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Jun 6, 2021 12:43 AM
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As far as I'm concerned the only difference is the Manji symbol being shown in the uncensored version and not being shown in the censored version
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Jun 6, 2021 12:51 AM
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Im not too sure but i only know if you watched the censored version, it skips a lot of parts. So just watch the uncensored one, not that there’s anything gory or unpleasant either way


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Jun 6, 2021 12:52 AM
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I think so. The symbol is not that important but due to how many scenes the symbol will be prevalent, those scenes will look jarring with the censorship. People cannot do their research to understanding the nuance of the symbol in this day and age even though we have information at the tips of our hands.
Jun 6, 2021 12:53 AM
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The toman symbol, like nazi's (buddha)
Jun 6, 2021 12:55 AM
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Censored means something inappropriate to be viewed is edited during the preview. Uncensored means no changes are required in a presentation or something though inappropriate has not been changed or modified .

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture..


Further , To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different
Jun 6, 2021 12:56 AM
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_Lyborick_ said:
I think so. The symbol is not that important but due to how many scenes the symbol will be prevalent, those scenes will look jarring with the censorship. People cannot do their research to understanding the nuance of the symbol in this day and age even though we have information at the tips of our hands.


Censored means something inappropriate to be viewed is edited during the preview. Uncensored means no changes are required in a presentation or something though inappropriate has not been changed or modified .

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture..


To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different
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just_darkarmy said:
The toman symbol, like nazi's (buddha)

To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different
Jun 6, 2021 12:57 AM
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_Lyborick_ said:
I think so. The symbol is not that important but due to how many scenes the symbol will be prevalent, those scenes will look jarring with the censorship. People cannot do their research to understanding the nuance of the symbol in this day and age even though we have information at the tips of our hands.


To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different
Jun 6, 2021 12:57 AM
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is there even a place to watch it uncensored??
Jun 6, 2021 1:00 AM

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Jevasamy said:
_Lyborick_ said:
I think so. The symbol is not that important but due to how many scenes the symbol will be prevalent, those scenes will look jarring with the censorship. People cannot do their research to understanding the nuance of the symbol in this day and age even though we have information at the tips of our hands.


Censored means something inappropriate to be viewed is edited during the preview. Uncensored means no changes are required in a presentation or something though inappropriate has not been changed or modified .

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture..


To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different

Yeah. I think they could have easily fixed with a note at the bottom or top of the screen explaining what the symbol means, but because western streaming platforms are probably too scared get the cancel mob, I mean I would be scared too if they came after me.
Jun 6, 2021 1:02 AM
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Does the mc get stronger
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Furious_S25 said:
Does the mc get stronger
Yeah the MC does get stronger over the course of the story by learning how to actually fight.
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_Lyborick_ said:
Jevasamy said:


Censored means something inappropriate to be viewed is edited during the preview. Uncensored means no changes are required in a presentation or something though inappropriate has not been changed or modified .

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture..


To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different

Yeah. I think they could have easily fixed with a note at the bottom or top of the screen explaining what the symbol means, but because western streaming platforms are probably too scared get the cancel mob, I mean I would be scared too if they came after me.


People will not read it amd will get the show cancel .
The symbol is similar though .
More over its a religious symbol of Hinduism .
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just_darkarmy said:
The toman symbol, like nazi's (buddha)

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture.
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To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different
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The uncensored just shows more of gang symbol. They did this because there symbol looks similar to you know what and people might get offended by it or whatever.

I think thats why they did that. thats all thats different anyway.

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Jun 6, 2021 2:46 AM
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No its because of the symbol of toman which is a swastika. That's not a symbol you can show I tv series as thay associate it with war crimes and all that, but other than the swastika symbol nothing else is really different in the uncensored version
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sugarsong said:
is there even a place to watch it uncensored??
the latest episode is uncensored on animepahe but the other ones are censored.

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Jun 6, 2021 3:30 AM
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For me, the animation is not bad. The censorship ruin the anime. Check this comparison if you want to know the real difference of the censored to uncensored. I'm glad Muse Asia used the uncensored version in the latest episode of TR.
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The lengths that they went through to censor the manji symbol made entire scenes look completely different imo. Wide shots are turned into weird zoom-ins. Once I started the uncensored I just couldn't go back.
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Aneesh_1501 said:
No its because of the symbol of toman which is a swastika. That's not a symbol you can show I tv series as thay associate it with war crimes and all that, but other than the swastika symbol nothing else is really different in the uncensored version


It's called a manji symbol, and no, it's not a swastika. It's dummies like this that got it censored.
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who cars the series would be as trashy with or without the symbol



Jun 6, 2021 5:09 AM
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If you live in the Southeast Asia region and want to watch uncensored, then I suggest you watch it at Muse Asia, because Muse Asia has been broadcasting the uncensored version from episode 1 onwards since May 29th.
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The uncensored version is far more bloody and and has the toman symbol
Jun 6, 2021 6:00 AM
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DoobieSam said:
Aneesh_1501 said:
No its because of the symbol of toman which is a swastika. That's not a symbol you can show I tv series as thay associate it with war crimes and all that, but other than the swastika symbol nothing else is really different in the uncensored version


It's called a manji symbol, and no, it's not a swastika. It's dummies like this that got it censored.


Bro they call it swastika in 🇮🇳. That's where I'm from.
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_Lyborick_ said:
Jevasamy said:


Censored means something inappropriate to be viewed is edited during the preview. Uncensored means no changes are required in a presentation or something though inappropriate has not been changed or modified .

the manji is pretty much a Hindu/Buddhist staple in addition to being present in indigenous NA culture..but yeah i get it why it's such a no no in western culture..


To understand the situation, it should be noted that the name of the band in Japan is “Tokyo Manji Gang“, Which in Japanese is written as Tokyo Revengers, using a sauastika (卍) for your writing. It is not necessary to think much about it to identify why the symbol had to be censored outside of Japan, as it could easily be confused with the swastika (卐), which is commonly associated with Nazism, although they are completely different

Yeah. I think they could have easily fixed with a note at the bottom or top of the screen explaining what the symbol means, but because western streaming platforms are probably too scared get the cancel mob, I mean I would be scared too if they came after me.

Im currently reading One Piece and there was a character with a manji on his stomach, and there was a little editors note talking about the symbolism of the manji, so yeah I think they could do that in TR
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Aneesh_1501 said:
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It's called a manji symbol, and no, it's not a swastika. It's dummies like this that got it censored.


Bro they call it swastika in 🇮🇳. That's where I'm from.


Then they are wrong where you are from. Look it up. Manji symbol and swastika look similar, but are not the same symbol. Seriously, look it up. The more knowledge that is spread, less likely we will have to deal with censorship that doesn't need to happen.
Jun 6, 2021 9:49 AM
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where can you find the uncensored version?
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cerarara said:
where can you find the uncensored version?


The KRP torrent thru nyaa.is is where I'm getting mine
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cerarara said:
where can you find the uncensored version?


The KRP torrent thru nyaa.is is where I'm getting mine
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Is there any place where I can watch the uncensored version with English subs?
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If you have a VPN you can watch it on Muse Asia's YouTube. Just change your country to any southeast Asian country.
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It was more than just a symbol censorship like in Episode 5, it has a weird cut and zooming in to the face to avoid showing Manji Logo.
I have watched both version and it's really annoying and takes me out of the enjoyment.

So for your fully enjoyment please just watch the Uncensored Version it's available for free and legal on Muse Asia Youtube Channel.
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Where can I watch the uncensored version?
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It's kind of annoying that this decision came from the source on itself, to give us a censored version in the West. It's like they think we aren't intelligent enough to know that this isn't a nazi symbol...
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Where can I watch the uncensored version?


Muse Asia youtube channel legal and free, but it's region lock to southeast asia, you can use VPN if you're on blocked country.
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It's kind of annoying that this decision came from the source on itself, to give us a censored version in the West. It's like they think we aren't intelligent enough to know that this isn't a nazi symbol...


You're right the censorship version is annoying, that's why we viewers from Southeast Asia submitted an uncensored broadcast request to Muse company as the one who brought this anime and assured them that the symbol would not be a problem. The staff of Muse who saw the enthusiasm and high number of viewers, finally the staff tried to ask the Japanese licensors to broadcast the uncensored version. Muse managed to persuade Japanese licensors and agreed even though Muse had to buy another license for the uncensored version because it was different from the censored version that had been purchased. Finally, the all Muse youtube channel broadcasts the uncensored version from episode 1 to the last episode.

~ that's a little story from southeast asia, maybe you in the west can also persuade distributors there like us.
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Well the censorship in this week's episode was finally bad enough to force me to call it out too. I had to go and search for the uncensored and why they chose to cut away from such a key moment in the main character's development is just baffling to me. Absolutely shameful.
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Alright the latest episode's censorship was pretty terrible, they showed the sky while takemichi was dodging kiyomasa and it made it look like takemichi teleported from gripping kiyomasa from the front to suddenly choking him from the back lol
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Looks like they censored the swastika and anything remotely racist, because western audiences are pussies.

To be honest, it didn't bother me as much as the future him being called "Old Man," while he visually looked like a young kid still. (I'm only on episode 1, and this is jarring)

I think it's just the animation studio being extra lazy on the animation of future old man, and being even more lazy when it comes to western pussies wanting censorship. Zero push back, because that would require work.
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Looks like they censored the swastika and anything remotely racist, because western audiences are pussies.

To be honest, it didn't bother me as much as the future him being called "Old Man," while he visually looked like a young kid still. (I'm only on episode 1, and this is jarring)

I think it's just the animation studio being extra lazy on the animation of future old man, and being even more lazy when it comes to western pussies wanting censorship. Zero push back, because that would require work.


the ammount of retardation in this comment baffles me. probably not even bait.
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Kyabi said:
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Looks like they censored the swastika and anything remotely racist, because western audiences are pussies.

To be honest, it didn't bother me as much as the future him being called "Old Man," while he visually looked like a young kid still. (I'm only on episode 1, and this is jarring)

I think it's just the animation studio being extra lazy on the animation of future old man, and being even more lazy when it comes to western pussies wanting censorship. Zero push back, because that would require work.


the ammount of retardation in this comment baffles me. probably not even bait.


Straight to insulting. Why did you even bother posting? Did I say something that wasn't factual or doesn't stand up to criticism?
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You're right the censorship version is annoying, that's why we viewers from Southeast Asia submitted an uncensored broadcast request to Muse company as the one who brought this anime and assured them that the symbol would not be a problem. The staff of Muse who saw the enthusiasm and high number of viewers, finally the staff tried to ask the Japanese licensors to broadcast the uncensored version. Muse managed to persuade Japanese licensors and agreed even though Muse had to buy another license for the uncensored version because it was different from the censored version that had been purchased. Finally, the all Muse youtube channel broadcasts the uncensored version from episode 1 to the last episode.

~ that's a little story from southeast asia, maybe you in the west can also persuade distributors there like us.

Omg, I didn’t know Muse Asia did that!!!!! I’d thought they aired the uncensored version right from the start. That’s amazing. Props to those that organised & submitted the request♡







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the ammount of retardation in this comment baffles me. probably not even bait.


Straight to insulting. Why did you even bother posting? Did I say something that wasn't factual or doesn't stand up to criticism?


He must have resorted to insults because your comment does, indeed, sound retarded as fuck.
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zafuro said:
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Straight to insulting. Why did you even bother posting? Did I say something that wasn't factual or doesn't stand up to criticism?


He must have resorted to insults because your comment does, indeed, sound retarded as fuck.

I guess we are all retarded then.
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DoobieSam said:
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Bro they call it swastika in 🇮🇳. That's where I'm from.


Then they are wrong where you are from. Look it up. Manji symbol and swastika look similar, but are not the same symbol. Seriously, look it up. The more knowledge that is spread, less likely we will have to deal with censorship that doesn't need to happen.
Dude. Swastika originated from India. We don't have any negative connotations with swastika/manji. It's part of our culture to begin with. Manji and swastika are just mirror opposite in symbol but they both mean same and are used for same thing. The Nazis, on the other hand, used our symbol for wrong reasons. So we Indians call it Swastika, while others called it manji or by other name because of translation and stuff. What I'm saying is they came from the same origin.
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The censored version has all the Manji symbols cut out. It also cuts some scenes to show random panels instead of what was actually animated. I honestly can’t stand the censored version.
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sugarsong said:
is there even a place to watch it uncensored??
Yeah, there's an uncensored version on gogoanime
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Where should I watch the uncensored version from ??
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so the only reason this got a censored version is cause western audiences are blind and intolerant? its just a symbol and its not even the one u think it is. one thing could have very different meanings depending on where ur from and this is a japanese anime so we have to see it from their perspective. if there is no other reason except for it being mistaken for the nazi symbol then ill just stick to the uncensored one then. Istg adults make a big deal about everything.
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so the only reason this got a censored version is cause western audiences are blind and intolerant? its just a symbol and its not even the one u think it is. one thing could have very different meanings depending on where ur from and this is a japanese anime so we have to see it from their perspective. if there is no other reason except for it being mistaken for the nazi symbol then ill just stick to the uncensored one then. Istg adults make a big deal about everything.
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