lilymul said: ^ I've heard this theory before, I think it was from tgre tumblr(this guy or girl is really good at interpreting and finding stuffs in tg, I really love the blog) . and we didnt even know about Hide's family background till date and it seems like Hide is really knowledgeable and appears to be really interested in ghousl even before Kaneki became one. It will be pretty awesome if it turns out to be true. I mean it's better than having Hide as part of the Pierrot, right? AquaWateria said: I don't know man if Haise does regain all his memories do you think he'll stay with CCG. I mean Arima fuckin killed Woof Dog and Demon Ape and butchered his eyes. Yeah you could say he spared his life and shit but that wasn't out of sympathy. Arima sees him like a useful pet. And like it was said if he stops being useful he'll be thrown away. Also the CCG destroyed his home Anteiku and that says a lot. I'm just saying I don't know if he'll be able to let go of his past friends. . I'm surprised that you can read Arima's real intention or what he feels regarding Haise since I absolutely have no clue what's going on in his mind. He is like a walking mystery. I am curious where did you get that 'Arima sees Haise as useful pet' ? Ishida leaves Haise/Arima relationship ambiguous for now, but from what had been thrown into us, Arima treats Haise as his own 'child' (the omakes, Akira's quote) and Haise looks up to Arima very much to the point he sees him a parental figure but whether those feelings or treatments are genuine or not, it's up to debate and we still need more chapters of them together(and Arima). He got it from the Kafka's story...I think its name was crossbred. And I agree...while Haise does look at Arima like a father, I think he looks at him like pet. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
| Well in Jack Arima admitted that he kills ghouls as a hobby and because he's interested in them. So yeah he probably kept Kaneki as a... guinea-pig to satisfy his curiosity, since Kaneki was human until his 18th bday. But as mostly happens maybe Sasaneki grew on Arima, like my dog grew on my dad. And now he cares for him as a pet/ son. Things will probably become complicated once Sasaneki regains his memories and who knows what will happen. But people can't stay ignorant and having Sasaki without his memories for the rest of his live, is like cruel, because it seems like those ... 20? years w ere wasted. |
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lilymul said: gabyta07 said: He got it from the Kafka's story...I think its name was crossbred. And I agree...while Haise does look at Arima like a father, I think he looks at him like pet. Looks at him like a pet as in what? Relationship between a pet and its owner as far as I know is one of the strongest bonds human can create with other creatures. I dont know if 'treating one as a pet' is a negative notation to one's relationship but if you read the Kafka's Crossbreed and relates it to Haise/Kaneki relationship, Arima have found new empathy and idk.. affection(?) for Haise well being; much like a doting owner with his pet. I dont know if I make sense but this guy here made some really good analysis on Kafka Crossbreed and Arima/Haise's relationship. http://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/2ny62i/tokyo_ghoulre_and_kafkas_crossbreed_kensasaki_and/ I did not say it with a bad connotation...and yes I have read it...its ok, for someone who doesnt know psychoanalysis...the problem is that kafka is full of psychoanalysis connotations and have to be interpreted that way. Specially seeing that TG is full of psychoanalysis. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
lilymul said: ^lol are you saying that one cannot interpret TG and Kafka without having it to do with psychoanalysis? Sometimes things can be delivered as simple as ABC if the author wants it. Even some the fans' 'findings' may not intended at all and pure coincidences if they turned out to be true. well, moving on, well good job, now that I am watching TGA anime, I cant look at Yoshitoki Washuu face without screaming Hide's papa at my screen. lol...Tg yes, you will lose one or two things and Ishida always reveals it in a simple language in the future., but the majority is ABC...Kafka...well thats a bit difficult. edit: its like seeing a pink square, but then your eyes only see a white and red square. You only see one shade. |
gabyta07Jan 29, 2015 9:49 AM
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Baka_Panda said: Everyone has there thought about the origins of ghouls, so I guess I would go into what I think. Since, I would believe, the beginning of time there has been case of people committing cannibalism. People resorted to cannibalism because they were either in a life or death situation, trying to survive long enough for help to come so they eat ANYTHING they could to survive or because they were part of some coo-coo cult. There are different reasons as to why a human would resort to cannibalism. There have been tales as to what could happen to a human who eats his/her own kind. I am only aware of 2 different tale. 1) a human who eats the flesh of his own kind gain the strength of those who they consumed. 2) they become monster and the only drive is to eat. With this, my theory is that ghouls were once human who committed cannibalism. This could explain why they take the shape of human and can blend into our world and explain why they are super strong and can also be monster even tho they take human shape. that's interesting it could very well be the reason why...although there's still tribes in the world that continue practicing cannibalism, and lets not forget abt the man who put an add on internet to look for a man who wanted to be eaten. I think most probable, it could be that the ghouls were part of a tribe. Maybe they ate ppl outside their tribe to get stronger, or something like that no? |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
| Never knew such a thread existed. |
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| What is this? It's fake? (spoiler alert) http://i.imgur.com/V10qAb5.jpg |
LOL, That was funny...soo dramatic :D |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Baka_Panda said: Damn... I wish it was real I don't |
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Baka_Panda said: Damn... I wish it was real Thank god it's not. |
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| Don't know if this has been discussed in the previous pages of this threat, but I would like to know your theories on Sasaki's/Kaneki's memory loss. For me it's either Aogiri or the CCG that took Kaneki's dead or alive body (revived him if he were dead) and tampered with it so that he would loose his memories and at the same time create a fake background on him with the name Haise Sasaki, the latter being the most probable since Arima and Suzuya know his real identity. But at the same time I think it was Aogiri due to Eto's commets on the last chapter of TG. |
| sic mundus |
| http://eyepatch-centipede.tumblr.com/post/109653118242/tg-re-ch-15-spoilers Spoilers are out...more eto and ayato! Also..I think Arima is talking about Arata? And Torso is being questioned about the floppy disk he had? Do I see Hinami?! And Sasaki-sensei ramping up the Qs! |
MuggleBornJan 30, 2015 11:27 PM
MuggleBorn said: http://eyepatch-centipede.tumblr.com/post/109653118242/tg-re-ch-15-spoilers Spoilers are out...more eto and ayato! Also..I think Arima is talking about Arata? And Torso is being questioned about the floppy disk he had? Do I see Hinami?! And Sasaki-sensei ramping up the Qs! Yeah, I love how he is training with them, just like he trained with Banjo and Tsukiyama why the **** is Urie with Arima? And Torso seems in love with dear Mutsuki...what type of flowers are around him? Does anybody know? |
gabyta07Jan 30, 2015 11:33 PM
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
gabyta07 said: Yeah, I love how he is training with them, just like he trained with Banjo and Tsukiyama why the **** is Urie with Arima? Urie seems to be just as confused though XD (about why Arima is there) |
| Hinami finally has bust.. err I mean Plot. Finally we got something on Aogiri and Saiko is seen doing a level 2 facepalm. |
| So weird of Arima asking about the frame thing...why is he so interested? So it seems what is around Saeki is a lotus...maybe his spirit has awaken now that he knows his dear Mutsuki is in danger. Bc he seems to be in love with her lol Wait....Are they going to make a Q an Arata user???? Wow |
gabyta07Jan 31, 2015 12:13 AM
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
| http://tgre-news.tumblr.com/post/109653279307/tokyo-ghoul-re-chapter-15-spoiler-images Tg re news got it translated. Replacement Arata user.? Who's it gonna be.? Hirako is the most likely candidate though. He can lift. |
usagi_Kuro99 said: http://tgre-news.tumblr.com/post/109653279307/tokyo-ghoul-re-chapter-15-spoiler-images Tg re news got it translated. Replacement Arata user.? Who's it gonna be.? Hirako is the most likely candidate though. He can lift. If they're still making Arata armours then it proves Touka's dad is still alive. |
| Sasaki should wear a Jason mask and drop the Q's of a building. |
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| Nice :3 Haise training them was nice ^^ Saiko laziness is always so fun :P Hinami >.< Sad she's not a loli anymore tho D: I hope to see more of her from now. She has quite the interesting ability there. Glad that we'll really see more Eto :3 and awesome! AT are gonna play part with the auction! Shit is going down! Arima with Urie :O WTF? |
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Barion-Zara said: Arima with Urie :O WTF? What's there to be surprised you fool. <_< They're just talking about Qs frames and Arata prototype only. |
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Nuvi said: Barion-Zara said: Arima with Urie :O WTF? What's there to be surprised you fool. <_< They're just talking about Qs frames and Arata prototype only. it's not like they went there together. Arima probably showed up after Urie. |
usagi_Kuro99 said: Yes you're correct here. He did showed up after Urie, hence the surprised panel of Urie.Nuvi said: What's there to be surprised you fool. <_< They're just talking about Qs frames and Arata prototype only. it's not like they went there together. Arima probably showed up after Urie. |
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| Urie respects Arima more than Sasaki when it was actually Sasaki who saves Urie's sorry ass from Nishiki/Serpent. That's unfair. |
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lilymul said: When did I ever said that Urie should not respect Arima? I only posted that him not respecting Sasaki is unfair. Japanese take student-teacher relationship seriously and the disciples have to respect them for whatever knowledge their teachers/mentor provide.Nuvi said: Urie respects Arima more than Sasaki when it was actually Sasaki who saves Urie's sorry ass from Nishiki/Serpent. That's unfair. Well is there anyone who actually does not 'respect' Arima in CCG tho? I doubt Urie wants to take Arima lightly given his reputation and superiority in CCG. |
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| Yaay! Seriously the chapter looks soo interesting! Almost everyone is gathering for the auction. Cept the Anteiku caowd... wait maybe Nishiki will be at the auction too! Sasaki's training with the Q's reminded me sooo much of Kaneki. I couldn't help but stare at his well developed arms >< The fangirl in me is resurfacing! Yaaaay Hinami!! Irimi was right, her senses have become extraordinary. R.I.P. Irimi! T^T Sasaki pulling Saiko's face and telling her to get serious was the best scene of all! Wait so, who's going to have the Arata armor? Uhhh doesn't feel right... if one of the CCG is going to use it during the battle at the auction and Ayato sees it... Well that would become interesting. Damn now back to 1 week waiting :( |
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| Does anyone know the meaning or what kind of flowers are on the backround behind Saeki??? Also, Sasaki saying 3 "hito"....Is he remembering something about fighting with three ppl at the same time??? Who could it be? I only remember him training with Banjo and Tsukiyama Btw I miss Banjo I hope we see him soon, it would be cool if Sasaki puts his hand through him like he did in TG, and he has a flashback kind of like Nishiki and him were fighting :D Edit: Oh and I kind of hating Arima at this moment for jumping Sasaki's authority and allowing Urie to have the operation. Oh and I thiki Floppy is Sasaki |
gabyta07Jan 31, 2015 6:11 AM
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
gabyta07 said: Also, Sasaki saying 3 "hito"....Is he remembering something about fighting with three ppl at the same time??? I think he's talking about the fact that Mutsuki, Shirazu and supposedly Saiko are all training together against him yet none of them were able to land a blow |
MuggleBorn said: gabyta07 said: Also, Sasaki saying 3 "hito"....Is he remembering something about fighting with three ppl at the same time??? I think he's talking about the fact that Mutsuki, Shirazu and supposedly Saiko are all training together against him yet none of them were able to land a blow yeah I got it, when I read the second translation :D...but thanks :D |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
gabyta07 said: MuggleBorn said: I think he's talking about the fact that Mutsuki, Shirazu and supposedly Saiko are all training together against him yet none of them were able to land a blow yeah I got it, when I read the second translation :D...but thanks :D Well I know this might not be related but he has fought 3 people at once. Ayumu, Take and kuramoto during Anteiku raid. |
| papaneki at it again |
| "Events that happen in this world are a continuous series of trifling things. And within those myriad pieces of puzzles, there is a fragment that leads to the truth." -Kishou Arima |
| At that rate, the auction will be a disaster!! Almost Everyone is participating in the event. Acernos said: gabyta07 said: Does anyone know the meaning or what kind of flowers are on the backround behind Saeki??? Also, Sasaki saying 3 "hito"....Is he remembering something about fighting with three ppl at the same time??? Who could it be? I only remember him training with Banjo and Tsukiyama Btw I miss Banjo I hope we see him soon, it would be cool if Sasaki puts his hand through him like he did in TG, and he has a flashback kind of like Nishiki and him were fighting :D Edit: Oh and I kind of hating Arima at this moment for jumping Sasaki's authority and allowing Urie to have the operation. Oh and I thiki Floppy is Sasaki I think it's referred to Qs overall, the speech from Hinami: "It Seems que the" Doves "are Also interested in the floppies." or it can also be something else. I did not like the way Urie got the surgery, of course, is better than something ridiculous like fake a signature and the doctor did not talk to Sasaki, but this conspiracy was rough. Sasaki is a very seductive man, unless Urie is much better than Shirazu, it also would be easily beaten by Sasaki, and it's nice to know that Sasaki can spank their children mercilessly in a training Yeah, Urie is pissing me off, He's acting on his own without considering Sasaki's words. The problem's that he believes that he would make a better leader than Sasaki which is just plain wrong. |
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