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Dec 21, 2023 8:29 PM
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I get that it's supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek parody of isekai tropes, but the humor doesn't really hit like a parody. I actually enjoy the anime more when it's taking itself "seriously" rather than the weak attempts at humor during Cid's inner monologues. Hell even the girls of Shadow Garden feel like much better characters than Cid. If it were just the girls accidentally destroying Diablos while acting all dark and mysterious with a comedic twist the show would be so much better imo.

Unfortunately then it would be an "all girl anime" which would turn away the average anime viewer.
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Dec 21, 2023 8:31 PM
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I thought i was the only one who doesnt like Cid...

Thank goodness im not the only one!!!
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Dec 21, 2023 8:35 PM
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Without Cid this anime would be garbage.
Dec 21, 2023 8:36 PM
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I thought i was the only one who doesnt like Cid...

Thank goodness im not the only one!!!
@Hitagi__Furude You're not alone! I mean I do enjoy his fight scenes, but anything beyond that is boring to me.
Dec 21, 2023 8:38 PM
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Without Cid this anime would be garbage.
@Cestlavie_ Idk man, the girls kinda carry the show. Especially Gamma and Epsilon.
Dec 21, 2023 8:38 PM
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Shut the fuck up, the only reason why this anime is so popular is because of cid otherwise no one would give shit about this anime.
Dec 21, 2023 8:38 PM
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These guys..loll
Dec 21, 2023 8:40 PM
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This is the dumbest post yet
Dec 21, 2023 8:41 PM
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Ever heard of dry humor? An expressionless way of making jokes?

Besides Cid is the main reason this conflict began. Without him, there is no "The eminence in shadow" or shadow garden.
Dec 21, 2023 8:41 PM

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for me it's 50-50 cause these girls carries the show and only other than shadow's fight scenes others are boring
Dec 21, 2023 8:42 PM

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@Hitagi__Furude You're not alone! I mean I do enjoy his fight scenes, but anything beyond that is boring to me.
@Apollo_Injustice

For me...
He is more like Aqua in Oshi No Ko...

In a sense that eventhough i dont like him at all & i find him annoying & very aloof & insensitive...
He needs to be in the show for the plot to work...

But the biggest difference i had with the 2 of em...

Aqua is intentionally made to be unlikable...

Cid is the polar opposite & yet i dont like him at all!!!

Atleast in Aqua's case...

i understand his intentions & where it came from!!!

Cid???

NAH!!!
I REALLY DONT!!!
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Dec 21, 2023 8:42 PM
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@SkypeUwU So you can't enjoy a show without a male MC, tragic.
Dec 21, 2023 8:43 PM
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Ever heard of dry humor? An expressionless way of making jokes?

Besides Cid is the main reason this conflict began. Without him, there is no "The eminence in shadow" or shadow garden.
@V1P3R0P Yeah...that's what tongue-in-cheek means, which I already mentioned...


Also didn't the cult already exist before Cid?
Dec 21, 2023 8:44 PM
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hellllll nooooooo!!!! without Cid this would become some random serious anime without much of a character development. Cid is the protagonist and Cid makes the show, this show is incomplete without him.
His high school fantasies and clueless yet incomprehensibly accurate mind with lots of luck make me humour a lot.
Dec 21, 2023 8:47 PM
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Apollo_Injustice said:
@SkypeUwU So you can't enjoy a show without a male MC, tragic.

Fuck u I said ""cid is the reason the show is soo popular his humour and the misunderstanding related to him make this show great"".
Do you understand you fucking twitter users getting offended by everything

Cuz what i said is nothing related to cid being a male character
Dec 21, 2023 8:49 PM

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Apollo_Injustice said:
@V1P3R0P Yeah...that's what tongue-in-cheek means, which I already mentioned...


Also didn't the cult already exist before Cid?

Cool!!

even if the cult existed before Cid, there wouldnt be shadow garden without him. Alpha and the other girls would just be some rotten ball of meat found in one of those trash cans in the city. Just remember his existence... like Miguel O'Hara likes to put, is a canon event. It cant be changed.
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SkypeUwU said:
Apollo_Injustice said:
@SkypeUwU So you can't enjoy a show without a male MC, tragic.

Fuck u I said ""cid is the reason the show is soo popular his humour and the misunderstanding related to him make this show great"".
Do you understand you fucking twitter users getting offended by everything

Cuz what i said is nothing related to cid being a male character

stop gatekeeping. They are just expressing their opinions.
Dec 21, 2023 8:51 PM
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V1P3R0P said:
Apollo_Injustice said:
@V1P3R0P Yeah...that's what tongue-in-cheek means, which I already mentioned...


Also didn't the cult already exist before Cid?

Cool!!

even if the cult existed before Cid, there wouldnt be shadow garden without him. Alpha and the other girls would just be some rotten ball of meat found in one of those trash cans in the city. Just remember his existence... like Miguel O'Hara likes to put, is a canon event. It cant be changed.

I totally Agree with this
Dec 21, 2023 8:51 PM
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I don't agree, this anime will be incomplete without CId
Dec 21, 2023 8:52 PM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
@Apollo_Injustice

For me...
He is more like Aqua in Oshi No Ko...

In a sense that eventhough i dont like him at all & i find him annoying & very aloof & insensitive...
He needs to be in the show for the plot to work...

But the biggest difference i had with the 2 of em...

Aqua is intentionally made to be unlikable...

Cid is the polar opposite & yet i dont like him at all!!!

Atleast in Aqua's case...

i understand his intentions & where it came from!!!

Cid???

NAH!!!
I REALLY DONT!!!

lol I am only watching this anime because of Cid and his entrance in every fight. who tf want to watch those annoying girls this anime is running on Cid if there were no Cid this anime will be below average for almost everyone
Dec 21, 2023 8:53 PM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
Atleast in Aqua's case...

i understand his intentions & where it came from!!!

Cid???

NAH!!!
I REALLY DONT!!!
That's it right there! I couldn't put it into proper word but you got it perfectly right. I just don't feel any drive or intention from Cid.
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I mean I do enjoy watching people progress and make intelligent, informed decisions, so I get it. it's hard to relate to characters that just refuse to see things directly in front of their faces.
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V1P3R0P said:
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Fuck u I said ""cid is the reason the show is soo popular his humour and the misunderstanding related to him make this show great"".
Do you understand you fucking twitter users getting offended by everything

Cuz what i said is nothing related to cid being a male character

stop gatekeeping. They are just expressing their opinions.

Nahhh he said that i can't enjoy a show without a male character,what he said wasn't related to this particular anime but he was referring to all the anime with male protagonist, it was no longer about the eminence in shadow but the whole of anime
Dec 21, 2023 8:55 PM
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the story would not exist without Cid
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Apollo_Injustice said:
I get that it's supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek parody of isekai tropes, but the humor doesn't really hit like a parody. I actually enjoy the anime more when it's taking itself "seriously" rather than the weak attempts at humor during Cid's inner monologues. Hell even the girls of Shadow Garden feel like much better characters than Cid. If it were just the girls accidentally destroying Diablos while acting all dark and mysterious with a comedic twist the show would be so much better imo.

Unfortunately then it would be an "all girl anime" which would turn away the average anime viewer.

i watch this show because of cid, his op shadow nature+ side character, and the way he does every thing behind their backs ,and i also like other but mainly because of cid. he carries the show
Dec 21, 2023 8:56 PM
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Apollo_Injustice said:
@V1P3R0P Yeah...that's what tongue-in-cheek means, which I already mentioned...


Also didn't the cult already exist before Cid?

Cool!!

even if the cult existed before Cid, there wouldnt be shadow garden without him. Alpha and the other girls would just be some rotten ball of meat found in one of those trash cans in the city. Just remember his existence... like Miguel O'Hara likes to put, is a canon event. It cant be changed.
@V1P3R0P That is true. Maybe if you rewrite Cid to be Alpha instead and then she serves as the core of the story. Idk that's just my take on it since I love the Shadow Garden characters more than Cid lol
Dec 21, 2023 8:58 PM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
@Apollo_Injustice

For me...
He is more like Aqua in Oshi No Ko...

In a sense that eventhough i dont like him at all & i find him annoying & very aloof & insensitive...
He needs to be in the show for the plot to work...

But the biggest difference i had with the 2 of em...

Aqua is intentionally made to be unlikable...

Cid is the polar opposite & yet i dont like him at all!!!

Atleast in Aqua's case...

i understand his intentions & where it came from!!!

Cid???

NAH!!!
I REALLY DONT!!!

and who you even watching this anime if you don't like the main character and if you are watching on your choice than don't complain
and you are stating your opinion like manga writers care about you what you like and what you don't ๐Ÿ˜‚
Dec 21, 2023 8:58 PM
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lmao the reason I like this anime so much is because of Cid, without him it would be garbage.
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Apollo_Injustice said:
I get that it's supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek parody of isekai tropes, but the humor doesn't really hit like a parody. I actually enjoy the anime more when it's taking itself "seriously" rather than the weak attempts at humor during Cid's inner monologues. Hell even the girls of Shadow Garden feel like much better characters than Cid. If it were just the girls accidentally destroying Diablos while acting all dark and mysterious with a comedic twist the show would be so much better imo.

Unfortunately then it would be an "all girl anime" which would turn away the average anime viewer.

The problem is Cid’s entire character after he is Isekai-ed

He went from being a anti-hero type that wanted to gain strength and power to help others, to this pathetic lame character that didn’t care about anything, never listened or communicated, and acted like this life was a movie in which he played multiple rolls to his liking, while also pretending that Shadowed Garden is all a game.

None of this has been humorous or enjoyable, because it is so obviously predicable and repetitive.

This anime would have been better to have Cid actually working with Shadow Garden to make this world a better place for the people.

Cid as the leader, with the 7 at his side, and the rest of the cult working in all the land to change the world.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Dec 21, 2023 8:59 PM
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Apollo_Injustice said:
I get that it's supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek parody of isekai tropes, but the humor doesn't really hit like a parody. I actually enjoy the anime more when it's taking itself "seriously" rather than the weak attempts at humor during Cid's inner monologues. Hell even the girls of Shadow Garden feel like much better characters than Cid. If it were just the girls accidentally destroying Diablos while acting all dark and mysterious with a comedic twist the show would be so much better imo.

Unfortunately then it would be an "all girl anime" which would turn away the average anime viewer.

Without Cid this anime would be meh lol. He is the main element
Dec 21, 2023 9:01 PM

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You just don't find the joke funny. The rest of the jokes wouldn't work aswell without cid as a character, I don't see how you write a different mc to replace him without changing the note premise of the show. You could change certain jokes sure, but his concept needs to be relatively the same or it's just not as funny.
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Fuck u I said ""cid is the reason the show is soo popular his humour and the misunderstanding related to him make this show great"".
Do you understand you fucking twitter users getting offended by everything

Cuz what i said is nothing related to cid being a male character

stop gatekeeping. They are just expressing their opinions.

Nahhh he said that i can't enjoy a show without a male character,what he said wasn't related to this particular anime but he was referring to all the anime with male protagonist, it was no longer about the eminence in shadow but the whole of anime
@SkypeUwU To clarify, the only reason I made that generalization is because your first words were "shut the fuck up" lmao.
Dec 21, 2023 9:04 PM

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Apollo_Injustice said:
@V1P3R0P That is true. Maybe if you rewrite Cid to be Alpha instead and then she serves as the core of the story. Idk that's just my take on it since I love the Shadow Garden characters more than Cid lol

Again.. Shadow is what made Alpha's character, and thats why you like her character. I find it unfathomable, to imagine a world of Eminence in shadow without Cid. But I guess there is a lot that could be explored in a "what if? " situation.
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Cestlavie_ said:
Without Cid this anime would be garbage.

I would like to honestly ask what you like about Cid?

I think they made a mistake in writing his post isekai-ed character as a person without simple communication skills, obviously repetitive and predictable, arrogant self-centered greedy money-loving, self made actor playing multiple rolls, while pretending Shadow Garden is all a game.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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You just don't find the joke funny. The rest of the jokes wouldn't work aswell without cid as a character, I don't see how you write a different mc to replace him without changing the note premise of the show. You could change certain jokes sure, but his concept needs to be relatively the same or it's just not as funny.
@Render_1 Well yeah that's the angle. I actually enjoy the elements of the show where the humor isn't involved. The fights, the Diablos plot, the world building and the characters in it are all amazing. I just don't think the humor fits.
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Cestlavie_ said:
Without Cid this anime would be garbage.

I would like to honestly ask what you like about Cid?

I think they made a mistake in writing his post isekai-ed character as a person without simple communication skills, obviously repetitive and predictable, arrogant self-centered greedy money-loving, self made actor playing multiple rolls, while pretending Shadow Garden is all a game.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Apollo_Injustice said:
@SkypeUwU To clarify, the only reason I made that generalization is because your first words were "shut the fuck up" lmao.

Ohh so because of that you decided to quite me in a totally different topic of the main character being a 'male'.


I guess its ok ๐Ÿ‘
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@Apollo_Injustice

We are gonna get killed in this thread....

I hope you are ok...
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

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SkypeUwU said:
V1P3R0P said:

stop gatekeeping. They are just expressing their opinions.

Nahhh he said that i can't enjoy a show without a male character,what he said wasn't related to this particular anime but he was referring to all the anime with male protagonist, it was no longer about the eminence in shadow but the whole of anime

But you started the hostility. That was not called for.
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Render_1 said:
You just don't find the joke funny. The rest of the jokes wouldn't work aswell without cid as a character, I don't see how you write a different mc to replace him without changing the note premise of the show. You could change certain jokes sure, but his concept needs to be relatively the same or it's just not as funny.

You take the pre-isekaied character from the original world and have him actually work with Shadow Garden in the new world to destroy the bad guys and help the people.

Cid is the joke in this anime, how are people missing that?

You are not laughing with him, but at him.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Inverted. He's bridging anything. So, he's the main element of this show.
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V1P3R0P said:
SkypeUwU said:

Nahhh he said that i can't enjoy a show without a male character,what he said wasn't related to this particular anime but he was referring to all the anime with male protagonist, it was no longer about the eminence in shadow but the whole of anime

But you started the hostility. That was not called for.

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ejleon said:
Cestlavie_ said:
Without Cid this anime would be garbage.

I would like to honestly ask what you like about Cid?

I think they made a mistake in writing his post isekai-ed character as a person without simple communication skills, obviously repetitive and predictable, arrogant self-centered greedy money-loving, self made actor playing multiple rolls, while pretending Shadow Garden is all a game.

The way his Bs works everytime, the misunderstanding he creates, the carefree life he lives, kills opponent without any hesitation ( Not like 99.99% of weak ass hearted harem/shounen mc who can't even kill), And he is a chad not a pathetic simp. How can anyone not like him? And he saves the people around him as well. And in the Manga he is more dam funny
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Cestlavie_ said:
Without Cid this anime would be garbage.

Yep man that's true of u. Cid is the Shadow himself and without him The eminence in Shadow is doomed. But I saw a twist in the story, where Cid is most likely teleported to his world which is currently a Sci fi kinda situation just like in a doomsday movie setting. Now the main interesting turn of events is about to happen. Just like it did in other Isekai Like SAO, etc. Can't Wait for Next Season ๐Ÿ—ฟ
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ejleon said:
Render_1 said:
You just don't find the joke funny. The rest of the jokes wouldn't work aswell without cid as a character, I don't see how you write a different mc to replace him without changing the note premise of the show. You could change certain jokes sure, but his concept needs to be relatively the same or it's just not as funny.

You take the pre-isekaied character from the original world and have him actually work with Shadow Garden in the new world to destroy the bad guys and help the people.

Cid is the joke in this anime, how are people missing that?

You are not laughing with him, but at him.

I think it's the expectation of most isekai fans for every show to be self insert power fantasy, which is why so many people didn't pole the executioner and her way of life, for example.

A lot of it seems to boil down to "the mc isn't how I want to project myself" I'm a lot of complaints about isekai. Mushoku tensei being another example of this, you are fairly obviously not supposed to support all of rudeus' actions, but rather their development overall as a person etc.
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V1P3R0P said:
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Nahhh he said that i can't enjoy a show without a male character,what he said wasn't related to this particular anime but he was referring to all the anime with male protagonist, it was no longer about the eminence in shadow but the whole of anime

But you started the hostility. That was not called for.

I'm usually not like that but as soon as I got the notification of this thread and read it I got mad at how dumb this thread was and i couldn't hold myself
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Cestlavie_ said:
Without Cid this anime would be garbage.

I would like to honestly ask what you like about Cid?

I think they made a mistake in writing his post isekai-ed character as a person without simple communication skills, obviously repetitive and predictable, arrogant self-centered greedy money-loving, self made actor playing multiple rolls, while pretending Shadow Garden is all a game.
@ejleon Exactly, I like him being a self centered, money grubbing , greedy, unserious individual. I find his delusions amusing I enjoy how he doesn't take anything seriously while everyone arounds him do it makes for a fun dynamic. if everything was serious , it would get boring with how op he is, defeating the enemy without a sweat.
So basically I like him cause he's a fraud.
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SkypeUwU said:
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But you started the hostility. That was not called for.

I'm usually not like that but as soon as I got the notification of this thread and read it I got mad at how dumb this thread was and i couldn't hold myself

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Hitagi__Furude said:
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We are gonna get killed in this thread....

I hope you are ok...
I'm used to it. I've experienced worse on Discord lol.
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V1P3R0P said:
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I'm usually not like that but as soon as I got the notification of this thread and read it I got mad at how dumb this thread was and i couldn't hold myself

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