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What is the worth of Hunter x Hunter ?
It is made of excellence, and deserves to be added to our Enlightenment list.
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It is neither good or bad enough to be mentioned in our lists.
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Its flaws are ignored for all the hype it has, and it deserves to be added to the Relations list.
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Mar 10, 2013 4:07 AM
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POOL CLOSED, equal votes for 1 and 2 so it will not be added to this club lists at the moment

Hi, I joined this club recently, I often read mangas ( librarys, online ) and HxH is one of the best mangas I've ever, and while I don't consider better than for example Berserk or Monster there's no other mangas that I consider better than HxH simply because it's different and I consider it a masterpiece.

Here's a short review ( short because I didn't read it recently ) to try to convice you to vote for Enlightment ( I'm french so I may have bad english and I suck at reviews )

The manga of HxH is far better than both animes adaptation mostly because of its amazing art, Yoshihiro Togashi has an art style that no other mangaka has, he choose well the point of view, he often draw outside of the boxes resulting in a more dynamic manga, and often completely change how the characters are drawn depending on their feelings and the situation. And that's where HxH shine, often in action scenes the author focus on the characters thoughts and feelings and he does that better than almost all others mangakas.
note : many persons seems to dislike the art style
The story is very good and intense with almost no fillers, the characters except the main character ( the only flaw imo, the mc is neither bad nor good, but that also make others characters stand out more ) are extremely good. The situations in which the characters are are extremely diverse, making the manga very interresting even after 30 volumes.

Conclusion : Unlike many mangas HxH is not made just to satisfy the hunger of readers, it's a work of art : the author took his time ( 14 years atm ) to make the manga he wanted to do, never taking an easy way out like many authors to make new chapters faster ( Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail... ; he sometimes drew sketchy art but never made the story stupid ) and that's probably what makes it a great manga.

rating : 9/10

note : I took maekal options for the pool
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Mar 10, 2013 4:16 AM
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You should remove "Enlightenment" part from the title. It is only after the poll is closed that a manga/anime is deemed "enlightening", "unremarkable" or "overhyped".

As for the manga in question, I haven't read it so I'll abstain from voting, but if the Madhouse anime adaptation is anything to judge by, I think it's one of the very best shounen out there.
Mar 10, 2013 4:20 AM
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Yeah you shouldn't judge it based on the anime adaptations. Personally I just liked the old anime adaptation and I dropped the second anime
Mar 10, 2013 4:24 AM
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There's already a format to our polls. You should check out Maegil's format.

Also, check out the Admin thread as well. If you check it out, you'd see that we're currently talking about polling rules. Nothing's solid yet, so you may want to give suggestions on how polling here should be done.

As for Hunter x Hunter's manga, I think it's unremarkable. It had some decent moments, but because of the lack-luster art, the stretched arcs, the numerous hiatuses, and the gradual loss of identity, the manga isn't great enough or bad enough to be on either lists.
Mar 10, 2013 4:27 AM
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Haven't read the manga so I won't vote anything yet. Should start on Hunter x Hunter [Huhn-ter ecks Huhn-ter]. Never understood why the x was there if it was to be silent.

Speaking of Madhouse adaptions, they should adapt magi since after reading the manga I realised why A-1 should not adapt Magi.
Mar 10, 2013 4:28 AM
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shiranui51 said:
Yeah you shouldn't judge it based on the anime adaptations. Personally I just liked the old anime adaptation and I dropped the second anime

Well, I for one love the new anime. I think Madhouse are doing a great job.
Plus, what I've heard from the manga readers, it's pretty faithful adaptation.

SSC_Exin said:

Speaking of Madhouse adaptions, they should adapt magi since after reading the manga I realised why A-1 should not adapt Magi.

Magi anime seems to be going down the Ao no Exorcist route. Effing A-1!
Mar 10, 2013 4:36 AM
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> Ao no exorcist route

Al Sarmad is now the satanic hippie, who is run by Aladdin's dad. Their aim is to destroy the monarchy so the people in the slums can be free, through the only means conceivable --killing everyone.
Mar 10, 2013 4:39 AM
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Ducat_Revel said:


As for Hunter x Hunter's manga, I think it's unremarkable. It had some decent moments, but because of the lack-luster art, the stretched arcs, the numerous hiatuses, and the gradual loss of identity, the manga isn't great enough or bad enough to be on either lists.

wow lackluster art ? I think the art is amazing ! the quantity of details is just average but the quality is great and unique !
Mar 10, 2013 4:54 AM
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shiranui51 said:
wow lackluster art ? I think the art is amazing


Does that mean others are not allowed to disagree?
Also, it's not like Ducat's comment is unfounded. From what I've seen myself (admittedly I mostly skimmed chapters), the art isn't that great. It's not bad (although it can be), but definitely not great either. And it's not like "lackluster art" is an uncommon complaint among Hunter x Hunter manga readers - I've encountered quite a few topics discussing that.
metamorphiusMar 10, 2013 5:01 AM
Mar 10, 2013 5:00 AM

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shiranui51 said:
Ducat_Revel said:


As for Hunter x Hunter's manga, I think it's unremarkable. It had some decent moments, but because of the lack-luster art, the stretched arcs, the numerous hiatuses, and the gradual loss of identity, the manga isn't great enough or bad enough to be on either lists.

wow lackluster art ? I think the art is amazing ! the quantity of details is just average but the quality is great and unique !


Have you and I been reading the same manga? Remember the Chimera Ant arc? The pages and drawings were so sketchy it was criminal! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NeHSZGS_hkU/TmOdyl36YrI/AAAAAAAAB90/GzNARSkngeQ/004.png?imgmax=2000

Look at that! There is a quality level for serialized manga that Togashi wasn't meeting.
Mar 10, 2013 6:04 AM

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Ducat_Revel said:


Have you and I been reading the same manga? Remember the Chimera Ant arc? The pages and drawings were so sketchy it was criminal! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NeHSZGS_hkU/TmOdyl36YrI/AAAAAAAAB90/GzNARSkngeQ/004.png?imgmax=2000

Look at that! There is a quality level for serialized manga that Togashi wasn't meeting.

Well it's true that the Chimera Ant arc was started with sketchy art, but after that he made fine drawings, and often ( not in this picture obviously ) the art is intentionally sketchy. I may be biased about the art, I particularly like it.
Mar 10, 2013 6:13 AM

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Intentionally sketchy? That's an odd trick to pull. What was it trying to achieve? I loved reading Hunter x Hunter at first, and even when the arc dragged for too long, I still stood by it (the first arc and the Yorknew arc are still my favorite arcs). But once it hit Greed Island, the art started slipping and the experience wasn't the same again. I stopped somewhere in the Chimera Ant arc because the art got to me that badly. And I don't think this is a preferential thing either. It just looks bad. It's not even style. It's just a painful to look at.
Mar 10, 2013 6:43 AM

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metamorphius said:
. It's not bad (although it can be),


It looks like he just didn't care what it looked like.

I just gotten into HxH, I started reading the manga and the 2011 anime.
The manga art is good, but I've seen better.

Since I've just got into it I can't really give it a fair judgement, so here's hoping it gets better.
Mar 10, 2013 7:19 AM

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about the art : no problem It was just my personal opinion, I know that a lot of persons dislike Yoshihiro Togashi art style

note : - it look better on paper than online ( edition Kana for me )
- the start of the chimera ant arc wasn't good
Mar 10, 2013 10:30 AM

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Shit, I thought this was the anime and I don't believe I can cancel my vote. What I hear from readers is that it's one of the best shounen manga. Also, if it's similar to the anime, it's good.
(voted 1 btw)
Mar 10, 2013 1:19 PM

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Enlightenment list because of the good character devlopment, amazing work on the Nen system and overall quality of writing in regards to world building, battles, etc.
And while I do agree that his art is interesting, I wouldn't say it is outstanding. If he actually decides to draw for real, that is.
Jojolion anime when?
Mar 11, 2013 4:59 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Enlightenment list because of the good character devlopment, amazing work on the Nen system and overall quality of writing in regards to world building, battles, etc.
And while I do agree that his art is interesting, I wouldn't say it is outstanding. If he actually decides to draw for real, that is.

Yeah, I think the same, I just chosen wrong words before
Mar 15, 2013 12:55 AM

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I would argue in favour of Hunter X Hunter being on the Enlightened List. It's basically the re-construction (for lack of a better word coming to mind) of shonen as a whole. While it does have missteps, it goes for the unconventional route for almost every trope it tackles and tends to excel at it. The most prominent example being the Yorknew Arc. Rather than having Kurapika eliminate the Troupe in a formulaic and explicit fashion, he meticuously tries to kill them with precision, patience and caution. Managing only to kill 2 of the members by the end of the arc before safely warding them off rather than letting his obssession for revenge get the better of him. This is further reinforced by the fact that he eliminated the strongest member of the Troupe with ease, essentially putting him in 'check' with the Troupe, but restrained himself to avoid irrational decisions which could've killed him. A revenge story where pragmatism and tension take priority over direct violence and vengeance that isn't satiated in one go. That, along with all the other unorthodox roads HxH takes throughout the course of the story make it a suspenseful and engaging shonen that stands above most.
Mar 15, 2013 2:54 AM

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The earlier arcs like Yorknew are definitely worthy and well made, but stuff like Greed Island and Chimera Ant really bring the manga down. There's a quality inconsistency with this manga regarding it's plot and art. Unless someone can tell me that the later arcs are on the same level as Yorknew, I'm still not convinced.

By the way, there are only 3 votes for Enlightenment, and 1 vote for Unremarkable. When this poll ends, will that be enough to induct it?
Mar 16, 2013 10:49 AM

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Art aside, reading some plot points on the Chimera Ant arc, it sounds kind of interesting with the elements of Luddites, new sentient races, human farming for Nen and livestock and whatnot, but again I'd have to read into it. The actual placement of the arc within the entire story adds some depth to it as well, with this esoteric, superpower, world-ending plan not being the climax, reinforcing the unorthodox and almost parody-like nature of the series. Coupled with the mild ending to such an ambitious villain is certainly interesting. Guess I'll have to wait and see how it plays out in the anime for a better assessment.
Mar 20, 2013 7:20 AM

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Equal votes, huh? In this case I would ask the other mods if there is any opposition for this series. If not, I shall proceed to add the manga to the Enlightenment list.
Jojolion anime when?
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