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Dec 8, 2010 1:41 AM
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Inoue Shin-ichiro, the president of Kadokawa Shoten, announced in his twitter that Kadokawa will boycott Tokyo International Anime Fair 2011(TAF2010) to protest against the anime & manga regulation bill submitted by Tokyo Metropolitan Government. The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". The revised regulation bill proposes to prohibit the publishers to sell minors (under 18) anime and manga which: 1. provoke sexual sensation or induce crimes. 2. positively describe illegal sexual acts or incest. Numbers of groups have opposed to the regulation bill because: 1. the administration can make arbitrary interpretations by the ambiguous expressions of the bill. 2. there is no scientific evidence that proves sexual expressions in anime and manga could disturb the building of children's judgement on sex. 3. the distribution of manga and anime will be severely restricted once designated as adult materials (e.g. selling at convenience stores and airing on TV will be prohibited) List of groups opposing to the new bill Japan Cartoonists Association Manga Japan Comic Authors in the 21st Century Japan P.E.N. Club Japan Playwrights Association Japan Civil Liberties Union Tokyo Lawyers Association Publication Ethics Committee Publication Distribution Control Committee Japan Federation of Publishing Workers' Unions Japan Writers Guild Japan Federation of Bar Association Japan Society for Studies in Cartoon and Comics Source: Inoue's tweet, Wikipedia |
dtshykDec 8, 2010 1:44 AM
Dec 8, 2010 1:59 AM
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For the record, I'm supporting the Bill. As for this article, I have my comments and they're underlined dtshyk said: Inoue Shin-ichiro, the president of Kadokawa Shoten, announced in his twitter that Kadokawa will boycott Tokyo International Anime Fair 2011(TAF2010) to protest against the anime & manga regulation bill submitted by Tokyo Metropolitan Government. The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". (Wow. Just because you earn more than them doesn't mean you can call them "lowly". Remember that mangaka can reach out to a large section of the voting population) The revised regulation bill proposes to prohibit the publishers to sell minors (under 18) anime and manga which: 1. provoke sexual sensation or induce crimes. 2. positively describe illegal sexual acts or incest. (Ambiguous. If you consider exhibitionism to be an illegal sexual act, then we'll have no more fanservice) Numbers of groups have opposed to the regulation bill because: 1. the administration can make arbitrary interpretations by the ambiguous expressions of the bill. 2. there is no scientific evidence that proves sexual expressions in anime and manga could disturb the building of children's judgement on sex. (AGREED. Lots of us have had some contact with porn, but are we all criminals?) 3. the distribution of manga and anime will be severely restricted once designated as adult materials (e.g. selling at convenience stores and airing on TV will be prohibited) (I think that's the point, right? You'd rather your kids be reading their textbooks instead of manga titled 'Bondage Mama' or something like that) List of groups opposing to the new bill Publication Ethics Committee (I find it funny that the Ethics Committee would oppose the Bill) I repeat, I support the Bill. It's just that this article is too silly to ignore |
Dec 8, 2010 2:00 AM
#3
FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!! i wish i can attend that xD |
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Dec 8, 2010 2:00 AM
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dtshyk said: The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". Now this chairperson should get sacked. Some mangaka could have gone to be business man or other profession but they wanted to be in this industry for a reason. Passion. Just who the hell the chairperson think he/she is?! This is absurd. |
Dec 8, 2010 2:10 AM
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Deathnosis said: dtshyk said: The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". Now this chairperson should get sacked. Some mangaka could have gone to be business man or other profession but they wanted to be in this industry for a reason. Passion. Just who the hell the chairperson think he/she is?! This is absurd. That person is Shintaro Ishihara and he's known to xenophobic attitude towards foreigners and other controversial statements. That guy is a right-wing turd |
Dec 8, 2010 2:11 AM
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shanimebib said: I am all for the bill. Too many ecchi/incest shows recently degraded the overall quality of anime/manga. With this, many will start working on non-perverted creations. that aside, calling mangaka 'lowly' was outrageous. the governor should offer a public apology. That. |
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Dec 8, 2010 2:25 AM
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I'm not in support of the bill. Honestly, just leave things as they are.. BlueCyanide said: FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!! i wish i can attend that xD ^ And i second this comment. |
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Dec 8, 2010 3:24 AM
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xxxholic_wing said: Deathnosis said: dtshyk said: The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". Now this chairperson should get sacked. Some mangaka could have gone to be business man or other profession but they wanted to be in this industry for a reason. Passion. Just who the hell the chairperson think he/she is?! This is absurd. That person is Shintaro Ishihara and he's known to xenophobic attitude towards foreigners and other controversial statements. That guy is a right-wing turd I see...thanks for the info. |
Dec 8, 2010 3:36 AM
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shanimebib said: shanimebib said: I am all for the bill. Too many ecchi/incest shows recently degraded the overall quality of anime/manga. With this, many will start working on non-perverted creations. that aside, calling mangaka 'lowly' was outrageous. the governor should offer a public apology. That. Really? When has censorship of media in this way ever actually had the desired effect? If you honestly think that's the way it works, I wonder what kind of weird world you live in. It may have some kind of substantial effect, but certainly not the one you described. And while many of the recent shows may suck, I bristle at the implication that ecchi is inherently low-quality. That being said, I'd have no problem with the bill if it weren't for the vagueness of it. You can't legally buy porn or ultra-violent stuff as a minor in most of the rest of the world, so why should it be any different in Japan? This bill is much less ridiculous than the previous one seeking to outright ban loli. As far as the TAF and Ishihara are concerned, I was already well aware of who he was and what he's all about, but I didn't know he was the chairman of TAF. That almost just seems too bizarre to be true, considering who he is and how he feels (and has often said) about anime in general. |
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Dec 8, 2010 4:20 AM
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I don't agree on them calling mangaka "lowly people". |
Dec 8, 2010 4:36 AM
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Dec 8, 2010 4:36 AM
#12
What a stupid thing to say, calling the mangaka lowly people? Guy needs a slap to the face. |
Dec 8, 2010 6:42 AM
#14
F*** them |
Dec 8, 2010 7:37 AM
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Good move, Inoue Shinichiro is my new idol. ^^ Also, otakuthon49 said: The irony is that this guy is the chairman of the TAF that calls mangaka "lowly people"... Come on, why are you the chairman in the first place? QFT. |
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Dec 8, 2010 8:48 AM
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When I seen Shintaro on this topic, I knew that this boycott was made of absolute fail. This guy is the Fred Phelps of Japan. He even wants older women who aren't able to bear children to die. He needs to jump in a river. |
HoppyDec 8, 2010 8:56 AM
Dec 8, 2010 9:31 AM
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Deathnosis said: dtshyk said: The chairperson of TAF executive committee is the governor of Tokyo, who strongly supports the bill and have called mangaka "lowly people". Some mangaka could have gone to be business man or other profession but they wanted to be in this industry for a reason. Passion. Just who the hell the chairperson think he/she is?! This is absurd. Exactly my thoughts! Why did he become the chairman of an anime-based committee in the first place? Many anime would not exist without these so-called "lowly people". zombieguy said: That being said, I'd have no problem with the bill if it weren't for the vagueness of it. I agree~ |
Dec 8, 2010 9:48 AM
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mikhailn said: For the record, I'm supporting the Bill. Same. If there is a significant/apparent rate (increase) of crime, drug use, rape, corruption, other sickening things after this bill has been passed, then get rid of it. Otherwise keep it implemented. |
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Dec 8, 2010 11:26 AM
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Dec 8, 2010 12:05 PM
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Dec 8, 2010 12:56 PM
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Deleted all posts that simply quote another user and say "this" or something of the like, as these are pointless '+1' posts. |
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Dec 8, 2010 1:34 PM
#23
I do hope for Kimura's sake that the bill doesn't pass. And I of course, don't support it either. Anything that attempts to box in freedom of expression needs to be killed with fire. |
Dec 8, 2010 1:42 PM
#24
The bill will clearly be misused and will hurt the industry as a whole. I have no problem with making it difficult for kids to buy seinen, that's just common sense. This bill won't be used for just that though. Instead it will force seinen magazines out of business because most stores won't be allowed to carry them. It's the same reason why you never see any AO rated games in the US. Nobody will make them because they don't sell well Why? Most stores won't carry them. Personally I'd rather not sacrifice great manga like Berserk just to get rid of all of the crappy fanservice stuff which can just as easily be ignored. |
Dec 8, 2010 5:10 PM
#25
Not this wreck again. If he calls magaka ''lowly people'' then I wonder what he is since he's the chairman of Tokyo International Anime Fair. I think he's already senile. Let's see wha he did: Cut metropolitan spending projects, including plans for a new Toei Subway line, and proposed the sale or leasing out of many metropolitan facilities. He imposed new tax and restrictions among other things. He set up the ShinGinko Tokyo bank to lend to SMEs in Tokyo. This bank has lost approximately 1 billion dollars worth of taxpayer's money through inadequate customer risk assessments. I honestly don't understand how a wreck like him is the governor of Japan. |
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Dec 8, 2010 5:26 PM
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Ishihara (that Tokyo Governer who said 'Mangakas are lowly people', 'Gays have genetic defect', etc etc.) has always been like that. Nothing new, honestly. Japanese chose him like twice consecutively, so meh. |
Dec 9, 2010 3:23 AM
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The only thing that puts me to easy is that I hardly think it will pass, I mean, sane people still exist within the trenches of governments around the world and right wing lunatics are dwelling with every generation. I am 25 now, and rest assure most people directly older than me (35-ish) that are about to crawl to important decision making positions are only leaning towards more reasonable stances with every insane comment the current top tier politics spill out, for that I thank you Ishihara-san! You are indeed paving the way to a better tomorrow ¬¬ |
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Dec 9, 2010 8:28 AM
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For those who support the bill. It looks good in the short term, however restricting so much anime will lead to the loss of many good people in the industry (most creators of ecchi and hentai chose this path and were not forced into it) and may lead to it's rapid downfall in 3-7 years after the bill takes effect. |
Dec 9, 2010 3:49 PM
#29
i like the bill. actually...i LOVE the bill because all the echii is driving me nuts, and i feel really sterotyped as a girl =A= but i cant forgive the fact that they called mangakas "lowly people" |
Dec 9, 2010 8:16 PM
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darknessneko said: i like the bill. actually...i LOVE the bill because all the echii is driving me nuts, and i feel really sterotyped as a girl =A= but i cant forgive the fact that they called mangakas "lowly people" uh you do know that most american cartoons also stereotype females aswell as males all the time, have you ever heard of "Totally Spies"? and there are many other cartoons that also stereotype girls...Also ecchi is mostly just for fun your obviously not going to encounter anything as ecchi as the girls in those Anime every single day of your life everywhere, Overall i'm kind of 60/40 regarding the bill because it's more than obvious that they don't like mangakas and they probably think that it is "corrupting" children's young minds to make them think about ecchi characters, Why of all times are they doing this now anyway? Ecchi has been going around for years but they decide this now? and i wonder how they are going to deal with the situation with all the companies who oppose the bill.For the other side its decent enough to say that its not really right for someone who is younger to be watching/reading that kind of entertainment but chances are they will be able to find something else like doujinshi..so the bill won't affect as much as that anyway.....someone needs to do something about him calling mangakas lowly people |
Dec 9, 2010 11:20 PM
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FFUU "lowly people"?? Go die! WTF did he become the chairmen??! |
Dec 10, 2010 6:42 AM
#32
That bill sucks... as suck as mindless ecchi anime. Why call them lowly people? Is he implying that he is a better one? Or did hidden message from good series that racism sucks shoot his brains? |
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Dec 15, 2010 12:05 AM
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shanimebib said: shanimebib said: I am all for the bill. Too many ecchi/incest shows recently degraded the overall quality of anime/manga. With this, many will start working on non-perverted creations. that aside, calling mangaka 'lowly' was outrageous. the governor should offer a public apology. That. It doesn't only effect ecchi and incest anime. It will also effect anything that is deemed too violent. Shows like Higurashi, Baccano!, Evangleion, and Elfen Lied would be effected as well. Anything that could be considered "harmful" to children will be targeted. |
Dec 15, 2010 2:12 PM
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VampireKisses568 said: shanimebib said: shanimebib said: I am all for the bill. Too many ecchi/incest shows recently degraded the overall quality of anime/manga. With this, many will start working on non-perverted creations. that aside, calling mangaka 'lowly' was outrageous. the governor should offer a public apology. That. It doesn't only effect ecchi and incest anime. It will also effect anything that is deemed too violent. Shows like Higurashi, Baccano!, Evangleion, and Elfen Lied would be effected as well. Anything that could be considered "harmful" to children will be targeted. Bill 156's Total Scope. Should answer your question. Those shows were already under the regulation which stated “Any material that may be detrimental toward the healthy development of youth because of their capacity to be sexually stimulating, encourages cruelty, and/or may compel suicide or criminal behavior.” and still get permission for airing. The new regulation however adds “Any manga, animation, or pictures (but not including real life pictures or footage) that features either sexual or pseudo sexual acts that would be illegal in real life, or sexual or pseudo sexual acts between close relatives whose marriage would be illegal*, where such depictions and / or presentations unjustifiably glorify or exaggerate the activity.” limits the scope to ecchi and incest shows in particular. and when i said ecchi, i think i should also restrict it to ecchi involving underage characters mostly. Edit: Also, if you read the scope, you will clearly be able to link Ore no Imouto latest opening which took the opportunity to show the characters are NOT under the age of 13. Coincidence? I seriously don't think so. as for Kirino shippers, forget about her getting an Aniki ending. doesn't concern me, since I watch that show for Manami and Kuroneko |
shanimebibDec 15, 2010 2:29 PM
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Dec 15, 2010 7:50 PM
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shanimebib said: as for Kirino shippers, forget about her getting an Aniki ending. doesn't concern me, since I watch that show for Manami and Kuroneko Sorry to disspoint you lord genius, but IIRC Novels are not affected by this bill. So there is still chance of a Aniki ending in the LN. Kinda makes sense why Novels are not affected, considering how Ishihara wrote a few rape novels himself. |
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Dec 15, 2010 7:55 PM
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Dec 19, 2010 10:10 PM
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leeahseng said: F*** them |
Dec 20, 2010 10:03 PM
#38
I don't think a lot of you understand the seriousness of this shitty ban. If you don't like ecchi animes/incest.. then fine.. but this bill is going to far, it's going to hit them pretty hard imo. I can see dvd sales heavily affected by this.. (in the negatives) |
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