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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- What a fucking horrible and totally pathetic story, first of all the plot barely moved at all on it's firsts 12-15 chapters, It was extremely slow and made me yawn a lot of times, second, suddenly, a random day, a common day, this poor bastard hikikomori has a extremely beautiful big-titted woman in his house out of nowhere and 1 month later she fucks with this weird jacko-freak (not including the fact that he has a monster cock) and pleases her until the climax. Is just unacceptable the fact that he is just a normal guy 6 years later after being victim of his own imprisonment on the room for 15 years. No... just no. No, really, what a mishmash of bullshit. The ending was horrible as well. Although I will admit that it had a lot of potential on it's first 2 chapters, but whatever, I had to see how this was going to end. |
| Well I must say that agree with you..it was a terrible ending.... |
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| Man, what a fucking buzz kill. Both of them are crazy anyway. |
I have to agree on the fact that the ending was bad, but I found the story to be pretty good till the end. Also, becoming a normal guy 6 years later is completely reasonable. The only reason he was able to sustain his life in his room was because he was being supported by his father and mother-in-law. After being only given a enough money to live, he has to learn exactly how to not waste money and only buy the necessities, which he didn't do at all in the beginning and thus got a taste of starvation. After that, everything else comes quite naturally, that is: the need for extra money, getting a job, acquiring a social life, creating relationships with other people, and so on and so forth. Of course he can always manage to get stuck on this path, but 6 years is more than enough time to do this. Now as for how he managed to get his own restaurant and a family of his own, that was probably something along the lines of working at a restaurant, becoming liked by either the owner or his daughter, marry the daughter either through her directly or through her father, and finally inheriting the restaurant - not necessarily in this order... I still didn't like the ending though. It was much too unfair for the woman. I remember bawling my eyes out as I ranted about how it should have gone, but that was quite a long time ago... |
Karura said: Man, what a fucking buzz kill. Both of them are crazy anyway. Understatement of the year! I always hate coming across manga that has absurd characters that I never ever want to meet or associate in real life. It's as if the characters have no common sense and just act like animals who can only manage to wear clothes and try their best not to scream like apes. 3/10 (What an absurd manga!) |
| Just reading the other comments on the ending, it's seems that most people have a highly romanticized idea of the world. That or they hope for romantic endings to their mangas. Did I like the ending of this manga? Not really, it felt rushed towards the end. However, I felt it did end more realistically than some other mangas. Truth be told, he settled for that other girl (or so it would seem), and that's what 95% of us would do. You don't keep hoping that the girl that walked out on you (even if it was out of "love") would magically come back into your life, instead you settle. |
| "To be ignorant and to be deceived are two different things. To be ignorant is to be a slave of the world. To be deceived is to be the slave of another man. The question will always be: Why, when all men are ignorant, and therefore already slaves, does this latter slavery sting us so?" ~ R. Scott Baker |
| @Xirad Realistic? The whole story was about some NEET who leeches off his parents and never cared for his parents. His father then meets some woman with daddy issues and marries him. The NEET, who had no female contact, immediately latches onto her and "falls in love" because she's the only female figure he noticed. The daddy's girl then proceeds to take on some motherly role after the old man dies... TL;DR: NEET pity story that also includes incest. >_> MESSED UP! |
| It started off interesting. The plot was interesting. However, the ending was really poorly done. It just seem rushed and incredibly lame. |
| Quoted over from other thread, my thoughts. I would have like to see the two of them together at the end but it wasnt really all that clear how she thought of him. I did feel like their relationship was forced and I wondered wether she was just doing it to heal him. What was with the last dinner why did it show the bowl? and what did he mean by was that a message? Perhaps how she recoiled away when she saw his thing and said I cant do it and told him at first that he couldnt "eat her" was suppost to be a sign that she was forcing herself to do it. The fact that she washed his pants was suppost to show a motherly responsability I dont know. Did she mean what she said about she would like him if he became more caring or was that just another ploy? The story sort of winded in on itself, making it hard to follow. Her feelings didnt come across very clearly. Was that diary entry to show that she thought of him as his mother and the one after showing a feeling of guilt of what she was planning to do. Were her tears of joy at the end? Given time and the fact that you dont see the other person I think most people would move on. His feelings for her were probably not real, she was probably just a "host" as it said. She was the first female he had seen in 15 years so it was natural to find himself attracted to her. The flashes of his fathers face were signs of guilt on his behalf i think. The more that I think about it the more I feel that his feelings were false and that she was forcing herself in order to heal him. I think the councilor ment to use the GF angle to heal him but he wouldnt accept her. She saw that he "liked" his mother and suggested that angle to his mother but told her to consider her future before doing it. That would explain why she hung around for a while afterwards, giving advise and support. It would also tie in with the councilor's comment about not having time and having to speed things up. Later his mother sat there pondering over the not "having time". The diary entry seemed to confirm that she saw him as a son (and his father as a husband) and that she felt guilty by what she was doing. Im pretty sure that his father was the only one she loved romantically, she kept looking at his shrine in the last few chapters. The manga title translates out to 'maternal feelings' which is the moverly love feeling. In the end he read the diary and discovered her true feelings and motivation. With time he came to an understanding of how he truely felt(perhaps relised that his feelings were false and reconised the guilt of what he had done(flashing fathers face during sex)) and moved on. He could now consider her as his mother? All that being said it was a confusing manga and I cant say I liked it due to that. What were there feelings for each other? who knows. Was that image of her crying, down cast eyes and awquard atmosphere around the house ment to show forced romance? Were her tears at the end of sorrow or joy that he had moved on? (Im thinking joy) Personally i dont like having to think about things too much, look for meanings and having to use my imagination, I prefer to be spoon fed stuff even if the story turns out to be cliche. Having thought about this sorty and sharing my insights about it I have improved my opinion of it a little. I hope my thoughts on this manga help others to understand the story a litte better as they did for me. |
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Mao_black said: Was that woman at the end his wife? thats really all im curious about. the one with the little kid was his wife. |
| I like this manga, even if it has its own "mistakes". Other shojo mangas also contain a lot of foolish and unrealistic stuff sometimes. At least this story shows us what a big problem the hikikomori phenomenon means to Japan nowadays. I'm happy that it ended absolute positvely. |
| Don't belive in yourself! Belive in me who belives in you! (TTGL) XD ...LOVE and PEACE!! ^_^ |
| I was pretty disappointed as well... but at least it was a happy ending |
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| Wow! I can't believe the amount of people that thought the ending sucked. I thought it was great. I actually cried a few tears. I didn't make any efforts to analyze things too deeply. It was a work of fiction and purely for entertainment. However, from what I surmised, Haruka genuinely loved Shintarou's father and wanted to grant his wish for his son to come out of his room and live life as a normal person. Her methods, though unconventional, were quite effective. I'm glad that Shintarou found that diary and finally understood Haruka's motive. I believe that was the catalyst for Shintarou to actually try to "live" instead of "exist." Seeing Shintarou married (presumably) and with a child was Haruka's happy ending. |
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| with how the first chapter went i thought the rest would be good but it end rushed, i guess i just expected more than i should have. |
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| damn I hate the ending.. so the kid in the end was not his and haruka's daughter?? damn |
My Grandmother Always said.. He who walks through the path of heaven will rule over everything.. |
| I remember being slightly depressed after reading the final chapter, I think I read the final chapter RAW too, so I was a little confused but eventually read the English scanlation soon after......that was like 3 or so years ago. I sorta liked the manga but I also remember thinking how "fucked up" it was, but then again it's what I expect from the mangaka of GANTZ to do with a premise like that. |
| Their relationship was really forced in the story so I am glad they didn't end up together. It was mmkay 6/10. |
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| what? the ending was good. it was a good thing he didnt get with haruka or he didnt learn anything. she got him with almost out of pity and you sick fucks want her to stay with him? nothanksjeff. in the end, he got with a diff woman and had a kid with that woman, NOT haruka's. and to op, wtf? if you've been getting Cs and Bs all your life in school (~10 years) and then you suddenly start getting As in college, that's impossible? damn. sucks to be you. guess change is impossible for some people. inb4 he tells me he's an A student all his life. brb doesnt know what change is brb never lifted brb never started his career |
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| Well this was the author of Gantz...so didn't really expect much. |
| It had a good start and an interesting premise (not that it is unique, but still.) Anyway, the ending was so bad I feel like crying lol. Could've been executed better. Meh. Disappointing. |
Ayame0126 said: I'll pretend the last two panels didn't exist. good idea :( |
| Disappointing effort by Hiroka. The ending was rushed, and the whole story was way too unbelievable to have true emotional impact. I |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| It is hard to understand why some manga are rushed. The ending was sad but mature, what really pisses me off is that Haruka probably marry that guy with the rich car and kept an eye on the loser. At the end i believe she was crying alone and the loser no longer a loser but with a family. I am confuse and sad wanting to see more of the manga but like the ending that won't happen as i wish it. Overall i enjoy the reading and the ending broke my expectations. |
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| It was a total half assed ending. |
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I have to agree on the fact that the ending was bad, but I found the story to be pretty good till the end. Also, becoming a normal guy 6 years later is completely reasonable. The only reason he was able to sustain his life in his room was because he was being supported by his father and mother-in-law. After being only given a enough money to live, he has to learn exactly how to not waste money and only buy the necessities, which he didn't do at all in the beginning and thus got a taste of starvation. After that, everything else comes quite naturally, that is: the need for extra money, getting a job, acquiring a social life, creating relationships with other people, and so on and so forth. Of course he can always manage to get stuck on this path, but 6 years is more than enough time to do this. Now as for how he managed to get his own restaurant and a family of his own, that was probably something along the lines of working at a restaurant, becoming liked by either the owner or his daughter, marry the daughter either through her directly or through her father, and finally inheriting the restaurant - not necessarily in this order... I still didn't like the ending though. It was much too unfair for the woman. I remember bawling my eyes out as I ranted about how it should have gone, but that was quite a long time ago... Even though this is a 6 year old review. You're very right. I was pretty sad at the ending too. The premise of the manga was stupid. It picked up a little towards the middle-end. But then it just came crashing down again. I'm still glad I read it though. Made me feel crappy -- and when a manga can make you feel something, it's always worth it, right? Main character was a douche. Glad he sort of redeemed himself in the end. |
| It was very cliche and I feel it didn't accurately represent a hikikomori, but more so the tropes attached with them. Good concept, bad execution. |
| It was pretty good until they started dating |
| wow |
| it seemed like a good manga until she illogically started dating him, then i just felt so disconnected from the story from that point on, cause it all felt so forced and unrealistic... |
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| Well, it was a beautiful story, at first I thought that I would not end up liking, but I was wrong ... woww I was surprised that end, I expected them to meet again and this time maybe they could stay together, even so I can not say that I disliked, but it does not leave me completely satisfied. |
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| Oh man, this ending sucks. I get that she thinks he needed to be on his own in order to get better, but she could've helped some more and I feel like she could've gone about it in a different way. I guess I should've expected this from the Gantz author. Also, for y'all saying that it isn't an accurate depiction of the life of a hikikomori/neet: What would've made this story more accurate? |
  Life has no meaning, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't live it  |
| I want to say that I read this like a decade or more ago and I still remember what happens in this and how it felt like I was being hit by a tonne of bricks. It's funny how I remember the entire story of this but can't remember how Planetes ended. |
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