What is your sexual orientation?

Supernova1337 said:
Because a world filled with isolated fortresses would prosper, as opposed to one where all the kingdoms trade and benefit from each other... *face palm*

Stop trying to come up with stupid metaphors to hide the fact that you're bias, and just stop being bias. I don't fap to Yaoi, i'm not gay, and no one is making you fap to it either.

I didn't realize not finding something arousing meant you hated it... i must hate a lot of things...

I hate my wallpaper, and this keyboard, and that pen, and that lamp, and my remote control...

Wow, i never knew i was such a hateful person.

nexist418 said:

Actually, I was quoting a video game, because the quote is relevant and amusing. There is no such thing as an open mind. The closed mind belongs to those who disagree with you. Tellign someone to have an open mind is nothing more than a denigrative & dismissive way to get other people to agree with you without having to provide a justification for one's position. It is the Moral equivalent of your "face palm."

You go off on a tangent, probably to cover that your discomfort, about how you aren't gay -- like I care. You accuse me of having bias, thanks. The very act of perception means that we interpret the objective phenomenon. What we call unbiased is nothing more than the taking of an imperfect image and savaging out the most noticeable flaws. Knowing one's biases prevents one from putting them forth as an absolute truth.

Also, I never mentioned arousal at all, so I find it amusing that you feel that is the motive for my hatred. I will admit that I was using hate in the colloquial sense, similar to how I hate cauliflower and coconut & not in the pure sense of how I feel toward the willfully ignorant in their crusade to ensure that none know more than they.

I don't think you are very hateful, few people are comfortable with all of their emotions.

PS. Normally I would let it slide, but since you commented on the other person's grammar, I thought I should mention that it is "biased" & not just "bias" in both cases.

ShellySaurus said:
This conversation went from lulzy and light to lulzy and RAAAAAGE.

Supernova1337 said:
There's no such thing as an open mind? I fail to see how that's true at all, nor is telling someone they have an open mind the equivalent of agreeing with them. If somebody told me that(for lack of a better example) they tried having sex with someone with a suffocation fetish, i wouldn't think they were doing the right thing endangering themselves, but I'd never be able to say they don't have an open mind...

Fine, arousal aside, there are only two logical reasons I can see as to why someone would hate yaoi. If i'm missing something, please dont hesitate to let me know.

1. You denounce homosexuals, which would be a little strange for someone in a yuri club

or 2. Yaoi does not appeal to you, sexually or otherwise. However, given that you are in a yuri club, yet you hate yaoi, you must be basing your hatred on your sexual orientation, because that is the only difference i can see between yaoi and yuri, the genders involved. Saying you hate the genre while admitting that you enjoy it's sexual opposite is hypocritical.

Juri21 said:
C'mon guys, aren't both of you taking either end of the extreme here? I can see and agree with some of both sides.

The whole hate thing just got a little out of hand. Only one person wrote about it in a hateful manner, but the response was just as hateful.

I will say that I genuinely dislike yaoi and I will not want to read it and that is based off my sexual orientation, that I am in no way attracted to men. I wouldn't even read shounen-ai because I only want to read romances that I can relate to. That is my personal bias and there isn't anything wrong with it.

Akazukin said:
C'mon guys, Everyone knows hatred is the Emperor's greatest gift to humanity.

miscs said:
I love how allot of topics in this club end up going on a random tangent.

nexist418 said:

So you are saying that tolerating &/or engaging in fetishes is open-minded? If that's the criteria darling, I am probably the most open minded on this list, being as I have a 23.7% rating on the 1000 question purity test. Given that I meet your example, you have said that someone who has dated someone with a suffocation fetish has a closed mind.

Now, You make a rather bold statement, one which I actually found offensive. Where have I ever denounced homosexuals? Unless you can cite an example, I do expect an apology for that.

Your second point is stupid. Since I like romance stories about girls I have to like them about boys? Why? I don't like people in general, they are stupid, illogical and way to prone to parroting pat answers by rote rather than seeking truth. Since I am not attracted to men, why would I put aside my natural antipathy to the gender so as to read some romance when I can find those that tie into my natural sympathies and enjoy the story with little or no effort.

Supernova1337 said:
I didn't say you had to watch it, did i? I just said you shouldn't "hate" it simply because you don't want to watch it. That's like me saying I hate kiddie shows. they're not aimed at me, how can i rightfully say i hate it? In the same way, yaoi isn't aimed at straight guys, so you are in no position to judge it.

nexist418 said:

You still haven't apologized for your slander. Is it really that hard to admit when you are wrong?

What is this "right" BS. I have the right to hate anything I want to hate -- whether it be puppies or war. As a discerning, sentient being I not only in a position to judge, it is my duty to not waste the abilities given to me and pass judgment on any and all things about me. The fear of judging is derived from the fear of committing which is one of the maladies afflicting the Modern World.

Btw, since "yaoi isn't aimed at straight guys" & you stated that you were straight, doesn't that invalidate your liking it as well? How old are you? Pick up a book on elementary logic.

Supernova1337 said:
I never said i liked Yaoi, i don't. I have no intention of ever seeing one. The point was I'm not judging or hating it, like you. Sure, you have the "right" to hate anything you want, but it doesn't necessarily make you a good person.

kaigen said:

@supernova1337- I felt you when over board at the new person coming he might not come back now, he was just trying to be friendly. well it done now doesn't matter. but for the future you might be a little less grrr.

kaigen said:
@nexist418- I don't want to get into a discussion about it but I feel like, you enjoy conflict and I'll be honest I find you a bit intimidating, especially seance you said that you don't like people, I get on peoples nerves very easily with out trying, I don't really know what I do to get that but I always feel disliked by the people around me. So I feel even more grrr at me >.<

do girly like really girly lesbians exist?

Supernova1337 said:


Sorry, i'll back off ^- ^;

but do we really need someone who talks in 1337speak here anyway?

nexist418 said:




Yes. My recollection puts the number of "girly" lesbians at about the same proportion as they exist int he straight population. There are "butch" straight girls as well.

tehnominator said:


Oh, totally. You just don't see them or you ignore them thinking they're "straight".

Drocr said:
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kaigen said:
as for the real topic, I have another question. do girly like really girly lesbians exist? I'm sure a few here and there but what i mean is, are they so rare that its almost like a myth or do they rome around form time to time.
I not saying that you all are without femininity I am just curious about the really feminine types.

nexist418 said:


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Juri21 said:

Haha, just as tehnominator and Drocr said, yes they do exist. Which is a good thing for me since those are usually the ones that I date and are generally attracted to ^^. Not all lesbians have to be 'butch' or tomboys you know.

Oh, and what's wrong with a little l337 5p34|< ?
I think other girls that know l337 are hot actually, the nerdier the better ^_~.

Drocr said:

I have never seen a butch girl that is not gay XD

Drocr said:




Hahaha, I don't know if that is a compliment or insult haha. I suppose I'm a little nerdy... I 1337 speak various levels, photoshop, web design, web master, watch anime, read manga, love to read, play the flute... haha I could go on :p

nexist418 said:


It's not so much that I enjoy conflict as that I am not afraid of conflict & I am unconcerned with people's opinion of me. I do believe in Dialectic as the most efficacious method for arriving at the truth. Let the ideas do battle and the strength of the truth will emerge victorious.

Drocr said:


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Drocr said:
I have never seen a butch girl that is not gay XD

Drocr said:


Hahaha, I don't know if that is a compliment or insult haha. I suppose I'm a little nerdy... I 1337 speak various levels, photoshop, web design, web master, watch anime, read manga, love to read, play the flute... haha I could go on :p

nexist418 said:


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I wasn't able to decipher the hole thing, but I think I get it =_=;

Does anyone remember the T-Shirt hell shirt that said "Talk Nerdy To
Me?"

kaigen said:
@nexist418- I thought that might be the case, I know a student at UVA that was state champ at debate in high school. this girl can argue, point being that she is smart and knows how to bend words, what she is saying doesn't have to be the "truth" for her to win an argument.

kaigen said:
"the truth always feels like a distant memory." (quote form big O, I think you would like it one of the major themes is the value of the truth and if people really what it or prefer ignorance. It also goes over the perspective of truth, and what it means to an individual.) "there is no one truth, but many truths." another quote.

kaigen said:
I don't do t3h 1337 but I don't discourage people form using it if that is their way, I like to >.> emote quite frequently and I'm not the best speller (I think my grammar is at least passable) but no one shuns me =_=; I hope.

kaigen said:
you can tell by my anime list alone that I= geek I work I.T. (not the level of nexist418) I play table top Strategy games, I play paper and pencil RPG's (D&D, world of darkness) I play video games ^_^ I do what ever I can not to face reality.(pathetic but, my life, I'll live it, my way)

nexist418 said:


I try to avoid Sophistry, and I recognize equivocation as a logical fallacy. If you guard against these two items, you can ensure that the "truth" or at least a reasonable representation of it, is victorious. A debate is much like the battles in the Samurai films, the person who defines the pace and setting usually wins.

I feel it is more accurate to state that there is one truth but many interpretations of that truth. This also means that no one has the complete picture, though many may have a more complete picture.

When I go back to school, it is my intent to study anything but computers. I am sick of working in IT. As for Geek Cred, I was playing D&D in 1977. I played with my first computer around 1975. I taught myself BASIC in 1981. I read Sci-Fi/Fantasy/'Horror.' I tend to favor RTS style Video games.

kaigen said:
you are a blob of philosophical fun!!!! I love this stuff, It's to bad I'm cursed with such hatred for books (see My personal paradox; on my page) but I have a chance at redemption for the hatred every time I meet someone like you <(=_=)> *bows to your knowledge.

how long have you been in I.T? I'm new to it (1 year no collage) what type of RTS do you play? micromanage vs. send the troops and see what happens

Juri21 said:

Haha, no no that's a compliment! (at least coming from me ^^). The college I'm attending has a club where we wear the title "Nerd" as a badge of honor. We're called the Campus Nerds, and we're the biggest organization on campus, I'm also an officer ^_^. So when I call someone a nerd, it's a compliment.


........plus you can't be called anything but nerdy if you read and write l337. (^_~)v

nexist418 said:


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nexist said:

I have -- or rather they were at least bisexual at the time. ;)

Does anyone remember the T-Shirt hell shirt that said "Talk Nerdy To Me?"

Drocr said:
I was in the band, so technically that can be like a geek club? Though none of the school really considered us geeks xD We got along great with all the other cliques xD

Hey, hey, I suppose that is true :p But it only took me 5 mins to learn to read and write it :)

Drocr said:

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Drocr said:

Lol no but I want to see it :D

ALSO we need more of the guys here in the I wish I was a lesbian club ;D

nexist said:
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Drocr said:
Yeah I think you are just overthinking it nexist haha.
Sweet t-shirt!

Drocr said:


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nexist418 said:


A common fault of mine.



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tehnominator said:
Wtf speak the English on my internets.

nexist418 said:


A common fault of mine.

nexist418 said:


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nexist418 said:
I have a T-Shirt which reads:

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Nexist said:
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