Dubs you did not like

Aug 11, 2009 10:09 AM

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i really couldn't stand Gon in HunterXHunter Kitsune in love hina was bad too

Aug 20, 2009 10:18 PM

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Akira (Streamline) -- There are fans who got into Anime by seeing this first dub, but I personally found it very alienating. Not only is the script incomprehensible, the acting is worse, and the voices are so bad that they ruined everything for me. There are fans who have argued about how this dub fits Katsuhiro Otomo's masterwork, but I just can't stand this version. In fact, it temporarily turned me off from Anime for a while (partially because I was shocked at how violent this movie is--disturbingly so since I was thirteen at the time and a rather squeamish viewer.) Pioneer's dub is a far better effort, done with a lot more care and time, and more importantly the story makes sense.

Laputa (Streamline) -- No, this isn't the Disney version I'm talking about; this is a previous dub distributed by Streamline. I've seen praise about this dub, saying that it's better than Disney's, but I did not have the same freeling. Unnatural sounding vocals, robotic voice acting, and even more choppy dialogue (with lines that, more often than not, sound completely bizarre). To anyone who is a fan of this older dub, I'm sorry but there was nothing about it that I found "better" than the current dub. Nor do I feel it does this movie any justice, even though it doesn't have the sometimes overdone extra dialogue or rescore (the latter which I liked immensely). I'd rather hear Disney's version than this dreadfully boring dub ever again (in all fairness, this version DOES preserve the last part of Sheeta's speech, but the overall 80's dub just isn't good enough otherwise).

Love Hina -- Part of my disliking for this dub has to do with the show, as I don't find anything funny about seeing some poor guy getting beaten the hell out of by some mean-spirited girls. The accents were also out of place, and the script adaptation felt very off in a way that wasn't true overall to the original (even Disney's dubs for Kiki and Laputa, while not word-for-word, still maintained the spirits of the originals). I don't remember being particularly captivated by the performances either, so you won't be missing much if you pass this dub.

Demon City Shinjuku -- It's as cheesy as the title sounds, but having various accents on Japanese characters makes it even more laughable. It does work in the case of Sayaka, but for the others it feels very out of place. The dialogue doesn't do much to enhance things, either; there's lots of swearing, and some lines that are so bizarre that they are laughable such as "Like f*** I will!" and "I'm gonna tear his head off and shove it up his a**."

M.D. Geist -- No, it's not on this list because its initials stand for "most dangerous", but because it's just simply awful, hands down. Honestly, I can't remember anything about this dub that left me entertained.

The Cat Returns -- It's not a bad dub at all, but I think it's one of the more overrated Disney-Ghibli dubs. Part of it comes from my dislike of the film, which is weaker than many of the studio's better efforts, but another factor comes from Anne Hathaway as the lead; granted she's supposed to be whiny, but she overdoes it too much. The fact that it's not as memorable as other Ghibli dubs is also detrimental.

Animal Treasure Island -- An early 1970's attempt, this Fred Ladd-Titan Productions collaboration is hampered considerably by the obviously female-sounding, unconvincing vocalization of the young hero Jim Hawkin. I find boys sounding obviously feminine far more distracting than giving them a slightly mature sounding voice. (That was a problem I had with Streamline's Laputa concerning Pazu.) The rest of the cast barely impressed me either.

Vampire Hunter D (1985) -- While I am not one of the avid Streamline dub haters, I cannot say that this one impressed me. Doris and Lamika's are OK, but the rest range from mediocre to bad, with the worst offense being Dan; he sounds nothing at all like a young boy, even when being voiced by a female. (Oddly enough, he's played by the same actress who thought she could make Sheeta in the old Laputa sound cute by raising her voice to an unnaturally high pitch.)

Roujin Z -- How Anime News Network even gave this a passing grade is totally beyond me. Produced by the same guys who did the Shinjuku dub, this is an alternatingly shrill, overacted, cheesy, overly profane, cringeworthy stinker of an English track. The flat sound mixing is also a problem. The only reason I ever laughed during this dub was merely because of how pathetic the whole thing was instead of being genuinely entertained by it.

Macross II -- I don't remember this dub pretty well, but I haven't heard kind things about it. Since no particular voice stayed with me after a while, it's probably just as well. It's a forgettable dub.

The Sky Crawlers -- It's not a bad dub by any means; the voices are OK, but the dalogue isn't very emotional. In fact, it's pretty deadpan and emotionless. Maybe that's the way the film is, but that doesn't make for an entertaining listen to my ears. That the film itself is not very lively or engaging is another problem.

It is very seldom that I dislike dubs, but these are among the ones that I find particularly awful.
-Jon T.

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Aug 23, 2009 1:04 PM

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The other day I saw the first episode of Buso Renkin on the Funimation Channel. The only thing I could think was, "I had no idea they still made dubs this bad." I'm going to try and work up my courage to watch one of the episodes with Papillon (Spike Spencer's character) in it, because I'm a big fan of his, but I don't know if even he can save that trainwreck.

Aug 28, 2009 9:53 PM

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JTurner said:

Roujin Z -- How Anime News Network even gave this a passing grade is totally beyond me. Produced by the same guys who did the Shinjuku dub, this is an alternatingly shrill, overacted, cheesy, overly profane, cringeworthy stinker of an English track. The flat sound mixing is also a problem. The only reason I ever laughed during this dub was merely because of how pathetic the whole thing was instead of being genuinely entertained by it.

The best part is Justin Sevakis basically praises the dub and says as long as your not a purist you will probally like it, as it's funny and very well acted. But then he says to stay far away from the Patlabor and Shingu dubs!! WTF? Apparently he is hearing things I am not. The guy has good taste in anime, but damn he should get his ears checked or something... Shingu is an amazing dub and Patlabor is ok, esecially the OVA series where the overall quality really picked up! Ok so it's not NY's best, but come on now nothing wrong with it. But Roujin Z while maybe passable for the early 90's (barely), does not stand up well today at all. It's a real mess. It's almost entirely bad from start to finish. Not the worst dub ever or anything, but damn that could have been much better then it was. Shame becuase I love the "A Wind Named Amnesia" dub from Manga UK and "Dominion Tank Police" was good as well. What the hell happened there?

Aug 30, 2009 9:09 PM

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gatotsu911 said:
The other day I saw the first episode of Buso Renkin on the Funimation Channel. The only thing I could think was, "I had no idea they still made dubs this bad." I'm going to try and work up my courage to watch one of the episodes with Papillon (Spike Spencer's character) in it, because I'm a big fan of his, but I don't know if even he can save that trainwreck.

I actually have Buso Renkin on dvd and heard the first 13 episodes. I don't think it's really bad. I mean some voices didn't sound likeable on a personal note and lip-syncing here and there seemed off, but I guess I'm right now more focused on simply enjoying the show as oppose to critiquing it.

Though I don't feel Spencer did a bad job as Papillon considering it's a contrast from his usual frail teeange boy roles. Not to mention in the audio commentary and behind-the-scenes thing, Spike really did have fun with that character.

Aug 31, 2009 1:36 AM

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Hypeathon said:

I loved the English DUB of Buso Renkin myself :).

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Sep 7, 2009 1:10 PM

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Seishi said:
Rurouni Kenshin always stands out for me. Very flat...not sure what else to say. I feel bad for the people who "grew up" watching it on TV, but they probably just got used to it.

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Anything made by 4kids.

This x100 (with the exception of Shaman King :3)

Agreed. Shaman King is just so much more cartoony and fun in the 4kids version. Then again, I'm biased since that was my first anime (not counting a few episodes of pokemon when I was little).

Fushigi Yuugi didn't click with me. They all sounded too...stereotypical of what they were portraying. It reminded me of Sailor Moon, for some reason, only several times worse.

Sep 7, 2009 1:27 PM

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Selinea said:

Seishi said:
Rurouni Kenshin always stands out for me. Very flat...not sure what else to say. I feel bad for the people who "grew up" watching it on TV, but they probably just got used to it.

The first episode of Kenshin was a little weird, so I tried switching to the original, and that, in my opinion, was worse, so I had to switch back to the dubs for the rest of the series. It really is something that you just kind of get used to.

...

Fushigi Yuugi didn't click with me. They all sounded too...stereotypical of what they were portraying. It reminded me of Sailor Moon, for some reason, only several times worse.

Yeah, I have never, ever understood why people like the Rurouni Kenshin dub so much, apart from the fact that they grew up with it on Toonami (God rest its soul). Sure, it has some big-name voice actors, but the fact of the matter is it's flat, unemotional, and the actors clearly struggle to pronounce all the Japanese names. Of course, the Japanese dub also makes the laughably ill-conceived move of casting Kenshin as a woman, so if you're watching the show it's really a question of picking the lesser of two evils.

Also, I still need to see Fushigi Yugi, in no small part because it co-stars David "Metal GEAR!?" Hayter.

Sep 7, 2009 9:34 PM

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I'll let Rurouni Kenshin slide on this one simply because those words were insane to pronounce!!

I still don't know what half of the damn moves are called especially that one Armanashjbadsfp89eqwfbjkl that Kenshin used against Shishio. Apparently, it was bad ass, though. lol.

I wouldn't be able to focus on any of my emotions either if I saw that line coming up in the script. haha. I'll let them pass because there's no way I could've done it.

Sep 9, 2009 11:31 PM

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Green Green- not only is the anime bad, but the dub was just the worst
One Piece(4kids version)- many know what I am talking about
Yu-gi-oh GX- Can't even call them voice actors. Not that much emotion.

Also, the guy who voiced for Rin in Shuffle!. Everyone else was at least decent but he just sucked.

Sep 19, 2009 7:41 PM

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Jyu Oh Sei = Worst Dub EVER

Sep 29, 2009 7:55 PM

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Jyu Oh Sei = Worst Dub EVER

I must disagree with you on that, it's one of the best dubs I've ever seen.

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Sep 29, 2009 8:21 PM

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Gundam 00

I watched it subbed the first time through and thanks to the syfy channel *or what ever they call themselves now* I got to watch the dub, I made it through the first two episodes before I stopped watching.

Sep 29, 2009 8:48 PM

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Shuffle!

Oct 1, 2009 3:27 PM

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W_K said:
Gundam 00

I watched it subbed the first time through and thanks to the syfy channel *or what ever they call themselves now* I got to watch the dub, I made it through the first two episodes before I stopped watching.

Probally because the show was realy bad. It's only redeeming quailty was the dub, which was pretty good :P .

Oct 5, 2009 12:57 AM

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Overall, I'm a pretty big fan of dubs. However, after watching 30-something episodes of D. Gray-man subbed, I listened to the dubbed version they're coming out with. OMFG! They screwed it up so bad! Allen sounds WAY older than his Japanese counterpart and it doesn't suit him. And Travis Willingham is voicing Kanda. Roy Mustang =/= Kanda!!!
The pronunciation is alsoinfuriating. It's "akuma", not "a-KOOO-MA", "Mugen", not "MYOOO-gin." *sigh* I could go on and on... It's especially heartbreaking because I'm so in love with D. Gray-man right now. :(

Oct 5, 2009 11:28 PM

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Well then, I am really glad I never watched any of D.Gray-man subbed cause the dub sounds fine to me...

Then again, credibility starts getting shaky when people start arguing about word pronunciation between 2 different languages...

Oct 6, 2009 12:34 AM

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Ihatesourkraut said:
Shuffle!

is one of the best english dubs ever.

Dubs I have problems with:
Love Hina - 15 minutes in and my ears were bleeding.
D.Gray-Man - My problem here was that I couldn't really handle hearing Itsuki's (Shuffle!) voice on Allen...Those characters are just too different. And Kanda sounded wrong as hell. Travis Willingham is great, but not on Kanda...
Naruto - Naruto is really annoying when he yells, which is a lot. Other than that, I think it's actually rather good.
Yu-Gi-Oh - This was more a problem with translation/localization than the voice acting. I felt the actors did a pretty good job (As soon as Tristen/Honda got a new voice, of course), but 4Kids screwed with things too much and so the english version was notably inferior.
One Piece - Oh, don't get me started.
Ah! My Goddess movie - Having different voices from the series is bad.

Can't think of any others at the moment.

Oct 8, 2009 3:17 PM

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Redfoxoffire said:

Ihatesourkraut said:
Shuffle!

Which English Dub of One Piece? FUNimation's?

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Oct 11, 2009 12:52 PM

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regarding the shuffle and d-gray man dubs:

Shuffle's dub isn't that bad! I didn't like it at first I'll admit, but it did grew on my a bit in the end. Even though it's alright, I'm still not impressed with Caitlin Glass as nerine, her voice doesn't fit her at all! Also, Carrie Savage made Kaede sound like a preschooler! That's all i have to say regarding it, it's not too bad, but it's definitely not one of funimation's best.

Same goes for D-gray man. I was stoked to know that Todd Haberkorn is going to play alan, but when i heard his voice i was like,"what the hell was that?" As much as i like Travis Willingham, he was beyond miss-casted as Kanda! Still some of the other voices were good ( lenalee and lavi for example ).

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Oct 20, 2009 4:41 PM

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Crest/Banner of the Stars. A superb series, and again a cardboard dub.

This. ^

I'd also like to throw in Steamboy. Being from the UK myself, the majority of the accents attempted really grated on me. Patrick Stewart was wonderful, of course, but Anna Paquin was just awful in the lead role. She couldn't really hold a decent Manchester accent - at times Ray's voice seemingly did a regional tour of Britain within the space of a few sentences! Haven't watched it for a while, but I'm sure Anna turned in a much better performance for the Castle in the Sky dub.

Was watching the Read or Die OVA around the same time, and in comparison, that had some better British accents carried off nicely by Crispin Freeman et al.

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Oct 21, 2009 11:09 AM

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Haven't watched it for a while, but I'm sure Anna turned in a much better performance for the Castle in the Sky dub.

Her performance in that film certainly outclasses her work in Steamboy, although her Sheeta sometimes does fluctuate between different accents. I think that works in her character's favor however. I do think that the Castle in the Sky dub is better than what naysayers give credit for, and while Paquin's Sheeta may be at the short end of the stick compared to the rest of the cast, she is superior to the cast of the original English dub of this film, where virtually NOBODY sounded like they were in character.

Oct 23, 2009 3:36 PM

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D Gray Man - Allen sounded like he had some nasal problems and Kanda was just a WTF for me. Both sounded so out of place. Worst dub ever in my opinion.

Oct 28, 2009 5:41 PM

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D Gray Man : I have only watched the first episode but I found nothing at all wrong with it. Surely it is not worthy of all this hate.

Oct 29, 2009 9:59 PM

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I haven't seen it myself, but I heard the Karin dub was God-awful, this coming from my brother who watches anime in English regardless of how bad it is because he hates reading that much.

Oct 31, 2009 4:19 PM

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In addition to what I listed in my previous post...

Saiyuki Reload. The reason I didn't continue watching Saiyuki was because of the dub. Anybody who thinks that that replacing a superb cast with new people could turn out better must be crazy. (The new art style was annoying too.)

Nov 4, 2009 4:35 PM

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... Ichigo Mashimaro. The American actors just sound too... forced. They don't sound cute at all! DX

That's the only one I really couldn't tolerate too long... ^^;;

Thanks to Shiro-chan for scripting! ♥

Nov 30, 2009 2:32 AM

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I just heard the English dub for Green Green. It rivals Love Hina for my choice of worst dubbing ever. Not only were the voices annoying and the acting generally bad, they raped the Japanese language. They pronounce Yusuke as Yoo-soo-kay. That's just awful.

I also recently saw Maburaho. It was bearable but overall not that good.

Nov 30, 2009 8:25 PM

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End of Evangelion (The only two really good performances were Asuka "Tiffany Grant" and Misato "Alison Keith", the supporting characters were awful, Shinji "Spike Spencer" was lacking, and Rei "Amanda Winn Lee" was well... Rei. I also prefer that the director "Amanda Winn Lee" does not add in her own sound effects just because she thinks they are cool.)

Elfen Lied (It was just...meh.)

Higurasi No Naku Koro Ni (It took me a while to get used to this dub. There were two that were getting better as the dub went on, Keiichi "Grant George" and Shion "Megan Hollingshead." Other than that...meh.)

4-Kids (Pick one "besides the Pokemon dub")

Gantz (Some parts were "untentionly" funny)

Saikano (This dub is the bane of my existence. I don't want to go any further on this one.)

Dec 3, 2009 6:31 PM

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D. Gray-man - Allen's voice is horrible. Just horrible. And while I really love Kanda's VA, it's ill-fitting for his character.

Juuni Kokuki- Ugh, it's bad.

Naruto - Overall I consider it a good dub, it's just Naruto's voice I can't stand. I can't watch a dub if they've ruined the main character.

Dec 7, 2009 5:07 PM

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The ten worst dubs I've heard.

10. Akira (Pioneer): People who hated the original dub loved this version because it was a more accurate translation, pronounced the names correctly, and gave the characters voices from popular anime titles. Sorry, but those factors don't make a dub good. Kaneda and Kei are completely miscast, while Tetsuo is devoid of any emotion and menace. None of the performances here are memorable, they all sound like they were trying to cash in on the Akira name.

9. Mobile Suit Gundam Trilogy (Bandai): Normally, I don't mind if words are mispronounced in dubs. The Gundam films are an exception because the way "Gundam" is pronounced is just too hilarious. Bad pronunciations aside, the performances are pretty terrible in this dub. The standout is Bright Noa, who was given a ridiculous British accent.

8. Fist of the North Star (Manga): Streamline's cast for the Fist of the North Star film was near flawless. Manga's cast for the TV series, on the other hand, is incredibly dull and not very well acted. The removal of Kenshiro's trademark line "You're already dead" certainly didn't help matters.

7. The Fuma Conspiracy (AnimEigo): The Lupin III franchise has been licensed and dubbed by numerous companies. Of all the Lupin English casts, AnimEigo's is easily the worst. Zenigata is alright, but Lupin comes off as a nerd, Jigen sounds like he's in a terrible Hong Kong dub, Fujiko comes off as an airhead, and Goemon could have been better. I'll probably never know why no other company attempted to redub this, while Pioneer and Manga had no problem redubbing Streamline's competent versions of the Lupin films.

6. Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie (ADV): 4Kids' Sonic cast tends to take beating, especially from fans of the game's original English cast. But at least they were better than ADV's effort, which gave Sonic and Tails high pitched nasally voices that were instantly annoying.

5. Dragon Ball Z (Blue Water): Most people may associate Dragon Ball Z with Funimation, but it was Ocean Studios who originally provided the voices in the dub. Despite being replaced by Funimation for the remainder of the American broadcast, the Ocean actors would be used in Blue Water's international dub of the Cell and Buu sagas. Unfortunately, they only had a year to dub the two sagas. Aside from having a script completely based off of Funimation's (unfaithful) translation and recycled music from Megaman, the voices are just plain wrong. For example, Goku sounded half his age and lacked emotion, Future Trunks sounded older than his father, and Cell gurgled water whenever he powered up. I don't know what's worse- this dub itself or the amount of fans on YouTube convinced a rushed dub is superior to Funimation.

4. One Piece (4Kids): A dub that was bad enough to destroy the entire reputation of a company. Thanks to this dub, 4Kids quickly became mocked and hated by the anime community. So what's so bad about it? Well first off, it's heavily censored, with all blood, deaths, weapons, and drugs removed (poorly, poisonous darts were replaced with "poison suction cups" and a gun was replaced with a ridiculous hammer device). The script is even worse, relying on horrible and unfunny puns. With the exception of Zolo, the performances fall flat, Sanji's Brooklyn accent and Usopp's goofy voice are among the worst.

3. Violence Jack: Slum King (Manga UK): The weakest of the Violence Jack trilogy, Manga UK must have known they messed up badly with the dub, which is probably why it appeared as the third episode on their DVD release, when it's actually the first episode. The quality of this dub can summed up by scene where the character Laser starts cursing uncontrollably because he can't locate Jack. Easily Manga UK's worst dub and that's saying a lot.

2. MD Geist (Central Park Media): MD Geist is said to constantly rank as the second worst anime of all time, so it's pretty fitting that the dub gets the #2 spot here. Things get bad once you hear Geist's overly deep voice and they only get worse with every character sounding ridiculous and voiced by people unable to act.

1. Clash of the Bionoids (Celebrity Home Entertainment): "You can still fight when you're drunk!" Really, what hasn't been said about this dub already? Not only are the voices devoid of any acting ability whatsoever, the censorship makes the movie impossible to follow. Not even 4Kids and Manga UK could mess up this badly.

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Dec 7, 2009 8:53 PM

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mvx248 said:
The ten worst dubs I've heard.

10. Akira (Pioneer): People who hated the original dub loved this version because it was a more accurate translation, pronounced the names correctly, and gave the characters voices from popular anime titles. Sorry, but those factors don't make a dub good. Kaneda and Kei are completely miscast, while Tetsuo is devoid of any emotion and menace. None of the performances here are memorable, they all sound like they were trying to cash in on the Akira name.

Whoa, now that's way off-target. I'm sorry, but my opinion about the new dub of AKIRA is the total opposite. Kaneda and Kei sounded fine to me, and I'm sorry but Tetsuo was not so "devoid of emotion or menace" at all! In fact, I felt like he was a lot more effective than his first dub. Sorry, but I cannot agree that the new dub of AKIRA is among the worst. The older dub is the bad dub IMO.

Dec 10, 2009 9:56 AM

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mvx248 said:

9. Mobile Suit Gundam Trilogy (Bandai)

wait! what? there was a dub of that?! It certainly isn't on my dvds. Which is a shame considering that the trilogy is better than the series, yet the series got dubbed...

7. The Fuma Conspiracy (AnimEigo): I'll probably never know why no other company attempted to redub this, while Pioneer and Manga had no problem redubbing Streamline's competent versions of the Lupin films.

Well look out because they are gonna do it again when Lupin: First Contact comes out by Animeigo Sub-only. Man, what a waste of a great franchise.

Dec 10, 2009 5:54 PM

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Whoa, now that's way off-target. I'm sorry, but my opinion about the new dub of AKIRA is the total opposite. Kaneda and Kei sounded fine to me, and I'm sorry but Tetsuo was not so "devoid of emotion or menace" at all! In fact, I felt like he was a lot more effective than his first dub. Sorry, but I cannot agree that the new dub of AKIRA is among the worst. The older dub is the bad dub IMO.

No anime dubs have been more polarizing than the two Akira dubs. Both seem to find their way on to best and worst dub lists.

I found Kaneda to be miscast because his VA sounded too good-natured and not tough enough, while it was too evident to me that Kei's actress was in her 40s when she voiced the character. As for Tetsuo, his inability to provide emotion and menace was apparent in the scene where he knocks back the soldiers trying to stop them. His ensuing line, "There's no use in hiding anymore" is delivered flatly and fails to show the intensity of the scene. It didn't help matters that the soldier ordering his comrades to use their guns sounded like he could care less about an angry psychic advancing towards him.

If you don't agree with this, that's fine by me.

GrimWizard said:
wait! what? there was a dub of that?! It certainly isn't on my dvds. Which is a shame considering that the trilogy is better than the series, yet the series got dubbed...

Yeah, but it's terrible. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zXQYsYwmxo)

Well look out because they are gonna do it again when Lupin: First Contact comes out by Animeigo Sub-only. Man, what a waste of a great franchise.

Knowing them, they're probably going to re-name it Rupan: First Contact.

Dec 10, 2009 9:07 PM

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mvx248 said:

Well I'll take Johnny Yong Bosch and Wendee Lee over Cam Clarke and whoever did Kei in the first dub any day; I felt that Bosch's take on the character worked much better than Cam's; he sounded too robotic and boring throughout. As for Kei sounding like she's in her 40's, it really wasn't noticeable to me at all and it didn't bother me one bit.

And I'm sorry, but I do not have the same reaction to that line Tetsuo speaks. It did not sound flat or lifeless to me at all. It sounded angry yet not too furious, which I felt fit the mouth movements very well. Whatever Jab Robson did in the first dub, it just didn't match with the character at all.

Dec 13, 2009 4:06 PM

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JTurner said:
Well I'll take Johnny Yong Bosch and Wendee Lee over Cam Clarke and whoever did Kei in the first dub any day; I felt that Bosch's take on the character worked much better than Cam's; he sounded too robotic and boring throughout. As for Kei sounding like she's in her 40's, it really wasn't noticeable to me at all and it didn't bother me one bit.

And I'm sorry, but I do not have the same reaction to that line Tetsuo speaks. It did not sound flat or lifeless to me at all. It sounded angry yet not too furious, which I felt fit the mouth movements very well. Whatever Jab Robson did in the first dub, it just didn't match with the character at all.

I'm a little surprised you didn't know Lara Cody voiced Kei in the first dub.

I wouldn't say Clarke is robotic by any means. Bosch emoted whenever he wanted to and his voice didn't always match up to Kaneda's facial expression. Clarke provided emotion when necessary and his level of emotion went above Bosch's in these scenes. Kei's voice was noticeably old for me because she had a lower tone than Bosch did. Some could argue this was meant to reflect Kei being a more mature character than Kaneda, but the original dub already made her sound more grown-up than him, while retaining a teenage vibe.

Jan Rabson had a similar line ("There's no use in hiding") and his more deprived sounding delivery worked better IMO because Tetsuo was drooling as he said this.

Dec 13, 2009 6:00 PM

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If we are talking about dubs that seemed absolutely flawed, listen to the Sony version of Samurai X (at least I think it was Sony). This is different from the other dub that aired on Cartoon Network in the sense that most of the characters are casted differently making most of them not only sound unnatural (some of the adults actually sound higher pitched than the children), but also the acting executed didn't even fit any of the character's personalities as properly.

That and names were mispronounced. I can handle mispronounciations since my own name is often mistakenly pronounced, but the whole dub was ridiculous and it felt more like a fandub than anything else.

- Kenshin - Richard Cansino, pronounced "Kenshi," and sounds slightly arrogant.
- Kaoru - Rebecca Fordstadt, pronounced "Kori," and sounds and even slightly acts half her age. And she's one of the characters who's pitch is higher than any of the children.
- Yahiko - Brianne Sidall, pronounced "Yah-I-ko" or "Yoshi" (why in god's name is that the case, I'm not sure), and acts well... kinda the same only his voice is less bratty.
- Sanosuke - Derek Stephen Prince, pronounced "Sanosuki/S-e-no," and for lack of a better description, he sounds like Uryu, except it just doesn't fit Sanosuke's character. To make even less sense, Mona Marshall casts as Sanosuke when he was a kid!

And those were just the main chcaratcers. And most of the other protagonists and antagonists even sound and act unnatural. And when someone fights, they're battlecries and grunts either sound like they're constipated or imitatiing a vintage, asian, martial art film.

Here's an example from episode 54 I think.

"Concentrate Kenshi! Otherwise you're gonna diieee!!" I literally spit against the screen and laughed genuinely hard the moment I heard that line! Oh my god, what the fuck was the voice director thinking?!

HypeathonDec 13, 2009 6:03 PM

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Hypeathon said:
If we are talking about dubs that seemed absolutely flawed, listen to the Sony version of Samurai X

STOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPIT

Dec 13, 2009 6:27 PM

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mvx248 said:

Hypeathon said:
If we are talking about dubs that seemed absolutely flawed, listen to the Sony version of Samurai X

STOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPIT

What the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....?! "Finally the fighter worthy of fighting?!" Why is the dialogue so damn stiff?! Did the script writer or voice director have limited vocabulary when the dub was recorded?! And what the f**k was Dan Green (if that was Dan green) doing in that dub?! And really, does nobody know when to shut the f**k up during a fight?! God! I never heard a dub so laughable and frustruating before!!

Dec 15, 2009 9:31 AM

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On that note, here's a comparison of the older dub of CASTLE IN THE SKY and the newer, more widely available one by Disney. I've seen lot of angry purists dismiss the current version of this movie, declaring it the "worst" of the Miyazaki dubs, but I just don't see it. Even if it has its flaws (the somewhat mature-sounding leads and sometimes superfluous extra dialogue), it's a damn good dub IMO, and easily one of my favorites, if but for Hamill and Leachman's performances.

This older dub by Streamline/JAL, on the other hand, is AWFUL. The voices are both robotic and devoid of any genuine emotion, the scripting is choppy and poorly written, and the overall quality of this dub is just plain bad compared to dubs of today. While it doesn't have the controversial rescore (which I personally loved) and the sometimes overdone extra dialogue, that doesn't make up for the overall abysmal quality of it.

Seriously, I can only roll my eyes at ANYONE who would prefer this older version to Disney's. Watching this older dub only proved just the opposite to me. In fact, I found it just as offensive as the older dub of AKIRA. Thank god these two movies received better (if not perfect) redubs.

PS: I am refraining from commenting anymore about these older dubs because a certain xvm248 has been trolling my comments, trying to convince me how "better" they are than the current releases. These kind of arguments are pointless and do absolutely nothing productive.

JTurnerJan 4, 2010 8:21 PM

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I have no idea which of the Akiras I have and I can't be bothered to find out. Given the above video I definitely prefer the Disney dub of Castle in the Sky, though. (One of my favorite movies of all time)

Shirley and Mina's voices kind of annoyed me in Code Geass, but they weren't anywhere near enough to ruin the series for me. Excluding anything 4Kids - because they're so obvious it's painful - my least favorite is definitely Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie, as mvx said. It was beyond terrible, even worse than anything 4Kids has done.

FMA: Brotherhood also deserves a dishonorable mention, but in that case, the problem wasn't the dub as much as it was... well, everything.

Mar 5, 2010 10:44 PM

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XTApocalypse said:
FMA: Brotherhood also deserves a dishonorable mention, but in that case, the problem wasn't the dub as much as it was... well, everything.

You good sir, are insane. I think its gone clinical too. Excuse me, while I go look for a straight jacket.

Mar 6, 2010 10:55 AM

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I'm not going to argue about how utterly disappointed I was with Brotherhood and how tasteless anyone who enjoys it is, so... there we go.

Mar 16, 2010 7:34 PM

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The Higurashi dub was atrocious overall.
Sailor Moon was pretty bad.
4Kids One Piece was so bad I need not say more about it.
And Naruto in the Naruto dub was so horrible it ruined the whole dub. Believe it.

"Please do not deplore yourself.
Even if the world does not forgive, I will forgive you.

Please do not deplore yourself.
Even if you do not forgive the world, I will forgive you.

So please tell me.
What will it take for you, to forgive me?"

-Frederica Bernkastel

Mar 17, 2010 12:22 PM

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I never really understood what was so attrocious about Naruto's voice, bar it being completely unrealistic. Yeah, it's a stupid voice, but he's a pretty stupid character. It's always seemed fitting to me.

Mar 18, 2010 1:35 PM

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the only dub i have hated was the one for Karin.....its soooo horrible

Stop. Calm yourself. You're an idiot.

Mar 18, 2010 5:57 PM

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Sakura Dairies sucks so much.

Mar 24, 2010 7:48 PM

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All of them.

Mar 26, 2010 8:15 AM

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Baby_Naruto said:

Felix_Omni said:
All of them.

Please leave this club troll.

How can you be an english dub fan if you hate/dislike all of them.

Best way to get the idiot to leave is not to give it any attention. Don't justify its presence and it will leave on its own. ;)

Edit: Ah, besides, I just looked at its clublist--it's already gone. :3

You can find me on IRC.

Apr 19, 2010 8:25 PM

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Angel Sanctuary OVA (coupled with the fact that it was horrible adaption of the manga)

Karin, gosh the entire thing was a disappointment

Revolutionary Girl Utena, Crispin Freeman couldn't even save this horrid dub

Oh pitiful shadow lost in the darkness bringing torment and pain to others, oh damned soul wallowing in your sin...perhaps it is time to die

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