Black★Rock Shooter (TV) Episode 2 Discussion

Shih said:
The plot feels childish. The characters' actions feel unreal.
The fantasy world is just a mirror image of the real world... filler? = =|
Battle scenes are boring... One side gets owned, then it suddenly switches....
Lost interest... Sigh.
At least ED is enjoyable.

Raziel1991 said:


Well its meant to be childish, these girls just entered middleschool. They must be like 12 or 13 years old, thats why its somewhat understandable to see them behave in a somewhat inmature and illogical manner. I also like to point out that this show was never meant to be realistic or have any sort of deep plot. It seems people still dont understand that.

kiz-chan said:


The problem so far is that the "battle" world doesn't add much to the story. And the "real" world drama is too forced. I still have hope this anime can turn out to be decent.

BRSxIgnition said:
I really don't get all the hate.. What are you people even expecting..?

I just.. whatisthisIdonteven...

BRSxIgnition said:
I really don't get all the hate.. What are you people even expecting..?

I just.. whatisthisIdonteven...

Khaoticsuccubus said:


I really don't get why you AREN'T expecting anything? Is it so wrong to hope for at least a remotely decent work from something that has such an interesting concept. The game was very nice imo. The manga's interesting too. So why is it so hard to understand the hate when the anime is just so... poorly done. As I said b4 when I watch a show titled Black Rock Shooter I would think the show would actually be ABOUT Black Rock Shooter. :P

Solkiskey said:


It's not bad, only if their reactions weren't so forced and derpy.

Blackiris said:

My, my. My thoughts exactly. Some may say that this is drama - that's quite wrong, because drama originates from something serious and of a true nature (usually drama is strongly connected with verisimilitude of emotions). Then, maybe melodrama? After all, that's the genre featuring exaggerated feelings, stereotypical characters, and doesn't even try to be too serious about that. Damn, not this one too - after all BRS seems to be treating itself quite seriously. And here comes the term perfectly reflecting this series. It's loldrama - it happens when drama is so forced, and so un-fucking-natural that you actually start to find it hilarious. And it fits BRS perfectly - it's so goddamn forced and unnatural that I'm not sure whether I shouldn't actually laugh at certain moments... Although I dare to say that the fighting scenes are done better than I had expected, and the other world does its work as a feelings-to-battle mirror quite well.

2/5 for this episode.

BRSxIgnition said:

I just don't see how the drama is forced. I hate cheesy, forced drama moments as much as you or the next person, but I don't see how that is the case here.

Yomi has been forced by her family and Kagari's to be at Kagari's side almost all the time. After the accident that happened to Kagari, she became a darker person, and began to take advantage of this. The reason Yomi is so conflicted, is because she's always never had to worry about having friends. Anyone who tried to be her friend would just be turned away and give up, but Mato didn't give up, and because she is the first one to fight so hard for her friendship, it gives her conflicting emotions. Should she stay with Kagari like their families want - and force Mato away? Should she stand up for what she wants, and hurt Kagari and her family?

I really don't see how any of this is forced, seeing as it could easily happen in real life when families and friends are pushed to that extent - especially at the ages the girls are at in this anime. Similar drama has happened to me before - forgoing the alternative world though.. Haha.

Anyway, have an open mind. Just because you don't have drama like that in your life, doesn't mean it never happens in the world.

Blackiris said:
I will state that one more - BRS is a series with an excellent premise, fancy fight scenes, catchy music, and inane plot (over)spiced with loldrama.

MrHatandClogs said:


That is just your opinion, quit trying to act like what you think is pure fact!
Who made you God?

Blackiris said:

Woah, woah, wait right there! I'm not really sure know whether you're actually serious, trolling, or you decide to remain oblivious to the obvious. I'll allow myself to begin with what you stated in bold - as it's quite invidious for me. I have had quite a bit of drama in my life, and I know how people tend to react to such situations and I know what it means to suffer mentally - and that's all the more a reason why I can criticize such cheesy and pretentious loldrama as it's presented in BRS.
You don't really need to summarize everything for me, we're watching the same series after all, and I dare to say that I have no issues regarding comprehension of visual and audible material.

The premise is fine, it's well-thought and gives a vast range of possibilities, which are - sadly - nowhere to be found in the series. Project yourself onto the main heroine, and ponder whether you'd really wait a few hours for someone met a day or two ago. Would you care enough to make a ruckus in hell as if the ninth circle of hell was about to manifest on Earth? Would you cry, have nightmares, suffer on the inside, and was losing it just because a bratty sister of your newly met pal teased you? Would you? I dare to say you'd not. I will skip the use of fancy tropes, such as a metaphor about little birds, as it's only natural to spice things up a bit by using words completely unfitting the characters. But what about Yomi, the Dead Master? She certainly may feel a bit guilty about that whole thing from the past when her sis hurt herself in an accident. Sure. But for fuck's sake - letting your younger sister tease torment you to such a level? Using an idle to carve a heart-like symbol on your skin? Forcing you to eat cookies? Threatening you mentally? What the hell? Is she autistic, or what? If someone there needs a consultation with a psychiatrist, it's her - not that sister.

I will state that one more - BRS is a series with an excellent premise, fancy fight scenes, catchy music, and inane plot (over)spiced with loldrama.

Blackiris said:
She certainly may feel a bit guilty about that whole thing from the past when her sis hurt herself in an accident. Sure. But for fuck's sake - letting your younger sister tease torment you to such a level? Using an idle to carve a heart-like symbol on your skin? Forcing you to eat cookies? Threatening you mentally? What the hell? Is she autistic, or what? If someone there needs a consultation with a psychiatrist, it's her - not that sister.

Khaoticsuccubus said:


But it is fact... whether or not you like to ignore it is on you though (^_~)v

MrHatandClogs said:


That is just your opinion, quit trying to act like what you think is pure fact!
Who made you God?

BRSxIgnition said:
I may not do that, but who are you to say nobody would wait that long? And nobody would do other things that the characters here do?

You can say the exact same things for Madoka Magica, which in my eyes, has much more "loldrama" than BRS. In comparison, Madoka is not as good as BRS when it comes to execution and delivery of the action, drama, plot, and emotions.

Just because a character acts differently than what you'd do or what you expect, it makes it a horrible?

I'd love to see what you consider good.

Blackiris said:
And for the sake of everything that's logical, I'm not saying that BRS is bad because characters act in a different way than I would expect them to (in fact, if that was so, the series would be terrible), but because every single bit of drama is forced down my throat. You may want to call it an overexposition of emotions combined with their illogical nature.

Blackiris said:

But hey - it's a matter of tastes, right? I may prefer a more realistic approach to certain things, and someone else can enjoy things as they are. There's no point in arguing too much about nuances of this kind, really. You like it? You do. You stated you opinion, and that's fine. I don't like? I don't. I stated my opinion, and that's it. No matter which opinion is right, the most important thing in anime is not to argue over it, but to enjoy it.

AGirlInASweater said:
Hmmm. I think I'm starting to see a trend here!

Is it just me, or is this an anime for girls?

I myself love, love, love the anime- but as I was sitting there, watching, I was thinking- "what would a guy think of this?" And so, came to the conclusion that most guys would probably hate it!

I think that might be the issue here~

Khaoticsuccubus said:
Dunno bout that, would assume a guy would like it for the BRS scenes at the least if nothing else lol.

AngelicFeces said:
Moar liek colored macaroon shooter, amirite?
Am I the only one who laughs when watching this? It's all so silly.

AGirlInASweater said:
Hmmm. I think I'm starting to see a trend here!

Is it just me, or is this an anime for girls?

I myself love, love, love the anime- but as I was sitting there, watching, I was thinking- "what would a guy think of this?" And so, came to the conclusion that most guys would probably hate it!

I think that might be the issue here~

Bouum said:
How is it that Kagari can't move her leg anymore ? She was standing at the top of the stair and choose to fell down and then standing on her bed screaming and jumping in rage... That bitch was lying or what... !?

I don't quite get the ending...
What the fuck hapenned to Kagari for her to smile!... I'm talking out the Real World here, she didn't lose her head obliviously lol.

Omniknight said:
What bothers me, aside from the over-simplistic plot, is that the battles, despite being very well done in terms of animation, don't make any sense at all. How does Black Rock Shooter not take ANY lasting damage from being run over by a giant spider mech and being impaled from front to back by its claws? How does she still run after being twisted by all those chains? How did that spider mech reform suddenly back to its original shape after BRS shot off its legs in the ending of the first episode? The battles scenes just end up being flashy fight scenes with no rhyme or reason to them... It also doesn't help the pacing that the battle scenes are shown for extremely short glimpses, which interrupts both the flow of the battles as well as the flow of the real world story. At least this episode, they gave us a few minutes of fighting uninterrupted, which was great.

mikado34 said:


Here is my take on Kagari: Little Yomi and her mother were supposed to transfer somewhere and little Kagari was hit by a car when chasing after them. Yomi stayed by her friend's side because of pity and guilt and Kagari found out that if she acted pityful, she could force Yomi to stay forever. It became her obsession. She fakes being cripple even the doctors told her legs where fine. It turns out that it is the darkness and loneliness in her heart that make her sick (Chariot). Also staying at home and never come out for years can drive you crazy. She says it herself; she's scared to go outside and meet new people, she must be afraid that no one will accept her.

Chariot losing her head would mean the destruction of Kagai's inner demon, the hatred towards people who gets near Yomi. My guess is that she'll finally stop faking being cripple. Hopefully she'll be able to overcome her flaws and become a better person.