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| I agree with Janus382 in saying that "As for Roberta... I'm glad she ended up butchered, in a way. She's played out, imo. She can't top what she did in the OVA... so any future appearance of her would seem somewhat lame, in comparison." But I also believe they wouldn't do such a thing without an author's consent in someway or another. I don't think Madhouse would just randomly butcher a character like her without reason. I highly doubt that she will appear again in the manga since there would be no way for her to top what she did in Roberta's Blood Trail. I mean this arc lasted 30+ chapters in the manga, and over half of the manga was dedicated to her already including her first appearance. Black Lagoon isn't one to stray much from the original story after reading the manga and watching the anime entirely. Of course some things are omitted at times, but that happens a lot more frequently in other works than Madhouse produces. Madhouse isn't one to stray far from the original story without a meaning, if you look at other works they did such as Hellsing Ultimate, Monster, and Hajime no Ippo; they produce works very closely to the that of the original. Though I do agree with the above poster in saying, Claymore's ending was quite awful. In my opinion though, it's somewhat good she was injured more than she was in the manga, makes her seem more human; even if she is a damn monster on the battlefield. A monster will in time get some battle scars. |
VitaXAug 6, 2011 5:58 PM
| Did anyone else notice that foreshadowing, complete with wish and shooting star in the background, when Balalaika said that she wanted the opportunity to face off against the American forces? I think we will see that in BL chapters to come. |
| This episode was terrible to me. All that action and badassness just to come to such a mediocre end? No. I didn't like it personally. I mean, am I missing something here? Some huge picture that's supposed to make me go "man, that ending didn't suck after all!"? My disappointment could be from waiting weeks for this episode to come out and then more time for it to get subbed but hey man, tough titty. I did not like it. Anyway. Well, all in all the OVA was great (minus this episode) and I'd give it a 10/10 if it wasn't for this ep, but I think i'll give it a 7. |
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| What was that creepy song at the end? :< |
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| The jungle fight was awesome~~ Well i for one liked the ending quite a lot ;\ Hopefully this is the last we'll see of Roberta, i don't like her even though shes a badass.. So Garcia did have a crush on her ><. Though i am disappointed that she was just let to be at the mansion after all the slaughtering she did, all is forgiven huh? Revy's past :\ no wonder she turned out that way XD *fingers crossed for a sequel* |
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| Frankly, I thought it was a great decision to change the end of the battle. Roberta being a ridiculously powerful character who is apparently unkillable just never in the slightest sit well with me. I mean, yes, there were things throughout the series that weren't realistic but the Roberta arc in the first season REALLY stood out to me in contrast to the rest of the series. Plus, in case no one noticed, she is going against a much more trained enemy now and has been getting shot up throughout the OVA so....it isn't all that surprising. But, to talk about the OVA in general, like I said I was not a fan of the first Roberta arc but this REALLY worked for me. Part of it is the incite into pretty much every major character, except for the eternally shafted Benny and Dutch (actually a bit of their pasts were revealed I do believe). Also, the character development for Rock after his trip to Japan is very believable and seems like the natural course for things to go. Of course, seeing a bit of Revy's past was great as well and the Eda sub plot is incredibly interesting. In any case, I give this a 9 for now. Probably the best part of Black Lagoon thus far. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I really liked it because it was a realistic ending. Rock thought he had all the cards in his hand but he didn't take in mind that the higher-ups had motives and incentives to keep illegal activity going. Corruption is like a plague, either you burn it all in one go or you won't make a difference at all. Hard lesson Rock learned from that arc. |
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| so the ending was confusing and I get that roberta got butchered. But please, did anyone notice the cigarette scene at the end get animated COMPLETELY terribly? If not, take a look at it again, look at how its placed in rocks hand, and the moment revy takes it, it miraculously flips over. not that its a big deal, just seems like laziness for an ova. |
| Most of the time I was confused because I couldn't remember what happened in the previous OVAs so I still have no clue what was Rock's plan and the bet he was making. Even though Rock was extremely out of character, I loved him all badass like that. I also extremely loved the peak into Revy's past. 8/10 for beautiful beautiful violence!! Hope for more Black Lagoon in the future. |
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| Finally decided to watch these OVAs myself. I was trying to wait for the dub but at this point who knows how long that could take. I loved the OVAs but at this point there's nothing they could do to make not like anything Black Lagoon related. Though I am glad to see we're done with Roberta so we can get to some of the good stuff they were talking about during like the stuff with Eda and Mr. Chang. Now I'm just sad because I'm not going to be able to watch any new Black Lagoon related anime for a looooooooooooooooooong time. I think I could have held off watching these for even longer. |
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| One of the best episodes of the show. I enjoyed the jungle battle as well as the ending. Somehow it felt appropriate and much more realistic than many other episodes. It was also pretty well done how Roberta had a much harder time against a trained and lethal enemy. My only complain about this episode was how Rock did act out of character. It didn't feel like Rock, at least for a moment there. I don't think he has actually changed, and the whole gamble was believable in my eyes, but the way he acted it just didn't feel right. In the end it was a pretty good OVA, up there with both seasons. |
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| I didn't quite get it huh, but it had pretty badass moments. Not entirely pleased, though. I give these OVAs a 7/10 |
| i think it was really good, but just feel sad that again Rock is hated in the end.. ( i thought he was gonna be the cool one since in the ending part of each OVA there images Mr. Chang, Balalaika and Rock are showed with cigarettes well if you seen it you will know what i mean xP) and in the last part too.. Was that Lt. Shane working as Lovelace's Gardener? maybe bodyguard too..i like how that turned out >_> still not sure if it was him in the end together with the Japanese electrical worker's son and wife . But really amazing this show! |
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| Completely dissapointed. I haven't understand anything.. And something tells me that there is nothing to understand. But I'm totally unsatisfied.. Chang plans are pointless.. Rock plans are pointless. I think that even ending where Roberta just kills all soldiers and this major and returns back unharmed would be better.. 6/10 |
| I was kind of disappointed. Wow Roberta got fucked up. She wouldn't have made it home to serve anyone tea. I hate what Rock has become these past few episodes. |
GarLogan78 said: If you're wondering, this arc plays out very different in the manga.I was kind of disappointed. Wow Roberta got fucked up. She wouldn't have made it home to serve anyone tea. I hate what Rock has become these past few episodes. |
notsureifsrs said: GarLogan78 said: If you're wondering, this arc plays out very different in the manga.I was kind of disappointed. Wow Roberta got fucked up. She wouldn't have made it home to serve anyone tea. I hate what Rock has become these past few episodes. I think I saw your post elsewhere, but would you mind saying again what happened in the manga? |
| Sad ending really. Nothing changes in Roanapur and Roberta is so severely hurt that she'll be using a wheelchair the rest of her life. Rock sure was different though. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| NOOOOOOO It pains my heart to see Roberta in that condition ;_; God dammit WHY.jpg Badass Rock is badass though. Living in Roanapur would change ANY man |
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| I fail to see the reasoning behind being disappointed by Rocks behavior. What exactly makes many of you here to think ill of him or rather "I don't like him any more"? He did not change at all. His plan, how of a longshot it was, actually succeeded, however the upper parties involved in this have had outplayed him in the end, but thats not the point. He succeeded with minimal to no losses: -- Mayor and his squad had a mission which they would "never abandon" and most of them survived -- Levy lightly wounded but alive -- Dutch and Havana-shirt-guy had been kept out of danger -- Roberta survived -- Little maid-bitch survived as well -- Few Roannapour thugs and punks got killed..boohoo Taking that into account Rock is pretty awesome. And the fact that Levy had kicked him is way less dramatic than some people here mention. My guess would be she got pissed off by the "I will save everyone" (which includes her and we all know how Levy reacts to care) followed by the "now I know how you feel" which means to her something like: Rock becomes himself the next day and she does not. Simple as that. Awesome series by the way. Shame there was no drunken sex between Levy and Rock. |
| Loved the ova series ,terminator Roberta rules also we finally saw the consequences of living in Roanapur on Rock and how that changed him ,and I'm also disapointed that the anime studio masacred Roberta at the end in the manga she looks perfectly fine and that means if Rei ever picks up BL again he may bring her back :D |
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| didnt read the manga so im not sure why people are dissapointed i liked the ending and im looking forward for more episodes |
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| Episode was alright I guess, episode 3 was my favorite in the OVA. But how come Roberta lost her left arm? The Eye, fingers and foot I saw but she was using the left arm just fine before the credits started rolling. Did the American commander sever it off screen to force her surrender or something? |
julio55555 said: I didn't understand that ending with Roberta and the picture though, I had no idea who those people were. That was the family of a guy roberta killed long ago you know that guy who was appearing in robertas hallucinations. |
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| I still have many open questions... Hopefully there'll be a third season that shines some light on various things, such as Revy's past. It'd be also fun to see some development in the relationship between Rock and Revy, it's so marginal atm. Although it shouldn't become a romance thing, just wanna see more action there. ^_^ |
| action scenes were badass other than that... meh |
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| I actually like Rock the way he was there, even though it was only for a brief period of time. I actually really liked the OVA. The only thing that disappointed me was the fact that Roberta did not die in her battle but ended up a cripple for the rest of her life. Maybe Garcia and Roberta herself will be happy with that ending, but I can't see how a true soldier/killer like Roberta should live like that. I personally think she should have gone down gloriously on her own battlefield, even though she went full crazy out there. The OVA also explored the character's personalities some more, so overall: 9/10 |
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| amazing stuff O__O though i have alot of mixed feelings so here it goes. first it seems Garcia and Fabiola are getting some moments all along. yay we get to see Revy's past!!!! i definitely can understand why she's angry towards family relations etc. it's definitely not a good picture burned in her memory. Classic Roberta Maid Outfit!!!!!! Garcia vs Roberta moment was intense!!!!! the kiss with roberta was beautiful ^^ i was surprise fabiola didn't get jealous or something. im glad Revy and Fabiloa kick rock's ass. this idiot think he can just do what he wants all of a sudden. Kohei_no_kimi said: Too be honest, I really enjoyed the OAV ending, much more than the manga's for several reasons : - It gave more credit to the Grey Fox ( and by extension to Balalaika's soldiers since they could keep up with them ) Even if Roberta was such an exceptional fighter, the Grey Fox were a special military unit, it didn't make much sense to have them defeated that easily in the manga by one single woman. - I still think that they went too far in butchering Roberta but it was more « Black Lagoon-like », you know... plenty of action with a sudden depressing ending like with the twins and the yakuza girl. - And more importantly the OVA ending set things straight between Rock and Revy. I don't know what was possessing Rock all along but he spent the arc playing the bad boy, playing people, bullying kids and everything just worked out fine for him in the manga with him not even realizing how lucky he had been ( I mean who knows what Balalaika 'd have done to the Grey Fox if Caxton hadn't won her respect, for example ). Revy was too much passive in front of Rock for my taste ( the scene with Rock laying in her own bed like some badass dandy while she was staring down in the shower was just horrible ). It suddenly was like Revy was Rock's underlying, her leg had been sliced open in the Japan's arc and now she got shot twice for the sake of Rock's plan ? WTH ?! It was the right thing to do to support Rock in front of Fabiola, since she was just an outsider, but Revy actually never brought Rock back to Earth in the manga. I completely enjoyed that in the OVA, Revy finally woke up from her daze to give Rock a lesson and somehow reminded him that she was his guide in Roanapura and not the other way around. agree, still it was too much for them to make Roberta like that. yeah rock was acting like an ass and minding everyone's business. he should have stayed in japan tbh with you. i hate that douche, in the first episode he was soo scared and scar'd and doesn't want nothing to do with this, then all of a sudden he's enjoying this laughing like stupid clown who think's he's gonna win this. just as Chang said, hypocrites are the worst kind. as the other's said, the Major went all over and find the family of the engineer Roberta killed in this past episodes. i hope the Major and Garcia/Roberta are in good terms now, he doesn't look like he's working with them, but it's good for them to visit from time to time. i feel sorry for Roberta, i mean she is definitely scar'd for life, still i think she had enough of her battles CyborgNinja said: Turjake said: They did not change the ending of her arc at all. The extra pages where she is shown in wheelchair weren't in the monthly chapters but added when the volume was released. Which is the reason they aren't in the scanlations. Just to clarify, it is true that there were extra pages in the tankobon release of volume 9 of the manga that weren't in the magazine, but they didn't show Roberta in that pitiful state (at least she looked pretty unharmed to me). Here is what I'm talking about: Anyway, I pretty much liked the way the producers animated this arc, and although they had to remove some scenes, they weren't crucial to the story. The only thing I found disappointing was the fact that they literally butchered Roberta at the end. I understand that they wanted to make Roberta seem less indestructible than in the manga and show us that even she can take damage, but I think they went too far. i actually like this change, i mean yes Roberta is a killing machine, but she is still human after all, still i agree with others that they could have toned down a bit by not letting her lose one of her limbs, fingers, just the eye and scrape all over her body is good enough. AICW said: The conversations between Eda and her CIA boss, Rock and Revy, and Rock and Dutch at the end are absent from the manga. Unfortunately, the manga's conversation between Rock and Mr. Chang is missing. (The people at the ending are the family of the Japanese man Roberta killed years ago, the man she kept on hallucinating. Apparently Major Caxton went to find them and brought them to the Lovelace household.) such a shame it didn't get animated :( there seem to be a good amount of information they had discussed. though it was only 5 episode so im guessing they needed at least 2-3 more to fully convert it. Xagzan said: Well, with any luck Funimation could do an alternate ending when they get to the dub YUCK YUCK YUCK YUUUUUUUUUUCK get that funi shit out of here. stick to localizing and don't bother changing things up. it's a shame they change a good amount on this, still amazing episode. only disappointing is that we didn't get to see Eda(and her group) Yolanda, Balalika had little role in the end(though the last one was amazing) Revy and Black Lagoon was mostly on the sidelines on this, but it's fine since we were able to spend time with other characters outside of Lagoon. definitely became one of my favorites, i really love the story, watch season 1+2 last week and finish Omake and Roberta's Blood Trail in one go. amazing stuff, guess if i want another Black Lagoon anime/manga(damn it why the hiatus T___T) i could always watch Gunslinger Girl, Jormungand, or even rewatch Hellsing Ultimate since it's been awhile since i last watched one(stuck at Ep 7) please Season 3 with this kind of animation and quality!!!!!!!!!! see you next time Roanapur!!!!! 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SomaHeirAug 16, 2012 2:34 PM
| well this ova's where really good to me even to think i didn't understand some parts or actualy many in some way it made me keep paying atention so they thit a great job for me. some say they didn't like roberta to get so ****ed up but actualy it was all good since she deserved it and make it more realistic only a normal human wouldn't survive her wounds. also she stil got some one who loves her and in the end you see the family of the japenese man who she kilt and halusinated about so in other words they came to forgive or something like that she had a normal life back only whit out one arm a few fingers and a eye. private108 said: I havn't read the Manga, but the episode's / OVA's were very good in my opinion. Did get confused sometimes, but after re-thinking it made quite some sense. As for Rock... In the 2nd season the Japanese girl told him certain stuffs, about him beeing in the twilight and such, if I can remember correctly. Also, I think she said things like Rock beeing too kind / nice and things like that, and that the things he did for work did not suit him at all. (The maffia / drug and etc things) Although I am not sure if that's exactly what she said, I should rewatch season 2 for that, but I can't be bothered at the moment. Eitherway.. I think because of what I listed above, the reason for Rock's behaviour in these OVA's was because of the end of season 2. Rock is a nice and good person at heart, but I think he realized that he had to become the bad guy in order to achieve his goal. He had to sacrifice his good personality and endure the killing and such in order to make his plan come to work, and that was to make Roanaprur (or whatever the name was.. bad at remembering names <__<) a safer and better place. Unfortunately, it did not work at a scale he had desired for, eventhough how noble his goal/cause was. (That's the way how I see it atleast, because what evil or bad person would want to make a city become a better place?) The reason I think why he still acted bad-ass towards Revy in the end was probably cause he might have thought Revy understood his intentions. And might have thought she would be happy because of it. But she didn't understand his motivation / objective and such, probably, and thus getting pissed off on him. This is the way of how I think/see for what reason Rock decided to become 'bad'. Just felt like saying how I understood the ending and progress of these 5 OVA's. And since I got no one else to discuss it with, I just had to post a comment and share my thoughts about the OVA's / ending with you guys and girls. Also, My apologies for any amazingly lame grammar fails and such. Did my best to make it 'understand able'. thanks alot that certainly made sense to me now i think i can understand the parts that i didn't understand at all |
RobertovkDec 21, 2013 7:23 AM
| "When a flat-chested loli hugs you, she holds you closer to her heart" "--I am a single bullet. It has no heart. Therefore, it does not think. It just flies straight towards its target."  |
| Roberto get nearly killed here... I know that it's more impressive to put a lot of blood, but how many bullets did she take ? |
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| Tbh, I didn't really like these OVA episodes. I thought it would be a bit better when Roberta first debuted in season 1. Oh well. Not much else to say here really and was looking forward to a big rematch duel in these episodes between Roberta and Revy again. Didn't happen so... 7/10. I'll just be generous here as I'm a fan of Black Lagoon. |
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| I give it i guess a 7/10. First time i liked that hypocritical pussy Rock. He should play the bad guy role much. |
| I'm angry at myself for watching these ovas. This was an eyesore. I don't remember Black Lagoon being a mecha show, but all i saw in season 3 was an immortal cyborg running around killing proffesional soldiers with a musket. Thank God it's over. |
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| This episode is great :] it change my mind 8/10 into 9/10 but still...I hope they make a season 3 there are some question I didn't understand or missing in the story.... Note : I didn't impressed to rock T_T feels liked I have high expectations from him but it didn't achieved... |
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| Awesome , animation was win and wow at the end Roberta was a mess . Anyway 10.10 entertaining OVAs |
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| this was soo boring too much talking, too much trying to look badass... |
| Actually I think the ending is very fitting for series, there is always someone lost and things go on as they used to. In the end no one is really saved or anything major is achieved... I think Revy just like to take her own frustration on Rocky. She can't really express them in otherways, part of it might be disagreement of what he does. But main thing is her own state... I quite like Rocky being mastermind schemer, he needs to have some power even if he don't make it. I would get rather bored if he didn't have the means, for his goals and just was passively dragged around. |
nintendont said: Anyone else regret watching this? It was fantastic but god damn...it's depressing to think there probably will never be more Black Lagoon. Same here man, I should've stopped at season 2... Revy scenes in Ep. 5 hit me right in the damn feels... |
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