Jujutsu Kaisen is having a production meltdown

@Dan_ALves I don't think it's entirely the studio's decision on what they animate, there's some people at the top that assign projects from what I've heard. I'd imagine the fact that MAPPA has done a good job with all these big manga to be the reason they got all this work. Honestly, compared to what JC Staff ended up giving us, they're doing an amazing job. Even if the animation for this episode was lacking, it was still really good imo.

@Berch0 Did Mappa do a good job with all these manga? wtf? Attack on Titan was one of the most criticized productions for their terrible use of CGI, Chainsaw Man was harshly criticized because it couldn't match the original work, Hell's Paradise for its terrible animation, Cooking in another world we don't even talk about it ... the only 2 productions that can be saved are Vinland saga and JJK, but JJK 2 are experiencing many problems this season too... Mappa sucks at his work ☠️

@Dan_ALves I don't think it's entirely the studio's decision on what they animate, there's some people at the top that assign projects from what I've heard. I'd imagine the fact that MAPPA has done a good job with all these big manga to be the reason they got all this work. Honestly, compared to what JC Staff ended up giving us, they're doing an amazing job. Even if the animation for this episode was lacking, it was still really good imo.

@Leon888 vinland s2 the 90% staff was frome wit studio, almost same staff frome s1
Because director of vinland mad a condition with mappa to save with team for s2.
That's why vinland s2 hasn't problems like others mappa's works
You can even say it's a wit work not mappa.

But even at this case with 10% left by mappa's staff had work on s2,

S1 has a better quality compare to s2

S2 a level or a little bit lesser quality then s1

I watched both season in the same time and know all details

@Zero01guard No, the 1st season was not made by wit, almost not at all. On the contrary, most of the 2nd season was made by mappa. While the team was making the 1st season, they were not wit employees. In fact, most of them were freelancers. In the 2nd season, director Shuhei Yabuta became an official mappa employee, other than that; 2nd key animation (eps 2,4,7,9-10,12-17,19,20,22),Digital In-between animation(OP2;ED1; eps 1-24),Digital paint(OP2;ED1; eps 1) -24),In-between animation(eps 1-2,4-10 even,11,13,15-17,20),Line test(OP2; eps 9,11,13,20),Paint(eps 23- 24) mappa made. Get out of this idea that "the team that made the 2nd season is actually the wit team".

@feyyazu35 what's wrong with you bro?
Are you ok?
Your words is so nonsense 🤣

It's not important who is which studio's employee, actually what is important is that which studio did bring the team together.
Wit was the studio who chose shuhei yabuta team and the yabuta's team were under supervision of wit

Whether they were freelancers or not isn't the case
The studio who chose the team is important Whether they freelancers or not it's the team that chosen by wit
And it is a wit team
Wit payed them

But mappa didn't chose them
Yabuta did chose them
Because before he became mappa's employee it was his condition to become mappa employee

Don't fool yourself with such nonsense in your head

The team MADHOUSE's opm s1 were freelancers.
But everywhere you search you can see it's from MADHOUSE or it's frome wit studio

@Zero01guard Lol bro, are you high?Shuhei Yabuta and his team were created by Hiroya Hasegawa, who was once a Wit employee. For the Vinland Saga 2nd season, Hiroya Hasegawa joined mappa and therefore the studio became mappa. Therefore, the wit team became the mappa team. "Wit paid them" It's like mappa didn't pay lol.

Wow. The guy is saying he is trash and will live like the worst animator ever. Poor guy. I hope he recovers from this

it's just that jjk and hell's paradise are by far the worst. hell's paradise suffered from a lack of staff available and jjk has no time to be created some episodes except for ep 16 will be burning with trash

and what is wrong with jujutsu actually? and episode 14 specific? I enjoy whole season, including ep 14 as well

You do know you sound fucking retarded right
It's like getting a can soda from a vending machine and calling it the vending machine's soda. You see how stupid that sounds
You're a troll nevertheless so I don't wanna bother with you

I think it's about time we make ourselves aware of the horrors of the Industry
And yeah the industry standard isn't far from this

@Leon888 No no, you've misunderstood me. Seeing problems and pointing them out in a civil way is normal. Just like I exactly worded it like in my post. If someone watches something they are paying for, i.e. via official streaming services, then it's normal to have expectations. If a show exceedes one's expectations, then it's natural to see praises coming from the audience; if a show represents quality that's below the initial expectations, it's natural to complain about it.

As brutal as it might sound like, average customer shouldn't be bashed by default, at least not always, for not knowing about difficulties in the production process. It's not ignorance to not be aware of them just as you don't have to be a professional cook to say that a meal you've received didn't taste well and the soup was lukewarm.

At least in my opinion, it can't be treated as something equal to, say, a viewer not being familiar with a genre being upset, because the movie they decided to watch, specifically tagged as belonging to said genre, felt not entertaining at all... despite following all the principles defining said genre and succeeding in doing them right

What I criticized in my post is a situation when someone doesn't even pay in any way for a product, but is first to literally throw insults at the crew working on it and to react in overly emotional way about the product itself. One can be negative about a cartoon, no matter if they paid for watching it or not, but come on. There are limits of harsh sincerity, where it turns into just being a rude brat focusing on bashing people who worked on a show (no matter if they were directly or even indirectly responsible for what is being criticized in that way).

Aye, that's true. Awful working conditions are secondary thing when checking out the general feelings of an audience. Average viewer in most of cases don't give a damn about secondary elements, focusing rather on the primary ones (what the show looks like, how it was advertised and is it as good as in commercials, etc.).

I'd like to refer to another part of your post (apologies for doing it by the end of my reply):
That's the problem as well. You see many people using it as an excuse when a show drops in quality, but what do they do with it? Let's leave aside whether they are former trolls or not. What is their cure for such state? Doing nothing to even share words of love and support towards the animators via letters or whatever format they find as approriate? Well, instead of even symbolic gestures like that, you usually see 'em just seething over people who, again, are negative in a civil way about the show and admit opently that they don't want to talk about the crew producing it, but rather focus on the final product instead.

After the steady improvements with the Hayashi pipeline (AoT, Dorohedoro) and Ogawa pipeline (Campfire cooking and other secondary projects) I'd certainly expected Seshimo pipeline to receive similar treatment, especially since JJK is extremely demanding and is their biggest title, and I wouldn't have expected them to go head-first without any thought put into what not delaying the season would do to the end product.
So yeah, as a matter of fact it's definitely surprising to see MAPPA acting so rash and putting their animators through hell and risking their image as well as connections within the industry. AoT was a pretty interesting case, and it can't be counted as a planning error (it wasn't necessary for them to pick it up whatever). But this streak started with Chainsaw man (made within 6-8 months afaik, pre-production was done earlier I think), got crazier with Jigokuraku (No real team to work on it, lacked Talent and Time, and still somehow ended up successful. The BD and TV difference is crazy) and is not reaching a breaking point with JJK S2.
It's only really affecting the Seshimo pipeline and idek why. In an ideal world they should have the best schedules and highest priorities regarding staff satisfaction and expanding industry connections. Despite the complaints JJK at least had a cohesive product. I can only imagine the production hell of Jigokuraku, being made in like 5 months and severely lacking animators, and in the end releasing back to back terribly incomplete episodes. It should've been worse, and I mean MUCH WORSE, than JJK

I think those lines fit perfectly, since a healthy work environment was never the norm in Japan it's very easy for an unstable condition to go downhill real fast.
And Jigokuraku is a good show because the directors knew what they were doing. The anime just lacked animators and time both, and as a result almost each and every scene had the characters off model, even the supposedly high priority action scenes or even the fucking STILLS.
It's almost like Re:Zero Season 2, except Re:Zero had a proper reason for production collapse