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AnimeMangaSuki said: symbv said: Naxrrhid said: Why Naxrrhid called Shinsekai Yori shit and crap:this season seems to be filled with alot of great ones, well with the exception of the BS crap that is Shitsekai Yaoi! The only anime to equal Mars of Destruction! - He loved the show and kept praising it for 3 episodes - As soon as he heard there is some yuri/yaoi in the source material (not shown in the anime) he freaked out and started to troll the Shinsekai Yori board, calling it Shit and Crap - Not satisfied with being called a homophobic, he started to call this show "Shitsekai Yaoi" in every anime thread he went but never disclosed how he reached that conclusion. In short, Naxrrhid is a HOMOPHOBIC who will shift his evaluation of an anime to shit and crap just because of any slightest hint of yaoi/yuri. you sir deserve the clap that was given to Ishhiki by his classmates :') Heh, he sure does :P |
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| I really hate Rikka's servant. She's getting on my nerves. By the way, Rikka's sister is so cool. She's my second favorite after Nibutani ^^ or maybe, she was first and then nibutani. Lol.. i don't care who's first. :D |
| That was lame but it still got a few snickers from me. XD They promised not to laughed but I had laughed at the look of their faces while they while laughing at him. So I was wondering if there really was a girl who wrote the letter? |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
NNick said: Rikka is the best thing in this show. I agree. She needs more screentime. Less emphasis on side characters please KyoAni. Unless you can make them interesting. Zel_Ezl said: I really hate Rikka's servant. She's getting on my nerves. I agree with you too. I'm not sure why though. Rikka comes off as being adorable and awesome, while Dekomori comes off as being annoying and irritating, even though if I step back for a second, they are very similar characters. Ahhh, the hypocrisy! |
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| Funny and cute ep, as always. |
AnimeMangaSuki said: symbv said: Naxrrhid said: Why Naxrrhid called Shinsekai Yori shit and crap:this season seems to be filled with alot of great ones, well with the exception of the BS crap that is Shitsekai Yaoi! The only anime to equal Mars of Destruction! - He loved the show and kept praising it for 3 episodes - As soon as he heard there is some yuri/yaoi in the source material (not shown in the anime) he freaked out and started to troll the Shinsekai Yori board, calling it Shit and Crap - Not satisfied with being called a homophobic, he started to call this show "Shitsekai Yaoi" in every anime thread he went but never disclosed how he reached that conclusion. In short, Naxrrhid is a HOMOPHOBIC who will shift his evaluation of an anime to shit and crap just because of any slightest hint of yaoi/yuri. you sir deserve the clap that was given to Ishhiki by his classmates :')  |
| I think we all know which one he's gonna pick...Jakarta, motherfackas. |
destructo22Nov 10, 2012 12:24 PM
| My ass is starting to bald at 20 and this guy is whining about 35!? it could be way worse my boy. |
| Pretty enjoyable episode, nice to see an episode based on Togashi's friend. It's always nice to see Nibutani get tackled by Sanae because she is such a bitch. |
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So is Isshiki a crip now? |
| omg Kumin WHAT ARE YOU DOING |
PlotExMachina said: Ep 7 PV I like the puppy. Omniknight said: Zel_Ezl said: I really hate Rikka's servant. She's getting on my nerves. I agree with you too. I'm not sure why though. Rikka comes off as being adorable and awesome, while Dekomori comes off as being annoying and irritating, even though if I step back for a second, they are very similar characters. Ahhh, the hypocrisy! Rikka and Dekomori aren't actually that similar. Dekomori is defined mostly by her relationship with Nibutani, and those are the worst moments in the entire show. Their fights are boring and don't add any depth to their characters. It might have been funny the first time Dekomori ambushed Nibutani, but it was cliche to begin with and the lack of variation has made the humor incredibly underwhelming. Actually, I found it much more annoying than funny the first time Nibutani "was defeated by the words of the true Mori Summer." And their relationship just makes them both seem bitchy, Dekomori more so. Which makes them less likeable. Their laughing at Isshiki didn't help either. What I think they should do is replace all of the Nibutani and Dekomori nonsense with Kumin napping. That would make me happy. |
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NNick said: Slice-of-life comedy usually does not have "plot" as you understand it. The plot is the various situation they find themselves in, with perhaps a bit of evolution of the relationship between characters. There may be a bigger event near the end so that there will be a mini-climax at the end, but there is usually no overarching "plot" as you may often expect in a TV drama.Obligatory beach episode, It was bound to happen sooner or later. Episode 7 and still no plot, right? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
NNick said: Yes, just enjoy the ride. Look at how the characters interact with each other, and have fun. Character relationship does evolve (like Isshiki getting to know people like Nibutani or Kumin better in this episode) but that's about it in terms of any "plot progress".I see, so this show is about having fun while watching it without expecting much out of it. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
NNick said: I see, so this show is about having fun while watching it without expecting much out of it. You actually haven't encountered slice-of-life before? Go watch Hanasaku Iroha. |
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ataraxial said: Hmm.. I would say Hanasaku Iroha has quite significant drama/melodrama element compared to purer slice-of-life like Hidamari or A-Channel. But then perhaps it is a good way to get a feel of what slice-of-life is like before jumping to the deep end.NNick said: You actually haven't encountered slice-of-life before? Go watch Hanasaku Iroha.I see, so this show is about having fun while watching it without expecting much out of it. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Hmm.. I would say Hanasaku Iroha has quite significant drama/melodrama element compared to purer slice-of-life like Hidamari or A-Channel. But then perhaps it is a good way to get a feel of what slice-of-life is like before jumping to the deep end. I find that the best titles within a genre tend to not be purely confined to the genre itself. Although I would recommend A-Channel as well, just not as much. To be honest though, A-Channel isn't "pure slice-of-life" either, whatever that even means. Whatever amount of drama HanaIro has, A-Channel compensates with an equivalent amount of comedy. |
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ataraxial said: On the other hand, my most favorite titles of slice-of-life genre all belong to the purer type. In fact, if I have to describe Hanasaku Iroha's primary genre, I think I'd lean more towards drama than slice-of-life, but I guess it is entirely subject to personal preference. I find that the best titles within a genre tend to not be purely confined to the genre itself. ataraxial said: A-Channel's drama is the kind of little drama common in pure slice-of-life, whereas those in Hanasaku Iroha has drama that extends to several episodes and sometimes can turn quite melodramatic, which is why I call A-Channel to be a purer slice-of-life work than Hanasaku Iroha.To be honest though, A-Channel isn't "pure slice-of-life" either, whatever that even means. Whatever amount of drama HanaIro has, A-Channel compensates with an equivalent amount of comedy. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| OK I got just got wind of the preview. Here is my take on it. Already I love the skin and body composure of the 2 girls in following,  Sanae looks especially delicious with more skin/body revealed of her. Very nice. While Rikka, well adorable in her own way but I am more a Sanae fan. Rest of my thoughts in the club: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=517487 Due to new rules of screenshots. |
NNick said: Fan service in Haruhi is already quite mild if you ask me. And Haruhi's appeal is not just the characters (but the characters count a lot for its appeal so if you don't like the characters at all then most likely the show is not for you). To me, Haruhi belongs to an entirely sui generis position among other slice-of-life work because it presents a highly abnormal group of characters with grandly epic proportion implication into the humdrum of a daily highschool slice-of-life. A rare manifestation of "sekai-kei" genre merging with "slice-of-life" genre, leading to a close and dense mix of insightful drama with crazy humor, that appeals to me most. Anime in Japan can be hard to understand for people coming with a western drama tradition because often a coherent overarching plot is far from the priority - often they treasure the little bits and short stories that highlight the various bits and finer details of the same thing, which may develop only slowly and apparently randomly. Nah, I have watched Haruhi before, and I hated it, well, that might be too harsh said, but, yeah, I didn't like it, too much randomness and I generally prefer more coherent fan service-less shows with plot I find interesting and intriguing, that's why my list is so empty. Dont get me wrong, I've seen much more shows than that, but I ultimately decided to only leave those on my list which were rated above 8. Anyway, it just happened that I read a survey in a Japan anime forum which anime got the users to become a keen anime fan and the no.1 turned out to be Haurhi, beating popular choices like Evangelion or Gundam. Interesting result. Anyway, to be more on-topic, I would say Chuunibyou is more a slice-of-life comedy but I heard it may turn into a romcom in the second half of the series. Let's see how it goes. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
NNick said: And, to be honest, I continued watching this show only because of Kumin. Fixed. In all serioiusness though, the first half of Steins;Gate just wasn't as good as it should have been. The second half is what makes it such a great anime and all that. So you shouldn't really use it to measure your preference of plot vs slice-of-life. symbv said: ataraxial said: On the other hand, my most favorite titles of slice-of-life genre all belong to the purer type. In fact, if I have to describe Hanasaku Iroha's primary genre, I think I'd lean more towards drama than slice-of-life, but I guess it is entirely subject to personal preference. I find that the best titles within a genre tend to not be purely confined to the genre itself. ataraxial said: A-Channel's drama is the kind of little drama common in pure slice-of-life, whereas those in Hanasaku Iroha has drama that extends to several episodes and sometimes can turn quite melodramatic, which is why I call A-Channel to be a purer slice-of-life work than Hanasaku Iroha.To be honest though, A-Channel isn't "pure slice-of-life" either, whatever that even means. Whatever amount of drama HanaIro has, A-Channel compensates with an equivalent amount of comedy. I agree that HanaIro is more melodramatic, but A-Channel has comedic exaggeration to compensate. All four characters in A-Channel are exaggerated within their stereotypes, with the most obvious being Run. Nobody actually acts like that in real life. This makes A-Channel a hybrid slice-of-life/comedy in contrast to HanaIro's slice-of-life/drama and not really a "pure" slice-of-life anime. |
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ataraxial said: Slice-of-life can be exaggerated and not like real life. And it is not limited to slice-of-life. Many characters in anime would not act like real life people. Those characters in Chuunibyou are almost all very much exaggerated and carry with them a load of stereotypes too. To me slice-of-life is equivalent to what Japanese say Nichijou-kei 日常系 (translated "slice-of-life genre") and is almost always used to describe slice-of-life comedy - this is what I refer to as "pure slice-of-life". So for me if there is melodrama in it, then it is usually not called "slice-of-life" for the show, even though inside it has slice-of-life elements. For Hanasaku Iroha, the primary genre would be 生活ドラマ (translated "life drama") although it has quite a number of scenes with slice-of-life comedy components.I agree that HanaIro is more melodramatic, but A-Channel has comedic exaggeration to compensate. All four characters in A-Channel are exaggerated within their stereotypes, with the most obvious being Run. Nobody actually acts like that in real life. This makes A-Channel a hybrid slice-of-life/comedy in contrast to HanaIro's slice-of-life/drama and not really a "pure" slice-of-life anime. For Chuunibyou, the genre given in Japan hovers between Slice-of-Life and Love Comedy. We shall see how much it leans to Love Comedy (romcom) as the series progresses. |
symbvNov 12, 2012 9:30 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
NNick said: It depends on how you look at a work. Anime presents its challenge because the way it builds story or presents its theme can be very different from a western real-life drama - the media are different, the culture is different. What I'd say is that to appreciate a work it is better to keep an open mind and appreciate what is done well instead of sticking to a standard to judge a work.Yeah, I only started watching anime like, 6 Months ago. and I find most of the shows simply unbearably shallow. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Slice-of-life can be exaggerated and not like real life. And it is not limited to slice-of-life. Many characters in anime would not act like real life people. Those characters in Chuunibyou are almost all very much exaggerated and carry with them a load of stereotypes too. To me slice-of-life is equivalent to what Japanese say Nichijou-kei 日常系 (translated "slice-of-life genre") and is almost always used to describe slice-of-life comedy - this is what I refer to as "pure slice-of-life"). So for me if you have melodrama in it, then it is usually not called "slice-of-life" for the show, even though inside it has slice-of-life elements. For Hanasaku Iroha, the primary genre would be 生活ドラマ (translated "real-life drama") although it has quite a number of scenes with slice-of-life comedy components. That's a fairly narrow interpretation of the term "slice-of-life" though. I agree that most slice-of-life anime tend towards comedy, but I don't think that comedy is part of the definition of slice-of-life. Maybe it's a language issue, since in English, slice-of-life can be used to describe art other than anime. Either way, as a genre label, it's more of a description of setting than anything else. If you follow some characters through a mundane setting of everyday school/work, then that's slice-of-life. Whether the rest of the anime tends towards comedy or drama is somewhat irrelevant, as long as there is not too much development in terms of plot. |
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ataraxial said: Language definitely presents a problem, but if I write Nichijou-kei, would people understand? I prefer to use an English word if possible. My choice is to keep a narrow interpretation of the word slice-of-life (which is how the Japanese word Nichijou-kei would be translated to in English anyway) and matches it with the meaning of the Japanese word Nichijou-kei.That's a fairly narrow interpretation of the term "slice-of-life" though. I agree that most slice-of-life anime tend towards comedy, but I don't think that comedy is part of the definition of slice-of-life. Maybe it's a language issue, since in English, slice-of-life can be used to describe art other than anime. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Language definitely presents a problem, but if I write Nichijou-kei, would people understand? I prefer to use an English word if possible. My choice is to keep a narrow interpretation of the word slice-of-life (which is how the Japanese word Nichijou-kei would be translated to in English anyway) and matches it with the meaning of the Japanese word Nichijou-kei. If they've seen Nichijou, they would have some idea at least, haha. More important, I actually find it more useful to associate slice-of-life with more drama-ish shows. Ore no Imouto comes to mind as one example. For comedy/slice-of-life... you can just call it comedy. After all, slice-of-life comedy and comedy as a broader genre are almost equivalent within anime (not quite, but close), while drama in a slice-of-life setting is distinct from drama in other settings. Just calling HanaIro "drama" doesn't say much about it, whereas calling HanaIro "slice-of-life" and A-Channel "comedy" gives you a much better understanding of what the shows are about. That is, assuming you don't immediately read "slice-of-life" as "slice-of-life comedy." |
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| Personally, I've never much cared for the label "slice of life", since it means so many different things to so many different people and is usually to broadly applied. |
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Cratex said: Personally, I've never much cared for the label "slice of life", since it means so many different things to so many different people and is usually to broadly applied. How would you describe shows that are referred to as "slice-of-life" then? |
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ataraxial said: I don't - not my job (grin)How would you describe shows that are referred to as "slice-of-life" then? Seriously, it all depends upon the show and what I got out of it. |
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NNick said: You are the drama type so this kind of slice-of-life show may be an acquired taste to you. Oh, I did Appreciate Death Note and Fate Zero S1 and S2. The best animated shows I've ever seen. Not to insult anyone, but this show doesn't come anywhere near the quality of those 2 shows. Anyway, in terms of technical achievement like sakuga (still art and motion/expression animation) or sound/music Chuunibyou is among the top class that can be made in the anime industry, which is what people have come to expect from Kyoto Animation (or KyoAni in short), the studio which animates this show. So perhaps you can look at this show from these angles, which I think is at least a good match for Fate/Zero and definitely beats Death Note. |
symbvNov 12, 2012 9:57 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Cratex said: ataraxial said: I don't - not my job (grin)How would you describe shows that are referred to as "slice-of-life" then? Seriously, it all depends upon the show and what I got out of it. Now you're just weaseling out of answering the question. Genre words exist to describe shows in a concise manner. Maybe you don't use them at all, but that seems a bit unlikely. symbv said: NNick said: You are the drama type so this kind of slice-of-life show may be an acquired taste to you. Oh, I did Appreciate Death Note and Fate Zero S1 and S2. The best animated shows I've ever seen. Not to insult anyone, but this show doesn't come anywhere near the quality of those 2 shows. Anyway, in terms of technical achievement like sakuga (still art and motion/expression animation) or sound/music Chuunibyou is among the top class that can be made in the anime industry, which is what people have come to expect from Kyoto Animation (or KyoAni in short), the studio which animates this show. So perhaps you can look at this show from these angles, which I think is at least a good match for Fate/Zero and definitely beats Death Note. I don't think Chuunibyou is all that great as a slice-of-life comedy. It looks amazing, I agree, but I don't see how it's any better than K-ON for instance. |
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ataraxial said: If you read my post closely, you should know I was talking only about its "technical achievement" and ask NNick to appreciate the show from that perspective. I was not saying anything about whether Chuunibyou is a great show in general. And in terms of the aspects I mention like sakuga and sound I think it is indeed top class (and so is K-On). symbv said: Anyway, in terms of technical achievement like sakuga (still art and motion/expression animation) or sound/music Chuunibyou is among the top class that can be made in the anime industry, which is what people have come to expect from Kyoto Animation (or KyoAni in short), the studio which animates this show. So perhaps you can look at this show from these angles, which I think is at least a good match for Fate/Zero and definitely beats Death Note. I don't think Chuunibyou is all that great as a slice-of-life comedy. It looks amazing, I agree, but I don't see how it's any better than K-ON for instance. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: ataraxial said: symbv said: Anyway, in terms of technical achievement like sakuga (still art and motion/expression animation) or sound/music Chuunibyou is among the top class that can be made in the anime industry, which is what people have come to expect from Kyoto Animation (or KyoAni in short), the studio which animates this show. So perhaps you can look at this show from these angles, which I think is at least a good match for Fate/Zero and definitely beats Death Note. I don't think Chuunibyou is all that great as a slice-of-life comedy. It looks amazing, I agree, but I don't see how it's any better than K-ON for instance. If you read my post closely, you should know I was talking only about "technical achievement" and ask NNick to appreciate the show from that perspective. I was not saying anything about whether Chuunibyou is a great show itself. I wasn't disagreeing...? |
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ataraxial said: Since you quoted my whole post, I thought you were posting as a direct response to what I said in my post.I wasn't disagreeing...? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: ataraxial said: I wasn't disagreeing...? Since you quoted my whole post, I thought you were posting as a direct response to what I said in my post. It was a response, but it wasn't to disagree with you about the artistic quality or anything like that. It was more like I wanted to qualify your statement by making it more obvious that you were only talking about the art. |
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ataraxial said: I see, would appreciate if it was a bit more clearly stated so in your post... ;-)It was a response, but it wasn't to disagree with you about the artistic quality or anything like that. It was more like I wanted to qualify your statement by making it more obvious that you were only talking about the art. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: ataraxial said: I see, would appreciate if it was a bit more clearly stated so in your post... ;-)It was a response, but it wasn't to disagree with you about the artistic quality or anything like that. It was more like I wanted to qualify your statement by making it more obvious that you were only talking about the art. It was also an attempt to segue into actually talking about the show. So I gave my overall opinion of it to start off. NNick said: So, what's a good slice of life show? As far as i know life is not all rainbows and cute girls having fun on beach. Life is a ____ and Japanese seem to fail to show that. For comedy, watch Nichijou. "Drama," Hanasaku Iroha. |
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