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Sep 1, 2021 11:21 AM
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I know that bleach was hated on for quite a while after the anime ended due to it being popular to hate on it, but now that the anime has returned people are starting to show their love for bleach and a lot of people put it as their top 10s. If this is happening why is the bleach manga rated so low, when it's popularity is 9th place and all those around it in the top 10 are 8-9+. I've read the manga and honestly it is one of my favourite manga of all time I think it easily deserves an 8.5+ at least
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Sep 2, 2021 5:25 AM
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Popularity does not nessarily equate to it being good.

Popularity on MAL just means how many people have it on there list, it doesn't account for their score. It also makes sense as Bleach is one of the most widely known and bought mangas.

People didn't like parts of the bleach manga, you enjoying it and thinking it deserves a higher score doesn't nessarily reflect the opinions of others.

7.69 is actually not that low of a score in my opinion. A score of 5-6 is quite prevalant if you look around on MAL. So 7 is above average.

You mentioned that people are starting to like bleach again because the anime is coming back to adapt the arcs it couldn't. Well that's just hype isn't it? Bleach manga readers have already finished those arcs and the score is a reflection of what they thought of Bleach overall, which contains those arcs.

Haven't read all bleach yet, so I can't make a judgement of how good/bad it is. But based on what I've heard, it just gets worse after the soul society arc.

I'm really liking it atm though. Not sure I agree with your rating though.
Sep 3, 2021 9:36 PM
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People can't stand the thought of falling in love with something basic. They feel that liking something simple and fun somehow erodes their dignity or esteem or some shit. Also, the hive mind of the community is another major factor that influences the score, some people fear the scrutiny of the community if they were to highly rate something as "basic" as Bleach.

For me, personally, Bleach is a near10 manga, much better than the likes of Berserk, Vagabond, and the other such community-loved "masterpieces" but people in this community would look at me like I am some kind of a retard if I were to say it openly. Yeah, whatever.
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Sep 3, 2021 11:25 PM
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That score isn't that bad really. It has almost the same amount of people who scored it a 7 as it does an 8.

It's far from perfect, but it's not even close to as bad as the vocal detractors of the series make it out to be.

Sep 4, 2021 1:17 AM
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The last arcs were really bad in my opinion, the score propably also reflects that. But it's not that bad of a score, I think it's accurate. I'm curious what people will think of Bleach after the anime is finished...perhaps they won't like it quite as much as they hyped it up.
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Sep 4, 2021 4:39 AM
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NicDwolfwood said:
That score isn't that bad really. It has almost the same amount of people who scored it a 7 as it does an 8.

It's far from perfect, but it's not even close to as bad as the vocal detractors of the series make it out to be.



I’m not calling it perfect at all. Bleach did have its ups and downs(mainly due to Kubos health) and that affected some major parts of bleach, but the beauty of bleach is the connections Kubo brought from early to chapters to end chapters and it told a beautiful story. I feel that the community sometimes likes to just jump on popular or shit on series that aren’t as popular as the other. For example, fmab fans, who recently review bombed fruba and Gintama the final movie. I feel like things need to change a bit
Sep 4, 2021 4:40 AM
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The highest rating it has was 8.38 back in 2008(i used the wayback machine) it just slowly decrease when time goes by
Sep 4, 2021 4:45 AM
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Squiyn said:
Popularity does not nessarily equate to it being good.

Popularity on MAL just means how many people have it on there list, it doesn't account for their score. It also makes sense as Bleach is one of the most widely known and bought mangas.

People didn't like parts of the bleach manga, you enjoying it and thinking it deserves a higher score doesn't nessarily reflect the opinions of others.

7.69 is actually not that low of a score in my opinion. A score of 5-6 is quite prevalant if you look around on MAL. So 7 is above average.

You mentioned that people are starting to like bleach again because the anime is coming back to adapt the arcs it couldn't. Well that's just hype isn't it? Bleach manga readers have already finished those arcs and the score is a reflection of what they thought of Bleach overall, which contains those arcs.

Haven't read all bleach yet, so I can't make a judgement of how good/bad it is. But based on what I've heard, it just gets worse after the soul society arc.

I'm really liking it atm though. Not sure I agree with your rating though.


Again like I said, it was a popular trend to say “bleach falls off after soul society”, but anyone who read the manga, even if they rate soul society as their favourite arc in bleach, will say that the arcs after actually don’t fall off.

About the score rating. It even happened recently, where fmab fans review bombed series such as fruba and Gintama the final. These are fans, who rate series low in order for their series to be higher. It happens all the times and it’s happened to many series and I think it needs to stop. The only reason I mentioned bleach was because it was one of many that a lot of people and I think that don’t deserve that rating. I get what’s done is done but it shouldn’t be a community where people try the hardest to get their animanga to rate the highest but instead to see, what anime has the whole fandom buzzing to be rated so high and what anime we should stay clear of
Sep 4, 2021 4:46 AM
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The highest rating it has was 8.38 back in 2008(i used the wayback machine) it just slowly decrease when time goes by


Mainly when the anime ends. You’ll see a trend of the anime and manga being rated even lower
Sep 4, 2021 5:12 AM
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Being popular does not necessarily mean that it'll be good, sir.
Sep 4, 2021 5:21 AM
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Ewmanga said:
Being popular does not necessarily mean that it'll be good, sir.


But this manga is good, sir 😊
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AN1M3BROZ said:
Squiyn said:
Popularity does not nessarily equate to it being good.

Popularity on MAL just means how many people have it on there list, it doesn't account for their score. It also makes sense as Bleach is one of the most widely known and bought mangas.

People didn't like parts of the bleach manga, you enjoying it and thinking it deserves a higher score doesn't nessarily reflect the opinions of others.

7.69 is actually not that low of a score in my opinion. A score of 5-6 is quite prevalant if you look around on MAL. So 7 is above average.

You mentioned that people are starting to like bleach again because the anime is coming back to adapt the arcs it couldn't. Well that's just hype isn't it? Bleach manga readers have already finished those arcs and the score is a reflection of what they thought of Bleach overall, which contains those arcs.

Haven't read all bleach yet, so I can't make a judgement of how good/bad it is. But based on what I've heard, it just gets worse after the soul society arc.

I'm really liking it atm though. Not sure I agree with your rating though.


Again like I said, it was a popular trend to say “bleach falls off after soul society”, but anyone who read the manga, even if they rate soul society as their favourite arc in bleach, will say that the arcs after actually don’t fall off.

About the score rating. It even happened recently, where fmab fans review bombed series such as fruba and Gintama the final. These are fans, who rate series low in order for their series to be higher. It happens all the times and it’s happened to many series and I think it needs to stop. The only reason I mentioned bleach was because it was one of many that a lot of people and I think that don’t deserve that rating. I get what’s done is done but it shouldn’t be a community where people try the hardest to get their animanga to rate the highest but instead to see, what anime has the whole fandom buzzing to be rated so high and what anime we should stay clear of


Agreed, It's saddening to see that people just dislike a certain anime simply because it overtook their favourite anime score wise. Unfortunately we can't do much about it and I doubt any of them would change if we asked them too. Scores don't concern me that much anyway but I can definitely see why some people would get annoyed.
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If anything in particular, the TYBW arc really ruined it, imho. Really rough choice of pacing and loads of added powerscaling BS to where even the more pathos-oriented aspects weren’t nearly enough. Otherwise it wouldn’t be that low compared to other popular shounen series.

It’s not even about it being “typical” or “basic” at all, there were too many inherent issues it simply had.
Sep 5, 2021 8:24 AM
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If anything in particular, the TYBW arc really ruined it, imho. Really rough choice of pacing and loads of added powerscaling BS to where even the more pathos-oriented aspects weren’t nearly enough. Otherwise it wouldn’t be that low compared to other popular shounen series.

It’s not even about it being “typical” or “basic” at all, there were too many inherent issues it simply had.


That is your opinion, but I feel that the pacing of the TYBW was beautiful as it fit with the darkness of the arc. However, it was evident that in the later half of the war the pacing and some plot points were a bit iffy, but we do know that it was due to Kubos health that he wasn’t able to really focus and flesh out so certain plot points and power scales. However, I do not feel that that takes away massively from the series as a whole since and is the reason why I would rate it an 8.5+ (Unbiased) instead of 9 or 10
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