| Two points I want to make. First, I remember in season 1 everyone had a beautifull hue/shine to their eyes. It's a shame that they removed that, and that the overall animation quality has dropped significantly. Five years to animate a show like this and this is what is produced is quite poor from Lerche. Also, to the LN readers, how much screentime is Suzune getting relative to the LN. More again? I'm really hoping she remains the main heroine. Suzune stans unite! EDIT: ATTENTION ALL SUZUNE STANS: I expected a landslide defeat for us, but we are holding up pretty well. Show these Kei simps who is boss and vote Suzune today. Even if you were a Kei fan, it's not too late. Crybaby Kei or Ice-queen Suzune? USE YOUR BRAIN! |
MonkeSupremacyJul 12, 2022 4:19 AM
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| Yes the animation kinda sucks, but oh well. As for screentime of Horikita... She isn't the main heroine, and will not be the main heroine, even in the anime. But, the LN has no main heroine. So don't worry about it. She is still an important character, even in the LN, and as such will still get plenty of screentime in the anime. There will be arcs that focus more heavily on her, and arcs that do not. It's just the way things are. The main protagonist is Ayanokouji, after all, not Horikita. Also, in regards to Karuizawa, there is no need to compare Karuizawa to Horikita and fight over them. Even in the LN, Karuizawa is not more important than Horikita, and does not receive more screentime than her. They are just different characters, with different roles in the story. The current arc will focus more on Karuizawa, because the story is more about her. But not all arcs will be like that. In many volumes of the LN, she has very little screentime (page time?). |
INSANELYWP said: as a light novel reader i can say without a doubt that suzune is definitely not waifu material in the slightest. ok now that i said that, her screen time is relatively normal compared to the novel because after all she is the “leader” of class D (kinda hard to define). if you expect any romantic developments from suzune you will be very disappointed just saying. like 4 or 5 girls like kiyotaka but not horikita. I like that tbh. Nice to see females not always fawning over the male lead. Also I can accept her having the 2nd most screentime, thanks. |
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MonkeSupremacy said: Two points I want to make. First, I remember in season 1 everyone had a beautifull hue/shine to their eyes. It's a shame that they removed that, and that the overall animation quality has dropped significantly. Five years to animate a show like this and this is what is produced is quite poor from Lerche. This episode was outsourced to a different studio and was not animated by Lerche. |
| There is no main Heroine in COTE, they only have Ayanokouji as MC. Heroine can change according to the needs of the story, in S1 the focus is on Horikita while in S2 the focus is on Kei. there are at least 5 girls who have feelings for Ayanokouji and no Horikita because she is more obsessed with her brother. |
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Zac22 said: MonkeSupremacy said: Two points I want to make. First, I remember in season 1 everyone had a beautifull hue/shine to their eyes. It's a shame that they removed that, and that the overall animation quality has dropped significantly. Five years to animate a show like this and this is what is produced is quite poor from Lerche. Also, to the LN readers, how much screentime is Suzune getting relative to the LN. More again? I'm really hoping she remains the main heroine. Suzune stans unite! Go and cry. Kei is the main heroine. I don't want to spoil but take a note:horikita just thought ayanokoji as a good ally,on the other hand ayanokoji just thought she's a good tool to cover his action. Everyone here is saying there is no main heroine? Which one is it lol? |
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mshfqtny said: I'd rather be tasteless than choosing an ultra brocon Wait she doesn't have feelings for her broda, does she??? If so I might need to reconsider. |
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Zac22 said: More like,since mc is a type of person that use people and think of them just as a tool. So they doesn't think mc will change,therefore fmc is not needed. In that sense,there's no fmc. But from what I read,he did change,though not sure how far it will go,I want to believe that he will learn to love people,or at least keep kei till the end. I believe Koji is a man of culture. He will squeeze all the usefulness out of Kei, chuck her back in the trash where she belongs, and then claim the throne alongside Suzune xD Your tears will flavour my food very well when that happens. Just wait and watch. |
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MonkeSupremacy said: it isn't shown that she has romantic feelings but she is obsessed with her brothermshfqtny said: I'd rather be tasteless than choosing an ultra brocon Wait she doesn't have feelings for her broda, does she??? If so I might need to reconsider. |
Saku_k said: Yes the animation kinda sucks, but oh well. As for screentime of Horikita... She isn't the main heroine, and will not be the main heroine, even in the anime. But, the LN has no main heroine. So don't worry about it. She is still an important character, even in the LN, and as such will still get plenty of screentime in the anime. There will be arcs that focus more heavily on her, and arcs that do not. It's just the way things are. The main protagonist is Ayanokouji, after all, not Horikita. Also, in regards to Karuizawa, there is no need to compare Karuizawa to Horikita and fight over them. Even in the LN, Karuizawa is not more important than Horikita, and does not receive more screentime than her. They are just different characters, with different roles in the story. The current arc will focus more on Karuizawa, because the story is more about her. But not all arcs will be like that. In many volumes of the LN, she has very little screentime (page time?). maybe readtime lol |
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mshfqtny said: MonkeSupremacy said: it isn't shown that she has romantic feelings but she is obsessed with her brotherWait she doesn't have feelings for her broda, does she??? If so I might need to reconsider. In that case, get Suzune's name out your fucking mouth! I said get Suzune's name out your fucking mouth! *Slap" |
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pris_sucks said: kei was bullied??? so ofc she’s gonna cry when it happens to her again. also she actually develops feelings for kiyo and horikita is just someone he’s training to take him down. the only really shy i would ship kiyo and horikita is bc of her brother. kiyo actually wished he’d spent more time with him and had a big degree of effect compare to anyone else he met Try to stay away from spoilers in an anime only discussion please. Not major but still spoilers. |
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Samto said: Idgaf about Suzune, but Kei is so damn annoying that I would never vote for her. She’s literally just an attention seeker Factsssssssssssssssssssssssss |
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| Summary of all: 1. Kiyotaka is the only protagonist of the series. He is too strong as a character that he overshines every other character and make them feel like a side character instead. 2. Horikita Suzune is the one female character who have the most screen time in the whole series, albeit only slightly more compared to other female characters. 3. Although Suzune has the most screen time, other female characters such as Kei left more impression for her interesting role as Kiyotaka's main accomplice. |
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YosepRA said: Summary of all: 1. Kiyotaka is the only protagonist of the series. He is too strong as a character that he overshines every other character and make them feel like a side character instead. 2. Horikita Suzune is the one female character who have the most screen time in the whole series, albeit only slightly more compared to other female characters. 3. Although Suzune has the most screen time, other female characters such as Kei left more impression for her interesting role as Kiyotaka's main accomplice. Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? |
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MonkeSupremacy said: YosepRA said: Summary of all: 1. Kiyotaka is the only protagonist of the series. He is too strong as a character that he overshines every other character and make them feel like a side character instead. 2. Horikita Suzune is the one female character who have the most screen time in the whole series, albeit only slightly more compared to other female characters. 3. Although Suzune has the most screen time, other female characters such as Kei left more impression for her interesting role as Kiyotaka's main accomplice. Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? What is it that you want to see exactly? Horikita as a love interest for Ayanokouji? Or you just want her to have a lot of screen time? |
MonkeSupremacy said: Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? Putting your obsession towards Suzune aside... Yes, Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune. If I have to pull the words from our edgy community, Kei is the most reliable tool that Kiyotaka have. As for the possible changes from anime-only perspective, no, I don't think so. Yes, the anime production has been inconsistent in terms of faithfulness and overall quality (as a novel reader, of course), but I don't think they will go that far by changing Kei's purpose as a character and blatantly passing it to Suzune instead. But again, anime production basically dismembered Honami's character in season one and replace her with Suzune altogether. So I think I won't rule any possible changes that will further infuriate the novel community. |
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Saku_k said: MonkeSupremacy said: Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? What is it that you want to see exactly? Horikita as a love interest for Ayanokouji? Or you just want her to have a lot of screen time? Screentime, it's boring to have the female lead always fawn over the male lead. |
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YosepRA said: MonkeSupremacy said: Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? Putting your obsession towards Suzune aside... Yes, Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune. If I have to pull the words from our edgy community, Kei is the most reliable tool that Kiyotaka have. As for the possible changes from anime-only perspective, no, I don't think so. Yes, the anime production has been inconsistent in terms of faithfulness and overall quality (as a novel reader, of course), but I don't think they will go that far by changing Kei's purpose as a character and blatantly passing it to Suzune instead. But again, anime production basically dismembered Honami's character in season one and replace her with Suzune altogether. So I think I won't rule any possible changes that will further infuriate the novel community. When you call it an obsession I start to feel kinda ashamed lol. |
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MonkeSupremacy said: When you call it an obsession I start to feel kinda ashamed lol. Nah, please don't... "Obsession" is too rude of a word, sorry about that. Everyone has their own preferences, often much more than what other people may have. For instance, I would be mad if someone were to intentionally thrash Holo from Spice and Wolf, haha. 🤣 All good, my friend. 👍 |
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MonkeSupremacy said: Two points I want to make. First, I remember in season 1 everyone had a beautifull hue/shine to their eyes. It's a shame that they removed that, and that the overall animation quality has dropped significantly. Five years to animate a show like this and this is what is produced is quite poor from Lerche. Also, to the LN readers, how much screentime is Suzune getting relative to the LN. More again? I'm really hoping she remains the main heroine. Suzune stans unite! EDIT: ATTENTION ALL SUZUNE STANS: I expected a landslide defeat for us, but we are holding up pretty well. Show these Kei simps who is boss and vote Suzune today. Even if you were a Kei fan, it's not too late. Crybaby Kei or Ice-queen Suzune? USE YOUR BRAIN! So let me get this straight. You made this as an anime only because you think Kei is shit, while at this point of the story she 1. Isn’t made to be liked and is actually made to be hated, and 2. Where people, including me absolutely hated her. And 3. Hasn’t even started her amazing character development. Yep, make sense mate. We’ll see how much you like Suzune later on in the story lmao. |
YosepRA said: MonkeSupremacy said: When you call it an obsession I start to feel kinda ashamed lol. Nah, please don't... "Obsession" is too rude of a word, sorry about that. Everyone has their own preferences, often much more than what other people may have. For instance, I would be mad if someone were to intentionally thrash Holo from Spice and Wolf, haha. 🤣 All good, my friend. 👍 I appreciate the reassurance lol. I shall remain a Suzune stan for eternity haha. |
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SirSossa said: MonkeSupremacy said: Two points I want to make. First, I remember in season 1 everyone had a beautifull hue/shine to their eyes. It's a shame that they removed that, and that the overall animation quality has dropped significantly. Five years to animate a show like this and this is what is produced is quite poor from Lerche. Also, to the LN readers, how much screentime is Suzune getting relative to the LN. More again? I'm really hoping she remains the main heroine. Suzune stans unite! EDIT: ATTENTION ALL SUZUNE STANS: I expected a landslide defeat for us, but we are holding up pretty well. Show these Kei simps who is boss and vote Suzune today. Even if you were a Kei fan, it's not too late. Crybaby Kei or Ice-queen Suzune? USE YOUR BRAIN! So let me get this straight. You made this as an anime only because you think Kei is shit, while at this point of the story she 1. Isn’t made to be liked and is actually made to be hated, and 2. Where people, including me absolutely hated her. And 3. Hasn’t even started her amazing character development. Yep, make sense mate. We’ll see how much you like Suzune later on in the story lmao. Ermmmm, well yeah, I guess. And I don't even hate her, just think Suzune gets too much direspec. |
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| horikita is 10x better written in the LN then Kei (not saying that kei is a bad written character but horikita is just better) But If we are talking about who is more cute then I will go with kei. and yeah horikita will remain the main character of cote in future seasons too , noone is going to replace her. BTW |
 "No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
CandyRagi said: horikita is 10x better written in the LN then Kei (not saying that kei is a bad written character but horikita is just better) But If we are talking about who is more cute then I will go with kei. and yeah horikita will remain the main character of cote in future seasons too , noone is going to replace her. BTW Noooo why would Suzune do that to herself. Also maybe more cute, but Horikita is definitely the better looking character. |
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MonkeSupremacy said: CandyRagi said: horikita is 10x better written in the LN then Kei (not saying that kei is a bad written character but horikita is just better) But If we are talking about who is more cute then I will go with kei. and yeah horikita will remain the main character of cote in future seasons too , noone is going to replace her. BTW Noooo why would Suzune do that to herself. Also maybe more cute, but Horikita is definitely the better looking character. that was a simple haircut but that is what makes horikita one of the best written characters in cote.Just wait for it to get animated or read the LN , I am sure that everyone will love it. and in the anime everyone fkin looks like a 13 year old little kid . IDC about how the look in anime but in the LN maybe horikita looks more mature then kei but that cant beat kei's cuteness. |
"No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
| the second pair is litrally the worst thing that I saw today on mal. |
"No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
YosepRA said: MonkeSupremacy said: Without spoiling anything, are you saying Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune, and do you think the anime might be on to change this if so? Putting your obsession towards Suzune aside... Yes, Kei is closer to Kiyotaka than Suzune. If I have to pull the words from our edgy community, Kei is the most reliable tool that Kiyotaka have. As for the possible changes from anime-only perspective, no, I don't think so. Yes, the anime production has been inconsistent in terms of faithfulness and overall quality (as a novel reader, of course), but I don't think they will go that far by changing Kei's purpose as a character and blatantly passing it to Suzune instead. But again, anime production basically dismembered Honami's character in season one and replace her with Suzune altogether. So I think I won't rule any possible changes that will further infuriate the novel community. ohh so what do u think if Kiyotaka have to choose one of them ( kei and horikita) to expel who will it be?? If ur answer is kei then I am assuming that u havent read y2v6 and y2v7 |
CandyRagiJul 13, 2022 5:56 AM
"No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
| the real fight is between Suzune and Arisu in this show, both are smart and cute! |
| We are only here for a short amount of time, I want to waste as much of that time possible doing nonsense |
MGrid said: woohhh my guy is acting like a 13 year old cause I said the truth that horikita is better written then kei. CandyRagi said: ohh so what do u think if Kiyotaka have to choose one of them ( kei and horikita) to expel who will it be?? If ur answer is kei then I am assuming that u havent read y2v6 and y2v7 What is this headcanon? You are not reading the novel if you think he would expel Kei over Horikita. Genius, Horikita is that anybody, and we already know his tier list. He revealed it before. It's him>>>>Kei>>>>>>>>>>Hirata/Horikita>>>everyone else. Imagine being confident and saying straight-up false information that is quite clear in the light novel. It's beyond me how so many of you lack comprehension when her name is literally in that conversation. But somehow all you see is Kei. Sigh Suzune fans and their logic. Also just to add to your previous comment? Suzune is 10x better written then Kei? Is this a joke lol? Suzune is one of the least well-written characters in the light novel currently. Y2V5 killed her character. Don't even put her in the same sentence as Kei, after that backward development. According to u I am confidently telling lies. Mf after reading this I am quite sure u r the one who haven't read the novel. Let me prove it now. Now butthead tell me whose spreading false information? I just proved u havent read the light novels atleast y2v6 and y2v7 . Pls read novels first then start arguments lol. |
"No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
CandyRagi said: MGrid said: woohhh my guy is acting like a 13 year old cause I said the truth that horikita is better written then kei. What is this headcanon? You are not reading the novel if you think he would expel Kei over Horikita. Genius, Horikita is that anybody, and we already know his tier list. He revealed it before. It's him>>>>Kei>>>>>>>>>>Hirata/Horikita>>>everyone else. Imagine being confident and saying straight-up false information that is quite clear in the light novel. It's beyond me how so many of you lack comprehension when her name is literally in that conversation. But somehow all you see is Kei. Sigh Suzune fans and their logic. Also just to add to your previous comment? Suzune is 10x better written then Kei? Is this a joke lol? Suzune is one of the least well-written characters in the light novel currently. Y2V5 killed her character. Don't even put her in the same sentence as Kei, after that backward development. According to u I am confidently telling lies. Mf after reading this I am quite sure u r the one who haven't read the novel. Let me prove it now. Now butthead tell me whose spreading false information? I just proved u havent read the light novels at least y2v6 and y2v7 . Pls read novels first then start arguments lol. Listen to me you aroggant buffon? You assuming I have not read the novels is the most preposterous thing I have heard. Secondly, you pushing your baseless headcanon onto me, like what you're saying is factual is even more pathetic. Especially when you are reading an MTL volume and pretending like you understand anything from it. You wrote a wall of absolute nonsense. About the better written. Horikita is a known clown character in the community. Nobody gets as much slander and shit as she does. Because people see how badly she is written. And if you are gonna continue this dumb conquest of pushing your headcanon based on an MTL on me, just give up. I am not interested in discussing anything with a guy who gets his so-called facts from an MTL. Go bark at someone else, how Horikita is anything but a clown and that wall of text you posted, proves anything at all. |
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