He is clearly the hero of the story, the only one who made the world peace to good people, change my mind |
| well logically speaking it's ryuk since he is the one who dropped the death note |
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| I don't like Light but ngl I would like him to write Putin's name 😅 |
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| Nah would just rather call you a sociopath. |
| Light was nothing more than a serial killer with a god complex. Any talk of creating a better world is just a means to justify his behaviour. |
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| He straight up killed a dozen or so FBI agents, alongside the wife of one of them who were all innocent as far as the story was concerned. He's very much the protagonist, and yes his actual goal at it's core was for peace, but he wasn't a good person, thus not the hero. |
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| "Light yagami is the hero of death note" Yes, because he sacrificed his personal desires and ambitions for the good of all mankind...oh wait, he forced his ideals on everyone and committed crimes even against innocent people along the guilty ones, does that count as act of heroism? |
| Yes Light Yagami is the hero because he sacrificed his soul for bringing the mankind to justice. He lost his father was even ready to sacrifice his sister for that. Near and L are the enemies of true justice. |
| I mean, sure I guess. Why should I change your mind??? |
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| He simply just gave death sentence to people justice system already found quilty, who were in trial or who were on polices' radar. How can we know crimes that often are not reported (sexual harasment, domestic abuse etc.) are not present in the World Light "created". And I'm 100% certain most crimes around the World would go unnoticed by him simply because his information sources rely on languages he knows. Plus like others have said Light killed innocent people, and used other people to save himself. He was just on a power trip. |
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| Light's justice is true justice, Kira is our god |
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| You might agree with him, but he is clearly the villain based on the narrative structure of the story. He's a false hero. L is the real protagonist. As for changing your mind, well, people can believe all kinds of wrong shit. It's their choice. |
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| He was too stupid and egotistical to be a hero. What he did was a bandade approach when the Death Note in actuality would have given him ability to make mass societal changes that would last beyond his own life and wouldn't rely on fear. Fear is a failed motivator for lasting change. Seriously he only focused on killing criminals when he could have been manipulating world leaders and billionaires. |
alshu said: Yes, because he sacrificed his personal desires and ambitions for the good of all mankind... it's amazing how many people forget that this is what makes a hero. I blame the mcu/disney. protagonist? yes. hero? no. |
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| Crime is a symptom of broader societal issues. An authoritarian crack-down on crime through the rule of fear would in no way bring world peace. Light was a child who succumbed to the power he thought he could control because absolute power corrupts absolutely. |
 "The kindest person in the room is often the smartest." All failures of the individual are the failure of society to provide the means by which they could have achieved success. |
| Hardly, the justice system exists for a reason. Next time I'll just accuse Weidman of heinous crimes online if I want their position at work, they'll drop dead without due process after all. |
| It's Just Messiah Saviour Complex nothing else, most people think like this as in society they view stuff with their "sense of justice" glasses so anything not aligning with them is bad, like light did things good for society as law is failing to do so but who will keep him in check and later it turned out as he is silencing anyone who is trying to go against him so it's just he killed people who didn't align with his ideology so light ain't a hero he is just a douche with book that can kill anyone, give that to anyone and most humans got narcissistic tendencies and they will do the same things as light did. |
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My first glimpse at how broken and meaningless is this english word was when in my country they started selling hero sandwiches with pictures of WWE fighters on their package. A sandwich so large you had to be a hero to eat it. Wow! PS When you think about it, this is the giveaway why Light is no hero - he only eats chips like a wuss, instead of giant manly sandwiches like a true bro... |
alshuMar 22, 2022 7:47 AM
| We all need to learn first abut the definitions of protagonist, antagonist, hero, villain, anti-hero, anti-villain, etc. Because Light is clearly an anti-villain protagonist. |
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alshu said: My first glimpse at how broken and meaningless is this english word was when in my country they started selling hero sandwiches with pictures of WWE fighters on their package. A sandwich so large you had to be a hero to eat it. Wow! that was the most american thing I heard in a while. alshu said: PS When you think about it, this is the giveaway why Light is no hero - he only eats chips like a wuss, instead of giant manly sandwiches like a true bro... that gave me a good laugh! wonder if MHA sandwiches would sell, japan has all sort of crazy cake sandwiches. |
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TheFireNinja said: traed said: Fear is a failed motivator for lasting change. Yeah. Even if the police couldn't stop him, who's to say that there wouldn't be people who would get tired of living in fear and rebel against him? To what end would he stop at killing people just to preserve his own ideologies and sense of power? Well just look how things work now. Death penalty has proven a failed deterrent. People who commit crimes like murder arent concerned about consequences because they are incapable of thinking about that. Plus he shortened his lifespan using the deathnote. After a while people will see nothing supernatural happens to them anymore. Actually I kind of wonder if the whole thing was a critique of Japans justice system which assumes guilty before proven innocent. Aside from people in his way he easily could have killed innocent people. |
| One thing I like a lot about Death Note is that it kind of left it open to interpretation who the real hero is. Because it specifically mentions several times that Light's plan was WORKING. Crime rates dropped to almost zero. The world for regular individuals became a much better place. He killed a few innocents in the process, sure, but ultimately, his goal was achieved. Whether he was a hero or not comes down to personal values. Does the end justify the means? Some people would say yes, some would say no. It is a great parallel to debates we are having in the real world about stuff like total observation and erasure of privacy for everyone, or opressive justice systems that incarcerate everyone who MIGHT have done something, just to be on the safe side. |
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kizumi91 said: Make the world peace by killing people that got on his way ??? Then this guy must be a saint .............. and he isn't? |
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katsucats said: You might agree with him, but he is clearly the villain based on the narrative structure of the story. He's a false hero. L is the real protagonist. As for changing your mind, well, people can believe all kinds of wrong shit. It's their choice. Light is a villain protagonist, L is the hero antagonist. The narrative structure has Light in the pov. A protagonist is any character you follow in a story. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainProtagonist |
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Jim_Heart said: We all need to learn first abut the definitions of protagonist, antagonist, hero, villain, anti-hero, anti-villain, etc. Because Light is clearly an anti-villain protagonist. Having good intentions doesn't make you an anti villain. A lot of anime villains have good intentions. In order to be an anti villain, the character needs to be given a lot of sympathetic Light and grey zone. Light was never meant to be sympathized with. He is a clear cut villain protagonist. |
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alshu said: "Light yagami is the hero of death note" Yes, because he sacrificed his personal desires and ambitions for the good of all mankind...oh wait, he forced his ideals on everyone and committed crimes even against innocent people along the guilty ones, does that count as act of heroism? That's actually part of the plot of the Dune books, but on a much greater scale. |
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Hraktuus said: alshu said: "Light yagami is the hero of death note" Yes, because he sacrificed his personal desires and ambitions for the good of all mankind...oh wait, he forced his ideals on everyone and committed crimes even against innocent people along the guilty ones, does that count as act of heroism? That's actually part of the plot of the Dune books, but on a much greater scale. What kind of superficial read of the books paints Paul Atreides as a hero? Like for a period of time he acted like savior of the Fremen but actually manipulated them and exploited their religion for his personal revenge and political gains. His son Leto is even worst. Note: Originally this topic was in the main anime discussion forum, this is when I posted in it. I am fan of the Death Note manga, not the anime. |
alshuApr 6, 2022 11:55 PM
Weidman said: He is clearly the hero of the story, the only one who made the world peace to good people, change my mind So you believe in no criminal no crime bullshit... |
| More like a villain...power corrupts people. |
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| From the perspective of a psychopath criminal, everything is justified. Looting and killing innocent people? all good because the world is cruel. In their eyes, people more well off than them are villains, so they think of themselves as heroes. Rings any bells? Because that's what light Yagami is. Lelouch > Eren > Light Yagami Lelouch was driven by revenge, but still he was sane enough to try creating a world where weak could live. He wasn't living in denial. He knew the path he's taking would be of bloodshed where innocents would die. He became an enemy of public so they would unite. Eren Yeager on the other hand, tried something similar, but killing more, just for the sake of a better and safe life of his 2 friends, and it was a stupid idea, but in his defence, everything was set in stones so he couldn't change it. Then comes the edgelord Light Yagami, the psychopath killer. I don't think he had slightest intention to make the world a better place. All he enjoyed was killing 'bad guys', with bad being whoever he thought was bad. But eventually he made the world a better place, while being high on his killing spree. A |
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