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Aug 13, 2023 12:02 PM
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-blackmailed kazuya into relationship with her
-she doesn't care about kazuya, she only care about her heart condition. everytime she clinged into kazuya the first thing she seen was her heartbeat
-she forced kiss kazuya in his apartement out of her desperation(this attempt simply a sexual assault)
-immature brat( this one is understandable, she is a highschool student after all)

anyone who supported her and think she is the best girl should reconsider stopping, she is basically a terrible human being and she doesn't even realized it even if she dated other people than kazuya she still is.
Aug 13, 2023 12:12 PM
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Most of the things you said can be said about Kazuya too. Like how he blackmailed Ichinose or stalked her multiple times (btw stalking is illegal in most countries).
I would also argue with some of your points. Ruka only acts like this, because she thinks Kazuya is unfair to her when he doesn't give her a chance. Which is actually quite logical, because Kazuya only cares about their looks and Ruka looks good.
Aug 13, 2023 12:20 PM
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in what scene does kazuya blackmailed chizuru?? are we even watching the same thing? the stalking one he had done it once and he admit it was wrong.
Aug 13, 2023 12:21 PM
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Honestly I used to like her. But recently she’s really become unbearable and annoying.

So yeah I agree with you a lot
Aug 13, 2023 12:46 PM
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Oml finally. I can’t stand ppl in the comments meat riding tf out of her. Like… all she does is get in the way between Kazuya and Mizuhara. I rly don’t care if she’s cute and actually likes Kazuya. I personally think she’s been a huge annoyance considering the fact that Kazuya doesn’t even like her. I just want them to break it off bc it ain’t going nowhere. Mizuhara ๐Ÿ”›๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ
Aug 13, 2023 12:48 PM
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gustav1214 said:
-blackmailed kazuya into relationship with her
-she doesn't care about kazuya, she only care about her heart condition. everytime she clinged into kazuya the first thing she seen was her heartbeat
-she forced kiss kazuya in his apartement out of her desperation(this attempt simply a sexual assault)
-immature brat( this one is understandable, she is a highschool student after all)

anyone who supported her and think she is the best girl should reconsider stopping, she is basically a terrible human being and she doesn't even realized it even if she dated other people than kazuya she still is.

she cares deeply for Kazuya, and she does love him. the heartbeat thing is proof of that as he's the only one who can make her heart beat fast which is a sign she is in love with him. obviously in real life this probably isn't true.

as for everything else you've said I agree, she's annoying to deal with and has pushed her feelings onto Kazuya.
Aug 13, 2023 12:49 PM
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Phantom667 said:
Honestly I used to like her. But recently she’s really become unbearable and annoying.

So yeah I agree with you a lot

everytime she appears I grind my teeth.
Aug 13, 2023 12:52 PM
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Well I understand I mean what is even the point here she knows that Kazuya loves Chizuru yet she asks him for "trial" dating. We all know she really loves him but in the end it is still not gonna change the fact that it is one-sided love.

So i won't say she is the worst but her perception is just given like in the story, what can even be done. All this just to show us the typical "Love triangle" in the anime. Nothing but a waste of good character.
Aug 13, 2023 1:37 PM
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gustav1214 said:

in what scene does kazuya blackmailed chizuru?? are we even watching the same thing? the stalking one he had done it once and he admit it was wrong.

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.
Aug 13, 2023 1:41 PM
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Well I understand I mean what is even the point here she knows that Kazuya loves Chizuru yet she asks him for "trial" dating. We all know she really loves him but in the end it is still not gonna change the fact that it is one-sided love.

So i won't say she is the worst but her perception is just given like in the story, what can even be done. All this just to show us the typical "Love triangle" in the anime. Nothing but a waste of good character.

I don't really care about her or anyone else, but your argument is wrong, because based on this, Kazuya should have left Chizuru alone, because at first it was clearly one sided love.
In most cases the love is usually one sided at first and that side tries to persuade the other side.
Aug 13, 2023 2:14 PM
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Back then, I didn’t really care for her. 

Now, I really don’t like her.



"You fought to the end. You survived. That's why you're here now. I think that's something you should be more proud of."
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Aug 13, 2023 2:44 PM
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finally someone said that๐Ÿ™
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bruh ruka is like 2nd best girl sumi best fr
Aug 13, 2023 4:24 PM
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ktg said:
gustav1214 said:

in what scene does kazuya blackmailed chizuru?? are we even watching the same thing? the stalking one he had done it once and he admit it was wrong.

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.
ktg said:
gustav1214 said:

in what scene does kazuya blackmailed chizuru?? are we even watching the same thing? the stalking one he had done it once and he admit it was wrong.

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.

Oh based on your reason I could see that you put all the blames on kazuya alone while part of it was on chizuru.
Aug 13, 2023 5:26 PM
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gustav1214 said:
-blackmailed kazuya into relationship with her
-she doesn't care about kazuya, she only care about her heart condition. everytime she clinged into kazuya the first thing she seen was her heartbeat
-she forced kiss kazuya in his apartement out of her desperation(this attempt simply a sexual assault)
-immature brat( this one is understandable, she is a highschool student after all)

anyone who supported her and think she is the best girl should reconsider stopping, she is basically a terrible human being and she doesn't even realized it even if she dated other people than kazuya she still is.

her forcing herself onto him rly is just unhealthy. she needs to move on. ppl who think she's "best girl" rly don't understand relationships at all. one person being yandere asf and the other not being interested aren't a good pairing. all the times kazuya even says something good about her, it's just him stating objective observations of her food qualities. it's not him actually appreciating her as a person. they're just not a good match at all. chizuru by far the most, and maybe Sumi to a lesser extent he actually has human relationships with where they appreciate each other mutually.
Aug 13, 2023 6:08 PM
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ktg said:
_Sanchay said:
Well I understand I mean what is even the point here she knows that Kazuya loves Chizuru yet she asks him for "trial" dating. We all know she really loves him but in the end it is still not gonna change the fact that it is one-sided love.

So i won't say she is the worst but her perception is just given like in the story, what can even be done. All this just to show us the typical "Love triangle" in the anime. Nothing but a waste of good character.

I don't really care about her or anyone else, but your argument is wrong, because based on this, Kazuya should have left Chizuru alone, because at first it was clearly one sided love.
In most cases the love is usually one sided at first and that side tries to persuade the other side.

Bro i never said Chizuru loves him too. Yes, Kazuya has been a one-sided love for Chizuru but unlike Ruka, he isn't forcing the opposite person to like or love them back but trying to get recognised by her and also he wasn't stalking her it was because of a coincidence meeting her grandma Sagiri incident so they have to continue their fake relationship arc of be bf & gf in front of her grandma.
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exactly. idk how kazuya stands her or why hes still together with her. i get being a nice person and being considerate but atp shes just getting too overbearing and out of hand
Aug 13, 2023 8:19 PM
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Phantom667 said:
Honestly I used to like her. But recently she’s really become unbearable and annoying.

So yeah I agree with you a lot

I second this, at least her character design is still cute.
Aug 13, 2023 8:29 PM

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ktg said:
_Sanchay said:
Well I understand I mean what is even the point here she knows that Kazuya loves Chizuru yet she asks him for "trial" dating. We all know she really loves him but in the end it is still not gonna change the fact that it is one-sided love.

So i won't say she is the worst but her perception is just given like in the story, what can even be done. All this just to show us the typical "Love triangle" in the anime. Nothing but a waste of good character.

I don't really care about her or anyone else, but your argument is wrong, because based on this, Kazuya should have left Chizuru alone, because at first it was clearly one sided love.
In most cases the love is usually one sided at first and that side tries to persuade the other side.

Oh, my such hypocrisy. This means that the same thing done by Ruka is annoying, but it is done by Kazuya, and it is persuading love.

I am no Ruka fan, The only character bearable is Sumi chan. But people are overreacting a bit. Nearly every harem has a girl who is clingy and does everything in her power to keep him for herself. But I don't see the outrage then.

-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. 

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It is not like that hating ruka or Kazuya will change the mind of makers and they will change this trashy script.
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BitChilly said:
Back then, I didn’t really care for her. 

Now, I really don’t like her.

same , this is really 3rd season and it is not looking like it is going to end..
Aug 13, 2023 9:56 PM
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BRO SAMEEEEE dou not for the specific reasons you have given thats totally valid but i just see her as unesscessary to the story as a whole and she gets in the way alot
Aug 14, 2023 12:26 AM
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Mami is worse imo haha
Aug 14, 2023 1:03 AM
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DinoNo1 said:
ktg said:

I don't really care about her or anyone else, but your argument is wrong, because based on this, Kazuya should have left Chizuru alone, because at first it was clearly one sided love.
In most cases the love is usually one sided at first and that side tries to persuade the other side.

Oh, my such hypocrisy. This means that the same thing done by Ruka is annoying, but it is done by Kazuya, and it is persuading love.

I am no Ruka fan, The only character bearable is Sumi chan. But people are overreacting a bit. Nearly every harem has a girl who is clingy and does everything in her power to keep him for herself. But I don't see the outrage then.

If you can't comprehend what I wrote, then don't use internet. I was clearly saying that, if it's a problem with Ruka, then it is a problem with Kazuya too.
Aug 14, 2023 1:13 AM
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gustav1214 said:
ktg said:

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.
ktg said:

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.

Oh based on your reason I could see that you put all the blames on kazuya alone while part of it was on chizuru.

Lol, how did you get that? xD
No, I'm not blaming here anyone, I was talking about Karuya's PERSONALITY and yes, that's not because of Ruka, Chizuru or Mami. If you want to blame someone, then blame his parents.

What you are doing here with Chizuru is clearly victim blaming. Yes, if we lived in a just and equal world, Chizuru should have called the police, but currently especially in Japan, harassing women is/was normal. Not a good thing, but women were expected to tolerate this behavior, because they are women. This is why the metoo started.
So at best, Chizuru acts as an average woman would act, even though the author didn't do that intentionally.
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_Sanchay said:
ktg said:

I don't really care about her or anyone else, but your argument is wrong, because based on this, Kazuya should have left Chizuru alone, because at first it was clearly one sided love.
In most cases the love is usually one sided at first and that side tries to persuade the other side.

Bro i never said Chizuru loves him too. Yes, Kazuya has been a one-sided love for Chizuru but unlike Ruka, he isn't forcing the opposite person to like or love them back but trying to get recognised by her and also he wasn't stalking her it was because of a coincidence meeting her grandma Sagiri incident so they have to continue their fake relationship arc of be bf & gf in front of her grandma.

He pretty obviously forced Chizuru into situations by playing the "pity" card several times. And this is the same category how Ruka forced herself onto Kazuya.
And he WAS stalking her. Lol, Kazuya everytime sees one of his "friends" he regularly stalks them.
Aug 14, 2023 1:49 AM
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gustav1214 said:
-blackmailed kazuya into relationship with her
-she doesn't care about kazuya, she only care about her heart condition. everytime she clinged into kazuya the first thing she seen was her heartbeat
-she forced kiss kazuya in his apartement out of her desperation(this attempt simply a sexual assault)
-immature brat( this one is understandable, she is a highschool student after all)

anyone who supported her and think she is the best girl should reconsider stopping, she is basically a terrible human being and she doesn't even realized it even if she dated other people than kazuya she still is.

she cares deeply for Kazuya, and she does love him. the heartbeat thing is proof of that as he's the only one who can make her heart beat fast which is a sign she is in love with him. obviously in real life this probably isn't true.

as for everything else you've said I agree, she's annoying to deal with and has pushed her feelings onto Kazuya.

true . Kazuya never gave her a chance and also never tried to understand. All he is doing just holding lust ๐Ÿ˜  ....
most useless mc in anime history. ๐Ÿ—ฟ
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gustav1214 said:
ktg said:

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.
ktg said:

That's not how you quote someone because I won't get notification.

Kazuya emotionally blackmailed Chizuru when he mentioned his grandma multiple times. He even lied about Ruka being a liar.
And Kazuya regularly stalks people, it wasn't just one time.
Kazuya also accepted the dating site's conditions about leaving the girls alone outside of work and Kazuya still several times ignored it to get closer to Chizuru.

In reality, Kazuya would be in jail. The most sane person in the whole show is Mami, who actually understands Kazuya and wants him to suffer and that's the normal reaction when you see someone awful like Kazuya.

Oh based on your reason I could see that you put all the blames on kazuya alone while part of it was on chizuru.

you are doing the same bro . you are only blaming RUKA
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ktg said:
DinoNo1 said:

Oh, my such hypocrisy. This means that the same thing done by Ruka is annoying, but it is done by Kazuya, and it is persuading love.

I am no Ruka fan, The only character bearable is Sumi chan. But people are overreacting a bit. Nearly every harem has a girl who is clingy and does everything in her power to keep him for herself. But I don't see the outrage then.

If you can't comprehend what I wrote, then don't use internet. I was clearly saying that, if it's a problem with Ruka, then it is a problem with Kazuya too.

Oh, it looks like I quoted the wrong comment. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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gustav1214 said:
-blackmailed kazuya into relationship with her
-she doesn't care about kazuya, she only care about her heart condition. everytime she clinged into kazuya the first thing she seen was her heartbeat
-she forced kiss kazuya in his apartement out of her desperation(this attempt simply a sexual assault)
-immature brat( this one is understandable, she is a highschool student after all)

anyone who supported her and think she is the best girl should reconsider stopping, she is basically a terrible human being and she doesn't even realized it even if she dated other people than kazuya she still is.

She's so annoying man. Kazuya should've rejected her over and over till she gave up. ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ’†๐Ÿป‍โ™‚๏ธ
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ktg said:
_Sanchay said:

Bro i never said Chizuru loves him too. Yes, Kazuya has been a one-sided love for Chizuru but unlike Ruka, he isn't forcing the opposite person to like or love them back but trying to get recognised by her and also he wasn't stalking her it was because of a coincidence meeting her grandma Sagiri incident so they have to continue their fake relationship arc of be bf & gf in front of her grandma.

He pretty obviously forced Chizuru into situations by playing the "pity" card several times. And this is the same category how Ruka forced herself onto Kazuya.
And he WAS stalking her. Lol, Kazuya everytime sees one of his "friends" he regularly stalks them.
I can convince you that your take is wrong only if you would listen tho. Kazuya cannot be blamed for all of things while ruka is.
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gustav1214 said:
ktg said:

He pretty obviously forced Chizuru into situations by playing the "pity" card several times. And this is the same category how Ruka forced herself onto Kazuya.
And he WAS stalking her. Lol, Kazuya everytime sees one of his "friends" he regularly stalks them.
I can convince you that your take is wrong only if you would listen tho. Kazuya cannot be blamed for all of things while ruka is.

What should I listen to? You made exactly zero point and didn't even refute me.
Kazuya can be blamed for everything, even for Ruka's behavior. Ruka wasn't acting like this at first, Kazuya's actions forced her to do these.
Aug 14, 2023 10:30 AM
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I just keep watching it to wait for the Kazuya meltdown when things finally turn against him. You know, by season ten probably.

That aside, Mami is a very messed up character, but somehow she does feel more mentally sane than Ruka. I can't properly describe why.

And to shorten this comment a lot, my rank chart on the girls:
- Sumi
- Mini
- Mami
- Chizuru
- Ruka

I know Mini is kinda recent in anime lore, but yeah. I admire how straightforward she is, so it gave me a strong impression.
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Oml finally. I can’t stand ppl in the comments meat riding tf out of her. Like… all she does is get in the way between Kazuya and Mizuhara. I rly don’t care if she’s cute and actually likes Kazuya. I personally think she’s been a huge annoyance considering the fact that Kazuya doesn’t even like her. I just want them to break it off bc it ain’t going nowhere. Mizuhara ๐Ÿ”›๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

Well in the show he doesn't exactly like her back but he doesent exactly not like her either. But in the manga kazuya admits that he actually appreciates ruka and realizes his feelings for her eventually. Although I do understand your guys frustrations I think some of the shit ruka has done is stupid as well but it's obvious kazuya isn't completely against it or else he would've cut it off by now.
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That's why I want more Mami material in this new season asap

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1) Ruka blackmails Kazuya by, and this is the important part, telling his grandma that hes been lying to his family about Chizuru being his girlfriend and that he's actually using money thats not entirely his own to rent her as a girlfriend. You...you do realize she's more morally correct than Kazutrash in this situation...right?

2) No one really cares about Kazutrash except his family.

3) Kazutrash has been shown to want to get his dick wet multiple times by now (and even more later). Not to mention at this point, he's actually dating Ruka. This is simply not sexual assault and only an absolute pansy of a man would say it is, toxic masculinity notwithstanding.

4) She's somehow more mature than Kazutrash.
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1) Ruka blackmails Kazuya by, and this is the important part, telling his grandma that hes been lying to his family about Chizuru being his girlfriend and that he's actually using money thats not entirely his own to rent her as a girlfriend. You...you do realize she's more morally correct than Kazutrash in this situation...right?

2) No one really cares about Kazutrash except his family.

3) Kazutrash has been shown to want to get his dick wet multiple times by now (and even more later). Not to mention at this point, he's actually dating Ruka. This is simply not sexual assault and only an absolute pansy of a man would say it is, toxic masculinity notwithstanding.

4) She's somehow more mature than Kazutrash.
lmao you are pathetic if your way of thinking are like that.
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I agree with u, i'd rather to see Mami
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