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Boomedan said: Tenchi_Ryu said: Pretty much. Boomedan, you're doing exactly what is considered the crime right now, giving the anime a low rating SOLELY because its doing things different than the manga, and thats not a good way to judge an anime ... And using the different scores of FMA and FMAB is not a accurate way of comparing, because MAL is loaded with people who thinks FMAB was better only because it followed the manga precisely, so their votes where very BIAS. And even then, the scores are very well distanced from each other, its not like FMAB is shitting on the original's score. You're generalising more than 150,000 people's scoring methods? Good way to get your point across. Did you even bother looking at my list? Ao has a 10/10 rating. FMA has 7/10 and FMAB has 10/10. I'm not saying I'm beginning to dislike this anime because it's taking a different path than the manga, I'm saying the way they're doing it, in my opinion, is blatantly bad. I wasn't talking about your literal MAL score, I was talking about your opinion that you shared with us, and THAT was a low rating, cause you said that the changes were BAD. I don't think its fair the anime is being judge because its not developing the way the anime did. Going from just watching the anime, everything has flowed in perfect order, nothing feels out of place. And for people's scores, MAL is absolutely the worst place to get good rankings, because of its biased weighted scores, and allowances of people rating series before they even finish it. |
| Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. Don't necessarily like that way of thinking and might even call it stupid but it's still understandable with how the story and characters are. Anyway, haven't read the manga so couldn't care less what it says. Watching the anime and thought this episode was great, that's enough for me. |
Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. It looks inconsistent and by the fact it is being called inconsistent means it didn't 'work just fine.' I haven't read the manga either but I think confronting spirits of doubt about Rin, getting Rin a newly reforged sword, and then having a quick change of heart for the worse right after all that effort looks cheesy. |
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Tenchi_Ryu said: those bias ranking do give a good indicator when a show is good though, like look at the top 5 oyu know their all good, even the haruhi movie while i hate to admit it, was actually really goodBoomedan said: Tenchi_Ryu said: Pretty much. Boomedan, you're doing exactly what is considered the crime right now, giving the anime a low rating SOLELY because its doing things different than the manga, and thats not a good way to judge an anime ... And using the different scores of FMA and FMAB is not a accurate way of comparing, because MAL is loaded with people who thinks FMAB was better only because it followed the manga precisely, so their votes where very BIAS. And even then, the scores are very well distanced from each other, its not like FMAB is shitting on the original's score. You're generalising more than 150,000 people's scoring methods? Good way to get your point across. Did you even bother looking at my list? Ao has a 10/10 rating. FMA has 7/10 and FMAB has 10/10. I'm not saying I'm beginning to dislike this anime because it's taking a different path than the manga, I'm saying the way they're doing it, in my opinion, is blatantly bad. I wasn't talking about your literal MAL score, I was talking about your opinion that you shared with us, and THAT was a low rating, cause you said that the changes were BAD. I don't think its fair the anime is being judge because its not developing the way the anime did. Going from just watching the anime, everything has flowed in perfect order, nothing feels out of place. And for people's scores, MAL is absolutely the worst place to get good rankings, because of its biased weighted scores, and allowances of people rating series before they even finish it. |
| Even without me reading the manga, I can sense a clear change in storytelling. Amaimon was offed way too quickly and easily. Angel doesn't seem to be much of a paladin if Rin can best him after just waking up from a stupor. Also, Mephisto is still annoying with his conspicuously suspicious persona. Only thing that interested me in this episode was the possibility that Yukio might have some of Satan's powers, or at least is not a normal human. Also, however irritating it might be for the viewer, I can completely see why Bon and Konekomaru would want nothing to do with Rin. It's only human. Whether or not the anime can execute a worthy coming-of-trust moment between them all is still up in the air, however. |
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| It was funn. Idk, I haven't read the manga, but the whole Konekomaru thing seems somewhat like a filler to me but whatever. I love Rin and Izumo! xD but since there hasn't been much stuff going on yet I haven't picked a favorite couple. One thing though, I think Amaimon was killed SUPER easily... It was probably to show Rin's power, but he's a top-class demon... I really wanna see a long fight where there's actually a chance that the other guy could win lol. It's kinda boring when Rin can just go crazy and take down the guy immediately. Well, the show started off pretty good, so I hope it'll live up to my expectations... |
Anime_Name said: Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. It looks inconsistent and by the fact it is being called inconsistent means it didn't 'work just fine.' I haven't read the manga either but I think confronting spirits of doubt about Rin, getting Rin a newly reforged sword, and then having a quick change of heart for the worse right after all that effort looks cheesy. It's only inconsistent if you want to nitpick. This isn't math. It involves human emotions which is often times anything but simple. Having the resolve to save someones life and fully support them, as a friend, isn't the same thing. People don't have to be so black and white. Don't even have to like someone to want to save them. If you did explain people that save their enemies. It's called being a decent person. Saving them then turning your back might seem like a stretch but it's understandable. If it was me I would have supported Rin and kept with it but that's easier said then done. Don't have a personal grudge to factor in, for one. Rin having that kind of link to someone that cost them family and friends could be a hard pill to swallow. The Satan thing aside Rin's power can be scary. Punching the wall was bad. Not exactly what I'd call a good trust building exercise. There's a difference between wanting someone to die, which they were pretty much begged to help, and being willing to trust them right off. It's as simple as that. Alive Rin ≠ friend Rin. |
TanrimAug 10, 2011 5:23 PM
| Paladin should have seemed stronger I guess they didn't want to do too much with him yet. oh and Ring seems overpowered. overpowered mc's are boring. damnit Rin you should have burnt her panties off too! still she looked hot there.... err hot and his flames.... bad pun. |
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Tanrim said: Anime_Name said: Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. It looks inconsistent and by the fact it is being called inconsistent means it didn't 'work just fine.' I haven't read the manga either but I think confronting spirits of doubt about Rin, getting Rin a newly reforged sword, and then having a quick change of heart for the worse right after all that effort looks cheesy. It's only inconsistent if you want to nitpick. This isn't math. It involves human emotions which is often times anything but simple. Having the resolve to save someones life and fully support them, as a friend, isn't the same thing. People don't have to be so black and white. Don't even have to like someone to want to save them. If you did explain people that save their enemies. It's called being a decent person. Saving them then turning your back might seem like a stretch but it's understandable. If it was me I would have supported Rin and kept with it but that's easier said then done. Don't have a personal grudge to factor in, for one. Rin having that kind of link to someone that cost them family and friends could be a hard pill to swallow. The Satan thing aside Rin's power can be scary. Punching the wall was bad. Not exactly what I'd call a good trust building exercise. There's a difference between wanting someone to die, which they were pretty much begged to help, and being willing to trust them right off. It's as simple as that. Alive Rin ≠ friend Rin. +1 |
Tenchi_Ryu said: i will add a +2 to your +1Tanrim said: Anime_Name said: Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. It looks inconsistent and by the fact it is being called inconsistent means it didn't 'work just fine.' I haven't read the manga either but I think confronting spirits of doubt about Rin, getting Rin a newly reforged sword, and then having a quick change of heart for the worse right after all that effort looks cheesy. It's only inconsistent if you want to nitpick. This isn't math. It involves human emotions which is often times anything but simple. Having the resolve to save someones life and fully support them, as a friend, isn't the same thing. People don't have to be so black and white. Don't even have to like someone to want to save them. If you did explain people that save their enemies. It's called being a decent person. Saving them then turning your back might seem like a stretch but it's understandable. If it was me I would have supported Rin and kept with it but that's easier said then done. Don't have a personal grudge to factor in, for one. Rin having that kind of link to someone that cost them family and friends could be a hard pill to swallow. The Satan thing aside Rin's power can be scary. Punching the wall was bad. Not exactly what I'd call a good trust building exercise. There's a difference between wanting someone to die, which they were pretty much begged to help, and being willing to trust them right off. It's as simple as that. Alive Rin ≠ friend Rin. +1 also why are they making sucha big deal its just bon and bald kid that are against rin, shiemi and izumi clearly stated they dont give a crap, nor does yukio, and pink haired kid doesnt seem all to phased either |
| cant believe that amimon died that easily. His brother didnt even care. lol The fact that satans son is there scares the shit outta him. If i was in the anime, i would've tried to stand on his side.before he went berserk he was friends with them and they got along well. but i guess they were over whelmed. |
| Some of Rin's classmates are afraid of him, and some still see him the same way as before. Also jeez, what's going on with Yukio? |
Tanrim said: Anime_Name said: Don't know why helping Rin then turning your back on him would be that big of a deal. Even if it's different in the manga that doesn't make it bad. Works fine this way. There's a difference between wanting someone you worked with and/or thought was a friend to die and wanting to trust and/or be friends with them. Doesn't take a genius to get that. It looks inconsistent and by the fact it is being called inconsistent means it didn't 'work just fine.' I haven't read the manga either but I think confronting spirits of doubt about Rin, getting Rin a newly reforged sword, and then having a quick change of heart for the worse right after all that effort looks cheesy. It's only inconsistent if you want to nitpick. This isn't math. It involves human emotions which is often times anything but simple. Having the resolve to save someones life and fully support them, as a friend, isn't the same thing. People don't have to be so black and white. Don't even have to like someone to want to save them. If you did explain people that save their enemies. It's called being a decent person. Saving them then turning your back might seem like a stretch but it's understandable. If it was me I would have supported Rin and kept with it but that's easier said then done. Don't have a personal grudge to factor in, for one. Rin having that kind of link to someone that cost them family and friends could be a hard pill to swallow. The Satan thing aside Rin's power can be scary. Punching the wall was bad. Not exactly what I'd call a good trust building exercise. There's a difference between wanting someone to die, which they were pretty much begged to help, and being willing to trust them right off. It's as simple as that. Alive Rin ≠ friend Rin. I am not nitpicking anything. I just said their all their actions didn't match up, that in some circles is called being inconsistent of course you can spin it as being complex but that is saying the same thing just with a nicer term. |
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| Episode good but a lot of unexplained things. Interested about Yukio's scar and Rin's harmless flames :D LOL @ clothes getting burned off. I thought that was a Negima trademark haha Btw...is Anaimon really dead? |
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| I haven't read the manga, but i think this episode kinda sucked. It felt too rushed -__- They spent a whole damned episode on Amaimon in the forest, and he was done in within 5minutes. Behemoth with a single attack. The repair of kurikura went imba fast, and the bunch traveled lightning fast too to be able to reach Rin just in the nick of time. What's with the hurry. |
KourihimeAug 11, 2011 10:22 PM
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Kourihime said: I haven't read the manga, but i think this episode kinda sucked. It felt too rushed -__- They spent a whole damned episode on Amaimon in the forest, and he was done in within 5minutes. Behemoth with a single attack. What's with the hurry. Well...he got his share in the previous episodes...it was fun, but I was getting kind of tired of him -_- I find him more like those useless boring chars, always running on my nerves xP Anyways everything was really too rushed in this one. |
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| "It's should've stuck with the manga" oh my goodneeeeesssss. Ok we heard you the first time manga fanboys. The fact of the matter is, it hasn't. Deal with it >.< Although they did butcher my main man AMAIMON!!!! booo. |
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| Rin went complete Black Rock Shooter when his eye lit with blue flames xD. |
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| i don't have any problem with the flow.. the only thing i hate is... cliffhanger!!! argggggggghhh.... |
| Spend two episodes fighting Amaimon. Kick his butt (after he has seemingly powered up) in two seconds after waking up from a coma. Wait what? And what a useless paladin. |
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amazing_zia said: Spend two episodes fighting Amaimon. Kick his butt (after he has seemingly powered up) in two seconds after waking up from a coma. Wait what? And what a useless paladin. The paladin was a bitch he is nothing more than comic relief I mean his sword fucking talks for crying out loud. They might as well made the sword a tsundere : -Paladin grabs hilt- "W-Where do you think your touching pervert!" -Kills demon- "I-It's not like I sliced it for you or anything...BAKA!" |
VioLinkAug 13, 2011 4:39 PM
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VioLink said: The paladin was a bitch he is nothing more than comic relief I mean his sword fucking talks for crying out loud. They might as well made the sword a tsundere : -Paladin grabs hilt- "W-Where do you think your touching pervert!" -Kills demon- "I-It's not like I sliced it for you or anything...BAKA!" Lol, this. The talking bit kinda broke the mood. I feel like Shura did more for that fight than the so called "paladin". |
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amazing_zia said: the dudes the son of satan, you people do relise how powerful that is right? honestly are you complainign about absurdness in this anime/manga cause that is no where near the most absurd thing that has even happened yetSpend two episodes fighting Amaimon. Kick his butt (after he has seemingly powered up) in two seconds after waking up from a coma. Wait what? And what a useless paladin. giant squid monster that became a pet to a man lost at sea sfor years(that somehow survived being out at see without any drinkable water and didnt die from mercury poisen of eating fish) yah thats fine but haveing a overpowered demon kill another demon is just absurd |
longshoremanX said: amazing_zia said: the dudes the son of satan, you people do relise how powerful that is right? honestly are you complainign about absurdness in this anime/manga cause that is no where near the most absurd thing that has even happened yetSpend two episodes fighting Amaimon. Kick his butt (after he has seemingly powered up) in two seconds after waking up from a coma. Wait what? And what a useless paladin. giant squid monster that became a pet to a man lost at sea sfor years(that somehow survived being out at see without any drinkable water and didnt die from mercury poisen of eating fish) yah thats fine but haveing a overpowered demon kill another demon is just absurd If he had initially had the brute strength to take down Amaimon it wouldn't be weird at all (granted boring, but. . .). It's the fact that he obviously had difficulty defeating Amaimon then in literally under one day, after arising straight from a coma, and Amaimon seems to be much stronger, he can do it. IMO, it just seems very inconsistent and confusing in a none too subtle effort to move the plot along, which also doesn't make much sense because the anime creators brought the extension of the fight up themselves (if it's eating screen time, why'd they put it in?). I'm not a huge fan of the squid episode either, but that was used for comedic purposes as a filler and therefore cannot really be judged on a scale of believibility. Nor does it discredit my claim on their inconsistency. |
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And1ce said: how could a demon and a human breed :S? The Anime never explains it, but the Manga does. But, pretty much, Satan possessed a human male and impregnated a human female. Fill in the blanks and there's your answer ;D RyuKirin said: Rin went complete Black Rock Shooter when his eye lit with blue flames xD. Looool! I never thought of it that way, but I guess he did! XD Anyways, MAJOR cliffhanger for this episode! Man - I am loving the Anime. I separate the Manga and Anime as best as I can, so I can score them/view them as different entities and then as I go on the side I put them side by side. Anyways, gotta go on to the next episode now ♥ |
| That Angel dude is kinda like a wimp...Amaimon pushed him off so easily but Rin pwned Amaimon like it was nothing... |
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| Izumo is now officially a tsundere. |
| I have so much respect for Shura. Not entirely following what the law says and doing what she thinks is best. Instead of mortifying the kid, she gave him a chance and looks out for him. Even her hesitation in the beginning was understandable, but she still valuead her teacher's word :) -Kamiki's pretty wicked too. Way to keep high and not crumble like a fool. Ehm *glasses kid...* -Bon's pissing me off too. MAKE UP YOUR MIND FOR GOD'S SAKE. -Uhm .. Shiemi..? Yeah..not much to comment there. -.- -RIN<3 I FEEL FOR YOU! STAY STRONG BUD !!! *o* |
| Good episode... Didn't expect Amaimon to die just like that. lol And Rin, you got some "awesome" flames right there. :D Shura looked really good in her kimono. And Yukio has dark spots in his shoulder. He must have some demon powers or something.. And Izumo is such a tsundere <3 |
| I kinda hoped that after the bit of fillers like in the next episode they would go back to the original storyline of the manga, but I kinda get dissapointed when they change the storyline like that. I hope they go back to normal after all and continue on with a Second season when there is enough material. |
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| Ok, this episode was really subpar considering how good the last two were. Now, I don't mind when in anime adaptations they decide to make the storyline differing from the manga, but now that I see the first episode with original content I wish they would have never done that. The battle was anticlimatic and rushed; the strongest Exorcist in the world and Shura get down in seconds while Rin, a rookie with no experience that can't control at all his powers, kills Amaimon in less time than it was needed for those 2 to get KOed (because the protagonist never loses, if it does, all the little boys that project their image on him will feel scared, right?); and Bon, after declaring that he'll defend Rin no matter what, suddenly turns against him. Not only this is a plot hole, but it makes the last episode entirely pointless (ok it was a filler, but you get my point). The second half was the best part, only because they sticked to the manga, which hasn't these issues, but it brought up plot points that aren't adressed yet in the original comic, so even those scenes could be considered pointless. 3/5 |
| Well, I wasn't all that impressed, but, I got by somehow. Looking forward to the next! |
| Mmmmmmmm Shura in some frilly pink panties. <3 |
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| Wow,Amaimon just got beaten in a mere seconds~ Everybody except Shiemi and Izumo find it hard to be with Rin anymore although they are friends a few episodes ago =( Yukio got some black scar(?) on his right arm, the sign of Satan's power perhaps? |
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| noooo Broccoli-kun!!! why'd he die T.T nooooooooooooo, no more funny dude running wild.. and he died so easily too, gosh not much effort in his death.. |
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| What was that thing on Yukio's arm.... |
 Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living. |
| Yukio is getting blue flames as well! It was a nice training scene. |
| It's like a batting cage with more violent projectiles. |
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| I'm gonna be really disappointed if Amaimon died so quickly (especially with Mephisto just watching) :S I mean he IS the "Earth King" ... I don't think he'd be so easily defeated ... right? O_O Well at least not everybody totally supports Rin right off the bat ... Bon is showing some reluctance too :P Training was awesome XD Rin totally failed to light the candles lol :P I love the interaction between Yukio and Shura XD Haven't fangirled about Yukio for a while ... he's got something on his arm! D: I wonder if he's got the flames too, and it's just been dormant until now? Hrm ... o_O Shura certainly seems to think that's a possibility (ALSO THE SPY). ALSO LOL RIN BURNED ALL THEIR CLOTHES XD Kamiki at the end was awesome! :3 I really do like her XD I guess what she said explains why Shiemi didn't feel the flames at all ... I wonder what that thing at the end was ... it was targeting Konekomura too! :O |
Blind_Guardian said: I went ahead and watched the fight, which was pretty awesome if incredibly short. Amaimon CRUSHED Shura and AAA, and then was effortlessly smashed into gravel in turn by his little brother's Satan-sword. ... As EvianBubble also mentioned, this show does seem to be having some dramatic power swings. Even when Rin's sword was released in his first battle with Amaimon, he was still dramatically outclassed. I'm not sure if we're supposed to assume that his newfound determination, implied offscreen training with Shura, or some manipulation by Mephisto to weaken Amaimon has occured, but I certainly didn't expect a demon king to go down THAT easily. Maybe the show just "forgot" about the already established power levels or maybe there's something else going on here. It could be that Amaimon isn't even dead and it was all a show staged by Mephisto to persuade the Vatican. Honestly, that's what I think happened at the moment, as I find it hard to believe Amaimon would lose so easily and Mephisto is obviously a master trickster. Maybe Amaimon fading into flames was Mephisto using some demonic power to forcefully summon him back to Gehanna. |
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| Okay, so they all saved him, but now most of them are scared of him? I guess it makes sense. So many nickname-things this episode! And finally, WHAT HAPPENED TO AMAIMON?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I love him!!!!!!! |
| I love Rin's Screams when he fail xD |
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| To bad for Rin, people don't trust him anymore. Candle training also a bit hilarious. |
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| Amaimon was killed really easily... |
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