Your Tsundere Rating
Darknemo2000 said: I really don't think Hitagi puts up that barrier on purpose. In fact she's pretty upfront about what she wants, she just delivers herself in a very cool manner. Watch her as she goes through the series and you will see she's very consistent and her way of expressing herself never wavers, nor does she hides her feelings. She just doesn't fall into one of this general categories.A 4. Thoose who say she is kuudere get it wrong. Kuuderes act cool/cold by their nature (like Yue or Yuki) but the cold shoulder tactics is a tsundere tactics as long as it is done on purpose - Hitagi does it on purpose to drive others away meaning she is not a kuudere at all just a tsundere using a cold shoulder tactics the most in order to drive others away or to tease Araragi-san. The only moments she shows changes of expression she even says she's putting an act. Seriously, the only reason people even have the idea that she may be a tsundere is because Oshino says so. But as I say, Tsunderes hide her feelings on purpose and Hitagi doesn't. She is very upfront about it in most of the episodes. |
Leon-GunNov 24, 2010 2:50 PM
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cyruz said: <3 Tsundere-chan is not a tsundere. this my answer she is not Tsundere even Tsu ts t ... |
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| she is not Tsundere even Tsu ts t ... |
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| She is a 1 for me. Yes, at the beggining she won't get anyone get close to her (even before meeting the male lead), she even staples his face when she finds out he is asking some questions about her. But that's because she was almost raped. Before that, she used to be very sociable (as Kanbaru points out during her flashback). Besides, starting from chapter 2 to the end she is all dere form chapter 2, halfway thropugh the show it is implied that she is even opening up to her classmates. So, 1 episode of slight "tsunness" originally caused by a traumatic experience VS over 10 episodes of honest "dereness" with a "dere" past. I think it wouldn't be reasonable to call her a tsundere. |
| Picked 4. Wouldn't go as far as saying 5 but she is DEFINITLY a tsundere, like it or not. |
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| IMO she is not a tsundere, even if she is called "Tsundere-chan" by Oshino. I think she is more like a yandere, i still love her tho. |
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| she seems pretty honest to me. vote 2 |
| 2. She's not that Tsun. I will say she has more Yan than Tsun. |
| Ok so after seeing so many comments about her not being a tsundere, i'll just copy paste all the points i made earlier. There were 3 scenes where hitagi was definitly undoubtedly the tsundere type. 1st one was in ep3 where she admits being a crazy virgin (after going on and on about araragi's "innocence" and impliying that she's a real mature woman. 2nd one was in ep12 where she tells araragi that she's still scared of going all the way with him because of her nearly-raped experience but still would like to kiss. 3rd one was ep3-4 where she hides the fact that she doesn't see mayoi out of fear of being "abnormal" again. I think some of you (not all of you)... some of you don't see her a tsundere because there is no blushing of facial expression from her. If there were said blushing and expressions during those scenes, all of you won't be calling her a tsundere right now. Could you deny that in any other manga or with any other official tsundere character, those 3 scenes wouldn't have need any type of script or setting-change? HELL NO! Only change would be a more emotional tone of voice, blushing and/or facial expressions. And why would the author of bakemonogatari would create a non-tsundere character, but have that character + 2 others (Oshino and Mayoi) call her a tsundere. SHE'S A TSUNDERE! GET OVER IT! I dare anyone and everyone to deny any of those points. |
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Ecchi_Kooks said: Ok so after seeing so many comments about her not being a tsundere, i'll just copy paste all the points i made earlier. There were 3 scenes where hitagi was definitly undoubtedly the tsundere type. 1st one was in ep3 where she admits being a crazy virgin (after going on and on about araragi's "innocence" and impliying that she's a real mature woman. 2nd one was in ep12 where she tells araragi that she's still scared of going all the way with him because of her nearly-raped experience but still would like to kiss. 3rd one was ep3-4 where she hides the fact that she doesn't see mayoi out of fear of being "abnormal" again. I think some of you (not all of you)... some of you don't see her a tsundere because there is no blushing of facial expression from her. If there were said blushing and expressions during those scenes, all of you won't be calling her a tsundere right now. Could you deny that in any other manga or with any other official tsundere character, those 3 scenes wouldn't have need any type of script or setting-change? HELL NO! Only change would be a more emotional tone of voice, blushing and/or facial expressions. And why would the author of bakemonogatari would create a non-tsundere character, but have that character + 2 others (Oshino and Mayoi) call her a tsundere. SHE'S A TSUNDERE! GET OVER IT! I dare anyone and everyone to deny any of those points. I just lol... your 3 points are rubbish... than I'll give you my points of view for Senjou is not Tsundere. 1. she confess her love without being shy or difficult to be honest with herself (from this she's more to Kuudere than Tsundere). 2.she easily said what in her mind to Araragi (remember in Senjou's car scene), and again not difficult to be honest with herself 3.sometime, she made Araragi blushing with her daring flirt. if Senjou tsundere, she should blushing instead making Araragi blushing. (most important factors for being tsundere is BLUSHING and NOT HONEST WITH YOURSELF) if you can speak Japanese and watch animea lot, you should familiar with this words. SUNAO JANAINA!, it means "Not honest". and mostly those words used to tease a tsundere chara... |
IZUMI64Oct 22, 2011 1:54 PM
| ... What the hell? Ecchi_Kooks said: 1st one was in ep3 where she admits being a crazy virgin (after going on and on about araragi's "innocence" and impliying that she's a real mature woman. Impliying she's a real mature woman when she's not, means not being honest. Only difference is that she uses trashtalk instead of stuttering after being caught off guard. Ecchi_kooks said: 2nd one was in ep12 where she tells araragi that she's still scared of going all the way with him because of her nearly-raped experience but still would like to kiss. IZUMI64 said: she easily said what in her mind to Araragi (remember in Senjou's car scene) True she had no problem dirty talking, but the fact that she told him that she''s scared to go all the way and used 3 tries to properly "announce" the kiss to come... means that she was being all talk and in fact not honest with herself. Now she may be willing and open to such dirty talk, but to do it right here right now... of course not. ecchi said: 3rd one was ep3-4 where she hides the fact that she doesn't see mayoi out of fear of being "abnormal" again. HIDING SOMETHING MEANS NOT BEING HONEST! In my 3points she wasn't being honest and created her own image of herself for others to see. So rubbish my ass. izumi said: most important factors for being tsundere is BLUSHING and NOT HONEST WITH YOURSELF And now that i think about it... saying that blushing is a trait for tsundere, is nonsense. Blushing is a trait to all manga girls! Yandere, tsundere, lolis, kuuderes, they all blush, what make manga girls so cute is the blush. In real life girls dont blush that much... i cant even recall when's the last time i've seen a real girl blush wtf. Blushing is a manga girl trait, not tsundere trait. So in your eyes, you want all tsundere to be alike? If i girl doesnt resemble shana, louise, taiga, then she's not a tsundere? I mean just those 3, the only difference is their clothes and looks, other than that, those 3 are basically a simple copy paste... how original >_>' Why cant a tsundere evolve and instead of all being stuttering and getting caught off guard, she's the one on the offensive and trashtalks? TRASHTALK IS HOT AND PROOF OF THAT COMBATIVE TSUNDERE PERSONALITY. Hitagi was not honest with herself, she withdrew from people, drove away those who came close such as subaru, threw away her real emotions about the whole ordeal with her mother and the near-rape, carried the burden of that crab curse, and kept a straight face all along when she obviously wasn't satisfied. Then araragi came and "broke" everything, just like all the guys who come along and win the tsundere over. Wasn't there that burst of emotions when that crab got rid off and while thanking araragi? After being "saved" by araragi, she went from the girl who made herself into an outcast, to the girl glued to araragi... and while being glued, she kept on talking down to him, even though she actually fell for him and every once in a while admits liking/loving him... isnt that tsundere? Coz i can name a whole bunch of tsundere talking down on her love. Plus, if we quote the 2 definitions of a tsundere in the club's front page, she's a definite, pure, 100% tsundere. Yes you are absolutly right about confessing her love and her dirty talk, i'll give you that. But saying that she's honest with herself and is nothing like a tsundere is a heeeeell no! That what makes her an epic tsundere and not another copy paste. She's the tsundere that can't be caught off guard (maybe once every month :P), she's the trashtalk tsundere queen, she's the tsundere with the balls to confess straight up... SHE'S A TSUNDERE! GET OVER IT! Lol all you want |
Kayde12Oct 23, 2011 4:32 AM
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| ^You just over thinking. if you want think her as Tsundere, that's your right. |
| What a convenient counter-argument |
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| no point to continue. Senjou is one of my fav chara. actually I like her because her coolness and her straight-minded. So, for me she's more to Kuudere than Tsundere |
| Well i cant say that i dont see any kuudere in her... Tsu..kuu..dere? Maybe... |
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| 3/5, kinda tsundere. |
| She's both yandere, tsundere and more. She has traits from different categories while not directly fitting any of them. However she has dialogue that breaks the illusion and reduces "naturalness" of her character thanks to SHAFT. voted 2 (yantsun with a hint of gire; not helped by the fact that the love interest doesn't die when killed) She also gives you hints that you better take and makes offers you can't really refuse. |
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| I can see how people may consider her a kuudere (even tho i think she's a real tsundere), but calling her a yandere is something i really cant comprehend. We talking about yandere such as gasai yuno or the higurashi girls right? The one and only psycho moment she had was when she stapled Araragi's mouth... she's everything BUT yandere. |
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Ecchi_Kooks said: I can see how people may consider her a kuudere (even tho i think she's a real tsundere), but calling her a yandere is something i really cant comprehend. We talking about yandere such as gasai yuno or the higurashi girls right? The one and only psycho moment she had was when she stapled Araragi's mouth... she's everything BUT yandere. I probably used the wrong term. But I think I initially got that impression when she displays crazy characteristics. i.e. stapling his mouth, stabbing his eye with a pencil, and implied physical abuse. She does display yandere characteristics of being obsessive and she does result in physical violence(a bit graphic type of violence. Not the type tsunderes usually inflict) due to jealousy. I think she's a weird mix of everything. "she's everything BUT yandere", is something I'd have to disagree with. |
| Hmm... i can see your point, but i cant really accept it. Because i see all those actions from her as bluff. Because if you think about it, she actually attack Araragi only once in the whole show (with the stapple at the very begining of the show). After that, the only kind of abuse she threw at araragi was verbal abuse. And even if Araragi is kinda immortal, i doubt she'll stab the eye of the guy she loves... if she actually had done it, i wouldnt be able to deny that she had any yandere charactristics :P And if you think about it, those 3 things that ive mentioned (bluff, verbal abuse, close to eye stabbing) can be considered tsundere characteristics: - Tsunderes usually spout things they dont mean and bluffing is KINDA close to that. - Verbal abuse is surely a tsundere signature move. - And about the eye-stabbing scene, how did araragi get out of it? Screaming that he's sorry and that she's the only woman for him. Now sure there wasnt the usual blushing and stuttering, but she did hesitate for a little while before answering "you say some rather nice things" (or something very close to that). It wasnt in the usual cliched way but she DEFINITLY got caught off guard there. I do see a bit of truth in "a weird mix of everything", but because of what i've just mentioned (and other stuff ive mentioned in previous comments), she's more tsundere than anything else. Maybe 60% tsundere and 40% other stuff... more or less. |
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'cause she starts to attract to Araragi after Omoshikami left her, isn't it? Well she felt as if it was all thanks to araragi that omoshikami left her, so that had something to do with her feelings for him.I dont remember when exactly, but there was this one scene where she does say that one of things that attracted her to araragi was that kindness of his. That kindness that made him come back to help her, even after she stapled his mouth. (and than adds that he would actually save anyone and it wasnt just because it was her... but the fact that he actually came back and got oshino to get rid of that crab, was what won her over) |
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| I think Senjougahara can not be called a tsundere, even though she likes to play in this style. If person is a tsundere, she is tsundere, not kuudere or yandere or anything else... As we can not say she is a 100% tsundere, she is not a tsundere ^__^ Blushing has nothing to do with tsunderes it is true.. And she is quite straight forward girl as I think. She said Araragi that she loves him quite early, I'd say the next day after she met him (!). All the wordplay of her is just a game she loves very much. And it is not a tsundere game. She tries to be nice but is unable to because feelings overwhelms her. It is no accident in dialogue in the park we often hear increased heartbeat of her. She was nervous really because she wanted Araragi to accept her without straight words "A love you". For people it is often hard to tell words like this... She was cheerful young girl before the story with her mother, sounds not like tsundere huh? Another point - she posesses traits of yandere clearly - sometimes she looks like maniac. Not all the time like Yuno Gassai mentioned here, just sometimes... Who knows what could have happened if Araragi wouldn't cry when pensil was near his eye... I doubt she could be called a kuudere. She is reasonable and calm most of the time, it is true. But she is not passive. Actually Senjougahara is quite dominating character. Interesting point is we really rarely can see dere-dere side of hers. I guess she can not be called smth-dere hardly. Dere is not her trait. XD After all Sejougahara is quite interesting character. ^__^ With submissive and stable Araragi they make a great couple =) |
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| 3/5 She sometimes act like a tsundere |
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| I don't think she display's the tsundere type too much... |
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| XTREME tsundere. She ain't no average tsundere. |
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| She is a tsundere but since tsundere today are usually so generic or so obvious people are led to believe that a tsundere acts and says stuff like "I'm not (insert verb here) for you or anything." Gahara has the tsuntsun and the deredere side, although she heavily leans toward the tsuntsun side. She is somewhat tsundere but the way she presents it is in a different manner than usual. |
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| she's not a real tsundere but i still think she's great! |
| killer stationery + rest of character = Quite a tsundere in first ep (stapler attack) but not a lot in the rest of the series, 2/5 |
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| She is special tsundere. |
| Tundra (2/5) |
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ataraxial said: Tundra (2/5) |
| Don't think so... Then I will go with 2/5 as two users above me ; ). |
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| She could be a tsundere or a borderline sadist lol |
| she is too honest with herself most of the time to be a proper tsundere, nut at times she does pretend to be XD 3/5 |
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| she is kuudere, case closed |
suntears said: she is kuudere, case closed Agreed |
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| shes not a kuudere at all lol more like yandere.. or yangire kuuderes are usually emotionless she doesnt appear to be so and she doesnt open up later on so I dont see hwo any of you can see her as kuudere lol :P well 1/5 for me |
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