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May 22, 2014 4:43 AM
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dankickyou said:
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I'm for equality, therefore I'm a feminist.


Saying that feminism is about equality is meaningless. Its a huge movement with giant differences in beliefs. The problem with feminism is that it implies that we should be focusing on women's issues.


Thats because dun dun dun feminism is focused on equality for women and women's issues. :/ You dont hate a brain surgeon because he doesn't focus on lung cancer treatments. You dont hate a charity volunteer in Africa for not volunteering in Asia.
being 'for equality' still doesn't automatically make one a feminist. it could possibly mean you are an egalitarian, though.
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Monad said:

A brain surgeon doesn't claim that will make your lungs healthy though does he and the Africa volunteer doesn't claim he solves problem in Asia. Feminist claim they are the movement of equality though instead "women rights" group(which they hardly are since they oppress women too).

http://i.imgur.com/KUolWma.png Though, I'm sure you'll pull some crazy ladies saying or doing crazy things to stamp an entire movement as EVUL. Truly, you have been laid low by the matriarchy.

Heredity said:
being 'for equality' still doesn't automatically make one a feminist. it could possibly mean you are an egalitarian, though.

Of course. I'm just pointing out some mistakes that people like to make or baseless insults people like to throw around.
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Monad said:
A brain surgeon doesn't claim that will make your lungs healthy though does he and the Africa volunteer doesn't claim he solves problem in Asia. Feminist claim they are the movement of equality though instead "women rights" group(which they hardly are since they oppress women too).
A brain surgeon can rightly claim to be improving your overall health and an African volunteer can rightly claim to be working towards global equality.

Those statements are more analogous to how I interpret feminism—the key being that feminism is a necessary but insufficient condition for equality, and does not exclude one from also pursuing men's issues, or anything else. I suppose that you would argue: "But, most feminists don't agree with that." Maybe you're right, maybe you aren't. At this point we need evidence.
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May 22, 2014 10:31 AM

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Maybe technically I am a feminist. But it is not a label I want to associate myself with.

Technically I'm also an MRA I guess. But I wouldn't want to be called that either.

I just believe human beings should stop being pieces of shit. That's really all..
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Women won't be equal in the U.S. until they are required by law to sign up for the selective service.


that is a good example of how women are held to be less useful when there's no reason women can't be effective soldiers...
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Red_Keys said:
I just believe human beings should stop being pieces of shit.
Absurdity among absurdities!
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
May 22, 2014 10:36 AM

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Post-Josh said:
Red_Keys said:
I just believe human beings should stop being pieces of shit.
Absurdity among absurdities!


You guys should stop discriminating against pieces of shit. Weve got feelings too. Like pleasure, pleasure from treating others like shit.
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No, I am not. Feminism is a flawed concept of gaining equality from one a one side point of view only. You can never have equality with a female (or male) bias. I am for equal values of genders and acceptance of differences whether imagined or not.

If I'm not mistaken that one sided view is right as woman are actually oppressed in various ways (it's calmed down a lot; but still). No shit (your second sentence): that's like saying you can't have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the jelly! And your last sentence is that not exactly what feminist strive for?
They are oppressed in certain countries and many cultures but its not as much as feminists make it out to be. Not everything is the patriarchy. There are some women choose to fit in roles that feminists dont think women should be in. If they are telling other women how to think and feel then thats feminists oppressing women instead of the so called patriarchy (which is extremely loosely defined how people use this word). Giving women affirmative action is not equal its insulting and saying that women are too weak to go against men and who started affirmative action? Feminists. Feminism is completely disorganized and ill aimed these days. Think of it this way. How can you obtain a balanced pillar if you are pushing only on one side? It will eventually reach equal but it is far too easy to tip it over the other side since with enough force its going to cave in. Feminism even by name alone is biased. Even though there are feminists who want actual equality the way they do it for certain things is just out of touch. Feminism only makes sense for things like abortion rights and birth control pill supply (since there are no working ones for men yet) or stuff that goes down in third world countries . Do men get special treatment in legal punishment like women get? Hell no they serve more time almost always. You cant just redefine feminism and pretend like its perfect. Feminism was about gaining the same rights as men but they already mostly have all the same legal rights as men in the west. Being treated differently is a different subject as different isnt always opressive and it goes both ways.
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Sep 10, 2014 6:52 AM

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[size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS
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Feminism in anime, hilarious, I can't think of anything more retarded.

Broken poll though, to suggest that 1 in 3 MAL users is a feminist is absurd.

Beta white knights and legbeards are basically just to drawn this thread, unlike the average user, resulting in such a figure.
Sep 10, 2014 8:26 AM

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As long as you don't say all men are pervert pigs and stuff it's ok.
Sep 10, 2014 9:09 AM

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laldonkaments said:
Today's feminist movement mainly derailed into provocation and showmanship (Anita Sarkeesian, FEMEN, ...)


Not to mention the middle ground no longer exist and it has a "my way or the highway" mentality.


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Hoppy said:
laldonkaments said:
Today's feminist movement mainly derailed into provocation and showmanship (Anita Sarkeesian, FEMEN, ...)


Not to mention the middle ground no longer exist and it has a "my way or the highway" mentality.


You can thank tumblr for breeding that kind of mentality. It's always been there, but the internet has made it contagious.
Sep 10, 2014 11:56 AM

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Modern feminism can be equated to the KKK. A bunch of hypocritical supremacists.
Sep 10, 2014 12:23 PM

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No, it's disgusting.
Sep 10, 2014 12:29 PM

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DerpHole said:

Can we please have a lot more reasons for why stuff promotes rape culture?

I didn't laugh this hard in ages.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
DerpHole said:

Can we please have a lot more reasons for why stuff promotes rape culture?

I didn't laugh this hard in ages.


Everything promotes rape culture. Try out http://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrinaction if you've never been there.
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womans deserved better life.
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Sep 10, 2014 4:38 PM

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NebulaC3I said:
Modern feminism can be equated to the KKK. A bunch of hypocritical supremacists.


that is so true lol. I find that todays' feminists just think that all men should die and be castrated for having a penis. but i'm sure that there are some who are probably decent but the ones which I've seen are slightly deranged if not mentally unstable.

but I was once called a feminist on here because I felt that both sexes should be treated equally and with respect....i know, call me weird.

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Yes to equal rights for women.

No to "feminism", or as I like to call it, "communism".
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ok true, in hindsight I agree with most of what you said...except the last line about a BA although it did make me, LAUGH OUT LOUD aka LOL.

You sir get my vote!

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womans deserved better life.
Yeah in shithole third world countries, in western countries though they already have far better lives than men.
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I like women.

Cute women.

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If this was back in the 50's, then yeah, I'd be a feminist. Feminism now, however, (in first world countries at least) is completely useless. Women can vote, own property, get the same jobs as males... What the hell else do they want? Women are in no way significantly restricted in society.
If we're talking about countries in India/China, then yeah, sure, I'm a feminist. Those countries need feminism.
But people who live in the Western World and think that they're restricted as a female is god damn stupid. All those feminists do is bitch at men who make sandwich jokes/claim that breasts are not sexual and women should be allowed to walk around topless/throwing fits because apparently video games are sexist.

TL;DR: No.
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How bout fuck no. The movement was originally for women by women. Because they were oppressed in similar manners to blacks such as the rights to vote and get certain jobs. Now we're in a time where we have people like Anita Sarkeesian who has absolutely zero ability to properly research anything involving the male gender. And they take advantage of peoples brainwashing into worshiping the pussy. The average man is the person who got her tens of thousands of dollars just so she can pretend to play games and review them about "male" dominance in video games despite the fact that no one has the time to play ALL video games and in detail review the portrayals of the men and women in them.

We have it now where a man and a woman apply for the same job. The woman is probably 80% if not 100% bound ot get the job over the equally qualified man.

I say fuck Feminism. There's already a term for equality. Egalitarianism. So no. I'm not a god damn feminist. Because the current publicized movement is run by ignorant cunty twats who want superiority and think that female superiority and master status over males equates to equality of a utopia.

Those are the kinds of people who, if we still had hooded executioners, and they were about to be beheaded, I'd salute the executioner. And I'd literally wipe the blade clean and kiss it.

Fuck Female rights. Fuck men's right. Hail HUMAN RIGHTS. GITGUD.
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The penis-cutting "feminists" are a vocal minority, and get more attention because it's easier to call them out and represent them as the rest of the feminist population.
If you think they're a vocal "minority", then ask yourself why these Patriarch feminists control the curriculum for any gender studies course in liberal arts colleges, and why they are being employed across all major newspapers as paid contributors to the editorial section. These feminists get less backlash than terrorism in a mosque.
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How bout fuck no. The movement was originally for women by women. Because they were oppressed in similar manners to blacks such as the rights to vote and get certain jobs. Now we're in a time where we have people like Anita Sarkeesian who has absolutely zero ability to properly research anything involving the male gender. And they take advantage of peoples brainwashing into worshiping the pussy. The average man is the person who got her tens of thousands of dollars just so she can pretend to play games and review them about "male" dominance in video games despite the fact that no one has the time to play ALL video games and in detail review the portrayals of the men and women in them.

We have it now where a man and a woman apply for the same job. The woman is probably 80% if not 100% bound ot get the job over the equally qualified man.

I say fuck Feminism. There's already a term for equality. Egalitarianism. So no. I'm not a god damn feminist. Because the current publicized movement is run by ignorant cunty twats who want superiority and think that female superiority and master status over males equates to equality of a utopia.

Those are the kinds of people who, if we still had hooded executioners, and they were about to be beheaded, I'd salute the executioner. And I'd literally wipe the blade clean and kiss it.

Fuck Female rights. Fuck men's right. Hail HUMAN RIGHTS. GITGUD.


Calm the fuck down.
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katsucats said:
PerfectScore said:
The penis-cutting "feminists" are a vocal minority, and get more attention because it's easier to call them out and represent them as the rest of the feminist population.
If you think they're a vocal "minority", then ask yourself why these Patriarch feminists control the curriculum for any gender studies course in liberal arts colleges, and why they are being employed across all major newspapers as paid contributors to the editorial section. These feminists get less backlash than terrorism in a mosque.


stop over-exaggerating, nothing like that

and yes i support social equality OP
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katsucats said:
PerfectScore said:
The penis-cutting "feminists" are a vocal minority, and get more attention because it's easier to call them out and represent them as the rest of the feminist population.
If you think they're a vocal "minority", then ask yourself why these Patriarch feminists control the curriculum for any gender studies course in liberal arts colleges, and why they are being employed across all major newspapers as paid contributors to the editorial section. These feminists get less backlash than terrorism in a mosque.


^ this.

Katsucats you should post more. You are one of the few rational people left.
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katsucats said:
If you think they're a vocal "minority", then ask yourself why these Patriarch feminists control the curriculum for any gender studies course in liberal arts colleges, and why they are being employed across all major newspapers as paid contributors to the editorial section. These feminists get less backlash than terrorism in a mosque.


^ this.

Katsucats you should post more. You are one of the few rational people left.


That hurts me man.

But I like being irrational, I'm ironic about it so nothing wrong about what I do anyways.
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katsucats said:
If you think they're a vocal "minority", then ask yourself why these Patriarch feminists control the curriculum for any gender studies course in liberal arts colleges, and why they are being employed across all major newspapers as paid contributors to the editorial section. These feminists get less backlash than terrorism in a mosque.
stop over-exaggerating, nothing like that

and yes i support social equality OP
Exaggerating? Read for yourself.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=gender+studies+syllabus

Here's an image San Diego State shamefully hosts in their 101 Women's Identity course:


What is the course about? Systematic oppression against women. Call of Duty. Hmm...
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PoeticJustice said:


^ this.

Katsucats you should post more. You are one of the few rational people left.


That hurts me man.

But I like being irrational, I'm ironic about it so nothing wrong about what I do anyways.


Look on my page, I give you a shout out for being a good poster.

I see, When in rome as they say.
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PoeticJustice said:
Shitposta said:


That hurts me man.

But I like being irrational, I'm ironic about it so nothing wrong about what I do anyways.


Look on my page, I give you a shout out for being a good poster.

I see, When in rome as they say.


Holy gotta see this.
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This thread is like the Frankenstein of threads, seriously though, how many times are you going to necro this poor thread . . .

OT: No. I am not a feminist as one would be defined, in order to actually have an opinion on gender issues in America I would have to go do some research on what is really going on. Most of what you hear on the media is just statistics that were done improperly to prove one thing or another. I don't have the time (nor care enough) to parse through and find out things like what the "true wage gap" is, because I do know that the calculation for it is pretty biased. But all and all, who cares? Feminists were a good thing, thanks to them girls aren't deathly afraid to have sex before marriage . . . I mean, I for one, like that.
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that's funny i've a good amount of experience with liberal/feminist professors and i never met one that wanted to cut my penis. some of you guys are too defensive.
Way to be pedantically literal. You win.
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KaceSpace said:
stop over-exaggerating, nothing like that

and yes i support social equality OP
Exaggerating? Read for yourself.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=gender+studies+syllabus

Here's an image San Diego State shamefully hosts in their 101 Women's Identity course:


What is the course about? Systematic oppression against women. Call of Duty. Hmm...


shoving studies down people's throats doesn't mean you're correct
at the end of the day, feminists want social equality, nothing wrong with that, but there are always people who seem to think equality equals violence
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katsucats said:
KaceSpace said:
stop over-exaggerating, nothing like that

and yes i support social equality OP
Exaggerating? Read for yourself.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=gender+studies+syllabus

Here's an image San Diego State shamefully hosts in their 101 Women's Identity course:


What is the course about? Systematic oppression against women. Call of Duty. Hmm...
Gender Studies . . . If it makes you feel any better these types of courses are ridiculed by just about any Social Psychologist.
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Shitposta said:
PoeticJustice said:


Look on my page, I give you a shout out for being a good poster.

I see, When in rome as they say.


Holy gotta see this.


I have seen it.

A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!"


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I just want to ask what is real feminism? Whenever I see someone posting about feminism, there are some people saying "It's not real feminism."
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Inferno_Cop said:
I just want to ask what is real feminism? Whenever I see someone posting about feminism, there are some people saying "It's not real feminism."


A figment of your imagination is what real feminism is because almost all forms are someway or another rejected by large masses of whoever dictates what it is.

Case in point, there is no such thing. All subjective.
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-shotz said:
katsucats said:
Way to be pedantically literal. You win.
wasn't being padantically literal, i was only referencing the metaphor.
You (or at least people) often see videos of mythical "normal" feminists who only care about equal rights that, when pushed ever so slightly, are made to insensitively dismiss notions of men's rights while propping up the Patriarchy straw man. Certainly, I've never cared to debate a feminist in real life, and the ones that openly admit to the label often have an eye of disdain that make me not want to approach. It isn't that all self-professed feminists are rabid activists that spout man-hating words all the time, but that even though they claim feminism to be a neutral, doctrine-less movement of various opinions, they all -- all -- follow a doctrine fashioned off Marxist inequality. I have never seen a feminist, in real life, online, or in media, reject Patriarch theory. Scratch that. I have read of one editorial of a feminist decrying patriarchy, and as far as I know she was shot down and burned within her movement.
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KaceSpace said:
katsucats said:
Exaggerating? Read for yourself.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=gender+studies+syllabus

Here's an image San Diego State shamefully hosts in their 101 Women's Identity course:


What is the course about? Systematic oppression against women. Call of Duty. Hmm...


shoving studies down people's throats doesn't mean you're correct
at the end of the day, feminists want social equality, nothing wrong with that, but there are always people who seem to think equality equals violence
When you call evidence as "shoving studies down people's throats", we see how pointless it is to reason with such a self-entitled "feminist" that you claim to be. You're like a caricature cutout of the feminist you're trying to deny existence of. Tell that to yourself next time your cite your NISVS rape study.
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By definition, sure, but I refuse to associate myself with that label. That label has become damaged by extremists, people who blame men for a lot of problems, and people who spew the same lies over and over again. I prefer the egalitarian label.
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It's the same boat as "racism" has become in society. A black man beats a white man and no one bats an eye. White man beats a black man, it's a hate crime. Much like gender equality leans mostly when talking about females being on equal level to males. When in realty all these "equalities" have already been dealt with as much as they can be. What people are into now is when they need to play the victim and blame bad luck on stupid things like "equality".

There are assholes in society. Racists and sexists. Nothing you say will change that. But society isn't "oppressing" you anymore. Get over yourself, and better yourself. That job you didn't get wasn't because you were a woman, it was because you didn't meet the requirements. Stop whining. Start making something of yourself.


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

People are so sensitive gah. I just laugh at sexists and racists rather than get angry at them.
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cause said:
It's the same boat as "racism" has become in society. A black man beats a white man and no one bats an eye. White man beats a black man, it's a hate crime. Much like gender equality leans mostly when talking about females being on equal level to males. When in realty all these "equalities" have already been dealt with as much as they can be. What people are into now is when they need to play the victim and blame bad luck on stupid things like "equality".

There are assholes in society. Racists and sexists. Nothing you say will change that. But society isn't "oppressing" you anymore. Get over yourself, and better yourself. That job you didn't get wasn't because you were a woman, it was because you didn't meet the requirements. Stop whining. Start making something of yourself.


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KaceSpace said:


shoving studies down people's throats doesn't mean you're correct
at the end of the day, feminists want social equality, nothing wrong with that, but there are always people who seem to think equality equals violence
When you call evidence as "shoving studies down people's throats", we see how pointless it is to reason with such a self-entitled "feminist" that you claim to be. You're like a caricature cutout of the feminist you're trying to deny existence of. Tell that to yourself next time your cite your NISVS rape study.


i never read the nisvs study so you're wrong once again, and you should feel bad for being wrong.

other than that, what you linked is still minority, not majority. you forgot the whole topic we were addressing, you need some rest to fix that attention span of yours. oh and don't assume things based on little evidence.
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KaceSpace said:
katsucats said:
When you call evidence as "shoving studies down people's throats", we see how pointless it is to reason with such a self-entitled "feminist" that you claim to be. You're like a caricature cutout of the feminist you're trying to deny existence of. Tell that to yourself next time your cite your NISVS rape study.
i never read the nisvs study so you're wrong once again, and you should feel bad for being wrong.
Why should I feel bad for having overestimated you? 1 out of 4 (or whatever) women have been raped. If you never seen this statistic or flaunted it, that's besides the point.

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other than that, what you linked is still minority, not majority. you forgot the whole topic we were addressing, you need some rest to fix that attention span of yours. oh and don't assume things based on little evidence.
Well, I was addressing how Patriarch feminists are the majority, wherein you accused me of exaggerating. It's all enshrined in the quote history. Go ahead, scroll up, I'll wait. And while you're at it, please learn about how a bald assertion is not an argument.
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katsucats said:
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i never read the nisvs study so you're wrong once again, and you should feel bad for being wrong.
Why should I feel bad for having overestimated you? 1 out of 4 (or whatever) women have been raped. If you never seen this statistic or flaunted it, that's besides the point.

KaceSpace said:
other than that, what you linked is still minority, not majority. you forgot the whole topic we were addressing, you need some rest to fix that attention span of yours. oh and don't assume things based on little evidence.
Well, I was addressing how Patriarch feminists are the majority, wherein you accused me of exaggerating. It's all enshrined in the quote history. Go ahead, scroll up, I'll wait. And while you're at it, please learn about how a bald assertion is not an argument.


what's with your constant looking down upon? fix up
and no, they're on majority, and the simple definition of the theory as zerg provided above is the correct definition. but people always try to argue that it's not true when you can read on feminist sites about them.
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