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Apr 30, 2009 1:49 PM

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kaminakun said:
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Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much.

Lol, sorry but since some aspects of the show are so naive, I think I'll have to pull out the Epic Fail card. I'd say this show is more targeted towards teenagers. I doubt anyone mature enough would seek something deep in a mecha show like Gundam... (Especially this one) Then again the show might just be the japanese view of post-9/11 so what seems naive to me, might not be for them.


I second that.

"Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much." = epic fail right there. Then again, a failure producer for a failure series :)


I third that. GN Particles are intended for the adult audiences lol.
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i think gundam 00 pulled in male fans
everyone i know who watches gudnam 00 is a guy...
and this was my first gundam
i really enjoyed 00
so i think gundam 00 actually pulled in male fans
Apr 30, 2009 2:24 PM

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meh for me 00 is the best AU Gundam
not know well for UC...
SEED ?
lol don't make me laugh.
we already know CE is 'resetted' UC btw.

for the topic itself
yeah i think 00 is more suited to male fans.
yes many "bishounen" in this series, but i think the directing is more suited to male audience.
not many gal's out there interested with engine fetish maniac XD

personally i think 00 kinda similar with W
Apr 30, 2009 2:28 PM
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yarvenclog said:
I thought all the characters in G00 were all too mysterious and lone wolf, which is probably why it appealed to woman so much. My personal favorite gundam series is 8th MS Team. I love the gritty realism and how the Gundams arent invincible.

Also I agree that there should have been more background on the characters in the first season. Because I found myself not caring what happened to them, until the second season.

agree 08th ms team was the best
can't say much about gundam 00 as i didn't watch most of it
Apr 30, 2009 3:00 PM

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hmm, I always though from seed onwards it was aimed at female audience more than male due to the appearance of the characters.
Well, I'm still waiting for a Gundam series with mid-30yrs old veteran pilot as the main character, and Crossbone...
Apr 30, 2009 3:36 PM

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Gundam 00 for males? Some of the promotional art tells otherwise LMAO.
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G GUNDAM 2 now!
Apr 30, 2009 4:54 PM

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Friendlysoul said:
I liked the Gundam 00 better, the kids can go watch something else!
I wanted some thought in my anime, not just battles.


Fuck yeah.
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Apr 30, 2009 5:17 PM

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Friendlysoul said:
I liked the Gundam 00 better, the kids can go watch something else!
I wanted some thought in my anime, not just battles.

kaena said:
i think gundam 00 pulled in male fans
everyone i know who watches gudnam 00 is a guy...
and this was my first gundam
i really enjoyed 00
so i think gundam 00 actually pulled in male fans
Apr 30, 2009 5:26 PM

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I just hope that Gundam Unicorn will be made for adult audiences and not the "next Gundam anime for kids".

Since when was Gundam for kids...? Aside from the SD series which are all games. Perhaps, they should produce a SD Gundam anime to win back their children fans. However, not sure about other Gundam fans, I won't be watching it unless its like Hetalia.
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Kira01 said:
I just hope that Gundam Unicorn will be made for adult audiences and not the "next Gundam anime for kids".

Since when was Gundam for kids...? Aside from the SD series which are all games. Perhaps, they should produce a SD Gundam anime to win back their children fans. However, not sure about other Gundam fans, I won't be watching it unless its like Hetalia.


Gundam has always been for kids since they realised how many toys they could sell from all the model kits they sold. Probably soon after Zeta they realized the kiddy-toy selling power, since then thats all Gundam has been, one big commercial to sell toys.

Especially the new Gundam series, even more so in 00s2, the Masuoro and Susanoo had such a tiny and insignificant role in the series, it was just there to make poses and look cool and eventually sell toys.

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Kraker2k said:
Kira01 said:
I just hope that Gundam Unicorn will be made for adult audiences and not the "next Gundam anime for kids".

Since when was Gundam for kids...? Aside from the SD series which are all games. Perhaps, they should produce a SD Gundam anime to win back their children fans. However, not sure about other Gundam fans, I won't be watching it unless its like Hetalia.


Gundam has always been for kids since they realised how many toys they could sell from all the model kits they sold. Probably soon after Zeta they realized the kiddy-toy selling power, since then thats all Gundam has been, one big commercial to sell toys.

Especially the new Gundam series, even more so in 00s2, the Masuoro and Susanoo had such a tiny and insignificant role in the series, it was just there to make poses and look cool and eventually sell toys.
Even the insides of the S2 mechs look like Gunpla.
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Kira01 said:
I just hope that Gundam Unicorn will be made for adult audiences and not the "next Gundam anime for kids".

Since when was Gundam for kids...? Aside from the SD series which are all games. Perhaps, they should produce a SD Gundam anime to win back their children fans. However, not sure about other Gundam fans, I won't be watching it unless its like Hetalia.


SD Gundam burned my eyes. Even if I was a child when it came out, I'd still hate it with a passion.

Apr 30, 2009 7:18 PM

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I thought 00 was great. Loved the more mature aspect to it. Should keep at it.
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I am a male, I can see it is targeted for men, however if they didn't want females they wouldn't have made all the guys look like girls.

Also the show is very cheap in protecting the Gundams from anything not in a Gundam.
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Apr 30, 2009 11:48 PM

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Soulstrider said:
kaminakun said:
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Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much.

Lol, sorry but since some aspects of the show are so naive, I think I'll have to pull out the Epic Fail card. I'd say this show is more targeted towards teenagers. I doubt anyone mature enough would seek something deep in a mecha show like Gundam... (Especially this one) Then again the show might just be the japanese view of post-9/11 so what seems naive to me, might not be for them.


I second that.

"Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much." = epic fail right there. Then again, a failure producer for a failure series :)


I third that. GN Particles are intended for the adult audiences lol.


No, I understand where he was going with the GN Drive thing. You need some sort of plausible explanation for why the robots can do all this crazy crap. Actually, Mizushima made a very good point when he said, "Yeah, Gundam is Real Robot but if you make it too realistic you realize that robots in a humanoid shape doesn't really make sense." And, it doesn't. :P

Anyway, I was a pretty big fan of this series and I'm a male, so I guess it worked. Then again, the last episode of Season 2 I saw was 9. Apparently in that amount of time its gone through the typical anime fan cycle (where it goes from "most awesome thing evar!" to "epic" fail) so I don't know what happened in the interrim.

I don't like the idea of the next series being aimed at kids though...that's worrying, just a bit.
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SageShinigami said:
I don't like the idea of the next series being aimed at kids though...that's worrying, just a bit.
No, it means less teen angst. I can, quote honestly, say that anime made for children are a lot better than anime for teens, nowadays.
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chryseis said:
if anything, i think g00 pushed AWAY male fans. except the guys who like traps.


Don't forget ____ like fai, love transvestite male androids who are absolutely worthless to the story.

Also gundam 00 was shit.
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DeltaPlus said:
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if anything, i think g00 pushed AWAY male fans. except the guys who like traps.


Don't forget ____ like fai, love transvestite male androids who are absolutely worthless to the story.

Also gundam 00 was shit.


Troll sighting :3

Ah the KrylonBlue and his pink Unicorns, always lighting up a thread :P

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I third that. GN Particles are intended for the adult audiences lol.


A Clean, unlimited energy source with anti-gravitational and psychic abilities is far more "adult" concept than "Its LOLNUCLEAR thus its powaful and unlimited" of LOLSEED, not to mention that it answers the "why that huge humanoid bulk of metal can own so much" question better. :)
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Fai said:
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I third that. GN Particles are intended for the adult audiences lol.


A Clean, unlimited energy source with anti-gravitational and psychic abilities is far more "adult" concept than "Its LOLNUCLEAR thus its powaful and unlimited" of LOLSEED, not to mention that it answers the "why that huge humanoid bulk of metal can own so much" question better. :)
Gundam was never a real robot show. They shouldn't try to make it one, either. But yeah, I guess the GN Drive thing is a better excuse than Zeta Gundam's LOL SOULS OF DEAD PEOPLE AS ENERGY.
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llxwarbirdxll said:
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Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much.
Kuroda: So we want the producer of the next Gundam series to bring Gundam back to the hands of children. I'm confident that we got Gundam back to the male fans by Gundam 00, but unsure about the kid fans.


New G Gundam....? xD
THIS, PLEASE!


It's been 13 years, Sunrise. I think it's time you delivered what you promised.


can explain pls? what show did that come from?
May 1, 2009 9:34 AM

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can explain pls? what show did that come from?





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May 1, 2009 12:40 PM

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ROFL New G Gundam would be cool.

Well, I think the char designs was too much bait.
May 1, 2009 5:38 PM

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00 is ****ing awesome to me, probably the 1st or 2nd best. Don't know why people diss it, but eh critics what can ya do about em? I wish they would have and adult storyline, but also incredibly amazing fight scenes, well that's what I would want anyways.

Although I can also see how 00 could have drawed in the female audience.


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you'd think that a series about giant robots trying to destroy each other and fighting would be targeted towards a male audience, but i guess not was the case with 00, weird
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Fai said:
A Clean, unlimited energy source with anti-gravitational and psychic abilities is far more "adult" concept than "Its LOLNUCLEAR thus its powaful and unlimited" of LOLSEED, not to mention that it answers the "why that huge humanoid bulk of metal can own so much" question better. :)

Actually it seems to me to be exactly the kind of thing that would come out of the imagination of some sci-fi nerd kid of our time, fed with too much "protect the Earth" ads.
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I'm surprised that Gundam 00 attracted mostly female audience.
They're probably their to hear Setsuna's voice and Meisters :]

Or that Marina made the men go watch other animations >_>

Gundam for Kids/teens, sounds pretty much like so. Seems like Macross went into that direction too?

*Goes back to watch Macross Frontier and Macross Zero....*
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Japan, viewers was adult men.
M1, adult men 20-34 years old.
M2, adult men 35-49 years old.
F2, adult women 35-49 years old.

00 was a total fail with the kids

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llxwarbirdxll said:
Gundam was never a real robot show. They shouldn't try to make it one, either. But yeah, I guess the GN Drive thing is a better excuse than Zeta Gundam's LOL SOULS OF DEAD PEOPLE AS ENERGY.


LOL. Honest question. Is this revisionist history at work? Gundam created the Real Robot genre. Technically the UC series made by Tomino should be the guideline for anyone doing Real Robot, which is actually a genre that has more to do with how the robot itself is used and the tropes used to tell the story than it does with just exactly how realistic the mecha is.

There actually haven't been all that many Super Robot series to be released this decade. Godannar, Aquarion, possibly Gravion...

At best, there's a scale for Real Robot where 1 is the most realistic and 10's not really realistic at all and Gundam's somewhere around an 8. (10 would be Geass.)
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Alexstratz said:
Fai said:
A Clean, unlimited energy source with anti-gravitational and psychic abilities is far more "adult" concept than "Its LOLNUCLEAR thus its powaful and unlimited" of LOLSEED, not to mention that it answers the "why that huge humanoid bulk of metal can own so much" question better. :)

Actually it seems to me to be exactly the kind of thing that would come out of the imagination of some sci-fi nerd kid of our time, fed with too much "protect the Earth" ads.


ye i'm 19 still in the group marked as a teen and get the whole idea very well and i want to see more much more animes like this one but ... there are too many animes with childish stuff etc.. which are made more like to waste ur free time .. this is serious anime here and there are very few animes like these~ which i can call masterpieces that made me really really excited .. so i just cant imagine how could they get the idea to turn such a great story into some ordinary anime..
and i'm sure that statistics are wrong :D the main characters are all cool males so there are alot of fangirls i know it in japan it may have been like that % during the air time but afterwards and in global the pic is different :)
such animes deserve to be rewatched once or even more times so i'm going to do it soon~~~~

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I liked the Gundam 00 better, the kids can go watch something else!
I wanted some thought in my anime, not just battles.


Fuck yeah.


<<agrees with that ^^
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UC has always been adult oriented where as AU is defiantly catered to the rabid shonen fanboy. UC is more about politics, techno babble and racism. while AU is Flashy pretty gundams, Retarded power levels and plot armor, ambiguous male leads and just general DUHHHHHH GUNDAM MAKE STUFF GO BOOM!
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
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Loveless creator having the character design = alot of female fans.
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While 00 (Season 1 anyway just started Season 2) is definitely more on the political side of things like Gundam Wing before it I wouldn't call it mature. Something like Ergo Proxy or Bebop is more adult oriented. This show is aimed at a audience that have at least a decent interest in intro politics and philosophy it's not as grim and adult as the producers are making it sound.

For starters the character designs reek of typical otaku crap. And there was some plot elements that just wouldn't work in a script meant to cater to a crowd expecting something a bit more realisitc.
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Jigero said:
UC has always been adult oriented where as AU is defiantly catered to the rabid shonen fanboy. UC is more about politics, techno babble and racism. while AU is Flashy pretty gundams, Retarded power levels and plot armor, ambiguous male leads and just general DUHHHHHH GUNDAM MAKE STUFF GO BOOM!


So THAT'S what they call it in the AU. Plot armor. Back in my day when it was UC stuff, it was called a NewType.

Also...its a mecha series. When are they NOT about "giant robot make stuff go BOOM!"?

Also, LOL Gundam Wing = political. 00 S2 must've been Geass R2 level stupid, 'cause when I bailed it could best be described as, "Wing, without being stupid".
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Saks said:
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Mizushima: I guess the story was oriented to the adult audiences too much.
Kuroda: So we want the producer of the next Gundam series to bring Gundam back to the hands of children. I'm confident that we got Gundam back to the male fans by Gundam 00, but unsure about the kid fans.


New G Gundam....? xD


I fucking hope so.
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PLEASE GIVE US A NEW G GUNDAM

unless it doesn't include "THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED"
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Really? I didn't realize adult audiences wanted a story filled with pseudo-real world politics and a throwaway cast of characters whose only draw is their supposed "sex appeal" that quickly devolves from having at least a semi-decent amount of moral ambiguity to yet another good vs. evil show with some piss poor excuses for antagonists and tackles almost none of the issues about war it brings up in a fashion even bordering satisfactory.

Seriously, I expected a lot better from the guy who directed Dai Guard...


agreed. I didn't even watch season 2, but season one was just...not that great IMO. And I am a girl.

Sorry gundam 00, but "pretty men shooting each other" isn't enough to entertain me for more than 3 or 4 episodes. By episode 5 or so I need an interesting plot to go along with it, and gundam 00 just didn't deliver that, sadly. It was like "look! an angst-ridden princess! some students! some bridge bunnies! a beach day! a pretty rich lady! a mysterious old man! have we covered every trend yet?? yes?? oh, right, moral ambiguity, can't forget that...well we'll just give one of them a split personality! that should satisfy them!"

agh....
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With all those fanservice, so I thought g00 is for women. tieria and his gay gundam (ndaleeh), the hermaphrodite innovators, gundam obsessed bushido graham...

At least characters were MALE this time, instead of SEEDFAIL where you could question anyone's sex any moment...(gay miniskirts *shiver*)

wooo~ Dreamland T_T I really should watch SEED! Though I hated kira at first sight. I will give SEED a chance and endure seeing him. Athrun is really very pretty, I am now really very tempted.

Sorry gundam 00, but "pretty men shooting each other" isn't enough to entertain me for more than 3 or 4 episodes. By episode 5 or so I

yay~ I love watching pretty men. damn If I were to watch obviously I prefer good looking people. I was sooo happy while I was watching. The producers sure knows what yaoi fangirls love. and I love TRAPS. Good job sunrise! ♥

oh tieria... you gey meister. You made g00 an entertaining eyefeast. TuT
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you guys have no clue what gundam is?

I trust you forever. as manly as it gets. we need g gundam now!
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Maybe it was Marina and all that pink hair and pink mecha that drove away the male fans xD
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I would have to say, coming from someone who hasn't seen a Gundam since the original Gundam Wing and being a female that the seasons were very different.

I wouldn't be surprised if the first season appealed more of males and the second season appealed more to females. My thoughts, the second season up to the point I am watching, has more cheesy drama with relationships. It also makes the Gundam's look very vulnerable.

Personally I choose Gundam 00 because I couldn't stand Tieria's character design with the pink cardigan. I ended up loving to series. Personally I could accept Tieria as a male until the crossdressing episode.

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I like Gundam 00 as it is, it's got a good fanbase for both men and women, Gundam doesn't need any more kid friendly versions, it needs to be for the Seinen and/or Josei fanbase which most fans fall into since the average Gundam fan in Japan is well over 30 and here in the US is around their late teens to late 20's.


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SageShinigami said:
Jigero said:
UC has always been adult oriented where as AU is defiantly catered to the rabid shonen fanboy. UC is more about politics, techno babble and racism. while AU is Flashy pretty gundams, Retarded power levels and plot armor, ambiguous male leads and just general DUHHHHHH GUNDAM MAKE STUFF GO BOOM!


So THAT'S what they call it in the AU. Plot armor. Back in my day when it was UC stuff, it was called a NewType.

Also...its a mecha series. When are they NOT about "giant robot make stuff go BOOM!"?

Also, LOL Gundam Wing = political. 00 S2 must've been Geass R2 level stupid, 'cause when I bailed it could best be described as, "Wing, without being stupid".


heh funny because 90% of the New types in UC gundams are either dead, MIA or a cripple and tell me how many AU series basically killed off it's entire cast?

and Gundam Wing Politics where about grade school level.

It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
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Jigero said:
SageShinigami said:
Jigero said:
UC has always been adult oriented where as AU is defiantly catered to the rabid shonen fanboy. UC is more about politics, techno babble and racism. while AU is Flashy pretty gundams, Retarded power levels and plot armor, ambiguous male leads and just general DUHHHHHH GUNDAM MAKE STUFF GO BOOM!


So THAT'S what they call it in the AU. Plot armor. Back in my day when it was UC stuff, it was called a NewType.

Also...its a mecha series. When are they NOT about "giant robot make stuff go BOOM!"?

Also, LOL Gundam Wing = political. 00 S2 must've been Geass R2 level stupid, 'cause when I bailed it could best be described as, "Wing, without being stupid".


heh funny because 90% of the New types in UC gundams are either dead, MIA or a cripple and tell me how many AU series basically killed off it's entire cast?

and Gundam Wing Politics where about grade school level.



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