| If contributing to this project meant a series, even 5 consecutive episodes, then I would fork over the load. |
| "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" |
| There's a new tier which give you Blu-ray code at $60. |
| Hopefully this will be a great series |
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| I readthe synopsis for this on the kick starter page. ohmy gosh, I can't even tell what this is about. Stopping terrorists or just making a school of kids trained to kill each other? Regardless, they need more than one episode for this to ever work, hoping they get more than that if anythingbecause regardless of what this anime aims to do, oneepisode is not enough. It baffles me why people are willingto support this.Yesit has good animation, andstaff behind it, but it's just tooshort, andthat will ultimately kill it worse than guilty Crown. |
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StardustNyako said: I readthe synopsis for this on the kick starter page. ohmy gosh, I can't even tell what this is about. Stopping terrorists or just making a school of kids trained to kill each other? Regardless, they need more than one episode for this to ever work, hoping they get more than that if anything because regardless of what this anime aims to do, oneepisode is not enough. It baffles me why people are willingto support this.Yesit has good animation, andstaff behind it, but it's just tooshort, andthat will ultimately kill it worse than guilty Crown. Of course it's not gonna cover an entire story arc. It's a one-shot, essentially a random OVA short. It doesn't have to encompass the whole story like you're making it out to be. They themselves have said that if they get enough backing on this, they might expand it into a full series or delve in the lore of their established universe. It's just animation for animation's sake for 24 solid minutes, only with a utopian sci-fi premise and tons of action as part of the appeal. What baffles me is how you're expecting this to be some grand story with a clear-cut plot, despite the fact that they're literally proposing what is essentially a pilot episode of pure eye-candy than anything else. Pipe down the expectations, it's too early cry Guilty Crown when they haven't even put out a single episode. |
ronriAug 9, 2014 8:19 PM
StardustNyako said: I readthe synopsis for this on the kick starter page. ohmy gosh, I can't even tell what this is about. Stopping terrorists or just making a school of kids trained to kill each other? Regardless, they need more than one episode for this to ever work, hoping they get more than that if anythingbecause regardless of what this anime aims to do, oneepisode is not enough. It baffles me why people are willingto support this.Yesit has good animation, andstaff behind it, but it's just tooshort, andthat will ultimately kill it worse than guilty Crown. The problem with some Kickstarter projects are that they're overly ambitious and in correlation, stretched toward creativity overload when they find their projects gaining more and more success. Time will only tell if this project will become its own series, and until then enjoy the show. |
WindburnsAug 9, 2014 8:26 PM
| "For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" |
| to draw her as extremely beautiful and sexy |
| To all those complaining about how expensive it is, you clearly have no idea of how much an episode of anime costs to make. Average TV anime episodes can cost from $100,000 to $300,000, and that's usually pretty cheap since they have to conserve budget for later episodes. Since this is pretty much a standalone OVA, and they want to ensure the quality of the art and animation is as high as possible, the price that they set really isn't anything crazy. |
geralt said: So wait, they need $580,000 for a 24 minute episode? Sounds expensive... Nope, with a "24-minute anime" I think they mean 24-minute episodes. They also say something about "26 episodes" in the video. Honestly I thought it was really cool, seems good, I am looking forward to watch it. |
b1GZZ said: geralt said: So wait, they need $580,000 for a 24 minute episode? Sounds expensive... Nope, with a "24-minute anime" I think they mean 24-minute episodes. They also say something about "26 episodes" in the video. Honestly I thought it was really cool, seems good, I am looking forward to watch it. No it's a single 24 minute episode. It says so on the Kickstarter page. |
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Moonchipz said: I will add to this that there's a budget graph saying where the money is supposed to go, and there's a fair amount going into Backer rewards for example. I would suggest to take a look at the graph and the text below it for those who are curious about the 580k budget for an episode.To all those complaining about how expensive it is, you clearly have no idea of how much an episode of anime costs to make. Average TV anime episodes can cost from $100,000 to $300,000, and that's usually pretty cheap since they have to conserve budget for later episodes. Since this is pretty much a standalone OVA, and they want to ensure the quality of the art and animation is as high as possible, the price that they set really isn't anything crazy. |
| So yeah, I went 25 USD for this. |
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| That synopsis amazes me but can they reach their goal?i saw the pv its look great nice animations i hope we can see it! |
skudoops said: Civille said: That synopsis amazes me but can they reach their goal?i saw the pv its look great nice animations i hope we can see it! Well they made 68k in a day, so I'd imagine they could reach it as more people get exposed to the kickstarter. The staff will surely get some people interested, there's a lot of very good/popular shows they worked on. 2days - almost 3 days ;-) |
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ronri said: Sorry if I seemed angry or what not. the idea in general just seems over the topfor the plot theyput out for it.StardustNyako said: I readthe synopsis for this on the kick starter page. ohmy gosh, I can't even tell what this is about. Stopping terrorists or just making a school of kids trained to kill each other? Regardless, they need more than one episode for this to ever work, hoping they get more than that if anything because regardless of what this anime aims to do, oneepisode is not enough. It baffles me why people are willingto support this.Yesit has good animation, andstaff behind it, but it's just tooshort, andthat will ultimately kill it worse than guilty Crown. Of course it's not gonna cover an entire story arc. It's a one-shot, essentially a random OVA short. It doesn't have to encompass the whole story like you're making it out to be. They themselves have said that if they get enough backing on this, they might expand it into a full series or delve in the lore of their established universe. It's just animation for animation's sake for 24 solid minutes, only with a utopian sci-fi premise and tons of action as part of the appeal. What baffles me is how you're expecting this to be some grand story with a clear-cut plot, despite the fact that they're literally proposing what is essentially a pilot episode of pure eye-candy than anything else. Pipe down the expectations, it's too early cry Guilty Crown when they haven't even put out a single episode. |
| "Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
DarkMorpher said: [i]This[/i] project also awesome. Already cancelled though ;-) |
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| I'll pay some attention to this :) could be interesting^^ |
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StardustNyako said: Sorry if I seemed angry or what not. the idea in general just seems over the topfor the plot theyput out for it. No problem, and I apologize if I came across as stand-offish. It's just I think it's unrealistic to expect this to have a full story in literally one episode, especially when the info on the Kickstarter very clearly outlines that it's more of an OVA short than an actual movie of any sort. The premise they've given is just there to serve as context for what could potentially turn into a series should this get funded successfully. It wouldn't make sense for them to deal with everything they've talked about in the story through one episode, obviously they're creating enough leeway for a potential series if this works out for them. |
| "The project aims to carry the tradition of older sci-fi anime titles such as Akira and Ghost in the Shell, and the material was written between 1994 and 1995. The production team is using Kickstarter in order to avoid the process of funding from production committees and therefore retain creative control of the anime." -ANN article. HELL YES. Just the way they describe it makes me super happy. Although I'm a little hesitant on character design (Hana Tougetsu, #6...) and plot since it looks a bit more like an action movie. Plus the fact that it's a single 24 minute episode so they can't get too complicated in story. But they are enthusiastic and really want to go all out with this it. I'm interested in supporting them. I like the idea and the trike design, and animation also looks gorgeous. CM was exciting (I'm liking the OST) and looks like they're well ploted out in what they want to do. I'm excited for this! I definitely hopes it turns out well. They do have a concept for 26 episodes and potential backers already, but they'd rather go for quality and creative freedom. Even for eye candy (really, that CM), I think my $25 will be worth it. :) |
MirorinAug 10, 2014 10:18 AM
| [quote=TripleSRank] Marthgun said: i'll never give money to kickstarter, especially when these guys want over half a mil. They're out of their minds, just looking for a pay day from a bunch of otaku suckers. You seem to have a poor idea of how much it costs to make an anime episode. For high quality art, animation, sound, and VAs, that's a fair price. They're trying to deliver a high-quality product. It's one thing if you don't think they can deliver, but it seems more like you're just spewing nonsensical hate. /quote] I'm a 3d artist myself, i know exactly how much it takes to produce something of quality. But listen here rube, unless these guys are actually a top level firm with 60+ employees, then why would they charge premium price for their single episode? that kind of money would pay 6 elite employees for a year, will this one episode take a year? Are they trying to get salary off this job? It sure sounds like it. That's the reason i'm not paying. Idk anything about this project, so idk how many people are in on this. But for an upstart group of guys wanting to make a pilot, 600k is a fucking gold mine. Kudos to them if they can do it, don't expect me to support them financially or intellectually. |
| It honestly seems pretty generic and unoriginal BUT, I want to be positive and to hope that Masahiro Ando will make us a good show just like Sword of the Stranger was. What they say in the video is interesting and without a doubt right, making shows in all freedom without being caged by "What fans want" is truly wonderful and I hope they will succeed in that, the question lies in, will they be coherent with their visions? |
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skudoops said: Civille said: That synopsis amazes me but can they reach their goal?i saw the pv its look great nice animations i hope we can see it! Well they made 68k in a day, so I'd imagine they could reach it as more people get exposed to the kickstarter. The staff will surely get some people interested, there's a lot of very good/popular shows they worked on. I thought they made 68k in one month and i believed they will not make it wow thats nice this project will be great if they complete the task! |
| The art style looks really good, well, maybe not the character one, but still.. Got me quite interested.. |
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| Hmm, it looked really well done! I'm hoping the reach their 5 million goal and produce the movie length version (though probably very unlikely). I supported it anyways, hopefully they get enough funding to go through with this. Edit: Not sure if this was mentioned or not yet, but the show/concept apparently has been bid on by multiple publishers however they were all turned down. That even included a 2 season, 26 episodes / season deal. They turned it down because under that bid they wouldn't of been able to produce as high end of a show as they wanted to make. Like over here, publishers are very reluctant to commit large dollars to untested concepts. Especially since Under The Dog is an original idea, nobody wanted to give it a SAO amount of dollars. |
shawnofthedeadzAug 10, 2014 12:32 PM
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| I forgot to mention this last time, but for the people saying that half a million is too much for a single episode, don't forget that 40% of the money will go to Kickstarter fees (5%), rewards for backers (30%) and Amazon credit card fees (5%). This means that out of the primary goal they expect to spend a little over 230 thousand dollars on those. Which means that "only" 350 thousand dollars will go towards the actual production of the episode. It surprised me that they estimated such high expenditures to pay for the rewards. I had no idea it would be that expensive. |
kurosaki_kabuto said: I forgot to mention this last time, but for the people saying that half a million is too much for a single episode, don't forget that 40% of the money will go to Kickstarter fees (5%), rewards for backers (30%) and Amazon credit card fees (5%). This means that out of the primary goal they expect to spend a little over 230 thousand dollars on those. Which means that "only" 350 thousand dollars will go towards the actual production of the episode. It surprised me that they estimated such high expenditures to pay for the rewards. I had no idea it would be that expensive. Yeah, people also forget that shipping from Japan is included in the American price which adds up. |
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| I hope this project gets enough funding, the animation is amazing,the story is really intriguing, it should be the runner up in the terror genre after Zankyou no Terror has ended. |
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| It looks really damn cool but i do wonder what the chances of this actually receiving its funding will be. I saw the panel at otakon and alot of people left uninterested as well as the fact the first day seemed to do a pretty good job right out the gates, the 2nd day seemed almost completely stagnant. |
JizzyHitlerAug 10, 2014 3:46 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Deknijff said: I will watch this only because the girl is Swedish and I'll like to see a Swedish anime girl. Blonde hair, blue eyes, probably emotionless, duh. You have seen her plenty already. This sounds highly dubious... Who the hell are the people proposing this anyhow? I have a distinct feeling that this will just turn into generic garbage... But we will see. |
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| @DarkMorpher: Thanks for posting that, t'was very informative. |
| wait wasnt little witch academia 2 for a 40 minute short? it definetly wasnt only for a 10 minute short |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: I believe it started out at 15mins or so - the current length is a result of stretch goals: when they raise more money on kickstarter than required.wait wasnt little witch academia 2 for a 40 minute short? it definetly wasnt only for a 10 minute short |
Afezeria said: Ghostbooster said: Yeah, ALMOST EVERY anime these days have become harem show. How unsightly of thee.People who hate that industry changed to mostly harem shows, this is your chance to show them that we still care about good anime I don't find that to be an issue at all. I love Harem anime. |
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| INTERESTING,,, |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| I like it, Sword of the Stranger animation was top notch. |
| The trailer wrecked my browser for about 10 minutes and even after I managed to close the tab the audio still played until I restarted everything. I'm skeptical... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Hmmm... Interesting... xD |
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Tengai said: That animation *o* Oh and........bewbs :3 I like the title, and I would love to watch this, but, $580,000 USD seems a little too much?? I get the writer, though. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/under-the-dog/posts this update answers your questions |
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| I really hope they get enough money in time. |
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VioLink said: I really hope they get enough money in time. Going strong so far! 130K in 5 days ! Pretty sure the first goal will easily be reached. Just hope they get enough sponsors and funding for a potential 24 / 26 episode series. |
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PrOxAnto said: VioLink said: I really hope they get enough money in time. Going strong so far! 130K in 5 days ! Pretty sure the first goal will easily be reached. Just hope they get enough sponsors and funding for a potential 24 / 26 episode series. Nope, their plan is to make it into a trilogy :D which ain't half bad nor dragged out |
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Vene said: gray-samaa said: In the video, it was stated that the writer was aiming for a 26 episode series. Each episode is probably 24 minutes long. 580K a full 24/26 episode series?, no way. Its only a 24 minutes single episode guys. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/under-the-dog/posts Read m8 |
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