Sousou no Frieren Episode 27 Discussion

so you mean to tell me that with that big aura, serie is suppressing it like frieren because is fluctuating?, unless she is not suppressing it that much, wich I doubt.

I was wondering how they will do the 3rd exam with 2 chapter left, I guess it fit. I will miss this anime so much, I will jump to the manga asap.

Doesn't she dislike the idea of humans becoming more powerful than Elves? It'd make sense that she pushes humans away from concealing their mana. She might just be outright lying and it is the best way to train, she's just purposefully handicapping humans to delay the arrival of the human age?

Can someone tell me without spoiling anything important if this Lernen guy will appear later in the manga showing his powers? I really got intrigued there, Serie implied that he was as strong if not stronger than Frieren (As a human that is impressive)

Can someone tell me without spoiling anything important if this Lernen guy will appear later in the manga showing his powers? I really got intrigued there, Serie implied that he was as strong if not stronger than Frieren (As a human that is impressive)

@Aapjuh

1. Serie created the exam to cull weak mages and find powerful mages, not to create a fair, standardized exam - it is a bs test because it was never meant to be anything else.

2. Before this specific incident, the exam system is actually very unfair - they mention that no mage has ever passed a test from Sense, so that second exam was meant to be an almost impossible task. It's not structured in a way that unqualified mages can pass; if anything, it's structured so that even qualified mages could fail. But if a mage was truly powerful, they'd be able to pass whatever random and unfair challenge that the proctors administer, hence why the exam system was serving its purpose before Frieren showed up.

3. It's not that "Serie doesn't always proctor", it's that she's never proctored before. Someone like Frieren showing up has never happened before, and it just happened to be when Sense was administering a teamwork-based exam, creating this unique situation where unqualified mages passed an impossible test. Because it was so rare, she stepped in to fix it.

Wow Fern passed! How about Frieren?

I LOVE THISSSSSSSSS. Prolly another 10/10 ep. And only one more episode till it all ends for a year as the producers would want to milk all the manga sales they can before releasing a new season i think.
But i dont understand still what type of mage Serie wants Frieren to be, further more the fact Fern saw a fluctuation means that she is also concealing her mana and as per that old first class mages observation her concealed manna is the amount similar to Frierens unconcealed. Prolly gonna look into it too see if its true. Funny af how Serie said she will never take a human student and then meets Fern Lmaoo.
Cant wait for the last ep ee.

It sounds bad but Im glad Kanne failed, she wasnt strong enough and more importantly it would suck if Lawine had to retake the test alone

Im curious if only Fern passed, or maybe Denken too? His mana detection is pretty good after all.
Speaking of Denken I love how Laufen just sticks around like a grandchild for free candy.

Serie just failing all of them makes the earlier deaths so meaningless..

My theory about Lernen: He could see through Series mana and judged correctly that Frierens is about equal.
Crazy theory: Serie is inflating her mana to look stronger than she is. As she said nobody can imagine fighting her and winning, as magic is about visualizing. That means shes artifically buffing herself.

Amazing episode. I will miss this show dearly.

@Aaronide_ger

I was spoiled by reading the Wiki. Speaking in not so specific terms, even before

Not sure though if they will show it in the next episode or the next season.

I concur, Frieren was only there to support Fern, and she repeatedly said that she couldn't care less about being a 1st class mage since it's just mere title with some poultry privileges that doesn't interest her. Even the ultimate reward of Serie giving any spell of their choice didn't motivate her because she appreciates the search more than anything else.


Just one episode left. Until we meet again.

I don't think Serie is petty or childish. For her magic is about power and she has a very clear idea of the kind of mage she wants as 1st class mage. Like Denken said, 1rst class mage is a symbol of power and Frieren just does not represent the symbol of power Serie wish for.

You know after this episode, I really dislike Serie. She fails Frieren just out of absolute pettiness. Basically her excuse amounts to "I fail you because you think I would fail you no matter what." The overall result for the exam was fairly unsatisfying, thanks to Serie.

I don't even feel I can be happy about Fern passing cause Frieren not passing is so frustrating.

@33orion77
I don't really agree with your assessment here and I think you entirely misunderstood what Denken was saying.

Denken was essentially saying ruling with actual power doesn't work for long, and first class mages being "powerful" just needs to be symbolic. He literally says "Unless you can control people's hearts, you're as good as powerless".

Now in regards to actual power, Frieren embodies that quite well. So if Serie is only looking for mages that are actually powerful, Frieren easily surpasses the requirement of that. So really the only reason that exists for failing Frieren is because Frieren has a different view than she does. Not really certain how you can say that's not petty or childish. Yes it is. Especially considering we are not talking about just some "private" fan club here that isn't important. We are talking about mage rankings of which is required for traveling passed certain checkpoints.

@MarchinBunny
I guess I phrased it wrong, instead of symbol I should probably have used another word.

Back to Frieren, sure Frieren has power but she is not seeking power and that is something important for Serie. She wants mage of conflicts. You may call it childish, but like in any organisations, if yours views are not the same as the leadership's you'll become a black sheep and promotion will be very difficult.

I'll keep watching this anime in hope that someone beats the shit out of Serie. That is all.