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DOTA and League of Legends should just been called Tower Defense games

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Aug 26, 2022 6:08 PM
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both games goal is to defend your main tower while you destroy the main tower of the opponent that is a tower defense game genre

who invented the term MOBA anyway? so thoughts?
Aug 26, 2022 6:10 PM
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So you mean Kingdom Rush & Element TD Survivor & Dota are the same???
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Aug 26, 2022 6:13 PM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
So you mean Kingdom Rush & Element TD Survivor & Dota are the same???


i only played Kingdom Rush, its close enough or similar enough imo, sure there is still differences like in Kingdom Rush there are no main towers to defend but still there are towers that attack and needs to be defended too
Aug 26, 2022 7:41 PM
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You don't build and control towers in Dota and LoL you know, you control a creature with limbs there.

Towers in moba games are just there as support feature not the main focus of the moba games themselves.



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Aug 26, 2022 7:45 PM
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Rinrinka said:
You don't build and control towers in Dota and LoL you know, you control a creature with limbs there.

Towers in moba games are just there as support feature not the main focus of the moba games themselves.


that is just being strict with the genre, DOTA and League can be a reinvention of the tower defense genre, and since the main towers of both sides are the goals of the game its defending that tower so similar enough with the tower defense definition even though the classic take is that towers are use for defense
Aug 26, 2022 7:58 PM
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You don't even defend a tower, you defend another structure (nexus).

Anyway, with that logic it could just as well be an rpg because you play a character in a role with skills, levels, items etc.

If I remember correctly Battlerite is an example of a MOBA that doesn't even have a nexus or tower, it's more like a team deathmatch last man standing (not talking about the battle royale mode).
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Aug 26, 2022 8:05 PM
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Rinrinka said:
You don't build and control towers in Dota and LoL you know, you control a creature with limbs there.

Towers in moba games are just there as support feature not the main focus of the moba games themselves.


that is just being strict with the genre, DOTA and League can be a reinvention of the tower defense genre, and since the main towers of both sides are the goals of the game its defending that tower so similar enough with the tower defense definition even though the classic take is that towers are use for defense

suure~

with that kind of thinking then NBA and FIFA games should also belong to the very same sport just because both use a ball and utilizing several players and the goals of the game are so similar enough, sure :)



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Aug 26, 2022 10:17 PM
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No, tower defense is a completely different kind of game where you build towers to kill a horde of enemies

Aug 26, 2022 10:43 PM
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Tower defense is more about placing units to halt progression than defending. Like Plants vs Zombies is a tower defense game because you are placing units/obstacles to prevent enemy progression.

MOBA is just Multiplayer Online Battle Arena cause it's a confined set arena space with an emphasis on some element of combat and the arena is preset.
Aug 27, 2022 1:35 AM
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ok people fair enough but i still think youre being too purist with the tower defense genre

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deg said:


that is just being strict with the genre, DOTA and League can be a reinvention of the tower defense genre, and since the main towers of both sides are the goals of the game its defending that tower so similar enough with the tower defense definition even though the classic take is that towers are use for defense

suure~

with that kind of thinking then NBA and FIFA games should also belong to the very same sport just because both use a ball and utilizing several players and the goals of the game are so similar enough, sure :)


youre not destroying the towers aka goals in FIFA and NBA though but point taken still
degAug 27, 2022 1:39 AM

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