshadowed? I will agree on Limit Off (what does it actually do?, why did we never hear about this etc) but foreshadowing is NOT mandatory. Hestia said those things BECAUSE she knows of Hero's Strike (which is funny that she expected this but not Limit Off) and I suspect she knows he is Zeus' grandson (adopted or not). In an extra point: You're right, shounens are for teenagers. Teenagers don't care about the intricacies of good story-telling such as exposition, not breaking the world's rules or mechanics etc. Most anime, which are shounen or contain shounen-elements, are about entertainment first and foremost. Can't have 10 min long talk explaining why X does Y to Z etc. @Sokah mostly Would also like to add, not for argument, but for informational purposes, that the only ones actually facing the SS Goliath close range were Ryu and Asufi (Both level 4s), they showed Ouka and Welf trying and then being forced to fall back. Other than Bell's party, and the long ranged attacks (both physical and magical) by the town adventurers, no other adventurer was in the immediate vicinity of the SS Goliath. The rest of the adventurers were busy taking on the upper level monsters that the SS Goliath had called down. Considering the Goliath's level (5), compared with the regular Floor Boss Goliath (level 2), I highly doubt that any melee adventurer would dare fighting like Ryu or Asufi did. Also, as SovereignSky mentioned, they did tease the Argonaut skill with the baby dragon a few episodes back. Remember that? That Dragon was likened to a mini floor boss already, and yet Bell one-shot it with no remains. So yes it HAS been teased before, you just forgot about it. The only thing which they didn't mention was the Limit Off. Hestia's words to Bell were when he was in an unconscious state. Those were words of encouragement that you see in every Shounen to get the MC to wake up quickly. I'm guessing you don't watch too much Shounen, eh? Were the words meant to be technical? I don't know, but I highly doubt it since Hestia has never been in the Dungeon and has never seen what the Argonaut skill could do anyway. The reason why I listed his OP skills in my previous post were because those were the skills that he used to final-hit the Goliath, yet all of those skills had already been mentioned and displayed earlier in the Anime, not to mention in the LN, at one point or another. They weren't skills that just suddenly, as you say, popped up out of nowhere. It was only due to those skills that he acquired plus all the help from his friends that he ended up vaporizing half the Goliath's body with the Argonaut (exposing the monster's crystal, and yet the Goliath still lived), it was thanks to the Amazing agility that he developed throughout the first four and a half books that allowed him to wall-crawl to the Goliath's torso (and the fact that he was the closest Melee in the vicinity after Ryu and Asufi had been blown away: chalk that down to Luck) to deliver the finishing blow. None of his skills, bar a more powerful charge of the Argonaut, was only suddenly brought to our attention. His skills have all been explained before. Just because certain things haven't been shown in the Anime, does not mean that it wasn't mentioned in the books. Call it all you want, but poor adaptation of source material doesn't equal to bad writing on the author's part. |
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Jun 28, 2015 6:02 PM
#290
Fin... is this already end? I actually want S2 btw nice anime 7.5/10 |
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Jun 28, 2015 6:56 PM
#291
Well, it started off as a typical anime with a weak main character, but who would have known that the "weak" main character would cap it off with a finisher full of badassness. Anyways, this provided a life lesson, summary: "Even if you are weak and cant do much, risking yourself for others will make you become a hero". Entertaining Anime nonetheless.. Bell x Aiz, Supporter-san, Hestia and all other ftw lol |
Jun 28, 2015 9:01 PM
#292
S2 WHEN |
Jun 28, 2015 10:13 PM
#293
Bell is more human than divinity, so I suspect that his father is probably Hercules, making Bell only a quarter divinity. However, it's interesting that he's Zeus's grandson. What that means is that Hestia may actually be his great aunt. Zeus and Hestia are both the offspring of Cronus and Rhea in Greek mythology. |
Jun 28, 2015 10:43 PM
#294
Season 2 Anyone? Going Kirito mode beating up eren I need more! |
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Jun 28, 2015 11:55 PM
#295
This was a good show, need season 2. My thoughts: Bell - You lucky bastard. Hestia - Wow... dem oppais... oppai loli... wow... can i have u too? Aiz - 10/10 Shiina Mashiro. You're too cute, you must also be a professional artist Lilith - Your cat ears nyan, but be cuter stop saying Bell-sama This episode was awesome, 5/5 and this series is a 8.5/10 I'll probably give 9 cuz I'm generous. |
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Jun 29, 2015 12:30 AM
#296
Son/Grandson of Zues, interesting. Alright final, just maybe too large scale and kind of abrupt. |
Jun 29, 2015 12:33 AM
#297
I really enjoyed this show, and I liked how the ENTIRE episode was the boss fight. and with S2 as an unknown, i feel a little jipped. This had the potential to be something OUTSTANDING. But instead, it was just "Pretty good" But I will most definetely watch season 2 if there is one. Also... With that GIGANTIC magic stone... who got all that money? Were there any drops? |
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Jun 29, 2015 1:21 AM
#298
This episode was nice but it just didn't really feel as satisfying as the minotaur fight. Everything felt so sped up, so unnatural. Finale didn't impress instead it felt like it was trying too hard to be THE boss fight. There wasn't enough tension I guess. I love the show despite this lackluster finale. Imo, they did the cliches well. The fight scenes were really good especially the minotaur fight. The show could've probably been better if they had made this 2-cour so there would be more character development and the wait for a second season wouldn't be as long since I hear the anime is pretty much caught up to the source material? 8.5/10 |
Jun 29, 2015 2:20 AM
#299
Jun 29, 2015 2:29 AM
#300
I really enjoyed this series, sad it was so short. Think I will check out the novels, are they good for those who have read them? |
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