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Apr 3, 2014 4:10 PM
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Hi all ... Im Gray fan ... I thinks his cool, but in 1 season of anime he doesnt get really strong ... I think that fairy tail producers need to power him up ... Because all i can see is that mediocre anime character as Natsu gets more and more powerfull ... Just my opinion on that ...
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Apr 3, 2014 4:16 PM
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Gray doesn't believe enough in the power of NAKAMAS!
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Apr 3, 2014 5:13 PM
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Gajeel rapes both of them
Apr 3, 2014 6:52 PM
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they should call it ,, Natsu ,, not ,, Fairy tail,, his in spotlight always ... it would be more cooler anime if natsu and gray were equal in power tryng to become more stronger ... pitty Gray is so much cooler
Apr 3, 2014 7:59 PM
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I think he did get stronger but it's just that they didn't show it well
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Apr 3, 2014 8:04 PM
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Shomix said:
his in spotlight always

Well duh, he is the main male protagonist.
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Apr 4, 2014 6:53 AM
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While they do make Natsu look stronger, I've greatly come to prefer Gray over him. He's basically the opposite of Natsu in the best way possible. Natsu hardly has any character development and is still the same bumbling moron from chapter 1, Gray on the other hand has developed quite a bit. Natsu also wins most of his fights through brute force and plot armor, Gray's fights on the other hand are the most strategic in the entire series. So to me, I like Gray over Natsu.
Apr 4, 2014 8:03 AM
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tbh I don't like either of them. imo one is as annoying as the other :/
Apr 4, 2014 8:24 AM
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I'm more of a GRAY fan than NATSU fan :)) But I love them both. It's just that I looooove Nakamura Yuuichi-san better than Kakihara Tatsuya-san :)) I'm a seiyuu bias :)))
Apr 4, 2014 9:46 AM

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I'm indifferent when it comes to Gray. And sometimes Natsu is cool, so I will go with him, and I think I generally like him more.
Apr 4, 2014 11:44 AM

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Natsu = Luffy ... no change at all in whole series ... they have same personality ... Gray is just so cool they need to buff him a little ... What i dnt get is like Natsu is salamander , then he eat thunder and becomes fire and thunder dragon user ... just so stupid ... next thing will be he eats a dragon and will be able to transform in dragon ... just his always like brute force shhit and comes in last second -.- and kick asses ... like i said anime should be called ,, Natsu the all powerfull eating mage ,, not ,, Fairy tail,, ...
Apr 4, 2014 11:49 AM

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you're starting to repeat yourself. Gray will never be as strong as Natsu. Natsu has the potential to turn into a dragon like Acnologia just from overusing his magic. Meanwhile if Gray does that with iced shell he just dies. I could write an essay several pages long why Gray's rivalry with Natsu is something casual rather than Gray actually holding a candle to Natsu.
Apr 4, 2014 11:52 AM

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yeah i know ... but i just cnt enjoy faiy tail like i enjoyed it in beggining of series ... where natsu and gray rivalry was cute to see and funny ... now natsu is just getting buffed with no real character developement ... so i very much stoped watching at episode 130 or even less ... its 2 boring ... whole thing is like ... bad guys come ... make trouble ... natsu then come defeat their leader and others from fairy tail just defeat minions ... its boring to see always same thing
Apr 4, 2014 12:29 PM

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Happy is better than them both.
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Apr 4, 2014 12:44 PM

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I think I like Gray a little more, don't really care for the two though.

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Apr 4, 2014 1:02 PM

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Shomix said:
yeah i know ... but i just cnt enjoy faiy tail like i enjoyed it in beggining of series ... where natsu and gray rivalry was cute to see and funny ... now natsu is just getting buffed with no real character developement ... so i very much stoped watching at episode 130 or even less ... its 2 boring ... whole thing is like ... bad guys come ... make trouble ... luffy then come defeat their leader and others from one piece just defeat minions ... its boring to see always same thing
isnt this same thing with your fav?

Apr 4, 2014 3:17 PM

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YorozuyaGinSan said:
I think I like Gray a little more, don't really care for the two though.

Did Gray not defeat Rufus just in the last couple arcs? He was the acclaimed "strongest member of Sabertooth" while Gajeel and Natsu fought the two Dragon Slayers.


And then Natsu beat both of them. Besides Sabertooth were only big shots cause they had no solid competition
Apr 4, 2014 3:18 PM

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Both of them suck. But I'd go with Gray because he is less annoying.
Apr 4, 2014 3:47 PM

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everyone has their own opinion... so i choose natsu...
but both characters are fucking stupid (in good ways)



Apr 4, 2014 8:53 PM

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Makarov is the most kawaii bishie
Apr 4, 2014 8:53 PM

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_ultima_ said:
Happy is better than them both.


you're right, happy kicks some serious ass. lily is pretty ballin' too, who needs people when you have talking, flying badass cats!! :D

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Makarov is the most kawaii bishie


i just thought of him doing the kawaii senpai notice me thing to mavis!! XD

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VudisJul 27, 2014 6:12 AM
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Apr 5, 2014 5:11 AM

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HA! But if Grey casts iced shell on Natsu he would win! actually, double K.O., but doesn't matter!

pls don't take me seriously.

Also, Grey. Because ice magic is way cooler.
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Apr 5, 2014 5:36 AM

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Gray, he is actually a well developed character, which is pretty much non existent in Fairy tail, his magic is also more interesting and creative than Natsu's which is just burning shit up, hence why Gray's fights are more strategic and Natsu's feature more mid fight powerups and overall he is just way more likeable imo while Natsu is more annoying and feels like a generic shonen hero.

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Apr 5, 2014 7:07 AM

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Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.
Apr 5, 2014 7:13 AM

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Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.
Apr 5, 2014 8:01 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.
Apr 5, 2014 8:04 AM

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Sv3rr3 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.


The blood Ice only canceled out Time arc. Ice Magic wise she was wiping the floor with Gray. And in an ocean if she had not been emotionally nuked by Ul she would have destroyed Gray
Apr 5, 2014 8:07 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.


The blood Ice only canceled out Time arc. Ice Magic wise she was wiping the floor with Gray. And in an ocean if she had not been emotionally nuked by Ul she would have destroyed Gray


You're just making baseless assumptions, and at the same time ignoring everything I say. I don't feel like debating with someone like that. Peace.
Apr 5, 2014 12:15 PM

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As much as i like Natsu, i hate that he gets all the spotlight.
Apr 6, 2014 3:37 PM

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pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D
Apr 6, 2014 5:32 PM

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Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have
Apr 6, 2014 6:40 PM

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Natsu is far more powerful than Gray. That said, I feel like Gray is the better character. Not being a walking cliche helps.


Darklight0303 said:
Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Geez, you really hate Gray don't you?
Apr 6, 2014 10:30 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Loses faith in humanity, over people having different opinions in an anime discussion forum o_0
Apr 8, 2014 4:43 AM

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Gray is better in almost every way except for strength.
Apr 8, 2014 4:45 PM

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cnt w8 for episode where gray dies ... just to see look on other faces :D his the best , its the sadest moment of fairy tail
Apr 8, 2014 5:48 PM

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Shomix said:
cnt w8 for episode where gray dies ... just to see look on other faces :D his the best , its the sadest moment of fairy tail


Except it really wasn't. It was an asspull that cost us a far superior character
Apr 13, 2014 2:56 PM

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ultear superior -.- ok
Jun 21, 2014 10:06 PM

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Ummm Laxus of course.

Please ignore my banner below and all the Laxus fanart I have drawn because I am DEFINITELY not biased or anything no not me never.
Jun 25, 2014 11:51 PM

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Gray >>>>>> Natsu.

Natsu lacks character development which Gray has. I am not fond of Natsu-type characters to begin with but at least, he used to be okay. Now he is all about nakama-power and is barely developed.

Gray is just plain awesome.

FastnessofWheels said:
Natsu is far more powerful than Gray. That said, I feel like Gray is the better character. Not being a walking cliche helps.


Darklight0303 said:


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Geez, you really hate Gray don't you?


It seems like the case. I mean, let others have their opinions but no. If he says so then Natsu-sama is superior than anyone.
Jun 27, 2014 7:43 AM
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Natsu's strength varies according to the plotu he should have never won his fight against Laxus and many others. Gray has plot armor too but his one is less than Natsu Ultear should have killed him.

Without plot armor Gray is stronger with plot armor Natsu wins. Simple as that.
Jun 28, 2014 2:02 AM

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Natsu should win. Why?

Well Natsu should win simply because he made fire that can't be blown away and because he can create flames hotter than ice. When Gray uses ice, it is frozen water. If you think about it, Natsu should win due to virtue of the state of matter changes. Other than that, Natsu can slay dragons and use lightning....while Gray has ice....which conducts lightning!


And if we're going down this line of thought...wouldn't Natsu instantly lose if Gray made an ice train or something? I mean they make Natsu's motion sickness look like he's dying ._.
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A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!"


Jun 28, 2014 4:31 AM

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Natsu's strength varies according to the plotu he should have never won his fight against Laxus and many others. Gray has plot armor too but his one is less than Natsu Ultear should have killed him.

Without plot armor Gray is stronger with plot armor Natsu wins. Simple as that.


You're forgetting he had HELP with Laxus from Gajeel. Contrary to popular belief Natsu RARELY wins fights on his own. Just cause he gets the last hit in doesn't invalidate the damage done by others leading up to that point.
Jul 13, 2014 3:21 AM

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Gray > Gajeel > Natsu
I like all three though.
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Jul 18, 2014 3:09 PM

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Gray is one of my favorite characters in Fairy Tail, while Natsu's one of the least favorite. He is just an example of the world's unfair part - the one's, who do literally nothing, have more than those who deserve it...

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they should call it ,, Natsu ,, not ,, Fairy tail,, his in spotlight always ...

Exactly.
Jul 18, 2014 3:20 PM

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Gray.
But Natsu cool too.
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Jul 18, 2014 3:33 PM

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Both of them are good

yet i prefer Natsu .. why ?
well , i don't find Natsu stuck in his past and he's always cheerful
while Gray always comes up with Ur Ur Ur Ur all the time

but on the other hand as some of you said yes Gray can show a lot of personalty development while Natsu don't

haha i think Natsu don't need that i love him as he is
Jul 18, 2014 5:37 PM

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Gray is so much cooler, cuter and better than that lame character Natsu.

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Both of them are good

yet i prefer Natsu .. why ?
well , i don't find Natsu stuck in his past and he's always cheerful
while Gray always comes up with Ur Ur Ur Ur all the time

but on the other hand as some of you said yes Gray can show a lot of personalty development while Natsu don't

haha i think Natsu don't need that i love him as he is


natsu is terrible. People prefer characters with actual development. Can't say the same for stupid Natsu.

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Minagatachi said:
Gray > Gajeel > Natsu.


/End thread

Plus this is an easy decision.

I hate Natsu and I love Gray-sama <3
Jul 20, 2014 1:45 AM
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Obviously Natsu.

Fire > Ice
Happy-go Airhead > Miserable gloomy head
Lucy > Juvia (in term of assets)
Red > Blue
Jul 21, 2014 8:48 AM

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Both are average. But i prefer Natsu than Gray (64/100 for Natsu and 62/100 for Gray)
Wendy however in her own class. Need more Gajeel and Laxus involvement in the story.
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